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CoffeeGrunt
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Let's be honest, this argument is circular. I lay down the idea that it's designed as much for adults as it is for kids. There's several high-brow references that kids simply wouldn't get.

Then you'll reply with "It's a show for girls, trololol."

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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 18:24 Edited at: 5th Jun 2011 18:25
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To OP'

Its a meme get over it, TGC's banner has the orginal meme so shush


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*sigh*

Lauren Faust, maker of Powerpuff Girls and Foster's Home of Imaginary Friends, made this cartoon to be not for simply girls. It has many masculine elements, and I've even seen multiple girls that have been too scared by the monsters to watch some episodes to the end. I'm actually a preteen, not a teen, and considering the advanced vocabulary, I'm in the correct age group. So I am actually in one of the main viewing groups. And MLP is actually a good cartoon, and if you watched the first two episodes you might realize that.

Batman is not my idol, idols must be real. And as much as I love him Batman he isn't even real in my eyes. I am simply obsessing over him, by drawing him in my free time, reading comic books and graphic novels, watching movies and television shows. I am obsessing over him more then My Little Pony.

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Quote: "Let's be honest, this argument is circular. I lay down the idea that it's designed as much for adults as it is for kids. There's several high-brow references that kids simply wouldn't get.
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I'm sure there's some content in there that is more relevant to adults that kids wouldn't understand, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a show about colourful cutesy ponies.

But when you really think about it, people aren't watching it because it has intelligent dialogue. Its dialogue alone would probably get it an average amount of viewers, but the fact that everyone wants to be alternative by pretending to be obsessed with something about ponies and friendship and the like is why it's so popular. If there wasn't anything 'controversial' about it the viewings would be much, much lower, and there wouldn't be a thread about it here. So yeah, it's really just an indicator of how many people want to be alternative, whatever that is supposed to do for them.



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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 18:36
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I find that offensive. If you actually read what I and others have said we genuinely like the cartoon. And there is a cult following of it and whether they watch it because it's "outlawed" or not doesn't matter. We're not talking about the show overall, we're talking about the show on here. And all the people here seriously discuss the plot and characters, they don't just say "I like it lololololol".

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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 18:53
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Quote: "So yeah, it's really just an indicator of how many people want to be alternative"


I think that may be why some started watching it. But if it were truly aweful, I think people would stop watching it pretty quickly.

That said, I plan on watching it eventually, if anything just to see what all the fuss is about.

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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 18:53 Edited at: 5th Jun 2011 18:53
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Quote: "So yeah, it's really just an indicator of how many people want to be alternative"


Let's be different by supporting the 2nd most successful meme on KYM?

I'll be honest, I wouda supported your argument 100% a month ago. But the numbers didn't make sense for that theory. Look at the link below, high views are relatively standard for a new meme, but the image rate is just silly. I've looked through a fair bit of it, and there's no real spam, etc. It's all legit from the fanbase.

People don't join something just because it's popular and make 50 images a day for it. They join it because they genuinely like it.

And I highly doubt it's a coalition of every gay guy on the internet working for gay domination, in fact I imagine there's gays that don't like MLP, same as there's straights that don't.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/130/298/Memes.png?1307205302

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why do you have to be feminime just cuz your gay?
now THAT doesnt make any sense to me.

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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 19:46 Edited at: 5th Jun 2011 19:49
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Quote: "People don't join something just because it's popular and make 50 images a day for it. They join it because they genuinely like it"


No, they might also do it because they have mental issues.

People don't start watching a colourful child's cartoon about ponies because they like it. Sure it might have something that makes them continue watching it, but that's not what I'm talking about. Besides, I don't really have anything against people watching this so much as people posting all over the internet about wonderful rainbow-coloured ponies. It's just creepy and annoying. You're not being alternative or cool by spamming crap about it on forums and message boards, you're just being creepy and copying everyone's fake overenthusiastic behaviour.

Quote: "I find that offensive."


Sorry, but it's just my opinion and you'll have to deal with it.

Quote: "I think that may be why some started watching it. But if it were truly aweful, I think people would stop watching it pretty quickly. "


Agreed, there must be some quality to it when you get into it, I'm not arguing that.



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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 19:53 Edited at: 5th Jun 2011 19:53
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Quote: "You're not being alternative or cool by spamming crap about it on forums and message boards, you're just being creepy and copying everyone's fake overenthusiastic behaviour."


I don't think that's very fair. There's a lot of subjects that get a lot of attention here? What's wrong with a show about ponies getting some attention for being a fun show?

