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Geek Culture / [LOCKED] How would I round up some programmers for an open source DarkBASIC project?

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Fluffy Rabbit
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 05:59 Edited at: 1st Apr 2012 06:04
I already have some source code to start the project. I have a direction that I want the project to go. The only reason I want to do this is to live the life. It's sort of a fantasy of mine to pull all-night coding sessions with my team of expert developers, knowing that when I upload that file, somebody on the other end the next day will review it and make their changes on it. Years later, I'll be an expert with a masterpiece and a job at a AAA game company.

I don't want to work at Subway or some small town business. I want to work at a cool startup game company or at least volunteer somewhere that's not river cleanup or something, and I don't want anybody to tell me that I have to go to college first. I'm not in high school, OK? But NEWS FLASH: Now in Oregon, every high school kid has to put in volunteer, hours, anywhere. So how am I going to compete? I am trying to list some heartfelt reasons why I want to have a team of programmers together, because emotion and humor and ambitious programming projects fill the void left by my sucky, sucky life. Sorry if this got too emotional, but I think it is absolutely necessary to get this team together, so can anyone give advice as to how I would get these people to join me?
Mychal B
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 06:06
Forshadowing: The dark cloud of Mooney was approaching the thread closer and closer, minute by minute

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Fluffy Rabbit
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 06:13
Please, please, please do not lock this thread. Please edit my post to your liking so that the thread can stay open.
Zotoaster
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 06:19
Best way is to become good at it and have something valuable to offer. It will take time and effort but your dreams won't come true without it. If you really love programming, you won't even have to work to do it, it will happen because you'll be programming in your spare time, never quite satisfied, always self-correcting, until a point when you know enough about enough things to be able to integrate into a team. That may be the goal but enjoy the journey.

"everyone forgets a semi-colon sometimes." - Phaelax
Fluffy Rabbit
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 06:31
@Zotoaster-

Is that supposed to be a joke? I'm asking people to join my programming team and you give a lecture on how someone can become a great programmer like you? Are you kidding? This is called "Geek Culture" for a reason, not "Nerd Culture". Anybody want to join my team, or tell me how to phrase things to get some gullible people on board?
Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 06:45 Edited at: 1st Apr 2012 06:45
Team Requests are only allowed in special circumstances and tend to require that you're able to have something to show for it. The majority of team requests get locked.

But Zotoaster gave some useful advice. If you do have something valuable to offer then people are more likely to team up with you or conversely, have you on their team.

But question, why is college a bad idea? Whilst I don't think it's a necessity for getting a good job, but I know some degrees out there are pretty damn useful for this kind of work. Obvious you don't want to be told that, but I figure I'd offer the reason behind my question.

Also, what kind of thing are you looking to do with your team of people? What can you offer them? Can you provide them with confidence that your team will reach these goals? Have you got something to show? After all, people will want to know they're teaming up with the right people for the job.

You believing in yourself or you really wanting something badly might not be enough to convince somebody, at least anybody who'll be useful to you.


Mychal B
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 06:50 Edited at: 1st Apr 2012 06:52
Anyone that would be of any help wouldn't help you after reading your previous post.
Quote: "Anybody want to join my team, or tell me how to phrase things to get some gullible people on board? "

If you don't want a thread like this to be locked there are standards. put a wip, show off your work with some pics, and then see if other people will be willing to help you work on your game. No one here that actually programs/models/or creates sound effects..etc.. is going to join your team without any proof of what you are capable of.

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Fluffy Rabbit
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 07:00 Edited at: 1st Apr 2012 07:02
@Seppuku Arts- I'm afraid you don't understand. I'm not looking for people to literally join my "team" per se. I'm trying to start a cool open source project, and have people on this forum who will upload stuff and be involved so I can pull all nighters.

@Mychal B- Proof of what I'm capable of? What do you call the entire project as it stands so far? It's not like I havent done anything, it's just that I'm open to other suggestions. Okay? Brick Park may not be what the community wants to program, in which case I want to be involved in what the community wants to program.

