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Skynet Games
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Mr Z
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Quote: "Or you hear his voice screaming out of your speakers, yelling "ah you *******! Why the heck wont you guys come and save me!?!?! You guys totally stink at this game! Im Pro though...""


Reminds me of a guy who was the first to go down and was not very good, then called everyone else for a "noob" (not saying I was better or worse, cannot remember, lol). Personally I do not have anything against noobs, but I have something against jerks...

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The Nerd
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Quote: "and the only people I know that have it don't play it much anymore "


Well then let's start playing some more

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I think they should add in a gamemode with 2 teams of survivors, that fight against each other IN the zombie infested world. I think that would add some crazy twists to the gameplay.

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Jeku
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Posted: 7th Jun 2009 08:49 Edited at: 7th Jun 2009 08:49
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Quote: "I'm sorry, but I wouldn't call that 'strategy' by any serious stretch."


Well, comparing it to just running and gunning, then yes, that is technically a strategy, and it works for the tank.

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CoffeeGrunt
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To be honest, in CoD, your team can fragment into a bunch of individuals looking to get to rank 55 quickest rather than a team focused on victory pretty quickly...and they'll still probably win...

In Left 4 Dead, however, fragmenting = failure. You literally need to stay inches away from each other on expert, and when a tank comes, it takes the entire team to take it down, even when using molotovs...

I don't think I've ever fought a tank on expert without someone dying from it, (No Mercy is the worst, one hit and you fly off the Hospital roof!)...

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Benjamin
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All you have to do to beat the tank is have everyone use shotguns against it at close range (use dual pistols for everything else) and he's dead within seconds.

Quote: "Well then let's start playing some more"

Yay.

Quote: "even when using molotovs..."

I'm pretty sure molotovs don't do that much damage.

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Mr Z
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Quote: "I'm pretty sure molotovs don't do that much damage."


Molotov it, and it is dead within the next 60 seconds, or something, because of the molotov. All you have to do is survive that long.

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CoffeeGrunt
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Even less if you shoot at it...

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Benjamin
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Quote: "Molotov it, and it is dead within the next 60 seconds"

That's what I'm saying, it does hardly any damage. With everyone using combat shotguns against it you can kill it in under 10 seconds, on any difficulty.

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lazerus
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hoo-sar, The pc version has about fourteen extra campains, which all own, pain to get them working (you ned to open a programmer section to load )first time round but once youv figured it out, its easy!

huge oppertunity for your own maps aswell!

off the top of me head, thiers blood hospital-6parts, black paradise - 4parts(topical islands), Transit (or something)-6parts


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flashing snall
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Posted: 7th Jun 2009 19:42
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... abwau? Explain to me more.

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Jeku
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Posted: 7th Jun 2009 20:01
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Quote: "With everyone using combat shotguns against it you can kill it in under 10 seconds, on any difficulty."


But if everyone has shotguns it can be deadly when you're just shooting zombies. The spray hits the other team mates and it's not as accurate.

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http://www.l4dmods.com/index.php?option=com_joomloads&view=categories§ion_id=2&Itemid=133

http://www.l4dmaps.com/files.php?cat=3

explains all

cant find my original sites for them


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Posted: 7th Jun 2009 23:05 Edited at: 7th Jun 2009 23:06
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Quote: "But if everyone has shotguns it can be deadly when you're just shooting zombies."

Hence why you should use dual pistols (if you have them) to take out regular zombies. Although, what I've been saying mainly applies to survival mode. In campaign your best bet is to just run away and let your team mates die.

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Quote: "That's what I'm saying, it does hardly any damage. With everyone using combat shotguns against it you can kill it in under 10 seconds, on any difficulty."


Depends on the tank (if you are in survival mode, at last, since different players are different good at being tanks... I suck, lol) and on the players who are survivors. Have been in a position where a molotov made a huge difference. In any case, always best to be sure.

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My opinion about games is a lot like Toasty Fresh. The old Xbox games were awsome. Like Splinter cell, KoTOR, and Morrowind were some pretty good strategy games. They had many ways to play, with many different kinds of weapons. Some of the games you could play for 5 years and still find something new (not kidding)! If you can find a new game that good now, it's one of the few seeing as they are all about graphics and some gameplay. L4D is sometimes fun for just messing around, but those kinds of games get boring fast. You figure out you've been killing the same guys in the same place for a couple days, and you realise how boring that really was.

Just stating my opinion here.
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Oh and btw, if anyone feels like having a good laugh, you should read this
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=886356

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Quote: "In campaign your best bet is to just run away and let your team mates die."


It's so funny when Hunters jump people who do that though...

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The most surprising thing I see here is people reffering to xbox games as old.

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Quote: "most cybercafe machines struggle with Notepad."

I just can't stop laughing!

