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Geek Culture / MineCraft Servers

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Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 29th May 2012 06:27
Hello to the person reading this message! As some of you may have heard, I am currently in the process of getting a building a new computer! With it I will actually be able to run Minecraft, a big step above my current computer. So I was researching the incredible art of owning your own minecraft sever, and it looks like there are a lot of big security issues involved. What should I be concerned of? Is it good to get my own or should I just go to someone else's? Also, would a server slow down my Internet at all?

Thanks in advance! dark 79 dude basic

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bitJericho
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Posted: 29th May 2012 12:57
Running any kind of server has security implications. If you have a router with port forwarding, and you use it properly, most risks will go away.

As for speed, not really, but your internet use could affect your minecraft server. You should look into and use QoS to help with that. Tomato runs really well for me, and it's QoS implementation seems really good. Should only cost you about 50 bucks to buy a supported router and you'll have a good hobbyist class server router

Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 29th May 2012 13:00
Thank you Mr.President!

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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 30th May 2012 00:27
If you do run a server, be prepared to manage it 100% and have no actual play time. Griefing is the main issue with running a minecraft server, its almost impossible to stop, without taking away playability.
Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 30th May 2012 01:04
Ah! I see.

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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 30th May 2012 12:19
I ran a server for a few months and all I basically did was clean up after griefers, was more a job than an enjoyable hobby xD
Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 30th May 2012 12:24
Ah. So it sounds like it isn't a good idea after all eh?

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Benjamin
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Posted: 30th May 2012 13:30
But griefing is half (or most of) the fun.



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Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 30th May 2012 13:54
No, griefing is exactly 49.92349874297% of the fun. Everyone knows that.

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TheComet
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Posted: 30th May 2012 16:16
Just install factions on your server and say that griefing is allowed. Factions basically let's the users take care of their own griefing issues by being able to protect their stuff by themselves.

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Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 30th May 2012 23:48
Hmm. Interesting...

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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 31st May 2012 01:25
Factions just gives griefers tools to grief people with. They can basically claim land from you and destroy what was there, or go around claiming chunks and making a mess of them.

I've basically tried most anti griefing plugins and I reckon its best to just have friends on your server, or "allow" griefing and turn pvp on.
BiggAdd
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Posted: 31st May 2012 19:48 Edited at: 31st May 2012 19:52
The problem I found isn't griefing, its the cheaters.

I've owned a minecraft server for the past couple of months, and I've yet to actually play minecraft on it.

Every time I go on the server I have to be on the look out for cheating.
It sucks, and the majority of people just don't care. They don't care that you spend time and money to run a server, they'll just cheat anyway. They don't care that it takes you ages (essentially taking away from your enjoyment) to moderate and maintain a server. And some people can start to feel very entitled, they think that because they play on your server, they have the right to do whatever they want and remain on the server.
We've had people try to DOS the server because they were banned. And a user called "Hexicube" posted disgruntled messages in various server threads, after he was banned. He only played on the server for a day...

So my advice? Make a server, but just for your close friends. It will suck less.

Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 31st May 2012 23:42
Ah yes, thank you for the advise! I indeed would only want to make it for my close friends....


So what exactly could the security risks be? Say I only let my close friends play the server. Would there still be large security risks?

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bitJericho
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Posted: 1st Jun 2012 00:18
If all you're running is minecraft, use port forwarding on your router for just the minecraft port, and install a firewall on the server and only open that port. If you do this, there are pretty much no risks except for a security vulnerability in minecraft. If you run minecraft under it's own limited user account, there's no risk except for the minecraft install itself and the port it's hosted on, and only if an exploit is discovered. None currently exist as far as I know.

It would be safer than most things you might do on a computer.

Dark Java Dude 64
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Posted: 1st Jun 2012 00:27
Interesting! Well I suppose I'll consider....

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