(Note, I haven't actually seen it yet, just going off what people are saying about it)

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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 20:01
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Quote: "Sorry, but it's just my opinion and you'll have to deal with it.
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Thats true! Less epic complaints please.

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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 20:12
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Quote: "And what's the problem with people considering you gay / making fun of you, just because you like this particular show?"


Agreed. In fact, people probably do think I'm gay, I mean, I REALLY don't help myself in that respect, but I don't care. I didn't care when Powerpuff Girls was the girlie thing for kids to watch. The only people you didn't tell were the people who'd beat you up for it.

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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 20:25
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Quote: "You're not being alternative or cool by spamming crap about it on forums and message boards, you're just being creepy and copying everyone's fake overenthusiastic behaviour."


I don't intend to be alternative or cool. I like a show, I have the avatar. Like I said, the numbers don't add up to your theories, so now your saying everyone on KYM has mental issues that cause them to post ponies everywhere? Thank you for your input Dr Freud.

Quote: " I didn't care when Powerpuff Girls was the girlie thing for kids to watch."


I don't know a single guy my age who didn't watch that. Was an awesome show, and MLP is made by the same person. That's the main reason I decided to give the show a chance.

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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 20:37
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Exactly, Grunt.

We didn't start watching it because of fads, and when it comes down to it this thread is about me Grunt and Quik because we're the ones talking about it. Me and Quik watched it first because of Grunt's thread and he watched it because it was made by Lauren Frost.

Quote: "people posting all over the internet about wonderful rainbow-coloured ponies"


Quote: " It's just creepy and annoying"


I don't mean to be melodramatic in your eyes, but holy crap! If you had seen a bit of the show, or our avatars, only one is rainbow colored and theres a seroius explanation for that. What I'm saying is that it's not the stereotypical girl show, so you should go watch an episode and come back, because we like it and even if you aren't okay with us talking about something we like we have a right to talk about what we like, as do you. It's not like ponies are swear words, that if you go somewhere and post a picture of it because that's what we enjoy we're going to get slapped by mods. At least not here, because on other forums I know people go overboard and they get slapped for it. But we are not talking about the meme it's self we're talking about this forum.

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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 21:15
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Quote: "No, they might also do it because they have mental issues."


iam sorry are you suggesting that i have a mental issue, because i like a tv show?
iam sorry, but how can that not be offensive?

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Yeh in all honesty, there are only 3 people who actually like the show on this forum. So as far as it "spreading," while more people took it up than I thought, it's hardly getting on like a burning house.

Basically, you have nothing to fear from us "taking over your forum" or whatever. In fact all you've done is continually offend us for liking this TV show, making several allusions to our sexuality and mental health. I can accept you not liking or wanting to liek the show - easy. I simply don't see why you feel the need to insult us, does it make you feel better about yourself or something?

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Thank you. The doctor didn't find any mental issues, and I've been tested 3 times!

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Posted: 5th Jun 2011 22:41 Edited at: 5th Jun 2011 22:48
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Thank you freaking Ben for saying everything that I was going to say. Nobody would be spamming the crap out of this show if it wasn't so iconly girly. Surely you knew that posting MLP everywhere would at least stir a few "you're gay" responses - it seems like you were waiting for those kind of responses so that you could prove yourself to be open and different.

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Quote: "Thank you freaking Ben for saying everything that I was going to say. Nobody would be spamming the crap out of this show if they didn't think they would get some kind of indie cred for it. Surely you knew that posting MLP everywhere would at least stir a few
"you're gay" responses - it seems like you were waiting for those kind of responses so that you could prove yourself to be open and different."


Not sure how iam going to respond to this without sounding like an total bitch....

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Quote: "Not sure how iam going to respond to this without sounding like an total bitch...."


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Quote: "Don't worry, the damage is already done
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it was kind of the point

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Quote: "Surely you knew that posting MLP everywhere would at least stir a few
"you're gay" responses "


everywhere, explain everywhere

the only, only thing i have done is to post "everypony" on 2 occations, thats all, otherwise its all kept to a thread, the other two i have basicly not seen post anywhere.

and let me put this out there, once and for all: MLP is far from the only girl show i love: I love Sailor moon, powepuff girls, i enjoy kim possible, i love the movie "the girl who leapt through time", the anime claymore, who can essentially be called a girly action anime.
do i need to go on? no i dont think so, I belive you guys have a mental issue, for not allowing me to like and enjoy what I want. Now do us all a favor and stop bitching about it.

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What the crap...

Can you guys seriously read what we are saying.

I have already replied to what Ben said, and proved his point wrong, so there is no reason for you to post that.

