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zzz
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Posted: 21st Apr 2011 01:54
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Quote: "turns outu need to pay for Co-op skins and such,"

Luckily, you don't need to buy the skins at all!


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Quote: "So I'm told, all of the skins are available via achievments anyway"

I certanly hope so, otherwise it would be kind of a turn down =P


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Quote: "Are there still challenge versions, like there were in the original?"

I haven't even looked lol. I turned it on, hit single player and started rollin through the levels. Only had about two hours to play so i didn't check everything out.

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Got the game today in the post and I've completed the whole game in around 11 hours (including co-op).

Around 6 hours for the campaign and 5 hours for the co-op. Despite it being short, it was epic! Soooo much better than the first game. Everything just felt much more epic and dynamic it was enjoyable to play.
I can't wait to give it another play through because it was quite the experience.

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I got it on Tuesday, finished it Wednesday night. The single player was awesome. Couldn't be better, well it could be longer .

Now I've started the playing co-op with my girlfriend. So far it's quite fun.

Quote: "Are there still challenge versions, like there were in the original?"

I had a quick look and couldn't find them.


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A friend is letting me play before I buy tomorrow. Despite the good reviews, I'm not sure if it's worth the price yet. We'll see.

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Posted: 21st Apr 2011 08:10
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I take back everything I said about Portal 2 being not as good as the first. I just stopped playing RIGHT before all of the awesome maps. I love it. I love it. I love it.

Spoiler? I guess.


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Just got back from GAME with a copy, installing now

I'm so excited for this, looks amazing.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unHYQIde4k8&feature=feedf

Blow yo' mind. Potential spoiler btw.

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The end song I think is better as a song but the nostalgia, besides fat jokes, is weaker.

I'm stuck half way through single player, and I'm playing a lot of co-op.

What achievements give you the skins?!?

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I finished Single Player last night. Woke up this morning wanting to play more... The replayability is definitely nowhere near as good as the first. I found myself immediately bored. Once you have done a level, it's pretty much done for good. The first one, I could do the same puzzles over and over again, trying to do them different ways. Portal 2, you really can only do the maps the way they have laid them out.

I'd still say it's a better game than the first. Just doesn't have the same replayability.

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5hours to complete longest time i was stuck on anything was 5mins tops. Loved it. £30 on steam == about 5 hours drinking better for my health = justified

Hardly any replayability cant wait to play co-op


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Avoiding this thread like the plague until I play and beat the game.

Spoilers spoil the game, surprisingly enough, and I'm too cautious to even read a single post in case there is any.

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2011 03:48
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Well I'd hope that people would use the tags to hide spoilers... but if not and I see any I'll edit them in

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2011 04:06 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2011 04:10
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I've finished the single player campaign today. I loved it. my thoughts (spoilers!):



MEGA spoiler:



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Gil Galvanti
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I bought it Tuesday night and have played about 3 hours co-op and about 3 hours single player, loving both so far. I like the added puzzle elements they've added, and they've managed to keep all of the puzzles pretty unique and challenging without becoming frustrating.


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Gah need a partner! Anyone like to play with little old me?

Spent an hour repeating the first level thanks to the randomers disconnecting constantly -______-


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Posted: 22nd Apr 2011 15:37 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2011 15:38
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If we can set up a time where our difference in time zones suits us both I'll play

My steam name is MattMcD

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well if PSN hadn't gone down the day i bought it I'd have been able to try out the cross-platform co-op, as well as just on steam (would have been able to sync psn and steam accounts) but I have to wait a while now

add me on steam though, would really like to try out co-op when PSN is back online which will hopefully be later today, mazz423


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Posted: 22nd Apr 2011 16:20 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2011 16:24
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Theres a 5 hour difference if i remember right Thraxas XD

hmmm If i catch you on ill harass you to play, an vice versa?

Also this game screams DLC and addons. So you never know we might get a few more adventures yet


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don't know if anybodies asked yet, but, how much of an improvement are the graphics since portal/ep2?

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I'd say it's about the same.


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Yeah, the graphics are about the same, give or take some shaders.

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I have a question. Does the PC version of portal 2 have lan co-op? and if it does, can you do it with only one account? (In offline mode.)

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2011 22:17 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2011 22:17
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so... "Does the PC version of portal 2 have 1 player co-op?"

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2011 22:38 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2011 22:39
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Played coop mode with my cousin last night. He had never heard of Portal before. The moment we started playing, he was like, "Wow, this is retarded."

