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tiresius
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Hey everyone-

Now I'm not a prude by any means, but I'm finding these Evony ads that are practically on EVERY post to be inappropriate for this forum, which is supposed to be safe for young teens if I remember correctly?

If you haven't seen them yet just read more than a few posts and you will see one. Basically it's a pretty woman laying down in a nightie, with massive cleavage, and the words "Start your journey now, my Lord" on her body. Isn't that a bit suggestive?

The biggest irony will be if my mention of Evony tips GoogleBot into displaying the Ad which I'm complaining about.

I like to surf these forums during off times at work, but having flesh colored graphics of any kind scrolling by on my screen has the chance to attract unwanted attention from coworkers. And that sort of thing I don't need, ya know?

I already contacted TGC support suggesting its removal but, didn't get a reply. Maybe it's not in their control but I would think they can control the GoogleBot somehow?

And I don't care if you like the picture. I like it too. But I don't like it on these forums! That's what I'd like to discuss. Mainly I'm wondering if I am way off base here or if others think it's a bit much for what this forum stands for?

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use firefox and adblock

i havent seen a advert in the last year or so and if i ever do i simply block it.

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Quote: "The biggest irony will be if my mention of Evony tips GoogleBot into displaying the Ad which I'm complaining about."



Yup. Well, now it changed.

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David R
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The thing is, there is nothing strictly 'dodgy' about it - that kind of imagery is visible everywhere, on TV adverts, (non-porn) magazines, billboards etc.

It's so prevalent in society that I don't there's any real 'case' against it - even as a forum with minors etc. visiting it.

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On a related note, I have seen at least 7 other unique "Free MMORPG" type adverts with scantily clad females in more suggestive poses than that. Trying to lure the basement-dwelling pervert gamer demographic, I imagine.

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Yeah, I'm not keen on those adverts either.

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Posted: 23rd Jul 2009 00:37 Edited at: 23rd Jul 2009 00:37
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I noticed it the first few times and remember being slightly shocked that it was there, but I spend so much time around here my brain has pretty much learned to ignore the Google ads. I only remember seeing the one on this page because the topic was about it .



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The worst thing is, Evony is just some stupid 2D RTS, hardly erotic at all, and there are ads for it saying things like "play now secretly". It's very insulting. To quote:
Quote: "Trying to lure the basement-dwelling pervert gamer demographic, I imagine."


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Quote: "The worst thing is, Evony is just some stupid 2D RTS, hardly erotic at all, and there are ads for it saying things like "play now secretly". It's very insulting. To quote:"


Apparently you must've played the game before, no?
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Tom J
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I haven't got a clue what you're talking about, I haven't seen any of these ads? =s
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First time I saw the ad I clicked it and signed up... Only problem is when you load the game, it creates a side page on the left with the flash game about 3x2 inches in size...can't do anything!!

...but seriously, I didn't click it because of the..'suggestive'...content.


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Posted: 23rd Jul 2009 01:12 Edited at: 23rd Jul 2009 01:14
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Here, found one in the first thread I clicked on:



They're all over the stupid internet, even got to Schlock Mecenary and Empire Earth Heaven



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Quote: "They're all over the stupid internet,"


I was just saying to Jenkins the other day that I was seeing this woman on every site I was visiting. They also have ads with just a armour clad knight but the 2 with the women seem to appear more often.

The game's rubbish anyway. No women anywhere

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Oh ok, so that's what you're talking about. It seems quite surprising that I have managed not to see it then, I probably also didn't pay attention to the google ads

Even though that's a pretty transparent way to get you to sign you for a MMO, I would probably agree that it is not too bad, or at the least no worse than any similar ads.
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Yeah - Great article about the evony ads:

Coding Horror: How not to advertise on the internet (evony ads)

Well written indeed.

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I thought the same thing Tiresius, your not alone. I have seen her on almost every site I frequent. It's getting old. Lol, is that all it is? A 2D FPS? Lmao

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Quote: "I was just saying to Jenkins the other day"

Haha yeah I saw this thread and it just made me laugh. I didn't bother saying anything though lol.
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Quote: "is that all it is? A 2D FPS?"

No, a 2D RTS.
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Miss-typed. I was thinking RTS but typed FPS

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So, I quite often see a lingerie ad on here. That has to be more suggestive imagery, no?

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I'm seriously sick of seeing this latest one. That girl's a blonde cliche slut. She's not even good looking, she just has big boobs. I can't wait for Evony to crash and burn. It's kind of disgusting how far the ads have spread. You can't go anywhere without seeing them.
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Sid Sinister
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Keep saying lingerie, maybe we can change the ad

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Stupid, misleading, getting old fast... yes. But that's advertising and a whole different subject.

