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Potassium
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Posted: 7th Aug 2009 23:02 Edited at: 8th Aug 2009 16:25
Well almost everybody in my school is a noob. I think I'm the only kid or at least one of the only, people in my school that program. most kids don't code. Most kids don't do 3d modeling. Its a shame....

This forum is a place where intellectuals from all over the world can unite.

Seriously does anybody else feel like this, or is it just me?

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Posted: 7th Aug 2009 23:06 Edited at: 7th Aug 2009 23:07
Well, I take some programming courses (Taking an advanced java course this year), so there is always someone to talk to about programming. But, I don't know anyone except for a kid that lives down my street that does game programming, everyone else does hacking, or other random junk. Oh and I generally don't ask random people what a float is so I don't experience that problem

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Posted: 7th Aug 2009 23:08
The float was just an example, ask what C++ is and they'll probably give a similar response. One student was so noobish they didn't know what "Nintendo" was.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2009 23:14 Edited at: 7th Aug 2009 23:14
Well not knowing what Nintendo is, is pretty sad

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Posted: 7th Aug 2009 23:28
The plight of the pedantic is in full swing, I see.

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Posted: 7th Aug 2009 23:41
So... what exactly is a float?


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Posted: 7th Aug 2009 23:42
Do you expect the entire world to be well-versed in programming knowledge? Would you know the parts of a car if someone was talking about them? Would you know different medical terms that people interested in the medical field were using? Would you know technical terms that film students would use? Do you know famous artists and the vocabulary of art? Would you know various specifications and names of military vehicles and weapons if someone going into the military asked you?

Not knowing how to program does not make you stupid, it just means that's not what you are interested in.

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School is full of people that you don't really need. "

If the entire world consisted of game development companies, that would be true. Strangely, there is more to the world than game development.


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Posted: 7th Aug 2009 23:42
Somebody said that if there was a Dark basic class people would join, thinking they could make the next GTA or Halo.

Quote: "But, I don't know anyone except for a kid that lives down my street that does game programming, everyone else does hacking, or other random junk."


I have two friends who generally are in there own world thinking they're so elite or something just because they own a lot of video games and get straight A's. When i mention programming or 3ds mnax they say "3ds max your face", , or they just ignore and talk about random junk.

There's a big difference between a wanna-be (majority of school) and an achiever (very few in a school).

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Posted: 7th Aug 2009 23:44 Edited at: 7th Aug 2009 23:45
A float is....

here's an example:

3.14f (floats are decimal numbers really, there are also double which holds more data then a float)

But I just mentioned above about kids just playing video games or do nothing. Who would you accept, the kid that playes Cod5, or the kid that programs an epic fps made in DBPro. I'd pick the second.

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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 00:04
There are also 8-bit floats, 16-bit floats, 7-bit floats (yeah, why not?), Fleetwood Mac,and so on....

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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 00:08
I'm actually the only kid ever who knows how to program.

Awkward...

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Inspire, are you the only kid in school who programs?

Don't worry about it, you're not alone...

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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 00:14 Edited at: 8th Aug 2009 00:20
Quote: "Ask a kid what a float is and they'll say "WTF are you talking about???""


Yes. And they'll probably reply the same way if you ask them about some complex medical instrument, or if you ask them to explain some obscure mathematical principle, or if you ask them about augmented intervals. Not everybody is interested in learning about computers and programming, similar to how not everybody is interested in learning about medical instruments, mathematics, or music. And the fact that you're the only one who has an interest in computers at your school does not make you any better than everybody else.

Quote: "3.14f (floats are decimal numbers really, there are also double which holds more data then a float)"


Floats don't have to be decimal numbers--they can be of many different bases (yes, I know what you meant by decimal but I'm just being nit-picky ).

Quote: "Who would you accept, the kid that playes Cod5, or the kid that programs an epic fps made in DBPro. I'd pick the second."


Well I guess I'd need more information about these kids. Is the second kid an elitist jerk that posts online about how much better he is at life than everybody else at his school?

