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Samoz83
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Posted: 10th May 2009 20:27
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Quote: "BF2 is so poorly coded that playing on any server over 200 ping is an amazing chore"

Surly it's a chore on any game with a ping of 200+
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dark coder
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Quote: "Surly it's a chore on any game with a ping of 200+ "


Not if they wrote any dead reckoning code.

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Samoz83
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Posted: 10th May 2009 21:18 Edited at: 10th May 2009 21:21
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BF2 uses interpolation i thought it was the same as dead reckoning code?
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James H
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Posted: 10th May 2009 21:48 Edited at: 10th May 2009 22:01
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You can overide the ping refresh rate ingame but I forget what you need to type(press"`" while ingame then type something in there) - the defaults are lame. I`ll get back with right info if I can find it

Edit - turning off eax can help too

Edit2 - actuall its not ping but this affects it, it fixed my high ping rate anyway:

Punkbuster scans your Pc every 20 seconds, which does implant lag while in-game (though not much, it can make a difference). Pb will let you change this, and make it 500 seconds (which is 8 minutes & 20 seconds). They allow no higher than this. This will obviously (if worried about detection), make you less likely to be caught with any hacks on your Pc that are suseptible to being caught. Some of you most likely already know this, but anyhow, here we go since I know there are some members out there who don't"

1. Join a PB-enabled Bf2 server
2. Spawn & open your console (console key to open: ~ or `)
3. Now type '/pb_sleep 500' (w/o quotation marks) and then press Enter.
4. Now you must save your PB file change by inputting this console command: /pb_writecfg

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http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:rjUSOUvCDZQJ:www.emforces.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D159+bf2+set+ping+console&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

Edit3 - soz, link won`t show up properly, also thers other stuff in there that can help
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James H
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Posted: 10th May 2009 22:23
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Is anyone bothering with this? I`m the only one here
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Zdrok
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Posted: 10th May 2009 22:26 Edited at: 10th May 2009 22:29
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-e- Never mind, too busy today. Sorry guys, I'm out too.

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Matt Rock
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I'll be in at 4pm, which is about 20 minutes from now. Look through the squad roster for a custom group called TGC, that'll be me. And if you don't see the TGC squad, look on the other team!

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puppyofkosh
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About to join...

EDIT: Weird..its fushee pass.
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Matt Rock
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Posted: 10th May 2009 23:51
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Were you not able to get in pup? Two of us were there, we're going to change servers though. New server info:

MoonGamers BF2 Karland Only
64.34.180.20

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James H
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Puppy: the last row of digits are the port - should end 67 not 68 for the moongamers
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puppyofkosh
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It just kicked me, Matt, I'll be back in a minute.
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Matt Rock
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I think it's kicking you because of punkbuster, do you have punkbuster A and B both working?

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puppyofkosh
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I'll be back later guys.
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Matt Rock
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New server details:

24/7 Wake TNT
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Vorg1
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Had fun playing BF2 with you guys today but my mic was all messed up.


fmcXcaliber

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James H
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Posted: 11th May 2009 06:23
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Yawn thats me done, Matts still at it, was good fun though.
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Matt Rock
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Ohhh! Vorg was fmcXcaliber lol, I had no idea. I just thought you were keen on our team lol. I played for about 20 minutes after James (howdini) left, then I logged. We should do that again sometime .

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dark coder
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Quote: "BF2 uses interpolation i thought it was the same as dead reckoning code?"


No, and it doesn't use lag compensation either. The source engine is a good example of how to correctly write networking code.

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Vorg1
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Yay that was a lot of fun but maybe we can get on the winning team next time lol.
I honestly have not touched that game since about september 2007. Forgot how much fun it actually was.

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puppyofkosh
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We should do that again sometime...then I can stay longer lol.
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Van B
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Yeah, I'd be up for a game next time - but I would suggest setting a strict start time with the time in GMT as well - that way I'll know what time and when it is. It also means I'll be able to find my BF2 CD in plenty of time.

If anyone likes Quake Wars : Enemy Territory, I'd be up for a game of that any day (it doesn't need the CD to run, hoo-freakin-ray). It's one of those games that I love to play with Bots but everytime I play with humans I get my lunch ate. I find it's really satisfying to kill hundreds of bots in a game, not a great deal of challenge at low difficulties but fun.


Health, Ammo, and bacon and eggs!
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Samoz83
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Posted: 11th May 2009 19:55 Edited at: 11th May 2009 20:04
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Quote: "No, and it doesn't use lag compensation either."

Well from what I've seen it does it has an 100ms default buffer for interpolation and some settings editable in the usersettings.con

Quote: "SettingsManager.U32Set GSInterpolationTime 100"


Thats what is inside looks like interpolation to me
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dark coder
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Posted: 12th May 2009 08:31
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But I'm not talking about interpolation, dead reckoning(extrapolation) and lag compensation(state recording) are both used to give all users with various pings more or less the same experience. Of course interpolation would be used else the movements of everything would be blocky but I'm not talking about this.