Inappropriate? No. I don't think so in comparison to what can be seen anywhere else.

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Posted: 23rd Jul 2009 19:28 Edited at: 23rd Jul 2009 19:29
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I think that's summed it up nicely xplosys. Technically, there's nothing wrong with it, and it's not the worst ad out there. Having said that - the ads are everywhere, and they're bloody annoying.

EDIT: Nice link ZekeGames, that last and most recent ad of theirs is really pushing the limit.

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Boo hoo. If you don't want to see cleavage then you better lock yourself in a basement, destroy any electronic equipment and stay there forever. If you don't want to see it on this site then get an ad blocker such as AdBlock Plus.

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Posted: 23rd Jul 2009 20:01 Edited at: 23rd Jul 2009 20:03
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Quote: "and they're bloody annoying"


I agree - and they cast TGC in a poor light.

The mere fact we're having this discussion suggests the ads violate the AUP. Someone should do something about it.

It's true that you see more scantily dressed characters in images in various threads on this site - but most of those are in context and completely inoffensive (unless you are easily offended). Vickie's screenshots in her Witchgate WIP thread are a good example - excellent graphics relevant to the game. But these ads are just bloody irritating.

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Quote: "If you don't want to see it on this site then get an ad blocker such as AdBlock Plus."


Why on earth should I block everyone's ads?
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silly question but is tht person in the ad a real person or a 3d model

i wouldnt mind being that gooder modeler who needs real girls when you can control your own and do what ever you want maybe even go into clay modeling rig it up to a puppet thing and maybe then model out a few kids and their i have it a family
and when they get on your nerves you could behead them without any of those annoying police hasseling you
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/facepalm

@GG: Agreed.

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Uh... Cong? Taken your pills today?

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Quote: "when they get on your nerves you could behead them without any of those annoying police hasseling you "


wait have you tried that on a real person then.....
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Quote: "i wouldnt mind being that gooder modeler who needs real girls when you can control your own and do what ever you want maybe even go into clay modeling rig it up to a puppet thing and maybe then model out a few kids and their i have it a family
and when they get on your nerves you could behead them without any of those annoying police hasseling you "


LOL. Seek professional help. Now.

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His avatar's Ralph, what do you expect?

Quote: "It's true that you see more scantily dressed characters in images in various threads on this site - but most of those are in context and completely inoffensive (unless you are easily offended). Vickie's screenshots in her Witchgate WIP thread are a good example - excellent graphics relevant to the game. But these ads are just bloody irritating."

Exactly! The game has nothing to do with women! It's just their stupid marketing ploy. It's getting old.

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I, too, have seen these all over the place. Easily 30% of the major sites I've visited lately.

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Apparently it is a rubbish game that has stolen ideas from other RTS and sucks money out of its players. Unsurprisingly, the game is run by the same people who operate WoWMine (Chinese gold farmers).

See: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2009/jul/15/games-evony-spam-internet

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Quote: "Boo hoo. If you don't want to see cleavage then you better lock yourself in a basement, destroy any electronic equipment and stay there forever."


Learn to read

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Quote: "Lean to read
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Learn to proofread

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And to wite perhaps?
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Great minds think alike GG we both used the same smiley and posted at the same time

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Leaning had no effect on ability to read.

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Quote: "Learn to proofread"


Lean to adjust for edits

Quote: "And to wite perhaps? "


....

(I hope that was intentional)

EDIT:
Nex, size down the pic - most of it's dead space, and some of us are on laptops/netbooks (1280x800 on here)

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I think that might have been in jest seeing as both missing letters are "R".

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Oh dear, I forget that some people can't see a joke unless it is surrounded by canned laughter or shouted at you as in "The Lucy Show".
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Sorry! Double post - forgot to look at next page.
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They're annoying me as well, they're damn frustrating in animation classes especially

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Careful with your jest's, someone might come a long and make a big deal out of it.

Quote: "Oh dear, I forget that some people can't see a joke unless it is surrounded by canned laughter or shouted at you as in "The Lucy Show"."


Ah, maybe that was my problem. Maybe I'll go adjust my thread.

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Quote: "Oh dear, I forget that some people can't see a joke unless it is surrounded by canned laughter or shouted at you as in "The Lucy Show""


Maybe I should have put 'that' in italics - but re-read my entire post. Obviously some people can't see jokes

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It's a passing trend. Hopefully.

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wow Bi##h fight lol

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ROFL @ Nex. That had me laughing.


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Quote: "Careful with your jest's, someone might come a long and make a big deal out of it. "


Friendly jests are fine. False accusations are another thing

Myself, I haven't come across any of these ads yet apparently they're prevalent all over the net. Has anyone actually tried the game?

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