Yes... we ended up playing for five hours. From 10pm to 3am. Lol. He was addicted by the second level haha. Unfortunately though we didn't finish the coop campaign =(

The coop is LOADS... and I mean LOOOOAAADDDDSSS more fun than single player. Four portals! Hells ya! Easily the most fun I've had in a video game since.... hmmmm idk the first time I played snipers on Halo reach lol.

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No.
Way.

It looks seriously better than the first one. The overgrown labs are beautiful, and the new panels on hydraulics look amazing.

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I think the graphical quality is about the same (in terms of resolution etc.) since it runs about the same on my PC as the original. However the style is much nicer.



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Quote: "so... "Does the PC version of portal 2 have 1 player co-op?""


That's not what I am asking. I am wondering if I can do lan co-op with only buying one copy of portal 2. On Civilization 5, you can have only 1 copy of the game and to lan with the same steam account. So that's what I am asking.

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Yes the level look so much better. The overgrown plants and new panels bring more life in to it, but the overall graphics quality is about the same as the original.


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This isn't really a spoiler (so I won't tag it) - but anyone else think Chapter 7 is too damn long?

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You ruined the game for me

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Quote: "That's not what I am asking. I am wondering if I can do lan co-op with only buying one copy of portal 2. On Civilization 5, you can have only 1 copy of the game and to lan with the same steam account. So that's what I am asking."
No, not as far as I know. Steam only lets you log in on one computer at once anyway, it automatically logs out the other computer even if you are ingame.

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I don't think so at all. In fact, I'm quite confused how you could think it is so long when the campaign is only about 5-6 hours long. Chapter 7 definitely was the longest for me... However, I wouldn't say it was too long. I would say every other chapter is simply just too short lol.

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Ha

Quote: "7 definitely was the longest for me... However, I wouldn't say it was too long. I would say every other chapter is simply just too short lol."


Yeah, that's a fair point I suppose I really mean to say is that I got sick of the environment it took place in. Seemed to go on forever.

Finished the game completely this morning. Quite impressed. Only thing I would say is (although maybe it was just me being incredibly thick) that some sections in the middle/latter part of the game seem to me as if they weren't play-tested/polished as thoroughly as elsewhere. There were quite a few times where I was looking around for what I was expected to be doing/where I was supposed to be going rather than actually solving a puzzle (and not in a fun 'this is non-linear exploration' way - as in 'what is the purpose of being here').



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Quote: " There were quite a few times where I was looking around for what I was expected to be doing/where I was supposed to be going rather than actually solving a puzzle"

I felt the exact same way. And that's exactly why the single player has no re-playability whatsoever. All it was, was finding the place to put your portal and walking through it. They were hardly puzzles. I was a bit disappointed with some aspects of the Single Player. Chapter 8 I thought was fantastic though.

Fortunately, the Multi Player has AMAZING re-playability. You just always have to have a friend with you lol. I've played it through almost twice now and it was just as fun the second time as it was the first. There were no situations where you just have to figure out where to walk. Everything was a puzzle and very well made.

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Unfourtunatley i cant even buy this game because for some reason its not even sold in russia. Portal 1 isnt either.

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I liked Portal 2.
But as an RPG, not as a puzzle game.

I dont think portal 2 is even a contender to be a puzzle game IMO because the levels were so straight forward. "If there is a place where you can put a portal, then thats where you place it, level solved".

However i do think the storyline was fun, and coop was awesome.
Loved the ending.
And it was insanely funny.

But, it was alot easier than portal 1, all the fun stuff and hard stuff they took out because it was considered 'too hard'. There was so many more features that was originally in the game, but had to be removed. (you can watch old trailers and dev commentary to see what i mean).

I gotta say i was very disappointed in how easy it was, especially on Co-op, it was a 'oh, is that it?' moment.

To put how easy the final co-op level was into context, i solved half of it while my mate went to get a drink. And i dont think it is even possible to fail in the final mission for the single player.

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I don't think the game is difficult, but does it have to be to be enjoyable? The 'story', the humour, the setting etc. are all so very good that it makes the game an incredible, enjoyable piece of entertainment. Isn't the reason we play games to be entertained? It is for me anyway.

I like puzzle games but unlike some, I'm not looking for a game that I have to look up the solution on gamefaqs or I can't complete a level. I never want to be beaten by a game. If I can't work out the solution because it is so obscure, or it's simply trial and error then I feel the designers have failed.

A couple of times so far in Portal I have worked out what to do, but it's taken me a couple of minutes to work out how to get that light bridge to go where I want etc.

Personally I am making the game more difficult than it is, and not on purpose. I'm expecting clever solutions when in reality they are simple. A couple of times now I have worked out some incredibly elaborate solution to a puzzle and then gone "Oh.. I could have just placed a portal here and done it in half the time..."

