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Geek Culture / CoD MW3 anticipation thread.

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CoffeeGrunt
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Posted: 19th Jun 2011 03:06
Trub...you're not the don of the BF 3 community, so stop acting like it.

Make a thread for BF3. Few people care.

Deathead
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Posted: 19th Jun 2011 03:18
Quote: "Trub...you're not the don of the BF 3 community, so stop acting like it."

I know man... I am the don of the BF3 community. So CoffeeGrunt I'm going to make you an offer you cannot refuse... I offer you a free pixel pear .


Quik
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Posted: 19th Jun 2011 03:33
i'd also like to know since when i was a kid..

oh wait, iam 18... iam a kid...

seriously though I really have no idea where everyone got that from: when i play 32 player maps there are usually 2 guys communicating. TOTAL, included typing.
and its easy as heck to mute too..

and for the record, I am a man.

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Posted: 19th Jun 2011 15:00
No no, your allowed to post your age now, your an adult

I'll be getting both BF3 and MW3, and I'm sure a lot of others will. BF3 and MW3, despite looking similar, are barely competitive with each other

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Posted: 19th Jun 2011 15:44
Quote: "despite looking similar, are barely competitive with each other"


finally someone understand xD

I will be getting them both aswell

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Posted: 19th Jun 2011 17:10
I'll try to get them both too to see some changes with modern warfare 3 just because games with 3 are good . Wonder if they have dedicated servers just because people boycotted them because of that... I hope their storyline gets as good as black ops to connect with the characters!


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Posted: 19th Jun 2011 18:26
hypocrite

Quik
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Posted: 19th Jun 2011 18:28
what happened? from BF3 fa-
no i wont continue on that ill say: great! yeah i too hope for dedicated servers thatw ould be brilliant indeed.

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Posted: 19th Jun 2011 20:28
yeah, the MW2 system was neat but prevented communities forming

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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 00:47
I have nothing against match making, in fact the system is brilliant, however going with dedicated is a better idea in case you have to choose

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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 02:36
Quote: "Ummm...have you actually played MW2? Cos it's in there, I should know...
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Hmm.. It appears you are correct, but no drum mag.


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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 17:20
Quote: "I have nothing against match making, in fact the system is brilliant, however going with dedicated is a better idea in case you have to choose"


Were you talking about me, I was agreeing

Ooh, lets make it three posts by stumpted people in a row

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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 17:22
I prefer server lists as opposed to Matchmaking. Or at least, random matchmaking like the console versions of CoD and Halo have - especially CoD as there's no real voting system like Reach.

I always get the terrible maps. Off The Rock, Through The Bush, Nothing But Derail.

Wolf
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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 17:43
Quote: "Yea I'm done with this.Oh yeah and the DLC would be a huge DLC,I don't want kids to play BF3,so I should start making them think MW3 is better so they won't annoy me with their JB voices.Just tell the MW3 fanboys to stop complaining on our videos we'll stop ours."


Is this really happening, did he really just post this?

Well, than uncle wolf has to post 5 funny additional comments.

1. You get kids playing Battlefield 3. Its a mainstream game and moste dude's with a PC,PS3 or XBox will buy it. From the 35 year old weekend gamer that has job wife and kids to the 13 year old boy that is concerned about fanboyism on videogames and trolling the heck out of Modern Warfare youtube videos.

2. Both are extremely well developed games with awesome visuals.
I don't get how the kids these days can look at the new call of duty games and say "the graphics are bad...[inser other shooter here] owns this!!!".

3.Even if you are attached to a videogame and you have been waited for its release since the announcment date and you have already preordered it you are not involved in the games development. you dont need to defend it

4. I guess your voice sounds like Lemmy Kilmister then if all the other teenage players annoy you so much?

5. I bet that even when they create the most perfect shooter. You get zombies complaining about it on youtube. My advice is to not even READ youtube comments...its better for your soul, trust me!
And if you really care what some children say about a videogame on the internet, you might want to reconcider what you take as important and what not.

On a less offtopic note. I will buy it as soon as it is cheaper. The singleplayer is simply far too short to be wasting 50 bucks on it.

The multiplayer modes of these huge productions nowadays are indeed filled with jaded kids that constantly swear, insult, hack and whine. Its no fun anymore, I don't feel relaxed playing it with all this "tension" from the other players. Call me one of these nostalgic granddaddys but the old times of onlinegaming was completely different. Especially shooter games.

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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 17:48
Quote: "Were you talking about me, I was agreeing "


I wasnt aiming it at anyone specific, just stating what i think about it

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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 17:49
I saw the gameplay videos for Manhatten. I'm sorry, but it just looks stupid.

There's some sort of massive horde of subs bombing New York for no real reason. In fact Russia invaded america for no real reason.

