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Johnski
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Posted: 26th Jul 2010 23:15
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Here is something i AM good at please tell me what you think:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2044501&id=1362825520&l=b19d0c6459

sorry they are in a link but it would take forever if i put them in imageshack but enjoy.

Oh and feedback please

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Shaun Of The Dead
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Posted: 26th Jul 2010 23:36
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IMHO, the photography isnt great.

Some of the images are blurred (the bike ones) and it makes it look sloppy and unfinished, aswell as some of the images which had un-needed people in.

I think that photography of people is very different to environmental photograph. Its not as easy as just picking up a camera and taking photo's, the setting must be right and must be setup to make the environment look more professional aswell.

I suggest taking photos of anything other than the environment. This is my friends photography album on FB. It looks very professional, and it is all environmental. Try that first before moving onto people

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Posted: 26th Jul 2010 23:38 Edited at: 26th Jul 2010 23:40
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thank you shaun of the dead

what do you think for a first timer. it is also meant to be action photography so it will be blury (the background anyway)

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Posted: 26th Jul 2010 23:41
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Its alright. I suggest trying to get lighting right, photography doesnt look particularly good without the right lighing. Try taking your next photo's when its dusk or dawn to try and get some cool colours in on the pictures or try black and white.

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Posted: 26th Jul 2010 23:44
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awesome. thank yiu for your constructive comments

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Posted: 27th Jul 2010 01:22
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Heres some of my work, its all simple stuff, but this was me just worming up because I haven't used a camera in a long while.

I also have pictures of the people I hang around with but I'm very sure they wouldn't want me to put those on the net.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php?aid=2071631&id=1167636909&ref=mf

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wow they are realy good slayer! well done! what camera do you use?

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hey look into HDR photography, it makes your images look really good also if you want the pictures to look great, i sugest investing in a good camera around 300-500 bucks i reccoment some canon rebel or a nickon D80 or D90. some lenses, a tripod and a remote control (for long exposure/ hdr so you can set the camera without toching it so you wont mess up the shot) to be a good photographer you need to start with good equipment, the rest youll learn along the way.

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btw if you want to be an ation photographer a nikkon D90 is a good choice because it has one of the quickest shooting for the price if i remember correctly about 4 shots/second. Also look into bracketing

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I have a Kodak Easyshare V1273 HD it costed me £300

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You think that's expensive... I paid almost 3000$ for a Nikon D700.but the quality you'll get is superb.and there's no bluring in movement

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ok that wont do. thats not a professional camera. a professional camera is something big with a big lens aka an SLR camera. something like this

I reccomend taking either a nikkon D series or a canon rebel series. Dont bother with other stuff like sony cameras or panasonic or stuff. The plus for these cameras is there are different lenses for any type of picture you want, Be it a frigging telescope or a microscope lens) you can also equip lenses with different filters which can give you certain cool effects, some photographers who hate HDR (personally i love it) like using the filters instead of practicing HDR. also longer battery life, better quality videos, manual control over focus exposure or ISO, Good SLR cameras get less noise on higer ISO pictures which is good for high speed photography, The colors of the picture are very accurate and true to life, loads of features and powerful hardware specs.

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Posted: 27th Jul 2010 06:20
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Quote: "wow they are realy good slayer! well done! what camera do you use?"
Thanks!

^ hahaa im using that Camera, the Canon XTi(cost me like 1,000) back like in 2006... I want to later down the road get a regular camera,
the kind were you have to have a Red Room... I always wanted a Red Room, it would be fun taking and making your own pictures.(and not only that, it kind of makes you fill you need to take perfect pictures because your limited to a roll of film and not digital as to were you could delete and retake pictures)


Also "syko games" you should take pictures with some motivation!
I took my pictures because a Girl liked bugs, flowers, green grass.
So I found things close to her liking around were I live and went at it.

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Posted: 27th Jul 2010 06:36 Edited at: 27th Jul 2010 06:39
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Whats crazy in life is how things come together and you use those things that come natural to get done what needs to get done.

I have some Green Things I took pictures of that were in my back yard were I live. God I love the color Green, for some reason some months ago like 5 or 7 months, I just had started liking the color.


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I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but these could use some color correction as well.

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@Inspire, Whats the best way to bring the color out of rocks, hahahaa?

I think he needs to put color in there some were, not just take shots were hes on top the action or under the action but a blend of all and get some background color in there, I like to do a (front)1,(Mid)2,(Back)3... think of all three things when talking a picture and things will look nicer, also find something in the picture that is straight and line the edge on the inside of your lens with that straight line and take the picture, it gives the viewer a balance.

