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Geek Culture / Who here is an "old" person? (3+ years here) and why'd you join?

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Phaelax
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Posted: 18th Sep 2010 21:40
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Quote: "9117 Forum Messages
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Assuming you took a mere 20 seconds to write each message, you've spent 50.65 hours (2.11 days) posting to this forum.
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Didn't think I've created that many threads.


"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" ~ Arthur C. Clarke
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CoffeeGrunt
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Posted: 19th Sep 2010 15:21
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I understand the binary system, just not why it's relevant anymore when there are other methods of programming that are easier...

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It's been a good three years.
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Green Gandalf
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Posted: 19th Sep 2010 16:35
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Quote: "just not why it's relevant anymore when there are other methods of programming that are easier"


Oh dear.
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Ocho Geek
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Posted: 19th Sep 2010 17:24
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indeed,

there's a sort of hierarchy for coding language, each is based on the previous (apart from Hex, which was replaced with assembly code)

Binary
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Hexadecimal
Assembly Code
^
High level language

now theres more detail than that, but all you need to know is that when you're coding in DBPro, you're code is translated to the code DBPro was made in (was it C++?) then its translated into assembly code, which is converted into Binary

In short, Coding is Binary for idiots, and we're all idiots, computers are clever

Ocho Geek - Pretending to be a useful contribution to the forums since 2005
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Zeus
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Posted: 19th Sep 2010 17:40
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Quote: "To date you have posted:

3090 Forum Messages
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Assuming you took a mere 20 seconds to write each message, you've spent 17.17 hours (0.72 days) posting to this forum.

Must... get... life..."


Woah.
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Kevin Picone
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Posted: 19th Sep 2010 22:55 Edited at: 19th Sep 2010 22:58
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Quote: "I understand the binary system, just not why it's relevant anymore when there are other methods of programming that are easier..."


They're not talking about the numbering system, but rather Machine Code. The relevance is just as important today as it was back in the 1980's, the better one understands how things are implemented (under the hood), the better one can construct more efficient solutions at low or high level.


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The Slayer
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Posted: 19th Sep 2010 23:35
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Quote: "The IT people know NOTHING about computers, outside Microsoft Office. If you're caught doing something other than the many exciting features of Excel, instant ban."

You may not realise it, but Excel is an excellent way of testing your analytic skills. That's why a lot (if not all) IT courses require a basic (or better) knowledge of Excel (and Access). At least, that's the minimum requirement here in Belgium.

Quote: "we're all idiots, computers are clever"

Hum, I think it is still the other way around (and that is for the better). Computers do nothing on their own. They still do what we tell (code) them to do. If we code something bad, it is not the computer who is smarter. That's just us demanding (coding) something the computer can't do. Maybe someday computers will have a sence of their own, no longer needing us to tell them what to do. But I honestly hope that never happens.

Cheers

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Green Gandalf
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Posted: 19th Sep 2010 23:41
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Quote: "You may not realise it, but Excel is an excellent way of testing your analytic skills. That's why a lot (if not all) IT courses require a basic (or better) knowledge of Excel (and Access)."


I use it a lot when I'm writing programs - or even working with Texture Maker. It's a quick and powerful calculator - ideal if you want to test a function for some reason or other.
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Indicium
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Posted: 20th Sep 2010 02:05
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Quote: "But I honestly hope that never happens."


Me too... A virus patching itself... *shudders*

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Image All
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Posted: 20th Sep 2010 03:42
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i joined because i knew being part of a community would help me be better at programming.

Quote: " 1651 Forum Messages
175 Forum Threads

Assuming you took a mere 20 seconds to write each message, you've spent 9.17 hours (0.38 days) posting to this forum. "


lulz

i'll have to go through some of my old threads and find some stupid ones to laugh at.


Remember those old guys? They made epic renders, I think one of them was called DaVinci, and all they used was MS Paint. Sometimes it's just skill....
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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 20th Sep 2010 03:50
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Yes. Yes you should.

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Insanity Complex
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Posted: 20th Sep 2010 06:22
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Quote: "i'll have to go through some of my old threads and find some stupid ones to laugh at."


Some of my old threads make me either really ashamed of myself...or really proud of myself for having the retrospect to be ashamed of how I presented myself back then o.O

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Van B
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Posted: 20th Sep 2010 12:35
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Quote: "The IT people know NOTHING about computers, outside Microsoft Office. If you're caught doing something other than the many exciting features of Excel, instant ban."


Have you ever read a job advertisement for an IT person - I can guarantee that any IT support job will have Microsoft Office experience as a requirement. Some people make a career out of just Excel training. These days, there is little that an IT support guy needs to know besides Office.

Health, Ammo, and bacon and eggs!
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uzi idiot
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Posted: 20th Sep 2010 21:10 Edited at: 20th Sep 2010 21:11
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Quote: "The IT people know NOTHING about computers, outside Microsoft Office. If you're caught doing something other than the many exciting features of Excel, instant ban."


same here, my ict teacher hates me because I was playing DOOM in lesson when I was done, all we do is spreadsheets, it's SO boring.

good frame rates matter...
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Ocho Geek
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Posted: 20th Sep 2010 21:48
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endure your school years like everybody else has to

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CoffeeGrunt
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Posted: 20th Sep 2010 22:39
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I got told off and marked down because I made elements of my site in Fireworks rather than just Googling images...

Apparently proving I could Google an image, right-click and save as showed me to be more adept at general IT than actually making a (quite poor by some of your standards) attempt it myself...

She didn't take it too well when I put this point to her...I'm glad I haven't built a career on IT to be honest...

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 20th Sep 2010 22:53
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Also point out copyright issues involving using google images. A person who's hiring you to work on a website will want to make sure you're using images they have rights to use. So you'd either have to supply the images yourself, access a commercial royalty free image database or pay for them. In the real world outside of school, what your teacher was telling you to do would have potentially caused copyright issues.

Even my second year 'Hypertext Narrative' tutor at Uni had the sense to say, "either make the images yourself or make sure you have permission to use the images you do find". So, naturally, I made my own. He didn't seem to know what he was doing most of the time anyway, he marked me down because he thought I was trying to be shocking but what I did came off as silly...proving he didn't listen to my presentation or pay attention to any of my work, because it was supposed to be silly (for humour) and I made no secret of it, if that's what he got, then it served its purpose!

I hear one of the second years this time round made his as an insult to the teaching abilities of the same tutor...and still passed.

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Green Gandalf
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Posted: 20th Sep 2010 23:27
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Quote: "Apparently proving I could Google an image, right-click and save as showed me to be more adept at general IT than actually making a (quite poor by some of your standards) attempt it myself"


Er, no. More likely it showed that you could read and follow simple instructions. If you can't do that you're probably going to be a useless employee.
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Ocho Geek
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Posted: 20th Sep 2010 23:47
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yes, if you're going to spend your life being a general IT slave you'll be expected to obey correctly...

...I meant worker

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