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Omega gamer 89
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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 01:51 Edited at: 26th Mar 2009 01:52
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In the name of all that is sacred, I command you all to go to the nearest movie theater and see the movie Knowing.
DO. IT. NOW.
If you do go see it, you will thank me for the rest of either of our lives.
If you don't go see it, you will forever curse the day you were born.

This is seriously the best movie I've see in at least four or five years.
Its pretty scary, especially for a PG -13 movie. Its not the lame "OMG! A scary thing popped out from behind the door! ZOMGLOL!" scary, its actually genuinely scary. It was actually afraid, not just movie-theater-afraid, but actually experiencing real fear at times.
This movie is VERY well done, in every aspect of film making.
I am going to see this movie at least two or three more times before it leaves theaters.

Although it is a serious movie, there was one part that made me laugh my head off.
SPOILERS:


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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 02:20
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HPfAhA2FBU

Trailer.

Must say it looks good, i might buy it and watch it at home since i dont go to cinemas so much anymore but i think im gonna see it.

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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 02:23
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It has got a terrible title but it does sound interesting.

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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 02:30
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Yeah, title could be much better, but the movie is awesome beyond all human (and/or cat) understanding.

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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 02:59 Edited at: 26th Mar 2009 02:59
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Looked great, got generally poor reviews. I still might see it though.

http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/knowing


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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 04:42
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Omega always seems so passionate about things that don't really matter.

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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 05:24
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The trailer looks *horrible*. What's with his hair?

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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 05:42
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The trailer really doesn't do justice to the movie, at all. I even noticed a couple of lines in that trailer that don't appear in the movie... But go see it, trust me. Here is a different trailer. Not really any better of a trailer, but... whatever.
I really do think its one of the best movies to come out in quite a while. Go see it, and if you can't stay for the first half hour or so, just leave. I dare you. But believe me, I doubt you'll be willing to leave the theater even if your bladder explodes from all that soda. I never found myself thinking, "com on, get on with it!" or anything like that. The ENTIRE movie kept me interested, which is rare. I usually have one or two parts where I just wish they would move the story along and end that scene. Not in this movie.

And as for his hair... he's... Nicolas Cage?

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Quote: "as for his hair... he's... Nicolas Cage?"


I lol'd.

I want to see this movie really badly, but sadly I can't. I'll just wait and rent it when it's on DVD.



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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 06:16
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Movie looks great. I think I'll see it after work on Friday.
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I think you should never listen to reviews and critics, every people are different and YOU might like it still if other people cant stand it.

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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 11:38
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I think it looks interesting. I will assume it'll be average and I probably won't be disappointed. It's not really possible for it to be amazing anyway, because it's got Nick Cage in it. It's like being told there's a delicious chocolate cake in the kitchen, and expecting it to be amazing, and then finding out your Dad's made it.


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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 15:58
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Quote: "because it's got Nick Cage in it"

he actually plays this role very, very well.
Quote: "It's like being told there's a delicious chocolate cake in the kitchen, and expecting it to be amazing, and then finding out your Dad's made it."

My dad is a professional pastry chef. No, really.
What say you now?

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I say the only thing I can say ..... you're a Nick Cage lover, whos dad buys cakes on the way home from work and then pretends he baked them! You know it's true.


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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 16:15 Edited at: 26th Mar 2009 16:16
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"What happens when the numbers run out?"

I have to say, it looks really cheesy

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/knowing/

26%? I won't post any of the quotes here, but read them yourself if you want to know. If I ever see this movie and love it, I will come back here and say it.

Quote: "If you do go see it, you will thank me for the rest of either of our lives.
If you don't go see it, you will forever curse the day you were born."




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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 18:17
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I went to see it last night.

SPOILER:
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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 18:35 Edited at: 26th Mar 2009 18:37
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Quote: "you're a Nick Cage lover, whos dad buys cakes on the way home from work and then pretends he baked them! You know it's true. "

Actually, this is the first movie I've seen with Nicolas Cage in it. And my dad really is a pastry chef.

