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Geek Culture / [LOCKED] Want to build my own gaming rig... Need help

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kitty101
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Posted: 31st Oct 2010 08:38
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Quote: "And should I mention Intel doesn't have true quad core CPU?"


Are you dumb?


Quote: "The stupidest thing of all to do is buy last year technology,Intel is moving on new sockets 1155 and 2011 so it's obviously much better to buy an AM3 platform as AMD is not planning to change the socket in the next 2 years except a new one for their new processors with integrated graphics."


Bulldozer/Bobcat, you just proved yourself wrong. Also intel doesn't actually change their sockets often, 775 -> 1156 -> 1336.

Quote: "Actually the new AMD processors will be compatible with AM3,the standard ones,but the Bulldozers with integrated ATI graphics will use the new socket.
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No they aren't.

Quote: "This is true. Wow I didn't think this thread would get this many post... Thanks guys!
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Just use the build I made a page or two back.

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charger bandit
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Posted: 31st Oct 2010 10:08 Edited at: 1st Nov 2010 05:24
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Pffft you calling me dumb and you don\'t know MODEDIT Mods,there is no other word for this,sorry. Intel only glues together two dual core processors to form a quad core,sorry to burst your bubble.

Intel doesn\'t change sockets often,blah blah... BS. In the past year or two they made 1156 and 1336,now 1155 and 2011,like WTF who is going to change the motherboard all the time,I guess you....

Just stop it,AMD is as good as Intel,you are just another Intel fanboy.

I made a very cool and cheap combo on Newegg,it's insane how much cheaper parts are there,in my country just the CPU would cost 150 euros.


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Melancholic
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Posted: 31st Oct 2010 11:27
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Quote: "Bulldozer/Bobcat, you just proved yourself wrong. Also intel doesn't actually change their sockets often, 775 -> 1156 -> 1336."


Look at my replies to Charger Bandit, I proved that AM3 is not compatible with AM3+. But also not how i did it in a civilized way instead of calling him stupid.

Quote: "Just use the build I made a page or two back."


Maybe its just me but that post seemed a little elitist. Do not tell someone what to do with their money, and if I'm honest that build really should be AMD, the cheep Phenom x4's will outperform a base quad i5. With a gtx 480 in there you'd also defiantly going to bottleneck at the processor. In my opinion it is better to wait at the moment.

@Charger Bandit, i suggest also getting a case in there but more importantly i would go for at least a phenom 955 for the unlocked multiplier, AMD's all about the overclocking!


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Eminent
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Posted: 31st Oct 2010 18:09
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Quote: "Quote: "And should I mention Intel doesn't have true quad core CPU?"

Are you dumb?"


Wow. Almost everyone knows that Intel sticks two dual cores together with crazy glue(kidding about that part) and calls it a quad.


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Master Man Of Justice
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Posted: 31st Oct 2010 18:57
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lol. This thread had a hint of flame all the way through it, now it just had an esplosion.

I think this thread is concluded.

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lazerus
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Posted: 31st Oct 2010 19:21
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Quote: "Not in video games, most don't even use 2+ cores."


Just to clarify, i meant rendering as in game development. The extra two cores do indeed help a whole lot in this area and have saved a good couple hundred hours in build times.

Kitty, you'd start a whole lot less flame and aggression if you stopped tearing posts sentence by sentence apart, then giving one or two word jibs at them. People are indeed imperfect and can make mistakes, bad wording, misinformation and alike are common. You took it personally for some odd reason after you were mis-informed, then corrected at the start of the topic. From there on you seemed to have been fighting to get back at people who have corrected you. Im not surprised at Bandits reactions or that of other people.

Even my post which only vouched for performance, you critised. Which i still dont get how/why.

If your feeling wronged then back your view up with information from valid sources. Not just, because i say so.

Its became the equvilent of two girls hissing fitting over nail varnish. If there both well known, they must rivial each other, otherwise one company wouldnt be in the market. So they ethier match or beat the compettior, ethier now or the near future. Amd have produced some very affordable couter parts to the intel ranges. You seem to think that power is the only consideration, when cost to power, to future proofing is a lot more feasable way to look at it.

