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FPSC Classic Models and Media / Character Creator Toolkit by henry ham

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henry ham
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hi guys

i just wanted to run this idea past you.i have built a new Character base mesh & was thinking of making a basic package of media that you could use to build your own models from .

what i plan to include in the pack

BASIC BASE MESH,

UV TEMPLATE,

BASE MESH WITH FULL UV MAP,

BASE MESH WITH FULL UV MAP RIGGED WITH ALL ANIMATIONS FOR FPS CREATOR,

EXAMPLE MODEL FULLY RIGGED & TEXTURED (see merc images below )





BASE MESH



BASE TO FINAL



MERC EXAMPLE MODEL



INGAME SHOT ( to keep the mods happy )



i was thinking of charging $5.00 for this ,do you think its a fair price ?
is this somthing you would use ?
anything else you think i should add ?

let me know what you think .

cheers henry

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Dude232
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thats a great idea for people who need help with characters i would use this alot actually

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HoriZon
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Posted: 21st Apr 2009 02:01
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I would use it, looks grate

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Kurotatsu
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Well done Henry.

Good Idea.

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Simlpy Wonderful.Great Stuff

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Posted: 21st Apr 2009 02:24
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I'll buy. Any restrictions on what we make with it? As for what else you can put in it, any knowledge you want to impart on us.

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dark peanut
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Wow great work! I'm sure tons of people(me)will find this extremely usefull. I think 5 dollars sounds fair. Good luck

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maybe you can even tease people with a free demo version with limitations? It looks real good. I think 5 bucks is a totally fair price. Depends on how much work was done. I think u did alot, so this SHOULD cost 5-6 bucks!

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This looks Great!

And simple.

you should also possibly add some just "Regular" people, so they dont appear to not be wearing any clothing, but they have shirt/jeans on for example, that way people could have random 'civilians' in their games.

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henry ham
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Posted: 21st Apr 2009 11:04
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thanks for the comments guys ,keep them comming .

Quote: "I'll buy. Any restrictions on what we make with it?"


as long as you edit the media there would be no restrictions, then you can sell/give away any models that you make .

Quote: "you should also possibly add some just "Regular" people, so they dont appear to not be wearing any clothing, but they have shirt/jeans on for example, that way people could have random 'civilians' in their games."


thats what the base mesh is for ,you just pop it into your 3d modeling package & edit it to fit the sort of Character you need .

cheers henry

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Cyborg ART
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Posted: 21st Apr 2009 17:37
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I'll buy 3 Maybe 5. I really need this! (I found out that I wasn't that good at making characters. And now some guys are waiting for a few characters for a 360 game )

Good idea, will there be female meshes aswell?

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Paul112
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Sounds like a good idea, but how does the fully rigged model work? If we import that into a modelling app to make any changes to the mesh, the animation will be lost...

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Cyborg ART
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Nope, only if you move any joint/bone. Otherwise it will work as before. And if you add for example a helmet then just assign those vertices to the right joint/bone.

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Posted: 21st Apr 2009 20:08 Edited at: 21st Apr 2009 20:08
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All I could think of to add would be a basic female mesh and again.... any instructions/wisdom you care to share.

Waiting to purchase...

Best.

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Red Eye
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this looks awesome, i would purchase but my paypal account is doing weard

i do have a question:

do you still have this:

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=131646&b=24

probably not, as it is very old
, but still it is very good


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Posted: 21st Apr 2009 20:21
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great idea, this would be extremely usefull
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Posted: 21st Apr 2009 20:40
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Quote: "I'll buy 3 Maybe 5. I really need this!"


you only need the one mate then you can just edit it to your needs


Quote: "will there be female meshes aswell?"

Quote: "All I could think of to add would be a basic female mesh "

you should be able to edit the basic mesh into the female form ,but that said if enough people want one i will add that as well .

Quote: "any instructions/wisdom you care to share"


i may add a basic tut as well to help people get started.

Quote: "i do have a question:

do you still have this:

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=131646&b=24

probably not, as it is very old "


yes i will dig it out for you mate .

cheers henry

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Cyborg ART
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Posted: 21st Apr 2009 20:42
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Quote: "Quote: "I'll buy 3 Maybe 5. I really need this!"

you only need the one mate then you can just edit it to your needs "


I know, I just think $5 is too low, so I want to pay more. You see

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Posted: 21st Apr 2009 20:45
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Quote: "I know, I just think $5 is too low, so I want to pay more. You see "


LOL thanks mate

cheers henry

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Quote: "yes i will dig it out for you mate ."


thanks mate, very cool


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Posted: 21st Apr 2009 21:41 Edited at: 21st Apr 2009 21:42
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...this is top-notch, henry ham.

Please do let us know when your Toolkit is ready for purchase.

The $5.00 price is indeed much less than what you should be asking for this.

You've already got my cash...


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henry ham
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2009 00:30
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Red Eye file sent to your email

Quote: "The $5.00 price is indeed much less than what you should be asking for this.

