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Grandma
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Posted: 10th May 2009 21:48 Edited at: 10th May 2009 21:54
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Oh dear.


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Posted: 10th May 2009 22:23 Edited at: 10th May 2009 22:23
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lol this thread has become hilariously off topic.

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Theoretically... what happens if you jump to warp and run into a planet? Will you hit it an the warpspeed and get spashed into protons and neutrons, or you you hit it with the "normal" speed within the "bobble" and just get smashed?

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Posted: 10th May 2009 22:52 Edited at: 10th May 2009 22:54
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You absord the planet into the bubble and the earth implodes, killing almost everyone. Really now, you expect any of us to come up with an answer for that? An answer that we didn't pull from our behinds that is. Guessing is fun though.

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Posted: 10th May 2009 23:39
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Lol, yeah. Was just my attempt to return to the topic of warp... lol, but it was maybe a bit off topic as well.

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Posted: 10th May 2009 23:48
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Quote: "lol this thread has become hilariously off topic."


Did it really have any other direction to go? It was just a matter of time. I mean speed.

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No, it was a matter of space-time.

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As to the comment about time inside the bubble, I believe because the space time inside that actual bubble is stable, that time should be unaltered within. Anyways, that's the theory. Space time is complex stuff, and while I'd say I'm fairly knowledgeable about this type of thing, I'm a Studio Art and Computer Science major, not a physics one. I don't know the actual math behind any of it terribly well, just the theories.

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u cant control time since time doesnt exit



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Posted: 11th May 2009 15:30
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Quote: "u cant control time since time doesnt exit"


Since time doesn't exit what? The room?

We already manipulate time through speed, so controlling it can't be that far off. Again.... it was not possible to manipulate time just a few years ago. What will be possible tomorrorw?

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Posted: 11th May 2009 22:00
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Quote: "u cant control time since time doesnt exit"

u can't join in this discussion bcuz u can't spel

What would happen if part of an object was in the warp bubble, and part was outside? would that part be ripped from the rest of the object?

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Quote: "What would happen if part of an object was in the warp bubble, and part was outside?"


That could create a time-space paradox, the results of which could cause a chain reaction that would unravel the very fabric of the space time continuum, and destroy the entire universe! Granted, that's a worse case scenario. The destruction might in fact be very localized, limited to merely our own galaxy.

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HA. That's great.

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All i know is that in the next 66 years (im almost 24) i want to see us land on mars put a man on it, and create a colony. Thats it. I think if we get warp drive before that we did something right. Thats assuming i live to be 90 years old. Who knows. But i hope within the next 66 years it happens.

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Quote: "If you're using a "bubble" with a wormhole at either end (as suggested earlier), won't the rock end up moving around the bubble, so you won't hit it?"


xD

That would make one hell of a bomb! SEND THE BUBBLE TO THE PLANET AND WATCH THE PLANET MORPH AROUND IT!

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no i really dont think warp speed is possible because i think matter cant go that fast,it will dissolve. i mean light & energy yes. so if you can convert the ship into pure energy then maybe.
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@David iz cool
The whole point is that the matter ISN'T going that fast. I think the basic theory is that you cause space-time to be compressed very small in front of you, and then it stretches back out behind you, and so even if you move at a very slow speed, you travel huge distances. (So if you compress it to 1/10,000 the original size, you would travel 10,000 times as fast as normal.)


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If the boffins are to keep to fiction time, then they only got till 2068 to do it in.

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Posted: 13th May 2009 19:40 Edited at: 13th May 2009 19:52
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Quote: "That would make one hell of a bomb! SEND THE BUBBLE TO THE PLANET AND WATCH THE PLANET MORPH AROUND IT!"


Um... well, no. Or at least, I don't think so.

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/172129main_gpb-earth-300dpi%20copy.jpg

That's a diagram of spacetime around the Earth. Gravity warps spacetime, which forms a sort of dip, around which the satellite spins. But space doesn't actually look any different (to us). Just because you've warped spacetime doesn't mean anything in the 3 dimensions we can see will actually look any different. If you were in a bubble of spacetime and travelled toward a planet, my guess is that you'd simply go through it. Of course, being in a sort of parrallel space-time place separate from the main universe, probably nobody would see you.

At least, that's what I've gathered from all those documentaries about Einstein. I'm sure a professional physicist would have a clearer view.

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Quote: "Quote: "What would happen if part of an object was in the warp bubble, and part was outside?"

That could create a time-space paradox, the results of which could cause a chain reaction that would unravel the very fabric of the space time continuum, and destroy the entire universe! Granted, that's a worse case scenario. The destruction might in fact be very localized, limited to merely our own galaxy."


What's that from? I recognize it (I think)...

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Hehe, thanks! I love all of the BTTF movies.

I'll use Google next time, too. lol

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Quote: "Is warp speed possible? Some scientists are saying it is."


We can't get a copy of DBPro to run right and you're talking about warp speed?

It's a fifty-fifty chance which will work first ;}



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Posted: 15th May 2009 05:45
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Quote: "no i really dont think warp speed is possible because i think matter cant go that fast,it will dissolve. i mean light & energy yes. so if you can convert the ship into pure energy then maybe. "



I think people need to actually be able to understand the theory before commenting on it...


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Eventually someone will get there, its basically impossible that it wont.
I mean, just think about how much technology has evolved since the 90s? Imagine how much it will evolve in 1000 years!
Weather it be in 10 years, 100 years, or a million years, one day, it will be very possible, out of all the billions of suns (stars) in the entire universe, its utter stupidity to think that we are the only life inhabited planet.
(not that anyone mentioned that, just thought I would point it out )


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Not necessarily. It may actually be physically impossible. Just because we potentially could get there, doesn't mean we will.

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The one thing that is impossible is time travel (or at least time travel along the same 'thread' of time) because otherwise they would be here now, from the future


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Unless there's some 'don't disturb' rule, which is highly likely if it was ever possible in the first place.

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Quote: "The one thing that is impossible is time travel (or at least time travel along the same 'thread' of time) because otherwise they would be here now, from the future"


Err no, because Starfleet eventually invent the temporal drive(or was it only a teleporter?) and can undo most changes to the timeline so you wouldn't know if they'd been here or not!

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