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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 17:59
Quote: "In fact Russia invaded america for no real reason."


They found the dead american agent on that airfield where the makarov dude shot all the civilians.

Yeah, in reality, they wouldnt invade the country straight away



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Van B
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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 18:05
The only thing I need or want from MW3 is for the online play to be a little more intelligent. I'm not having a go at COD players, it's the actual map design that enforces the style of play. In COD, I find that the minute I stop running, is the same minute I get knifed in the back. I'd really like to see more funneled levels, so the action mostly takes place in one particular spot, rather than anywhere and everywhere on the map. I like to play COD sometimes and just relax, take my time sniping at people... I can't be devious in COD like I can with other FPS games.

One thing I really like about COD, is the split screen online mode - because then you have someone to watch your back. When you have 2 people on the same console, they tend to stick together. That's really the only way I play Black Ops.

I will be buying that other game people keep mentioning, but I'll be keeping an eye on MW3 too of course - the idea of playing in London really interests me, and I might even get used to the run and gun gameplay if it's a more reasonable and realistic environment.

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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 18:10
Quote: "run and gun gameplay "


Being extremely picky now... Call of Duty IS actually a railshooter with awesome script sequences and a lot of thestosterone.

I just wish for a Multiplayer Mode that would be a bit more military and less actionhero shooter aswell.



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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 18:10
One thing I like about TF2 is that the design leads to tangible frontlines being made on the map. E.g., points where the red team are defending. It shows progress as you slowly beat them back to their final cap.

CoD is more of a shifting sands style of play due to the spawning system. It means everyone can spawn anywhere and removes the ability to co-ordinate attacks. CoD matches are just rush-and-fly gameplay with two teams of lone wolves squaring off.

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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 18:44
First, Van B. Glad you're here. I wanted to make a public apology to you. I shouldn't have done what I did. I acted like a child. Seriously, my bad, and I'm glad to see you in here talking with us.

On topic:

@CoffeeGrunt: Yes, I enjoy CoD, but their spawn system is pretty bad. Almost terrible, even. I hate when someone is camping, and they spawn you in their way, so you just drop.

@Wolf: There's very few games that have amazing spawn points, and that's one of the things that determine that feel. If you spawn way out in the boonies, you have more of a chance of having to "one man army" your way back to your team. But, if they have team spawn points, it builds camaraderie as you have to support the front line or lose your spawn point.
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Quote: "The only thing I need or want from MW3 is for the online play to be a little more intelligent. I'm not having a go at COD players, it's the actual map design that enforces the style of play. In COD, I find that the minute I stop running, is the same minute I get knifed in the back. I'd really like to see more funneled levels, so the action mostly takes place in one particular spot, rather than anywhere and everywhere on the map. I like to play COD sometimes and just relax, take my time sniping at people... I can't be devious in COD like I can with other FPS games."


well some maps if you play Domination (which i do) does that really well (the winter dock map for example, and the airfield map too)

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No worries Amo, I didn't take anything personally.

I'll have to try those levels Quik, it might just be enough to stop me rage-quitting after 2 games.

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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 21:37
I am definatley exited! I dont efven know what is it about MW series, (as for me i have troble following the story) but there is just something about that game thats so frigging awesome and epic. Infact i am so exited about MW3 that i am gonna replay MW1 and MW2

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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 21:56 Edited at: 20th Jun 2011 21:57
nah, the stories simple



The stuff writes itself

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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 22:04
Yeh. Except Russia gains nothing from attacking America. Yet throws thousands of soldiers and machines of war into the blender...for what gain?

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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 22:22 Edited at: 20th Jun 2011 22:23
Well, apparently the guy from COD 4, Zakhaev was the first politcial figure of the ultra-nationalist party which Zakhaev pretty much started; after being shot and loosing his left arm, he emerged again during a Russian civil-war, him and the Ultra-nationalist party won the war, so after you killed Zakhaev in the end of the game, you killed their leader and after that the Ultra-nationalist party was split apart and some turned extremist(Makarov) and some was loyal aka. the new Russian president in MW2, Boris Vorshevsky. Makarov was pushed out of the main circle of the party because of being to EXTREME! He however appears to have some link to the Russian military and seems to have gained control over it and turned the military to go for more terrorist methods... So Makarov has control of the military, and by framing an American for the deaths of all those innocents he managed to get the go-ahead from the president of his party to attack and invaded America.

I think anyway it is as much as I got muster from the Call of Duty wiki.lol


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Posted: 20th Jun 2011 22:33
To be honest when I played black ops I hated the one way missions. For example, when you have to avoid the convoy if you disturb them you get a message (that's unrealistic) why not teach that threw making the convoy attack you until you die? It really annoys me because it doesn't teach me anything.


