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Geek Culture / Some questions on High-Definition video editing

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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 3rd Sep 2009 04:27
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Hey guys,

I have been shopping around for High-Definition camcorders, because I want my next film to be shot in awesome detail and to look more professional.

However, I have a few questions concerning the AVCHD video format.
I've heard that it takes a lot of power to edit this format of video. Would a 2.0GHz processor and 2GBs of RAM do the job, or do I need more RAM or a better processor? Please answer both of those questions, as they're the most important right now.

Also, should I get an AVCHD camcorder that records to a Hard Drive, or to Flash Memory, or should I just get a camera that records to a DV tape and transfers to HDV?
(The HDV one looks expensive, but there are less-expensive models I know of.)

Anyone who can answer all of these questions will make me very happy! Thanks in advance!

-Yodaman Jer

Hoping that, one day, I'll finally get around to producing a game for you all to play.
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JLMoondog
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Posted: 3rd Sep 2009 05:06 Edited at: 3rd Sep 2009 05:07
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Probably the best low budget indie camcorder out there would be the Canon VIXIA HV40. MiniSD are easy to transfer videos, my computer has a miniSD slot on the front of the tower.

It also has a plug-in for a mic. Get a decent cheap shotgun mic, and you got yourself an awesome setup.

For editing, Elements is probably the way to go if your not doing anything too special with effects or anything. If you want to add more, then Adobe After Effects is the way to go.

I'm trying to get into indie filmmaking and have been looking up this stuff recently.


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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 3rd Sep 2009 05:08
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Yeah, the HV40 sounds good. It also records to MiniDV tapes, which I prefer over Hard Drives.

I also read that standard HDV is easier to edit than AVCHD, mainly because more software is compatible with HDV. While the VIXIA HV40 seems to be expensive, I think it will be worth it in the end.

Thanks Josh!

-Yodaman Jer

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JLMoondog
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Posted: 3rd Sep 2009 05:15
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Unfortunately you wont really find a cheaper HD camera with that kind of quality.

Not sure about ease of use when it comes to editing. Though most video editing programs I've looked into have HDV compatibility standard.

I'm looking into 'keying' and 3d composting with video, so I've been playing with AAE. Quit fun. I want to eventually do an indie film once I've learned the ropes. Looking at all the equipment needed for a low budget, it'll cost roughly $2000, which in my opinion is not bad.


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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 3rd Sep 2009 05:22
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Yeah, $2000 isn't bad at all, honestly.

I'm definitely more into video editing and filming more than game programming. It's pretty much why I don't code so much anymore...but anyway...

I'll have to wait a few months, but I hope to buy the HV40 before the end of this year. I plan to get a job soon, so that won't be a problem.

Do you know anything about external mics? I want to use one for the film I want to make so that I have better audio.

-Yodaman Jer

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2009 07:22 Edited at: 3rd Sep 2009 07:24
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You'll want a shotgun mic that you can plug into your camera. Unfortunately a good mic could cost more then your camera.

Though a good cheap mic that can give you nice sound is the Azden.

This seems to be another popular one:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/363083-REG/Rode_VIDEOMIC_VideoMic_Camera_Mounted.html

When you buy some shotgun mics, you'll have to buy a nice windsock to cut out noise outside your 'actors'. You can get a good one for about $50. Or some mics come with a blimp which are a helava lot better.

Then lastly a good boom pole with a decent cord.

Some things to remember:
-the longer the mic, the better
-the thicker the XLR cable, the better


Also, some mics don't have the right plug for your camera, so you'll have to get a converter...not a big deal, just a simple attachment.


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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 3rd Sep 2009 19:03
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Thanks Josh! That looks like a great mic. I already searched for boom poles and found a round-about way of making one for $15...plus the cost of an XLR cable and mic mount...hmm...

But either way, I'll definitely be getting a boom mic along with this camera. Thanks again!

-Yodaman Jer

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Yodaman Jer
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Posted: 3rd Sep 2009 19:31 Edited at: 3rd Sep 2009 19:31
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Alright, so I found some more resources on mics and wires, and I found this extension wire.



It's 15 feet long, which I think is pretty decent for a small boom mic. Now, in order to find it I had to Google 'headphone extension wire', so that link is for headphones, but I imagine it will work for microphones...right?

And I found this video (from the UK) on building your own boom mic for $30 USD, which is a lot better than $115 plus shipping & handling.

What do you guys think?

-Yodaman Jer

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