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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 00:26 Edited at: 8th Aug 2009 00:26
AndrewT: But the fact that you "use C++" and like "orange" makes you better than the rest of us.


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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 00:27 Edited at: 8th Aug 2009 00:28
Well suppose the kid who plays Cod5 is a jerk who only talks to a few people and thinks he's so cool cause he has pwnage skills on Xbox live. The kid who programs is arrogant but can accomplish tasks well.

@everybody

I am targeting people who only play videogames and are jerks, OR people who do absolutely nothing at all. I was sick of having some friends who ignore me because they think they're elite, when they talk about Halo 3 multiplayer at lunch and don't really do much.

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Quote: "AndrewT: But the fact that you "use C++" and like "orange" makes you better than the rest of us."


I find it funny that you write "use C++" as if you're quoting me, despite the fact that I never said anything about C++ in my post.

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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 00:38 Edited at: 10th Aug 2009 16:27
Something floating in my brain.

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Quote: "I was sick of having some friends who ignore me because they think they're elite, when they talk about Halo 3 multiplayer at lunch and don't really do much."

If you lose friends based on your video game skills then both you and your old friend(s) have to get out more often.

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No I don't its just that two of my friends are sort of in their own world.

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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 00:49
Quote: "I'm actually the only kid ever who knows how to program. "


Nah, ur one of the two

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Quote: "I find it funny that you write "use C++" as if you're quoting me, despite the fact that I never said anything about C++ in my post."
I find it sad that you don't know why I put it in quotes.


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Potassium: I'd like you to explain to me what long form improvisational theatre is, and when you've done that how about you explain how it was used in the 1500s by Italian street artists?

Oh, sorry, you can't? Man, you're such a noob.

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Potassium, get over yourself. You're not a hero for knowing how to program as a child... you're a nerd.

But hey, we're all nerds here. Don't beat yourself up too much.


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To be fair, do you know what a lepton is? Probably not, because that's involved in a very specific field of physics. You can't expect everyone to know everything in such specific areas, lest they be known as a "noob".
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I know more than my ICT teachers...

They ask me in my breaks to help fix Desktop issues.

-_-"

Its not even that am NErdY, I just know problems when i see them...

Ah stupid teachers...

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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 01:16 Edited at: 8th Aug 2009 01:18
Dang...must mean I'm a noob. Well guys I'm off to live in a corner the rest of my life crying over my noobines.



In all seriousness why target people who just play video games at all? If you find them arrogant don't attack them try to lift them from their arrogant-ness...or just leave them alone

Quote: "Seriously does anybody else feel like this, or is it just me?"


I think its just you...but that could be just me...

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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 01:29 Edited at: 8th Aug 2009 01:41
Number of people who could program at school: I was probably one of the only in my year.

Could I do all of the things they could do? I wasn't as good as some people at maths or tech, though I was top-set in biology, chemistry and physics, but there were people far better at it than me. In terms of non-curricular stuff, a few of my friends were into skateboarding and parkour - one of them was top for most classes, another copied all of my maths work and managed to get a higher grade than me. One girl in our year, much to my surprised played bowls professionally (not a popular sport, I know) Quite a few of the 'cool' people went to 6th form or even university...not to study programming, mind you, but to do other things like History, Politics, Biology and others went onto do apprenticeships like working with mechanics. Whilst those at the bottom of the class are probably working in factories or construction - I know one who was training to be a fireman.

So I wouldn't look down at people who can't program, after all Historians, Politicians, Sportsmen, Biologists, Chemist, Politicians, factory works, construction men and firemen all contribute some way to our society. I mean whilst you're programming on your Dell, the fireman will be there to save you from when it explodes.


Also, as I'm a writer and a lover of language, in this sentence can you tell me the nominative and accusative case-forms in this sentence: "Jack went up the hill."
Or a difficult one, in Old Norse is the inflexion in the following word nominative or accusative? "Hestr" This is a very basic Old Norse question, any beginner would know it.


