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DJ Almix
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I keep hearing people saying firefox is getting worse and worse, but they only use it because of the add-ons. I use it because I h8 IE and the addons, but I don't really see what's wrong with, can someone explain.

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For me it keeps locking up, just won't load a page, I have to shut it down and load it up again - this happens like 3 or 4 times a day.

Then it often hangs around in the background, stopping me from loading it again until I end the process.

And lastly, every couple of weeks it eats all my user settings for no reason.


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Firefox works fine with me. I love it. But I have never tried opera or chrome before, so I can't really say what's better.

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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 19:26
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Quote: "And lastly, every couple of weeks it eats all my user settings for no reason."

That's been happening to a friend of mine too. Really odd.

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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 19:27
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Ive tried it all,opera,firefox,ie,chrome and I am using Chrome right now.Its the fastest,doesnt lock up,only crashes sometimes at java stuff cause java isnt fully supported yet.

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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 19:32
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Chrome has support for extensions (AdBlock, weather, LastPass, etc.) and is super fast. I can leave Chrome running for days and the memory size will not grow. With Firefox if I have multiple tabs open and switch back and forth through various media portals (YouTube, podcasts, etc.) then the memory size can balloon past half a gig in short time. Chrome seems more elegant and appears to render the pages better than Firefox, as well. I was a hardcore Firefox'er since 2004 until about a month ago when I made the switch to Chrome.

The *only* think about Chrome that I dislike is there's no way to Open a file when you click the link. You have to download it, then open it. Kind of bizarre.


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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 19:35
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It is incredibly inefficient in design, and processor/ram usage. It eats up everything. That's why I love Chrome. Since each tab has its own process, when one tab crashes, the whole browser doesn't crash, which is nice.

Firefox is just clunky. Its one thing that happens when things get popular, they just beef up the features without optimization.

Just my opinion though.

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Jeku
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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 19:41
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Yah, Google is arguably the king of the web at the moment, so they have really fashioned Chrome into a fast, impressive piece of software. It doesn't feel like it was "design-by-committee" produced, something that I feel when I use IE and Firefox.


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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 19:50
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Firefox started to go wrong after 3.0.2 for me. It got slower, started thrashing hard drives for no good reason and the stability went out of the window, especially for Shockwave. I grew tired of it.

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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 20:23
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@Jeku:
Chrome supports AdBlock now? Yay!

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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 20:26
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Firefox stopped doing all sorts for me - loss of bookmarks, loss of user settings, some web pages didn't load and youtube didn't function properly. Instead of solving the problem, I just switched browser.

I love Firefox, but it appears to be getting buggier for some.

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David R
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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 20:52 Edited at: 21st Oct 2009 20:53
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Firefox stopped being fast, so I switched to Chrome. It also ate the battery time on my laptop, something which Chrome doesn't do. Chrome FTW

Caveat: Chrome on Mac seems to completely lack any method of organising bookmarks. No idea whether this feature is on Win/Linux, but that's the only minor snag for me

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Firefox is really slow, both loading pages and booting up. It would also crash about 2 or 3 times a day, so I switched.
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Rudolpho
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It just seems to buffer everything when browsing around, and never freeing any old memory.
I have to close it down every now and then to free the memory it consumes for no good reason (it goes above 1Gb if you leave it be for about a day). Once restarted, with all the same tabs, it only uses ~100Mb. Which is quite much also, but still...
Then, as others have stated, it crashes to and fro for weird reasons.

Still, I use it though.... maybe I should switch

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never liked firefox, looks really like 98 to me, and i like new themes
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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 22:22
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Quote: "For me it keeps locking up, just won't load a page, I have to shut it down and load it up again - this happens like 3 or 4 times a day.

Then it often hangs around in the background, stopping me from loading it again until I end the process."


Yeah me too... it gets annoying.

Never heard of google chrome i'll give it a try.
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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 22:26
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Quote: "For me it keeps locking up, just won't load a page, I have to shut it down and load it up again - this happens like 3 or 4 times a day."


It actually shuts down the internet for me after a while and I have to reboot about 2/3 times a day. I'm trying out Chrome and have a few questions for those using it.

1/. In FireFox I could assign a number of pages to open if I clicked the Home button but with Chrome I can only assign 1 page, can I assign others?

2/. Where do I access the addons? I can't see any menu/button for them?



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Happy Cheesecake
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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 23:18
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I've been a big Firefox fan for about a year now and I just downloaded and installed Chrome. I have to say, it's a lot better and I'm going to be using it from now on. Seems faster overall. Plus it looks good.

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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 23:37
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Quote: "For me it keeps locking up, just won't load a page, I have to shut it down and load it up again - this happens like 3 or 4 times a day."

Funny, but I switched to Firefox because IE8 was doing the same thing to me. I've been using Firefox on Windows 7 for about 6 months without a glitch.

Does chrome display pages properly - basically the same as IE and Firefox, or are there obvious differences?

Brian.

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Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 21st Oct 2009 23:55
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Well Firefox worked fine for me, but I tried Chrome, and it's faster so I'll keep it.

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Providing that for me that it took up more ram/cpu than Counter-Strike: Source, well, I think that says it all.

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Venge
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Posted: 22nd Oct 2009 00:05
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The only issue I've had with Chrome is that certain websites require IE for some reason, but I've only noticed that on the Realtek driver site and signing in to Windows Live (which I think has been fixed now).

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Posted: 22nd Oct 2009 00:33
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I've been having problems with CPU Usage with FF. It used to never eat up my computer but the past couple weeks it's been pretty bad.
So I downloaded Chrome and it seems a lot faster anyways so I've stuck with it.

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Mr Z
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I love Firefox, don´t have an issue with it.

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Quote: "Chrome supports AdBlock now? Yay!"