EDIT: And this isn't some strange sexual fantasy or extreme fantasy, I'm not that ambitious, it's just an idea for a project! And I already have a thread in the DarkBASIC section, but nobody's posted there, but I have source code and media and a roadmap and everything.

EDIT 2: And it's not just Brick Park. I want you to understand what I want.
Mychal B
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 07:03
By proof I meant pics and such, but that was in the case of if you were trying to start your own team. I believe there is already a community project that's been going on for a while. I'll have to do some snooping

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Fluffy Rabbit
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 07:06 Edited at: 1st Apr 2012 07:08
@Mychal B- Now you have me confused. I'm just curious about the linguistics of it.

Example: Don't start a thread with the phrase "I want". It turns people off. But I kind of want to start the project, and have my name on it. It's not like other people won't have their name on it, after all.

Anyhow, you should certainly do that snooping and tell me what you find, and I'm not just saying that to be polite.

And I want to get involved in it, or something cool as it, tonight!
Mychal B
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 07:13 Edited at: 1st Apr 2012 07:18
ahahahah, how bout you go beg Cumquat

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=187996&b=8

More realistic try: http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=188447&b=8

My bad, the one above is old

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Fluffy Rabbit
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 07:19 Edited at: 1st Apr 2012 07:20
@Mychal B-

Thank you! TheComet is one of my favorite people here! Perfect!

EDIT: What do you mean it's old?
Fluffy Rabbit
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 07:23
I don't want to be a part of someone's little itty bitty DBPro project, and I don't want an assigned position. I want to contribute source to the tree, and have it implemented and fixed. There doesn't even need to be a project leader.
Mychal B
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 07:26
I think the only way that a community project can work well is with assigned positions. Without them how would anyone know what was being worked on or what changed?

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Fluffy Rabbit
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 07:30
@Mychal B-

That is a very good and interesting question. With a source code tree thing. I want to see branches coming out of divergences and convergences in a treelike structure. There will be a main branch, which I will maintain. Latch will be head of bug fixing. Everybody else is just a volunteer, no assigned positions.
Fluffy Rabbit
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 07:34
I want a little of both of these things:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgCuU8DpNG8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j4OPZ1NlKo
Mychal B
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 07:35
When you say volunteer do you mean they choose which branch they want to work on? If so isn't that making them assigned to that branch? If you don't have information of what people are working on which branch, cruical mechanics will be almost certainly left out

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Fluffy Rabbit
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 07:37 Edited at: 1st Apr 2012 07:43
@Mychal B- No, it's just anarchy. Each source code contribution is a divergence, and it converges when it is added to the main branch by me. People can either contribute code segments or the whole source code file.

Here is an example.

Fluffy Rabbit contributes main source file
| \ Cindy C makes it so the main character can turn red
TheComet contributes source file and fixes bug
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Fluffy Rabbit accepts it to main branch
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Johnny adds online multiplayer as a patch
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Fluffy Rabbit adds patch to main branch
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Beta is released?
Mychal B
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 07:46
So you would already have made the fully functional game?

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Fluffy Rabbit
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 07:51
@Mychal B-

That is ambiguous wording, but I have already made the fully functional game, yes, but it needs contributing to!
Mychal B
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 07:55
Just as long as all of the required mechanics are working correctly I can see it happenning

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Fluffy Rabbit
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 08:04
@Mychal B-

Whether it happens or not is not important, it's the theory that's important. What is it with you and mechanics? Are you an engineer?
Jeku
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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 08:19
Is this a joke?

Quote: "Anybody want to join my team, or tell me how to phrase things to get some gullible people on board?"


Have something to show, more than a bunch of double-posting and pie-in-the-sky dreams.


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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 08:19
Team requests

This thread is considered a team request and has been locked.
Whilst threads like this are not outlawed, they must adhere to a strict set of guidelines.

You can review the team request guidelines here: http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=team_requests

AUP Section 3.17 ...Moderators shall, at their discretion, determine what constitutes a violation of these terms, along with generally accepted netiquette standards, and can take action against those who violate these rules.


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Posted: 1st Apr 2012 19:48
Quote: "Forshadowing: The dark cloud of Mooney was approaching the thread closer and closer, minute by minute"


lol?

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