So the point is, everybody has their specialist areas of knowledge and what they want to learn and programmers aren't the only people needed in this world, so we don't need to be assuming everybody else is too dumb or a 'noob'.

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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 01:33
They tried to introduce programming in C++ for high level maths and ICT students here. Hardly anyone got it so it was dropped fast.

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Quote: "Inspire, are you the only kid in school who programs? "


No, in my post I clearly stated I'm the only kid who EVER programmed. EVER.

.....

On a more realistic note, I know a bunch of people who are very not noobish in my school.

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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 02:54 Edited at: 8th Aug 2009 02:55
I only know one other person that can program, my best friend, but he uses GM7, or was it GML? I forget. What is that programming tool from yoyo games?

Anyway, apart from him I'm the only one in my school. It's probably because I'm in a German school and no one knows English well enough to comprehend programming languages.

Erm, What's Nintendo again?

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Yeah I guess I'm too arrogant. School will start soon, so i guess I'll try to be more respectful.

Well thanks for all of your help, I guess I learned my lesson.

Cheers

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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 04:09 Edited at: 8th Aug 2009 04:14
My school offers programming classes in C++, Java, and Python through a career center in town. They get quite a bit of interest and I've had various friends in them.

I suppose it comes down to where you live, and what level of school you're actually in.

Quote: "Ask a kid what a float is and they'll say "WTF are you talking about???""


Regardless of my knowing what a float is in programming, I would tell you it's a really yummy mix of ice cream and soda.




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Quote: "Regardless of my knowing what a float is in programming, I would tell you it's a really yummy mix of ice cream and soda."


*drools* Me loves Ice Cream soda (or floats).

I wonder, could you convert that float into an integer, though preferably I'd like you to convert it into my mouth.

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Never expect anybody to know about programming especially kids that play games. They usually don't know or even care how the games accomplish what they see.

When we see games we analyze and try to figure out just how they do what they do. The first time I saw Gauntlet in the arcade I was amazed at the digitized voices. I thought "How the heck do they do speech with so many combinations?". It didn't take long to realize that the speech was separated but played so close together it seems like it was recorded at the same time.

"Red" "Warrior" "is about to die"

"Blue" "Wizard" "needs food badly"

Did the kids playing Gauntlet care about the speech?... nope, (I didn't tell them either) they just wanted to play the newest game.

Don't let their ignorance of the technical side of games stop you from making friends with non-programmers. Really you should try to introduce Darkbasic to as many of them as you can... but don't be afraid of hearing "That's stupid". Not everybody is cool like we are.

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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 11:47 Edited at: 8th Aug 2009 11:51
Quote: "To be fair, do you know what a lepton is? Probably not, because that's involved in a very specific field of physics."

I can't say exactly what it is, but in general physics (highest available level at the institution, but still) in secondary upper school we at least learnt that it was an elementary particle. I don't remember where it was to be found, its anti-particle or mass/energy, but we sure read up on that too.

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Quote: "I wonder, could you convert that float into an integer, though preferably I'd like you to convert it into my mouth."


i bet i could convert MY integer into YOUR MOM's mouth...

couldn't resist...

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Yeah, people at my school are really annoying. Questions like "Does a cartridge or a cd have better graphics" have been the topic of several "serious" debates in my class (err, while everyone wasn't learning english XD).

For me, it's not a reason not to be friends with non-tecchies (err, there aren't many tecchies anyways), it's just a reason to keep my main hobby seperate from my friends... which is really irritating sometimes.

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I am very late to this topic but I have to agree. I'm only in the upper part of high school (year 11) and i think, I'm pretty much the only person who knows the difference between a WAN and a LAN. When I asked one of my mates (who comes up with random terrible jokes when he doesn't know the answer), he said that a LAN was a Lazy-Ass Network ?!