For all that want to install extensions in Chrome, you must follow these instructions first:

http://www.killertechtips.com/2009/05/13/download-sample-google-chrome-extensions/

There's a few steps you have to do first, but it's incredibly simple.


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OrzeL
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Quote: "never liked firefox, looks really like 98 to me, and i like new themes"


Just so you know there is something like themes for firefox its called
firefox personas.

http://www.getpersonas.com/
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Quote: "For all that want to install extensions in Chrome, you must follow these instructions first:

http://www.killertechtips.com/2009/05/13/download-sample-google-chrome-extensions/

There's a few steps you have to do first, but it's incredibly simple."
Thanks Jeku! I've been wondering how to add stuff!

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Thanks Jeku!
However, the AdBlock extension is not as good as the Firefox one, for some reason. I'll guess I have to wait a little bit longer before switching. But Google Chrome is shaping up!

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Posted: 22nd Oct 2009 16:51 Edited at: 22nd Oct 2009 18:25
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Hmm, I am use to Firefox but maybe I should switch to prevent anything happening.

[edit] Love Google Chrome!

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Chrome doesn't seem to work for me. It regularly fails to connect to certain websites (like Google!) and images rarely show up.

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Quote: "Chrome has support for extensions (AdBlock, weather, LastPass, etc.) and is super fast. I can leave Chrome running for days and the memory size will not grow. With Firefox if I have multiple tabs open and switch back and forth through various media portals (YouTube, podcasts, etc.) then the memory size can balloon past half a gig in short time. Chrome seems more elegant and appears to render the pages better than Firefox, as well. I was a hardcore Firefox'er since 2004 until about a month ago when I made the switch to Chrome."


Because of this I'm now a Chrome user... it is a lot faster and overall better looking. Using the link you posted on getting the extensions working Adblock works really well too. I just had to learn to use Alt-W to block all similar ads instead of Alt-B that'll only block on that specific page.

Thanks Jeku!

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Unfortunately, the computer I have Chrome installed on is slow, so I can't give that high of a review for it; all internet browsers are slow as heck on this computer, which sucks. I'd install Chrome on the fast computer, but we don't have any spare hard drive space.

I do like Chrome just for its simpler interface though. A lot less clunky! The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't have a search bar, you have to open up a new tab to use Google (I just leave the first tab open for Google). I kind of hope they fix that, but it's a small gripe and won't stop me from using it.

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Quote: "The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't have a search bar, you have to open up a new tab to use Google"


The address bar is also the search bar just put what your searching for in the address bar and it automatically google searches what you need.
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Quote: "all internet browsers are slow as heck on this computer, which sucks"


Have you tried Opera? I'm using it on an ancient PC at the moment while mine is in for repairs, and it seems less resource-intensive than either. The interface is pretty nice too.
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Yodaman Jer
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Tried it on my other computer and liked it a lot, I'll probably install it on this machine. Opera+Chrome = Excellent web browsing experience.

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Pincho Paxton
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Well Chrome does have a problem with the search engine on here. The back button after search is completely lost. You have to type your search again.

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Its not on mine

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Type vectors in search. Then look at one of the threads, then click back. The list of threads has gone. Firefox would resend it. But my search box was erased as well during my last attempt. It depends what page you were last on.

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Firefox does go into the background some times but i like it.

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Quote: "In FireFox I could assign a number of pages to open if I clicked the Home button but with Chrome I can only assign 1 page, can I assign others?"


As far as I know, you can't. However, my recommendation is to put the tabs that would open on the "new tab" page, then make the new tab page your home page, and just scroll-wheel click them all. Only takes a few seconds.

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Firefox just doesn't fail for me. In any way.

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I take back what I said about Chrome not being so speedy on this PC. I cleaned up the hard drive a bit, did a defrag, and now it runs VERY fast. I really like it.

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Have you ever tried Chrome? It runs different parts of the browser in separate processes so it doesn't risk crashing or locking up like FireFox and IE does.
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I'm generally an Opera fan, but I mainly use Firefox simply because it has some of the best addons that allow me to debug websites and such and check sites for validation.

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But mine doesn't.

And I'm not using Chrome full-time until it's fully supported as a browser, like firefox or IE.

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Quote: "until it's fully supported as a browser, like firefox or IE."


Chrome is a full browser at the moment.


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I use Safari, its visually more impressive, and has a cool 3D top sites and history features which look like they where taken from itunes.

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Quote: "Chrome is a full browser at the moment."


False. Chrome lacks majorly in the JavaScript and expansion area. It's developing slowly, but it's a sin to claim it's a "full browser".

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Quote: "False. Chrome lacks majorly in the JavaScript and expansion area. It's developing slowly, but it's a sin to claim it's a "full browser"."


Not that I don't believe you, but do you have any proof to back that up? I work in web development and have found, through no controlled experimentation but general use, that Chrome handles JavaScript better than IE and Firefox. I work with the Dev branch of Chrome, which is currently at version 4.0.223.11, which is hardly a beta. Of course I do switch between the four major browsers when testing, but Chrome handles the intensive pages best in my personal opinion. Also the browser handles the major Google sites without a hitch, and they are arguably the kings of JavaScript.


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I am a web developer too, and though Chrome is GREAT at handling JavaScript, it has yet to handle more advanced things to the full potential such as a combination of AJAX and JavaScript. I think honestly the most developed in the JavaScript area would have to be Firefox, and for rendering Opera (a little too picky sometimes). As for Internet Explorer...let's not go there.

I notice when using Chrome for JavaScript intense sites, it tends to bug out or go slower.

Of course, I only use Chrome now for Google Wave (I was one of the first ones to be part of the developer preview, no lies, I have proof if needed.). It works well with that (naturally).

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