@Jeku:
I don't know what those people have been smoking, but it must be pretty strong.

@Zototaoster:
I agree with your assessment of the first half of the film. Your assessment of the second half? I'd have to say you're crazy.
SPLOIERS:


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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 19:37
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My friend booked tickets the other day to see it tomorrow.

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It certainly does look bad. And at the moment I don't really have any reason to trust Omega. We seem to have different tastes completely.

Oh and Nick Cage and all his treasure finding movies?


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Posted: 26th Mar 2009 19:50 Edited at: 26th Mar 2009 19:53
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Can't be any good if it has Cage in it. That's the be all and end-all of the argument. The last good film he did was Con Air. Everything else he has warped and played for laughs. He couldn't even do Ghost Rider properly for crying out loud!

EDIT: Looks like a rip-off of the Number 23, which was actually a tolerable film (mainly because it didn't star Cage)


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Quote: "Can't be any good if it has Cage in it."

I don't know, I kinda liked "the rock" and "face off". I think Cage did it well on those.

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Quote: "I don't know, I kinda liked "the rock" and "face off". I think Cage did it well on those.
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Even so though - recently he definitely hasn't been up to scratch (at least compared to the possibility/scale of the material he is using)


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As I said, I haven't seen any other of Cage's films, but I think he does a pretty decent job in this one.

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I always like when Omega makes a movie thread because they are always "the greatest movie to come out in a long time." Or it sure seems like it lol.

Nick Cage can be very good but most of the time he's just okay. The Rock and Face Off were awesome I thought, but for the rest of his movies, they aren't too good.

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Quote: "I always like when Omega makes a movie thread because they are always "the greatest movie to come out in a long time." Or it sure seems like it lol."


Quote: "This is seriously the best movie I've see in at least four or five years."


Quote: "Best.
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Ever."


http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=132167&b=2

Quote: "Best.
ACTION MOVIE.
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http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=137775&b=2


Quote: "Awesomest thing ever."


http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=136358&b=2




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This movie looks alright. It seems to me like its another movie, not the best one ever, but a movie to keep you entertained for a few days. One day to watch it, and the next day to be "woa.... duuuuuuuuude."

Thats what I do after watching Nick Cage's movies, but Ive liked pretty much all of em.


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I think we need to cal in a mod. The movie is titled "KNOW1NG," not "Knowing." Jeez, guys. Cmon!

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Quote: "Looks like a rip-off of the Number 23"


Not really, it looked more like it was based on something like the "torah codes" thing.

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Every single movie I've ever liked was always rated very low on Rotten Tomatoes.
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I'm pretty sure that Knowing is the worst movie I've seen in a while. The first half wasn't half bad. The acting was disastrous. The computer animation was almost as bad as the acting. There were points in the movie where I would just laugh the acting and effects were so tacky.

I want my $8 back.

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I'm guessing you didn't find any faults in the computer animation in the first Star Wars?
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Quote: "Not really"


Besides the usage of numbers written on paper/scripture, and the connections to events in the past and present, which makes up the bulk of the film Granted, judging by the spoilers in this thread, the number 23 had a far more interesting / logical ending

Quote: "Every single movie I've ever liked was always rated very low on Rotten Tomatoes. "


Maybe you should evaluate your taste in movies (Surely not every film you like is low-rated on Rotten Tomatoes?)

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I'm guessing you didn't find any faults in the computer animation in the first Star Wars? "


That's an incredibly flawed comparison. Standards have increased by miles since then, and hence Joel is comparing against today's standards, not 1977 standards


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Quote: "I would just laugh"

So you did find some enjoyment from watching the movie eh? Maybe the actors acted bad on purpose, just to make you laugh. Its all a clever plot to steal your money from you.


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Quote: "That's an incredibly flawed comparison. Standards have increased by miles since then, and hence Joel is comparing against today's standards, not 1977 standards"


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Quote: "It's not the technology, it's the user. "


Technology, and hence the products of that technology, are created by persons in the said era - so the era shapes the expectations, but also what is created. So your comment is completely redundant - not to mention the fact it completely lacks relevance to the issue at hand: By criticising a 2009 film, Joel was not criticising/altering his ability to positively judge a film made 32 years earlier - we have different expectations when watching older films compared to the cutting-edge.

