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Geek Culture / Windows 7 Beta 1

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Uncle Sam
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Posted: 30th Dec 2008 22:28
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I have Vista 64bit ant it's awesome. If you are getting low performance, it's time to get with the times and upgrade your hardware.

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David R
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Posted: 30th Dec 2008 22:30
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Quote: "I have Vista 64bit ant it's awesome. If you are getting low performance, it's time to get with the times and upgrade your hardware."


Believe it or not, there is actually more than one possible cause besides inferior or obsolete hardware.


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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 30th Dec 2008 22:57 Edited at: 30th Dec 2008 22:58
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Please everyone, let's not get into a war about the cause of Vista running slow on certain machines. I do know Vista is capable of running great, however I do hate certain aspects of the OS. I believe MicroSoft certainly could have done a lot better had they spent a bit more time and energy on the overall performance rather than how slick the software looks and feels. That's where I think they messed up. Windows 7 certainly looks and sounds so far like it will perhaps save MicroSoft. I think I'll get it when it comes out (after reading extensive reviews and doing a ton of research as to what hardware it says it will work with but will run better using something different), it so far sounds great! I'm excited about it.

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General Reed
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Indeed, vista runs great on my PC, Its just that games have their 1/4 of their fps cut off in vista compared to XP, So unless i play a dx10 game, i just use xp.

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Xarshi
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I quite enjoy how Windows 7 runs. I've used it before. It's nice. Runs fast. The system tray is very nice as well. Haven't tried running any games since its not on this pc, but I really like it a lot more than Vista, I'll tell you that much.
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JoelJ
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Posted: 30th Dec 2008 23:45
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Quote: "Looks cool, The real question is, Will it finaly perform better than xp as promised?"

When was that promised? Besides, performance is relative. if you like a lightweight OS that doesn't have any eyecandy. Or if you like the eyecandy. or if you like inbetween.

The peek feature in Windows 7 is better than the one in Compiz-Fusion or Vista. It's actually useful. You can click on it, since all the common windows are grouped together, you SEE what ones, (rather than Vista's/XP's showing of a list in the groups) then you click the one you want. It's a mini Alt-Tab I'd say it's more like Mac's [Alt]+[~] more than Expose or whatever. It's just done with the mouse rather than the keyboard.

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General Reed
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[quote]When was that promised? Besides, performance is relative. if you like a lightweight OS that doesn't have any eyecandy. Or if you like the eyecandy. or if you like inbetween.[quote]
I would have thought that, But ive tried disabling aero, and just putting on the classic theme (No fancy features) and it only gains on average 2fps. Theres something fundementaly diffrent/unoptimized in the actual windows core.

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Mr Z
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Quote: "I quite enjoy how Windows 7 runs. I've used it before. It's nice. Runs fast. The system tray is very nice as well. Haven't tried running any games since its not on this pc, but I really like it a lot more than Vista, I'll tell you that much."


Question: Is that annoying bug in the system tray fixed yet? On both my xp machines and my vista machines it will bug sometimes and tray icons not disappearing when they should.

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Xarshi
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Question: Is that annoying bug in the system tray fixed yet? On both my xp machines and my vista machines it will bug sometimes and tray icons not disappearing when they should."


I've never had that problem in general 0.o

Um, but, no? None of that happening...
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Mr Z
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Posted: 31st Dec 2008 00:47
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Quote: "I've never had that problem in general 0.o

Um, but, no? None of that happening... "


Propobly just me then, or people just do not notice it! Not a biggy, and I confess it is not that annoying, but I get annoyed with the small stuff.

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Xarshi
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lol, well, I really don't pay attention to small things like that. And my computer is very fast, so that could also be it. I am running a quad core cpu and 4gb of RAM. So perhaps that has something to do with it.
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Mr Z
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Quote: "lol, well, I really don't pay attention to small things like that. And my computer is very fast, so that could also be it. I am running a quad core cpu and 4gb of RAM. So perhaps that has something to do with it."


Well, it is propobly just me being sensetive. Noticed it the most because of that I developed a Java app with a tray icon. When I shut it down, the icon was still there until I took the mouse to the taskbar. Not just Java, have seen that in other places to, but not as clear then (happens on random to, so it is not something that happens all the time, just sometimes every now and then).

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General Reed
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Posted: 31st Dec 2008 01:21
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Quote: "Well, it is propobly just me being sensetive. Noticed it the most because of that I developed a Java app with a tray icon. When I shut it down, the icon was still there until I took the mouse to the taskbar. Not just Java, have seen that in other places to, but not as clear then (happens on random to, so it is not something that happens all the time, just sometimes every now and then)."

Yes, This happens to me on xp. I go downstairs, Come back up, try to click on the msn tray icon, and it disapears!

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bitJericho
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Posted: 31st Dec 2008 01:26 Edited at: 31st Dec 2008 01:27
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Quote: "Well, it is propobly just me being sensetive. Noticed it the most because of that I developed a Java app with a tray icon. When I shut it down, the icon was still there until I took the mouse to the taskbar. Not just Java, have seen that in other places to, but not as clear then (happens on random to, so it is not something that happens all the time, just sometimes every now and then)."


Ya, it happens in vista. It occurs when the program does not shut down properly. (for example, you can make it happen by cntl-alt-del and ending a process, like live messenger. The icon will remain until you hover over it)

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Benjamin
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Posted: 31st Dec 2008 05:47 Edited at: 31st Dec 2008 05:47
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If I shut down WLM properly on Vista the icon still doesn't disappear until I hover the mouse over it. And I hope they've fixed the bug where taskbar items mess up and you can't minimize a particular window from it.

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bitJericho
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Posted: 31st Dec 2008 07:21 Edited at: 31st Dec 2008 07:21
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Quote: "If I shut down WLM properly on Vista the icon still doesn't disappear until I hover the mouse over it."


Uh, how do you exit wlm without right clicking on the taskbar icon? (which when I click close, it does take the icon off)

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JoelJ
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Posted: 31st Dec 2008 09:34
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Quote: "Question: Is that annoying bug in the system tray fixed yet? On both my xp machines and my vista machines it will bug sometimes and tray icons not disappearing when they should.
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It bugs me, especially when you're debugging a program and you kill it like 10 times, so you have tons of icons

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Benjamin
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Posted: 31st Dec 2008 11:35
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Quote: "Uh, how do you exit wlm without right clicking on the taskbar icon? (which when I click close, it does take the icon off)"

The icon sticks around for me, although interestingly it seems to have less chance of sticking around if it's signed in.

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Mr Z
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Lol, ok, guess it is not just me then. Not a very large thing, system stability, security, performence etc. are of course more important, but it still bugs me and I would like not to have this. Plus, as JoelJ stated, it can get annoying when developing .

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