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I also recently bought a new camera,a Kodak Z981,14 megapixels,28x optical zoom,26-676mm lens. Made some wicked pictures,one is attached.


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Posted: 27th Jul 2010 10:27 Edited at: 27th Jul 2010 10:35
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Dam nice! those trees are bad ass.. and crazy water fall, cool.


May I suggest something, line the bottom of the image with the horizontal bottom of the water fall, I have OCD so i'm a nut when it comes to lines and angles and I was just suggesting. it would make it look nicer...

ow and no sh*t I had that camera you have! that was my first camera.
What happened to it was it had something on the lens and every picture started to having a blob on about 8 pixs. So I got the XTi because it had a thing in the lens that would shake and nock off everything from the light capturing thing, that little square thing, but yah your camera is a cool camera, I have a lens macro that can take pictures of bugs and sh*t, but now I cant use it because my new camera doesn't support it.

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Quote: "those trees are bad ass.. "

Haven't heard that in a long time...

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If your looking for a cheap camera, then one option is just to buy a broken one on eBay, I bought a Fujifilm finepix s5800 with a broken LCD for about 1/3rd what it would cost working (about £30 I think), added £8 for a replacement screen, and it works perfect. The cameras great but cheap, has an awesome zoom, clear pictures - will post a few later.
It's no SLR, but it's the best digi camera I've ever used.


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Posted: 27th Jul 2010 11:31 Edited at: 27th Jul 2010 22:33
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look int CHDK btw its only for certain canon cameras tho but it gives you direct control over the hardware. you can even make and download custom scripts for it you can take HDR long exposure, and lots of other stuff there is a script for taking pics of lightning. its not as good as regular SLR cameras in terms of hardware but it gives you great functionality that regular camers dont get

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Thank you for your comments

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I finally got a new charger for my Nikon (my old one is floating around a casino somewhere in PA since January), but now I can start taking pics again. It's not an SLR but it takes great landscape pics in the sun.

Your photos seem to be just random shots. The subject doesn't really grab my focus, nor is he centered in the frame. The pictures look fine to me if you're just showing what you guys did that day, but I wouldn't call them professional.


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Quote: "Here is something i AM good at please tell me what you think:"


To me they look like point and click shots, no where close to professional. You can't just pick up a camera and instantly become a professional photographer, every skill takes time to master, there are no short cuts, not until they invent "nano chip brain implants"

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I LOVE PHOTOGRAPHY, and this is good. I would be a photographer, in fact I'm considering it, but I don't have the money to buy a camera thats not a cheap digital camera.

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oh i see maybe i shouldnt have posted here just yet what shall i do now

can a mod please delete all trace of this tread please

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They are alright. But you should never cut off a piece of someone unless the picture is about something else, like a skateboard, or it is from the waist up.

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And why delete the thread you are getting tips to help you out?

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Sometimes you need a real good kick in the a$$ to get you in the right direction! I mean I suck, i'm not all that good but I get better over time as all people do, no one just knows what to do, it takes time and if someone tells you otherwise then they're dumb


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some people say its not about how good your camera is its about your skill or the essence of pictures.... no its pretty much all about how good your camera is.

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no... how can that be... well think if syko games had a good camera and he took the same pictures... you think those same picture would come out better because of the camera used???

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yes

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hahahaha No... theres many things to conceder when taking a picture.

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Posted: 28th Jul 2010 11:38 Edited at: 28th Jul 2010 11:39
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but in the end any dslr piture comes out looking better considering you know how to properly use a dslr camera

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For the same composition, subject, and lighting, a better camera = a better picture. Otherwise better cameras wouldn't exist. I was playing with a high-end Sony DSLR at Target today, and it was very hard to take a bad photo with it.

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Turn the ISO all the way up shake the camera as hard as you can, set exposure to one second and you will get a horrible picture with an slr camera

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PAGAN, so you are saying, if I take e picture of my floor, it's not good. If I get a bit better camera, take a picture of the exact same spot, it would be a good image? I take a pictureo f a floor with a decent camere, not a good picture, I take the same pic with a good camera, good picture? Let me say that again: I take picture of the floor with a bad camera, bad, if I take the picture with a good camera, good image? Just... floor+decent camera=bad, floor+good camera=good? Wnat to hear that again? Doesen't make much sense to me... and Syko's camera seems quite good, so... Better camera helps, but it's not like: "I once got a not-so-good camera, I sucked at photography, now I got a good camera, and I take same pictures, I'm a pro now." And still... floor+, bad camera, oh you know what I am trying to say.