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Quote: "Well, apparently the guy from COD 4, Zakhaev was the first politcial figure of the ultra-nationalist party which Zakhaev pretty much started; after being shot and loosing his left arm, he emerged again during a Russian civil-war, him and the Ultra-nationalist party won the war, so after you killed Zakhaev in the end of the game, you killed their leader and after that the Ultra-nationalist party was split apart and some turned extremist(Makarov) and some was loyal aka. the new Russian president in MW2, Boris Vorshevsky. Makarov was pushed out of the main circle of the party because of being to EXTREME! He however appears to have some link to the Russian military and seems to have gained control over it and turned the military to go for more terrorist methods... So Makarov has control of the military, and by framing an American for the deaths of all those innocents he managed to get the go-ahead from the president of his party to attack and invaded America."


It's amazing how you can write a paragraph, yet it doesn't answer my question.

There's nothing to gain by pulverising America into dust, but so much to lose. Makarov isn't portrayed as a maniac - he's a calculated killer doing it for money. He can't financially gain from attacking America at all.

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@ Ocho Geek
Quote: "nah, the stories simple"

Maybe its just me but even after reading your summary, i didnt understand much. i have troble keeping track of the charecters.

the only fuzzy story outline i comprehend is:...



so the basic outline seemes to be clear, the thing i have troble following is the resembelence of individual missions/ charecters to the storyline. To me it all seemes like, " we are going to track down some guy who is somehow connected to the main bad guy" or "we are infiltrating a base of terrorists to save some dude, who has info on what the main bad guy is up to"

maybe this is because you are playing as multiple charecters in the game and it gets confusing.

Despite of all the hate/mild dislike of blackops on this forum, i think blackops story was a lot better because you played as one charecter all the time (exept for like 2 missions where you played as the other CIA dude and the old russian dissident). Also each mission clearly explains, when, where, who and why so i can understand the story better. MW seem to lack in explaning the who, when where and why. Well maybe most of the missions explain where, and who, but i never got the "why" and "when". and some MW missions i also had troble understanding "who"

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I was using sarcasm, but ok

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Oh fair doos..lack of tone in text 'n' all.

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Posted: 21st Jun 2011 03:36
Quote: "It's amazing how you can write a paragraph, yet it doesn't answer my question.

There's nothing to gain by pulverising America into dust, but so much to lose. Makarov isn't portrayed as a maniac - he's a calculated killer doing it for money. He can't financially gain from attacking America at all."

I guess that is the whole point, it doesn't make any sense what so ever.

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@ Ocho Geek
Quote: "I was using sarcasm, but ok "


Oh lol I am actually really bad at detecting sarcasm lol

yeah i feel pretty stupid.

Quote: "There's nothing to gain by pulverising America into dust, but so much to lose. Makarov isn't portrayed as a maniac - he's a calculated killer doing it for money. He can't financially gain from attacking America at all.""


Makarov is just a puppet in all this. Shepard was the one who wasnted this war and he proboly payed Makarov a ton of money for the airport massacre with a dead american agent. I am sure its more than just that, I bet other tention between russia and the US were happening at that time. Dont forget that British intellegence (proboly with connections to the CIA and pentagon has a lengthy record of espionage/sabotage related activity on russian soil and former USSR. I am sure The airport massacre was just the final straw, russian nerves gave out and declared war

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Posted: 21st Jun 2011 05:33
Still don't get how they worked out that Allen's body was American, especially since there was a tattoo depicting Moscow on his chest.

I respect your opinion on this series, so I hope you respect mine. And mine is that it needs to die and I hope MW3 is the nail in the coffin for it.

Yes, it is me.
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there are lots of ways to identify a person. Corruption within intellegence agencies Imformation leaks that give out lists of specific people, and dont forget, they wanted to start this war so they proboly made sure his body would be identified as american, CIA or pentagon proboly leaked the info about him to russians before this whole thing started

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Posted: 21st Jun 2011 11:14 Edited at: 21st Jun 2011 11:14
Quote: "Still don't get how they worked out that Allen's body was American, especially since there was a tattoo depicting Moscow on his chest.
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Makarov certainly got it from the guy with the moustache. The general dude. Edit: Shepard



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Posted: 21st Jun 2011 18:14 Edited at: 21st Jun 2011 18:14
I did always like the Treyarch stories better. CoD 3 was Treyarch right? I think so... Anyway, and it was the first one I could at least get a little interested in. I believe MW has good MP, but their SP stories are meh. I loved the stories in WaW and BO. I can't wait 'til it's Treyarch's turn again!

*SPOILER*


But, I still love playing MW's MP. Especially, with the friends I roll with! We can fill up our team just by starting a party, and it'll be full in a half second! That's what makes these games awesome.

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