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Geek Culture / Soooo, incase anybody was going to buy Assassin's Creed 2 on PC.

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David R
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Posted: 12th Mar 2010 09:38
Also, as far as the law is concerned (in most countries) ripping is equivalent to owning it and just d/loading it from elsewhere (as per the mp3/avi example) so either way they consider it infringement

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Jeku
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Posted: 12th Mar 2010 19:23
Quote: "Morally it's OK though. I doubt the guy who made the software would even care anyway."


Are you serious? Most software you buy states that you can't make copies of it.


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lazerus
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Posted: 12th Mar 2010 20:02
Quote: "Morally it's OK though. I doubt the guy who made the software would even care anyway."


yeah thats where i was comming from, you have paid to support them and your still only using one copy and you have one license, s it balances itself in my head.

Uncle Sam
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Posted: 12th Mar 2010 21:09
Quote: "PC gamers pay much more to get their 'console', usually three grand at least, and console gamers pay three hundred. So we just suck harder for paying more?"


Who on earth spends three grand to get a high end gaming machine? Maybe if you pour all the money into worthless accessories that overpriced because they come with the system. Build it yourself and literally save thousands.

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Posted: 12th Mar 2010 22:37
My 'high end gaming system' cost me £500... and I consider the £200 worth all the non gaming functions I get. So yeah, £3000 is way too much.

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Toasty Fresh
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Posted: 12th Mar 2010 23:51
Quote: "Are you serious? Most software you buy states that you can't make copies of it."


I am serious. But if you went to the guy who, I dunno, wrote the story of Mass Effect 2, and told him that you bought a copy of ME2, then torrented it, I totally doubt he would give a crap. I wouldn't.

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Posted: 13th Mar 2010 00:13
Quote: "That's not legally the case. Similarly if you buy a CD or DVD you can't technically download its MP3s or AVI files. "


this, is to be honest wrong, it is soo wrong.

it is like, if my DvD is broke, why cant i frikkin download a new one and use the same CD key as i used? i shouldnt be PUNISHED for breaking my CD.


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Jeku
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Posted: 13th Mar 2010 00:31
Quote: "But if you went to the guy who, I dunno, wrote the story of Mass Effect 2, and told him that you bought a copy of ME2, then torrented it, I totally doubt he would give a crap. I wouldn't."


I doubt he'd care too, but I'm talking technical legalities.


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Posted: 13th Mar 2010 08:37
Perhaps as a suggestion to businesses, perhaps offer downloadable versions to registered customers? Perhaps charge only a small fee for the trouble, so those who break their disks or destroy their copies somehow, there's a service available - better paying £1 for the download than £30 for another copy. This might mean a decrease in pirating.

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Then again I do notice a few immediate problems, what if you sold your copy after getting the downloaded version? Would it then destroy second hand products? Maybe there's a better solution?


Also, just as a point, if the authorities catch you with an illegal download, how do they know that you're not going to distribute it? Consider, illegal versions can be transferred to anybody without having to purchase a copy. How can anybody be entirely sure your reason for downloading is simply as a back up?

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Posted: 13th Mar 2010 09:34
Quote: "Perhaps as a suggestion to businesses, perhaps offer downloadable versions to registered customers? Perhaps charge only a small fee for the trouble, so those who break their disks or destroy their copies somehow, there's a service available - better paying £1 for the download than £30 for another copy. This might mean a decrease in pirating."


I've bought a few DVDs which come with such a solution. I've also seen various movies now available on USB drives in the shops.

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Benjamin
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Posted: 13th Mar 2010 18:04
Quote: "Are you serious? Most software you buy states that you can't make copies of it."


I agree that morally it's fine. Why shouldn't it be? As long as you're not sharing copies with other people it doesn't affect anyone.
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Posted: 15th Mar 2010 22:46
Speaking of cross-platform...

Universe at War anyone?

Sure, I hate DRM as much as everyone else but surely theres a work around? Cant you reverse engineer the DRM system and tweak it to allow the game to work independently? I mean... you've already paid the £39.99 for the game so why should you be forced to pay it monthly out of your broadband subscription?


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Posted: 16th Mar 2010 00:35
Quote: "Sure, I hate DRM as much as everyone else but surely theres a work around? Cant you reverse engineer the DRM system and tweak it to allow the game to work independently?"


Most games specify that you can't attempt to reverse engineer any part of it.

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