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Okay fair enough, I didn't ask for this freaking thread to be put here. I don't want to have to prove myself to be non-gay, then prove myself to not be an attention whore by claiming I'm not gay, then it continues on and on. This argument's going nowhere.

Y'know, when I joined, the forum was a somewhat more docile place. I'm not using this as moral leverage, like the show or not, I couldn't care less about all you faceless people I will never meet nor will any of you affect my life any more than a dust particle's gravity affects a cat's.

I'll go back to the thread I made for discussions like this. Feel free to post your hatred of the show, me, and the people that watch it. I hope you feel much better about life afterwards, because if putting down others is the only way you can feel good about life, then it's a sad bloody existence you have my friends. Thank you.

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I don't want to stomp out like that, but I am mad as well. And I want to continue posting but I will use the MLP reaction pics, and I will make reactions for people will still get it, and not just Quik, because other people watch it, they just don't have the avatar.

If you don't want that then tell me and I'll gladly follow Grunt because you guys are being... a's. (I don't know if I'm allowed to say it)

Okay? You've gotten what you wanted? Then let's lock this thread before we all get slapped for flame wars. And I hope your happy.

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tsk. tsk.

I dont know if i should laugh or rage over Anti-Mlp fans. Seriously, your arguing over a cartoon that was aimed at FAMLIES.

Ben you have a picture of a cat as your avatar. I find that offensive and disgusting. Especially since cats also happen to be one of the largest meme's on the internet, that started in 4Chan.

What? dont like the relation that your harmless cat was turned into a poster boy on the internets cess pit? Aww. Stop being a idiot and grow up.

Quote: "People don't start watching a colourful child's cartoon about ponies because they like it."


People have kids that watch it, ergo perants and families watch it with them. Unless your socially backward you'd know that. An if a pearent happened to like it and told there friends, or if a older teenager watched it with his little sister? The entire idea of being a successful show is a wide range of audiences. Now personally i dont like it but i dont hate it, its bearable if my little sister put it on and i was comfy id watch it. Its just not my cuppa tea.


Because i really have more important things right now ill bullet point why people rage over MLP;

1. There insecure.

Oh wait that was quick.


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OH! MLP=MY LITTLE PONY!

I read the first two posts only, and I didn't recognize mlp as being my little pony, just as some yet undefined acronym. Then with david r's post in context, "The visual style of an audio format" makes no sense.

Who cares?

summing up this thread:
Quote: "Well.... now there's 2 MLP threads. Nice work!"



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Quote: "Oh wait that was quick"


why did i feel hit there? XD

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Personnaly, I think that everyone is entitled to watch whatever they want. And those who dont like what someone else likes to watch, they should just accept that, and look at their own plate.
Everyone has its own tastes and preferences, and that's it.

Now, shake hands.

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Hooves*

Sorry. Sorry.

Everyone agrees that


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Quote: "The visual style of an audio format" makes no sense."


To be pedantic, characteristic waveforms / waveform jitter could be the visual style of an audio format

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If little kids like to watch this show then what is the big deal, my kids like to watch shows as this. As long as its not barny

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Just to be clear, I have no beef with anyone that wants to watch this. I'm just saying that I think the whole wave of teenage boys that have suddenly become obsessed with a 'girly' show about colourful ponies is bizarre, and I'm trying to give a reason for it being so explosively popular that the internet is filled with images of it.

Quote: "iam sorry are you suggesting that i have a mental issue, because i like a tv show?"


Sorry, I was just reinforcing the fact that I strongly believe it's suddenly so popular because of what I explained. Doesn't necessarily refer to anyone here, but I think it might do.



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Quote: "Just to be clear, I have no beef with anyone that wants to watch this. I'm just saying that I think the whole wave of teenage boys that have suddenly become obsessed with a 'girly' show about colourful ponies is bizarre, and I'm trying to give a reason for it being so explosively popular that the internet is filled with images of it."


Just posting to accept what's as close to an apology as I imagine I'll get.

I think the image spread is easy. Because it's easily replicable. It's got a cute and simple art style that artists can easily make their own parodies of, the ponies expression pallate gives alot of scope for reaction pics, and the fact it's a cartoon makes it easier to lip-sync for parody videos.

As far as the general popularity? Wrll, the only reason I can offer you, is that people genuinely enjoy the show. About as far as I can see bro.

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Quote: "Just posting to accept what's as close to an apology as I imagine I'll get."


I'm not apologising for my opinion, which by the way I think still stands as a valid point.



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Quote: "I'm not apologising for my opinion, which by the way I think still stands as a valid point."


Oh I know that. But it was as close as I'll get.