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The thing with digi cameras is that there's a huge step between them, they go from meh, to waheh! in the space of a hundred bucks.
It's not about megapixels, it's about the quality of the lens and digitising process.
If you take a picture of your floor with an SLR, then it'll be sharp and clear, well defined, but most cheaper cameras will mangle that floor - it'll be a weird focus, colours will be washed out, but you only see this when comparing cameras.

If someone wants to take great photo's, then they need a good camera - it's really not an option to just be good at photography, because a cheap camera will never be able to produce photo's good enough. I mean, my camera as I said is not an SLR, it's kinda like a gap camera, it's older, but it would do a much better job than your camera I think - and it's not because I'm a good photographer. Once you have a good camera that can focus well, and has good colour balance, then those will at least be an option - with a good camera, any bad photo is down to the photographer, with a crud camera, your basically doomed from the start. I don't think you'll be able to do much better with the camera you have, and I'm sure you can get a lot better. I mean, you spent £300 on a camera, and sorry mate but my £50 second hand camera kicks it into touch. Maybe you should have a look on eBay, get an older camera so you get quality, not 'HD', or easy sharing (yeah like anyone with any knowledge ever needed that). For your £300 you could have gotten, for example:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nikon-D40-Digital-Camera-18-55mm-lens-/310236968621?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN&hash=item483b9076ad

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A high end camera is of course going to take a better photograph than a low end model, but it does not mean the photo you have taken is "good". It could have all the detail in the world, but be completely bland and boring to look at. You have to take into account depth of field, lighting, shadows etc.

Anyone can take a photograph, but is it of artistic excellence? In some of your cases, probably not. So stop kidding yourselves into thinking a high end camera is going to take excellent images for you with little effort from you.

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Im stuck with a £80 point-and-shoot type camera at the moment, which just pushes me to take better photos really, so I try to make up for the cameras faults

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I know I overse-something'd (don't still know how the hell you write it), but you get what I mean. Do you Van? Do you?

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Not really - overspend?, over-egged?, overstate?, something like that?

Anyhoo, I want to clarify, that a good camera will not automatically make you a better photographer, but it will give you the scope to improve, it'll be possible to take well focussed and defined photo's, which is real difficult with those cruddy little lenses compact cameras have. It's also pretty cool to use a big, chunky camera that you can hold still and control, rather than standing with your camera 2 feet from your face, above your head - I prefer to use a viewfinder, arms close into chest, nice and steady.

I think I overegged, overstated, and overspent on this post as well

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Quote: "Anyhoo, I want to clarify, that a good camera will not automatically make you a better photographer"

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Quote: "but it will give you the scope to improve"

another word... well sentences, but whatever.

And I ment over-egged, obviously.

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Quote: "PAGAN, so you are saying, if I take e picture of my floor, it's not good. If I get a bit better camera, take a picture of the exact same spot, it would be a good image? I take a pictureo f a floor with a decent camere, not a good picture, I take the same pic with a good camera, good picture? Let me say that again: I take picture of the floor with a bad camera, bad, if I take the picture with a good camera, good image? Just... floor+decent camera=bad, floor+good camera=good? Wnat to hear that again? Doesen't make much sense to me... and Syko's camera seems quite good, so... Better camera helps, but it's not like: "I once got a not-so-good camera, I sucked at photography, now I got a good camera, and I take same pictures, I'm a pro now." And still... floor+, bad camera, oh you know what I am trying to say.
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Thats exactly what i am saying Altho its a waste of a camera to take pictures of floors but yes your floor will look better when shot by a good expensive camera than a regular one. You can even use a Macro lens to get more detail of that floor and the colors will be very good.

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Well, take a picture of a floor with any camera, I doubt people will find it interesting...

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you need to have one damn interesting floor for that

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Well, unless it's something like that, then I'm not interested.

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but it would look more interested if the image looked "clean" and good, istead of washed out and almost untellable right?


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Me as a welder knows that you could weld with any welder(some people cant weld based on the welding machine) but a welder can quickly learn how to use any machine... who would be a better welder, the guy who has to use a certain machine or the guy who can learn any machine?

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Quote: "Me as a welder knows that you could weld with any welder(some people cant weld based on the welding machine) but a welder can quickly learn how to use any machine... who would be a better welder, the guy who has to use a certain machine or the guy who can learn any machine?"


That analogy doesn't work here. I could say I was a good scientist, and I could do the same job with a standard optical microscope as I could an electron microscope, which is obviously nonsense.

Some trades allow you to use more basic tools and still do a proper job but some don't, especially the ones which require you to capture information (like photography).

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a shot of floor would look really cool with a macro lens

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