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Cyborg ART
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Posted: 27th Dec 2008 21:25
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My friend just bought a new computer, and now he wonder if he will need to buy a new graphic card, or can he play Left 4 Dead with a decent quallity on a Nvidia GeForce 9300?

I guess this aint the rigth place for asking this, but I hope there is someone out there who knows

Thanks!

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Posted: 27th Dec 2008 21:29
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Well I played the demo pretty well on a Radeon X1550, so I'd imagine that it'll be alright, as long as the rest of his PC's up to scratch...

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I dont know much of the Radeon serie
But its a tiny little monster The only thing wich isnt so good is the graphic card.

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Posted: 27th Dec 2008 21:49
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Quote: "Nvidia GeForce 9300?"

I don't know, maybe I'm just WAY out of the Video Card loop, but a 9300 sounds pretty dang good to me.

is there a demo? He could try that... see if it works. I would be willing to bet his computer would work just fine with it at least on low quality.


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It got taken down after release. Apparently the replayability was so good, that people were in danger of not buying the full version, 'cos they were having so much fun with the demo lol...

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Posted: 28th Dec 2008 00:21
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Quote: "I don't know, maybe I'm just WAY out of the Video Card loop, but a 9300 sounds pretty dang good to me."

The first number is the generation and the following three are the power. So a 9300 is a generation 9, three hundered power, which isn't as powerful as a 8800 - 8 generation, 800 power.

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Posted: 28th Dec 2008 00:23 Edited at: 28th Dec 2008 00:24
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The 9300 is a motherboard integrated mobile graphics card. I'd be surprised if it can play any current gen title adequately. It likely doesn't even meet the minimum requirements for the game.

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Posted: 28th Dec 2008 00:57 Edited at: 28th Dec 2008 01:11
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Does it have the right amount of MBs? I have a 9500M GS, and left 4 dead runs brilliantly - though it lags when there are masses, upon masses of zombies. It's very well optimised I think, and fairly solid (the game that is)

I don't know how much lower down the line the 9300 is, I imagine it's probably not that brilliant for games. (Maybe it'll work on lower settings)

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The difference is the 9500m isn't an integrated card

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Posted: 28th Dec 2008 01:12 Edited at: 28th Dec 2008 01:15
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True, perhaps turn down the settings? What's the best game he can run? Maybe we can see how powerful it is by comparing it to games that have worked.

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Crysis seems to be a good benchmark for the graphics performance on newer cards, there is a Crysis Demo available, so it might be worth a shot. Pressumable, if it can handle Crysis, even on lowest settings, then I'd assume it'd have little trouble with Left4Dead. (I run left 4 dead on high and Crysis Medium)

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-nforce-730i,2044-8.html

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I just sold my geforce 7950gt and have ordered a high-end geforce 9800 gtx + for about the same price as I sold it. This just proves that the last three numbers REALLY mean the power of the card.

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Hmm... Maybe its best for him to buy a new graphic card.

Quote: "I have a 9500M GS, and left 4 dead runs brilliantly - though it lags when there are masses, upon masses of zombies."


It even lags on my monster machine
8800 Gt 1024mb with 3Gb Ram

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I have GeForce 9800gt, and HL2 Episode 2 can run on full graphical quality settings (everything, including filtering, set to max), with the dynamic shadow rendering flashlight turned on, in a big countryside scene..

With no/little lag.


It should run fine, as long as the rest of the pc matches the quality of the GPU.

ValvE took care to make Left 4 Dead run smoothly in a big scene, so all should be fine.

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Like Aaagreen said, Valve are master's in the art of optimization, my old rig may not be able to play crysis on low, but I can play L4D on low with 60fps... ^^
Also the L4D engine is a little bit more modified to be a little bit more eyecandy than the original orange box engine, so there may be a small hint of lag in some highly populated area's... D:


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Back when I had my old 1gb ram, GeForce 7300gt and old psu, it ran smoothly on full detail, in an online co-op thingy.

Tht was on the demo

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Indeed, Valve are a collection of elites.

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It is true - anything made in source I've found too, runs quite smoothly, the only problem I ever had with a source game is when Left4Dead had a demo out and it was a BETA version, a problem that was quickly fixed (a memory leak).

FPS rates I've always found quite solid, Left4Dead adding different shader effects and increased detail and more shaders and increased body count, without being too hard on the system shows a decent amount of optimisation. Aside from the fact when you have too many zombies it lags, but doesn't stop from being playable, but it's expected.

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Posted: 31st Dec 2008 14:28
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So basicly he could play on at least low?

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Yes. Far cry 1 runs at 90fps, on low, on an intergrated geforce 7050.

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Quote: "I just sold my geforce 7950gt and have ordered a high-end geforce 9800 gtx + for about the same price as I sold it. This just proves that the last three numbers REALLY mean the power of the card."


Wrongggggggg. The 9800gtx, note no plus, is faster than a 7950. I mean, a 9800gtx beats two 7950s in SLI. So... not quite with that little power level thing.

However, gtx 280 is the way to go if you want craziness! And... have $500 to spend?
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I bet that card could rune left 4 dead...the gaming cafe where i live has it and their PCs have 8800 Geforces and it runs pretty smooth...but there a few options you need to change to make the game not lock up for 10 secs every 5 mins.

I think you need to change the filtering to bilinear(i think its filtering but just find the video option that has bilinear in it)

turn the shader detail to medium

and you need to disable the one setting(but i forgot what it was lol)


and left 4 dead is an awesome game


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Quote: " PCs have 8800 Geforces and it runs pretty smooth"

Yes, But you do realise that there is not performance difference between an 8800, and a 9800, Other than that the 9800 can be used in TRI-Way SLI, whereas the 8 series cant. Think of a 9300 as a 8300, And an 8300 as a 7600

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