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Quite honestly, I couldn't give a melon one way or the other, but could this not be limited to one thread? Looks less cluttered.

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I just wonder why this isnt locked yet x)

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Yeh can we get this locked please...mods?

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Before this gets locked I stand by what I said to Benjamin.

Read what I say. Your points are not valid, therefore there is no reason to stand by it. Honestly everything you're saying isn't fair and some of it is seriously offensive, so we deserve a real apology, not whatever that half-a'd thing was.

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Quote: "Your points are not valid"


Just saying something doesn't make it right (or wrong), so I think my points are perfectly valid. As for it being offensive, could you elaborate on that? If I've unnecessarily said something generally offensive I don't mind apologising.



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Quote: "No, they might also do it because they have mental issues.

People don't start watching a colourful child's cartoon about ponies because they like it. Sure it might have something that makes them continue watching it, but that's not what I'm talking about. Besides, I don't really have anything against people watching this so much as people posting all over the internet about wonderful rainbow-coloured ponies. It's just creepy and annoying.
You're not being alternative or cool by spamming crap about it on forums and message boards, you're just being creepy and copying everyone's fake overenthusiastic behaviour."


3 insults in one post, not offensive enough?

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Quote: "3 insults in one post, not offensive enough?"


Apart from the first part which I didn't mean literally (and as it happens I wasn't singling anyone out), could you point out the parts in bold that you considered offensive, and explain why?



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You called us creepy in the second bold part, that is quite offensive, well not offensive, but more plain rude.
in the third you said: "we're not being alternative your just being creepy" again being plain rude, your first of all suggesting we want to be alternative and cool, totally ignoring what we have been saying, and then you go ahead and say we are creepy once again for liking MLP.

I have mailed BigAdd and requested a thread lock, not sure if it will help or not, but hopefully the thread will be locked soon enough

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Hey! Don't get offended on the internet, it gets you no where.

I think we had our epic drama in this thread, may a Mod close it soon...



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I say what I think, if that offends you then that's not my problem and I shouldn't really have to make excuses for it. You don't really have to take it as an 'insult' (if you really think anyone should) since it wasn't directed at anyone in particular, and I was generalizing. I do think it's creepy.

Anyway yes, there's little reason for this thread to continue although I like the discussion on taking offense at someone else's opinions and views.



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how is that not directed to us..?

and for the record, I am a man.

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Benjamin
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Posted: 6th Jun 2011 02:49
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Quote: "how is that not directed to us..?"


I was using the alternate pronoun to one, which doesn't refer directly to the person you're talking to. But yeah, I do personally think you guys are kinda creepy, with your happy pony obsession. But don't mind me.



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Posted: 6th Jun 2011 03:00 Edited at: 6th Jun 2011 03:00
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I think most people on this forum have strange likes and hobbies, but that's what makes life interesting. If all we ever talked about was drinking beer and chopping wood, this forum would be very boring. Last time I looked this was Geek Culture, not Manly Man Culture For Men With Beards (You must be drunk to enter)


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Posted: 6th Jun 2011 03:21 Edited at: 6th Jun 2011 03:22
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Honestly, I wasn't annoyed or offended, nor did I think any of you were gay for liking the show. Not at all. I just believe it's annoying when a post that could have had something interesting, informative, or even productive, but instead is replaced with a pink pony repeating an internet meme in almost every post you make. "You" as in the majority of My Little Pony fanatics on the forum.

And also, for this one time, I actually don't think Benjamin is trolling. From my perspective (which could be totally mis-observed on my part), it seems like you all are trolling him for telling you something that you didn't want to hear. You've all been trolling. Posting things like "haters gonna hate" pictures with pink ponies plastered in them just seems spiteful and only posted to get a rise out of somebody. You guys are coming off as feeling superior to those who do not like My Little Pony by constantly high-fiving and congratulating each other on beating the ones who disagree with you. It's annoying and is only posted to get a rise out of somebody.

If I offend you with my observations, then I won't hesitate to apologize, but please give valid reasoning as to why it offends you.

Also, I thought every one of you were great posters a month ago. But your posts have degraded into nothing but ponies. I don't like ponies, so it annoys me when I constantly see it from the same people. It's great that you genuinely like it. I'm happy for you. But I don't, and neither does the topic creator, thus a petition was made to see what other people thought of it as well. The right thing to do from my perspective. I could care less whether anything was done or not regarding the excessive ponies, but if something was done about it, this was probably the best way someone could go about it.

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Posted: 6th Jun 2011 03:22
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Thank you for your support, however -

Quote: "for this one time"


What!?



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