You've already got my cash... "


thanks seth

cheers henry

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OMG Thank you so much... really cool...

Keep up the good work.


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henry ham
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2009 20:04
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just a small update ive finished the basic uv map & template ( see below )

also i was thinking of .x , .3ds & .obj file formats for the mesh do you think that will be enough ?



cheers henry

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Posted: 23rd Apr 2009 21:38
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Looks good! But I think you could use more of the space in the UV Map.

Could you please send me an e-mail when this is available for purchase?

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Quote: "But I think you could use more of the space in the UV Map."


its like that so you have room to edit it yourself & give you room to add extras .if i made it any bigger there would not be enough space .

Quote: "Could you please send me an e-mail when this is available for purchase?"


sure mate

cheers henry

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Hey there Henry! This is a really cool idea! (wish I thought of it!) Great work as always my friend.

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Quote: "Hey there Henry! This is a really cool idea! (wish I thought of it!) Great work as always my friend."


thanks mate i will try to have it ready in the next few days.

cheers henry

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Im buying,finally ill be able to do characters,will you write down the proper export settings too?

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Henry, I have sent you an email.

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Quote: "Henry, I have sent you an email"


replied

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Hi Henry


Did I overlook the buy link? I'd like to order. I'm going to include extra money. You were generous enough before to send me the other basic mesh. Please let me know. Thanks!
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Whoah, I'm lost. Are the base meshes already animated?



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Is the vert change not a problem for rigging? I'm just worried once people make changes the rigging will go to hell.


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Quote: "Did I overlook the buy link?"


no mate its not finished yet still need to add a few things i will start a new post when its ready

Quote: "Whoah, I'm lost. Are the base meshes already animated?"


there is 1 version that is fully rigged ,so you can wack a texture on it & get it ingame fully setup .

Quote: "Is the vert change not a problem for rigging? I'm just worried once people make changes the rigging will go to hell"


if you make changes to the pre rigged version you will need to rework the rig ,but i included it so people with no 3d knowhow can just texture it & have a basic character ingame very quickly.but saying that if you know your stuff it can be a shortcut to .

Cyborg ART has an early version of the toolkit & im hopeing he will be able to give a small review of the media for you all .

cheers henry

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Did you miss my question? I asked if you also write the proper exporting settings too?

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Quote: "Did you miss my question? I asked if you also write the proper exporting settings too?"


from what software mate ?

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Well from whatever you use,milkshape,3dsmax,...

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i will include the settings for max as thats what i use

cheers henry

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I will post a review later on today, but I can say that it is really easy to use, and looks sooooo good
It is even rigged in a better way than the stock characters, so now twisted hands etc.

For the moment I have only divided, snapped and moved faces and vertices, and for the moment there are no need to rerigg it.

A really great product, worth more than $5 so buy it twice

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Posted: 29th Apr 2009 19:41
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I would definetly buy it

Out of curiosity, what modelling software do you use?


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He uses 3dsmax

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He does?
I do too, and i can't figure out the way to unwrap a complete texture for my objects- i've tried "Texporter" but it only exports 1 mesh's unwrap, and i need it all to be in ONE texture file.


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Nvm, finally found a tut, and figured the whole thing out
YAY

Still don't know how to export an unwrap of an entire model (not single mesh) to an image file, that i can draw texture on,
but figured out how to draw the texture and then assigning the various parts to different parts of the model, so it works in FPSC:


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Simply dont select any faces and go to UVW unwrap and yo uhave the full layout.

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Short Review:

Quality:
Really good quality, you can make some really awesome characters with this basemesh. Fully animated, just import into FPSC.

Ease of use:
Its all up to the user, its not a "I am n00b but I will make a next gen character", you need a bit of experience with your 3D software, ot actually you just need to know how to select vertices (one vertex, two vertices) and move, scale and rotate them. Its that easy. And of course you can add your own mesh, like a backpack, or a cowboyhat.

Worth the price:
Its too cheap!

Other:
Works great, but laggs a bit (sometimes too much) in Milkshape, but I guess that is Milkshape´s problem
If you use Milkshape you may want to select all faces (polygons) and press Ctrl+W to weld all faces since when importing into Milkshape the faces are loose. It will give you a smoother surface.

Picture:
I just had to show what I have made so far with the mesh. No texture yet.


Notice: For some reason I had it "flat shaded" when I took the picture, when smooth shaded it is smooth.

Overall rating: plus a

Bare in mind that I dont know if the mesh has been updated, or will get updated before release.

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Cyborg ART thanks for a great review ,your character is comming along i look forward to seeing it textured .

the pack is finished i just need to sort out the store page on my site then i will make a new post.

cheers henry

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If I have this money too long, I'm going to spend it on candy instead. Just a warning!

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sorry i will upload to my site tommorrow mate ,just finishing off a comp entry (the deadline is today) so spending all my spare time on that .

cheers henry

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No problem bud. Just checking on you.

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