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Yes you can. It isn't funny.

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Lol, has anyone noticed, this is very against Valve's character?

The first Left 4 Dead was built in three months, then underwent three years of playtesting to perfection. Half Life 2 took 6 years to make, the episodes roughly 2 years each, and episode three is still vapourware 2 years after episode two was released...

If they're starting to turn games over in a year, which is quick even by other game design teams' standards, will they lose that highly-polished sheen that comes from them playtesting and improving the heck out of it for years? If so, it may be a disappointing rehash of the original, and if this reflects Valve's new game design attitude, then maybe Episode Three will fail too?

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@CoffeeGrunt: The reason this is coming out in only a year is most likely because the following. It will most likely be a reskinned L4D that could probably be released as a map pack. Unless this one has 6+ different campaigns, it probably won't be worth the $50.

A group of people on Steam started a boycott, and sent a petition. Just for kicks, I joined the "boycott the L4D2 boycott". Anyways, I'm not sure if L4D2 will be good or not. I'll wait for reviews and player responses, then I'll rent it and forge my own opinion. If I like it, I'll buy it.

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I will not be paying $50 for L4D 2.

However, if they release L4D 2 along with Episode 3 and Portal 2, and call it Blue Box, I will buy. I will most definitely not buy if they call it Green Box or Red Box, it has to be called Blue Box.
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Mr Z
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Quote: "A group of people on Steam started a boycott, and sent a petition. Just for kicks, I joined the "boycott the L4D2 boycott". Anyways, I'm not sure if L4D2 will be good or not. I'll wait for reviews and player responses, then I'll rent it and forge my own opinion. If I like it, I'll buy it."


Isn´t that a bit... extreme? It is only a game, after all...

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If they package it up, I will buy it. But I will not be buying it alone for quite some time.

The boycott is 20,000 members strong. If valve plans on charging $50 for it, they just lost $1,000,000. Of course that's IF all the signers honor their word.

I'm not really taking a side. I just don't want to dish out that sort of money on a new L4D yet. I'm not making it into a hate thread or signing petitions, that's just my choice.

Frankly I think this boycott of theirs is 'cute.' They have no idea what a real boycott is.

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Quote: "If they package it up, I will buy it. But I will not be buying it alone for quite some time.

The boycott is 20,000 members strong. If valve plans on charging $50 for it, they just lost $1,000,000. Of course that's IF all the signers honor their word.

I'm not really taking a side. I just don't want to dish out that sort of money on a new L4D yet. I'm not making it into a hate thread or signing petitions, that's just my choice.

Frankly I think this boycott of theirs is 'cute.' They have no idea what a real boycott is."


That is the thing, if you do not want to buy the game, don´t buy it. Boycott is something more then that... I think, lol.

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All of those in that boycott group will buy L4D2.

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... I would pay 50 dollars for six new good quality maps, some new graphics, more special zombies, better mod tools, and an improved AI director, even if they came out as DLC.
Although, I think that blue box is a splendid idea . DO WANT PORTAL 2!!!

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How much info on L4D2 is there out? From what I'm seeing a lot of people are making assumptions, all I saw out of E3 to do with L4D2 was that trailer, unless there's something I'm missing?

A boy-cott is a bit extreme, surely customer complaints and demands for refunds is a better thing to do IF the game turns out to be a load of crap that Valve put little effort into? A boy-cott of 20,000 strong is ridiculous considering nobody has actually played it yet and nobody really knows what's in store for them, surely?

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Quote: "Frankly I think this boycott of theirs is 'cute.' They have no idea what a real boycott is."


Abstaining from buying or using something is a boycott (whether political or not). How could their boycott be any more "real" exactly?

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We all know that the boycotters dont believe in what they're doing. They'd buy L4D2 but they just dont approve of it's development
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Quote: "However, if they release L4D 2 along with Episode 3 and Portal 2, and call it Blue Box, I will buy. I will most definitely not buy if they call it Green Box or Red Box, it has to be called Blue Box."


Yes! I had an interview with Valve just as the economy was going down the tank, and they set me up with their entire collection on Steam, plus all their future games for free. I would still buy the Blue Box for friends, though

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Quote: "Yes! I had an interview with Valve just as the economy was going down the tank, and they set me up with their entire collection on Steam, plus all their future games for free. I would still buy the Blue Box for friends, though "

So what your telling me is, that you have all valve games past, present, and future secured for you FREE? That is one sweet set up.

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Yes! I had an interview with Valve just as the economy was going down the tank, and they set me up with their entire collection on Steam, plus all their future games for free. I would still buy the Blue Box for friends, though"


Are you serious? Just for an interview?
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Quote: "Are you serious? Just for an interview? "


He forgot to mention that he did a lot of suave talking. But that was supposed to remain a secret.
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