I wish more people coded... Well, then people like us who do code wouldn't be special (an in being special we have a rare tallent required for the gaming industry )

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@INH: Long form improvisational theatre was a form of sketch improv comedy in which actors would create a "persona" or character and act as that character would for 3 acts. The actors would enter and exit as they pleased, and scenes would change naturally as the cast shifted. This form of theatre eventually led to plays such as Carlo Goldoni's "La Casa Nova", or "The New House", which took the system of improvisational, character-based humor and lent it more structure.

That was all off the top of my head; no wikipedia, no dictionary.com, or anything similar.

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Well that's a very specific description. From what I've learnt, it doesn't have to be comedy, and there's no specified length of time (eg three acts), it's just a longer version of classic short improv, so rather than being based off short sketches with lots of 'ideas', it's one or two ideas which are explored over a very long period of time so that there's much more detail.

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A float is a gloat, bloat, moat,...

I started programming because I got bored of the video games I was playing and so I eventually found Dark GDK. I was like, "Time to make next epic FPS". I failed many times but eventually I got better so now I feel smarter.

Common video games kids play these days:
-Cod5
-Cod4
-World of Warcraft
-Super Mario Galaxy
-Wii Sports (maybe)
-Battlefield 2
-Halo 3

I may be wrong, I own Battlefield 2, but I got sick of the high ranking players who have no life should throwing grenades and getting 100+ kills in one round.

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I'm just repeating what I learned from the director when I was in "La Casa Nova", so take it with a grain of salt.
/offtopic

I know what you mean, I am one of the most computer-savvy kids in my school, but I keep it to myself, as nobody else has the patience for wondering how Killcam works in COD4.

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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 16:45 Edited at: 8th Aug 2009 16:46
Once you start applying to university, you'll find prior knowledge to be deemed irrelevant, and hardcore maths skills to be the currency for entry. So don't dismiss people as 'noobs' - because no doubt some of them will obliterate you in the maths department, and potentially get into computer related courses that you can't. It's frustrating, but it will inevitably happen.

The tables turn, effectively. Enjoy

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Quote: "I'm just repeating what I learned from the director when I was in "La Casa Nova", so take it with a grain of salt. "

Aye, you should probably take what I say with a pinch of salt too, as I'm remembering off the top of my head what I was taught by my theatre teacher.

EDIT: Mmmm, floats. I'm sure they have a different name here in England but they taste just as good. Mint choc chip + coke? Yes.

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Quote: "So don't dismiss people as 'noobs' - because no doubt some of them will obliterate you in the maths department, and potentially get into computer related courses that you can't"

Couldn't agree with you more.

You need Maths for Comp Science, Engineering, Physics etc
and Chemistry for Medicine, Dentistry and bio sciences


Really you sound quite arrogant to think you are better than everyone in your class because you know how to program.

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got a add these to the list.

1. carnival float.
2. fishing float.
3. float on water.
4. float by.

I'll float off now.

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Posted: 8th Aug 2009 17:48 Edited at: 8th Aug 2009 17:48
@ Potassium

I think you forgot:

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Look at Bill Gates.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates

The wiki says he was using the school computers a lot. Now of course there's only one Bill Gates, but...

Quote: "After his administrators became aware of his programming abilities, Gates wrote the school's computer program to schedule students in classes. He modified the code so that he was placed in classes with mostly female students. He later stated that "it was hard to tear myself away from a machine at which I could so unambiguously demonstrate success." At age 17, Gates formed a venture with Allen, called Traf-O-Data, to make traffic counters based on the Intel 8008 processor. In early 1973, Bill Gates served as a congressional page in the U.S. House of Representatives. In 1977, Bill Gates was arrested for a traffic violation."


See what I mean?

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You're right, out of all the programmers I know, at least 95% are multi-millionaire software giants.

Guess we've lost the argument.

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Potassium, not to burst your bubble again, but Bill Gates was doing stuff a lot more complex than DarkBasic.


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I use dark gdk, not dark basic. And plus I'm still a kid.

BiggAdd I was saying there is only ONE Bill Gates.

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