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I like puzzle games but unlike some, I'm not looking for a game that I have to look up the solution on gamefaqs or I can't complete a level. I never want to be beaten by a game. If I can't work out the solution because it is so obscure, or it's simply trial and error then I feel the designers have failed. "

^This^ There is nothing that I hate more than having to look up walk-through videos. I was stuck 3 or 4 times and had to find a video in the Single Player. So that to me, means it was the perfect level of difficulty. I could have figured them out eventually, of course, but I'm not the most patient person.

I disagree with anyone saying that the coop is too easy, or easier than single player. The actual levels themselves, are just as complex. The only reason that makes them "easier" is because you have two minds working on the same thing. Play single player with another person in the room and I assure you, it will be much easier than by yourself.

Though I agree that the single player was simply, "Find place to set portal and the level is beat. Finding the portal-able(?) walls are slightly hidden making it harder." However, I think the Multi-player was done perfectly. It felt MUCH more like Portal 1 levels to me. And the fact that I was simply playing coop with FOUR portals... HOURS and HOURS of entertainment.

I am extremely disappointed in the single player because of the lack of re-playability (as I've said several times now) but the MP makes up for it. Though it's also disappointing that I MUST have a partner to enjoy the game. I wish I could just pick up a controller on my own and enjoy the game when I'm by myself. Not that I didn't enjoy my first play through; it was freaking awesome!!!! But I absolutely just can't play it again because, for the most part, the levels are far from being a puzzle. The ones that are, I have played that crap out of already lol. But you can only beat a dead horse so much.


This game SCREEEAAAMMMSSS DLC. I personally think Valve will be incredibly stupid if they didn't make some DLC. I'm always a little sketchy about buying DLC though. Nearly every time I have purchased DLC, even ones that are 800 microsoft points ($10) have been FARRRR from worth purchasing. Two hours of gameplay for $10, SERIOUSLY? That to me is absurd. DLC should always stay on par with the game's quality. At least IMO.

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I feel bad for Russians, I really do. You miss out on a lot of good things. No offense, as this is a solid stat: Most of Russia isn't exactly advanced by means of technology (except for in weapons...oddly...), so it doesn't surprise me, especially being that every Russian gamer I've ever encountered on my GMod server can barely handle Source games. And when I asked about your "high end" computers, most say there are really no ones that can play games produced after 2005.

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are you sure that those guys were Russian? and not russians that lived in america?

because i live in Moscow, which is by far more technologically advanced than most of russia (because most of russia is poor). but then again. i could say the same about most of america too. I lived in the suburb near Boston and most people there had really crappy cheap computers that could barley play games after 2005. and when i moved out, i realised i was the only one in town who could even fix a computer as people kept emailing me about computer problems they had and they didnt know anyone else who could do it and they had no money to pay a PC repair service.

but one thing i enjoy about moscow is its advanced technology, cheap internet and high avaliability of good quality computer parts.

most soviet generation russians are geeks by nature.

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I don't think you're qualified to tell someone what the conditions in their country are, based on your experiences. How would you know? Unless you've lived in both Russia and the USA....

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Same for me. 90% of people in my area have crap PCs and no knowledge of how to maintain them.

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i lived in us for like 10 years dude, i lived in Needham Mass and that was pretty wealthy town. (exept everyone was in big debt) from what i have seen, california and new england are somewhat developed but midwest and the entire area in the middle is not very different from siberia in terms of rural undeveloped wateland. (the states however have a lot of farmland in those areas and the interstate network is still in good shape. I lived in russia as well when i was a kid, during the 90s. and now i moved back here again

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i lived in us for like 10 years dude, i lived in Needham Mass and that was pretty wealthy town. (exept everyone was in big debt) from what i have seen, california and new england are somewhat developed but midwest and the entire area in the middle is not very different from siberia in terms of rural undeveloped wateland. (the states however have a lot of farmland in those areas and the interstate network is still in good shape. I lived in russia as well when i was a kid, during the 90s. and now i moved back here again"

Not you. I meant crispex...sorry if I confused you.

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Posted: 24th Apr 2011 22:42 Edited at: 24th Apr 2011 22:42
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Just finished playing it The puzzles were too easy in my opinion, but the story certainly compensates for it



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Posted: 24th Apr 2011 23:07
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Quote: "Not you. I meant crispex...sorry if I confused you."

oh ok...

BTW i was wrong, about portal games not being sold in russia. They are sold. but they are very unpopular for some reason. not a lot of people know about it, which is really weird because the halflife series in russia is extremley popular. everyone has played it.

dont hate people who rip you off,cheat and get away with it, learn from them
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