Now do calm down people. Im in a good mood for now.


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Posted: 31st Oct 2010 23:03
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Quote: "lol. This thread had a hint of flame all the way through it, now it just had an esplosion.

I think this thread is concluded."


Yes... I got what I needed and thanks. I didn't know it will almost turn into a flame war. Sorry.

Can a mod please lock this thread?

"It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me" -Batman Begins
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kitty101
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Posted: 1st Nov 2010 04:13
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Quote: "Wow. Almost everyone knows that Intel sticks two dual cores together with crazy glue(kidding about that part) and calls it a quad.
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Oh, then how did they manage a 6 core CPU on 32nm? God you people are retarded.

Quote: "Intel doesn\'t change sockets often,blah blah... BS. In the past year or two they made 1156 and 1336,now 1155 and 2011,like WTF who is going to change the motherboard all the time,I guess you....
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1155 is for sandbrigde, bulldozer will be using am3+, you just shot yourself in the foot.

oh and 2011 is for workstations and dual cpu socket systems, tl;dr commercial/industrial uses.

Quote: "Just stop it,AMD is as good as Intel,you are just another Intel fanboy.
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It isn't really, its for budget systems, 1000-1100 dollars isn't budget.

Quote: "Maybe its just me but that post seemed a little elitist. Do not tell someone what to do with their money, and if I'm honest that build really should be AMD, the cheep Phenom x4's will outperform a base quad i5. With a gtx 480 in there you'd also defiantly going to bottleneck at the processor. In my opinion it is better to wait at the moment."


A quad core i5 would outperform a Phenom II x4, its about the same money.

Quote: "I made a very cool and cheap combo on Newegg,it's insane how much cheaper parts are there,in my country just the CPU would cost 150 euros.
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650w psu, overkill. Do you even know anything about hardware?

Quote: "@Charger Bandit, i suggest also getting a case in there but more importantly i would go for at least a phenom 955 for the unlocked multiplier, AMD's all about the overclocking!
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I rather overclock an Intel CPU since they run cooler and are more efficient at lower clocks.

Quote: "Pffft you calling me dumb and you don\'t know SH!T! Mods,there is no other word for this,sorry. Intel only glues together two dual core processors to form a quad core,sorry to burst your bubble.
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Talking into the miror, face the truth and facts.

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Eminent
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http://www.brighthub.com/computing/hardware/articles/64735.aspx
Don't go calling people retards without doing research.


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Benjamin
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Calling someone 'dumb' or 'retarded' because you think they are wrong is just nasty and immature.
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kitty101
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Posted: 1st Nov 2010 04:44
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Quote: "http://www.brighthub.com/computing/hardware/articles/64735.aspx
Don't go calling people retards without doing research."


Thats comparing Qxxxx series with AMD's Phenom/Athlon II series.

You would get neither now a days, I also love how AMD's advertisements against Intel actually work on people. Its because of when the Athlon x2 was released Intel slammed two P4's together and said "Dual Core"

The article also states if you are in the AMD price range, use their proccesors. (750 - 1000$) a good budget Intel budget is 1000$ - 2000$
however enthusiast budgets such as 2000$ - 3000$ should always choose Intel.

Intel has, and always will have the best CPU's on the market performance wise.

Quote: "Calling someone 'dumb' or 'retarded' because you think they are wrong is just nasty and immature.
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I didn't

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Posted: 1st Nov 2010 04:53
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Quote: "Oh, then how did they manage a 6 core CPU on 32nm? God you people are retarded."
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Oh and, Intel also can compete very easily with AMD. Considering the following.

Intel Core i5, Clarkdale, 3.2GHz: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116369&cm_re=intel_core_i5-_-19-116-369-_-Product

AMD Phenom II X4 97 Deneb 3.5GHz:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103894&cm_re=amd_phenom_ii_x4-_-19-103-894-_-Product

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