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Samoz83
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Posted: 12th May 2009 19:57
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right well it also does have extrapolation code as well...

Quote: "SettingsManager.U32Set GSExtrapolationTime 1200"
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Matt Rock
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I'd love to do it again whenever you guys want. Anyone up for another run this weekend? Saturday or sunday would work for me. Maybe I can get my mic working by then, too. What did my mic sound like to those of you who could hear it? Too quiet, or was it garbled and messed up that way?

That Wake server me and James played on near the end was loads of fun, we should play there again. And we should find a decent Jalalabad server, too. At one point during those Karkland games we almost had a full TGC squad going .

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Posted: 12th May 2009 23:13 Edited at: 12th May 2009 23:13
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I recommend we do CSS this weekend as pretty much everyone has it. We can just put [TGC] in front of our names.

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Quote: "I'd love to do it again whenever you guys want. Anyone up for another run this weekend? Saturday or sunday would work for me. Maybe I can get my mic working by then, too. What did my mic sound like to those of you who could hear it? Too quiet, or was it garbled and messed up that way?"


Yeah! You sounded like an old lady to me btw.

Quote: "I recommend we do CSS this weekend as pretty much everyone has it. We can just put [TGC] in front of our names."

I'd be up for that too.
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Matt Rock
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Hmm, I think I may be the only person who doesn't have counter strike, lol. Plus, it kinda makes a waste of my big uber joystick .

Quote: "Yeah! You sounded like an old lady to me btw."

That's absolutely terrifying lol

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I can host it if you'd like; I can just find a CSS server that is empty & we can play on it.

I'd need to see how many people would wanna do this, though.

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Quote: "it kinda makes a waste of my big uber joystick"


I started cracking up when I read that.
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Heh, now I get it.

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@Samoz83: Don't bother arguing, Dark Coder is one of those people that argues for the sake of arguing and won't budge on any issue and is very arrogant about his stance.


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Quote: "Dark Coder is one of those people that argues for the sake of arguing "


Well he knows his programming thats for sure. And freaking good at it. It is fun game I only ping 45-100 usually so it isn't horrible.


Games I would be willing to play with some of you guys.

COD 4
UT3
FEAR 2
BF2
BF Heroes beta
L4D
Americas Army
Really any multiplayer game I have I will play.

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Quote: "Don't bother arguing, Dark Coder is one of those people that argues for the sake of arguing and won't budge on any issue and is very arrogant about his stance."


What? If I can be shown to be wrong on any stance I hold then I will gladly change it; as anyone should.

Quote: "right well it also does have extrapolation code as well..."


Just because it has a variable for it, that doesn't mean it has dead reckoning code. I've played BF1942/BF2 and BF2142 a lot and can say from experience of this and various other games as well as knowledge of the networking theory that there is either no dead reckoning code in the Refractor 2 engine or it's amazingly bad to the point where it may as well not have it. As I'm in Japan, to play on English speaking servers I normally have to go to Australian ones which are around 200 ping for me, and it's all too easy to notice that I have to lead targets by my ping which wouldn't be necessary if there was dead reckoning. I'm not even talking about when the enemy moves around a lot, just walking in a straight line or something, and yes I do account for the bullet velocity which isn't really a factor in CQC. Try joining a server that you get 300-400 ping on and look for an enemy that's walking in a straight line and see if you can hit them, remember the amount you were leading them by and try the same thing in single player.

Anyway, I can play CSS(ideally), BF2 or COD4 but ideally on west coast US servers or Australian servers(or Asian) .

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Quote: "Hmm, I think I may be the only person who doesn't have counter strike, lol. Plus, it kinda makes a waste of my big uber joystick"
I don't have CSS.

For me it's TF2 all the way! The BEST multiplayer game period.
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Matt Rock
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Quote: "I started cracking up when I read that."

especially after thinking I sounded like a little old lady, lol. I was referring to my Saitek X52 Flight Control System . Pretty much the coolest item in the room I'm sitting in, other than your President, of course .

You should set up CS on one day, and then we can do BF2 a different day, or both of them the same day but at different times . I'm thinking saturday afternoon-ish, maybe 3pm to 7pm my time (ES, I'm -5:00 GMT) for BF2. Does that work for anyone?

Edit: In retrospect, this thread could have used a better title. We'll be celebrating May 10th every weekend until this thread dies out and we stop playing together, lol.

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My saturdays are pretty dull, so I'd probably be able to do it.
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Anyone up for it tomorrow?
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James H
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I probably will be
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Okay. Any time suggestions?
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James H
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I get up around 1pm (uk) so anytime between then and say 3am sunday?
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Matt Rock
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Is this CSS or BF2? If it's BF2 I'll definitely be there .

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I'll play CSS if the server is either Europe or East Coast USA
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I don`t have CSS unfortunately, so its BF2 only for me.
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I'm up for either, I'd prefer bf2 though, I always lag with CSS.
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I can't play today cuz I got called into work. Sorry.


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I'm out too sadly, my mom needs me to go over to her place and help her with some stuff .

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