EDIT: If you were trying to imply the technology has not changed, and only the user has, then this is an equally flawed argument - because it is completely false


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Quote: "Technology, and hence the products of that technology, are created by persons in the said era - so the era shapes the expectations, but also what is created. So your comment is completely redundant - not to mention the fact it completely lacks relevance to the issue at hand."


The issue at hand is that Joel feels that the animation sucked. In my humble opinion, it does not. Sure, the Star Wars analogy was the not the brightest, but then again, who's side are you on? The side that thinks the movie's special effects sucked, or were good?
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Quote: "Besides the usage of numbers written on paper/scripture, and the connections to events in the past and present, which makes up the bulk of the film"


My point was more that there are plenty more sources of inspiration based on ancient patterns from which knowing could have been written. There have been plenty of real life numerical and encoded predictions of doom since forever ago. Its not like the number 23 is the first thing ever recorded to try and scare you with numbers.

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Quote: "My point was more that there are plenty more sources of inspiration based on ancient patterns from which knowing could have been written. There have been plenty of real life numerical and encoded predictions of doom since forever ago. Its not like the number 23 is the first thing ever recorded to try and scare you with numbers."


I didn't use my cellphone for 4 weeks after I saw Eagle Eye..

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Quote: ", but then again, who's side are you on? The side that thinks the movie's special effects sucked, or were good? "


I'm on neither - I'm a neutral party that points out glaring flaws in analogies. Besides, why is it necessary for me to have a 'side'/inform you of it in order to argue my point against your original statement? This seems to me to be a very clutching-at-straws methodology in order to divert attention from the lack of underlying logic in your argument

Quote: "My point was more that there are plenty more sources of inspiration based on ancient patterns from which knowing could have been written. There have been plenty of real life numerical and encoded predictions of doom since forever ago. Its not like the number 23 is the first thing ever recorded to try and scare you with numbers.
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I agree, I didn't realise you meant it in that way (in terms of concept originality etc.)


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eh? I don't even know what that film is about? What was the point of that?

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I agree, I didn't realise you meant it in that way (in terms of concept originality etc.)"


Fair enough, of course I can't say for sure where Knowing got its ideas from; but I imagined it would more likely have been from all the doom predictions in history

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10-4 Devil's Advocate.

Quote: "eh? I don't even know what that film is about? What was the point of that?"


It came out in the USA Septemberish 2008. Though your location shows England.
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It probably came out here, although I don't go to the cinema that often From looking at IMDB and wikipedia its some sort of weird conspriracy actiony film.

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It's tried what to do what Jaws did to people in the ocean. Except with Cell Phones... Sounds Cheesy.. Was decent. I liked it.
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On the Nick Cage issue, just to give my 2 cents, he is actually a reasonable actor, but he is also a 1 trick pony. Every character he plays is (or feels like) a variation on same personality. He's much like Arny in that respect, except with every Arny movie he pretty much did play the same character, where as Cage movies should be a little more involved.


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It actually does look pretty good. Thanks for the tip off, I would have never noticed this movie if it wasn't for this thread. Anything with Cage in it is automatically good. But I don't think any movie could ever beat The Dark Knight.

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Quote: "It actually does look pretty good. Thanks for the tip off, I would have never noticed this movie if it wasn't for this thread. Anything with Cage in it is automatically good. But I don't think any movie could ever beat The Dark Knight."


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Quote: "Oh and Nick Cage and all his treasure finding movies?
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That sir, is one treasure you hope you never find.


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I really liked those movies, FYI. The creativity that went behind solving the puzzles was intriguing. No, I'm not a minor either.
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I really liked those movies, FYI. The creativity that went behind solving the puzzles was intriguing. No, I'm not a minor either. "

Noted, but I'm still not changing my post.


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Hahaha, I know alot of people younger than me that didn't like it. It's cool.
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