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MrValentine
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I meant on mobile lol sorry I should have mentioned...

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Posted: 12th Jan 2013 16:00
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ah right, it works pretty well on my tablet, if you have a tablet that might give you a better experience.
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Waiting for Surface Pro and a decent Win Phone 8

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Posted: 12th Jan 2013 18:00
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Surface pro? you're richer than I am! Well obvious I'm begging for donations lol.
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Posted: 12th Jan 2013 18:16
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Well, I am working overtime this year, about 6-18 months ago I said, 2013 is going to be a big year for me... indeed it appears to be the case, and I aim to hit that mark too...

I have so many projects on hand, that I am slowly adapting a project management tool to my processes... but the last time I logged in was about a week or so ago...

But yeah, I looked at the market and saw I did not want a silly 'Tablet' per se... and the basic Surface would not cut it... I need a portable Desktop and it HAS to have Desktop Windows mode... [DBP / GDK.NET coding on the go yeah!]... hence the only option for me is the Surface Pro... I believe it will feature an i7!

And regarding mobiles... I am fed up with Elgoog and feel they are failing their own products... just my view... and I love Outlook so much that it is frankly the sole reason I am getting a Windows phone 8, as Emails are a key aspect of my life at the moment, given the forum currently plays a massive part in my reading... but I have a plethora of reading outside of here, it must be said...

I am forced to buy at minimum a mac Mini, but I am thinking to aim for a MacBook Pro, as I see little use for wasted devices being brought in, that's what the PSOne and 2 are doing at present... due to lack of a Telly [or S-Video/Component inputs], the reason for the Mac is that I have demand from a key business partner who wishes me to undertake a project targeting iPhone users... and iPad... so looks like I will have to buy one of those too unless my aforementioned partner is able to drop theirs off for a while...

Quote: "you're richer than I am!"


Richer / Poorer, I did not have this thought in my mind when I bought a homeless guy some food the other day on my way home from my shop [Was and still is bloody freezing at the moment here in Manchester] and handed it to him [after asking is he ate chicken first of course]... Money has no value in my eyes, sorry... but that is the fact, I value the views and opinions of those around me, and if I managed to end the day making someone happy, I am satisfied... that is I.

And I value the good nature of others, hence why I look up to you Daniel!

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Posted: 12th Jan 2013 18:26
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Yep the new macbook pro range looks good, plus developing with AppGameKit on a retina display would be a boon. I can't believe how thin that new macbook pro is. I wonder how they ca going to top it next year.

Here's a core i7 Mac, as thin as a credit card!
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Posted: 12th Jan 2013 18:49
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Quote: "Here's a core i7 Mac, as thin as a credit card! "


Really?

Hm, I have no qualms with the devices, just the people running the company...

But thought about getting the MacBook Pro as it will give me something to use just for blogging etc... and then XCODE etc... with a bit of a power kick hopefully... Will be handy to impress new clients too... for some reason many people see designers using a Mac as a sign of superiority... 'sigh'

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Posted: 12th Jan 2013 19:26
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For a long time apples reputation didn't lay in consumer products but media markets and designers. I think a lot of that reputation still remains, though it's a lot less deserved these days. Apples recent decisions to support consumers over the artists who supported them through their less popular days has lead to anger in the industry.

Having said that, garage band on the iPad is pretty astounding. I used omnigraffle on the iPad for some of this books illustration as well. It's the best charting software I've ever used. I can't deny that in terms of quality apps for iPad outstrip both android and windows RT platforms easily. I'd even go so far omnigraffle beats most desktop alternatives.
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Quote: "Having said that, garage band on the iPad is pretty astounding. I used omnigraffle on the iPad for some of this books illustration as well. It's the best charting software I've ever used. I can't deny that in terms of quality apps for iPad outstrip both android and windows RT platforms easily. I'd even go so far omnigraffle beats most desktop alternatives. "


I have no idea what those are.......

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Posted: 16th Jan 2013 00:10
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like whare the book is going... oh and got a copy of your Teach Yourself Game Programming on my Kindel today
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Posted: 16th Jan 2013 08:27
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Thanks cryptojoe.

Chapter 5 - Graphics Primer

Is now online, I hope you all enjoy.
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Posted: 16th Jan 2013 12:14
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Made my contributions, another great section Dan, keep it up, but take your time lol I hope you keep them as short as this one, the previous one was massive! took me about 2-3? hours to go through

This one was not that long, maybe an hour at most...

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Posted: 16th Jan 2013 13:04 Edited at: 16th Jan 2013 13:05
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The next one is 278 A4 pages of pure text.
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Posted: 16th Jan 2013 13:08
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I hate you XD

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Posted: 16th Jan 2013 13:17 Edited at: 16th Jan 2013 13:18
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lol, don't worry it's about 9 pages at the moment, shouldn't be much more than 12 by the time I finish. That will mark the middle of the book, after that I'm writing primer II's and proceeding to the final example.
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Posted: 16th Jan 2013 13:18 Edited at: 16th Jan 2013 13:19
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Haha, good, and you made my day brighter with that post, thanks!

EDIT

Time to get those dishes cleaned

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Posted: 16th Jan 2013 15:04
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@Daniel,

I have made a donation to your project, good luck with the eBook.
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Posted: 16th Jan 2013 15:54
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Thank you, don't forget to send me your google e-mail address if you want early access.
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Posted: 16th Jan 2013 20:25
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I purchased the early access for the ebook and sent you an email with my google email address. Like I mentioned in my email to you, I plan to up it a little later on to have access to the videos.

I purchased AppGameKit when it first came out but figured it was time now to start learning it. I think my problem is I was spoiled by the other languages I develop in like C# since I love OOP. I figure I should still be able to realize a lot of my game ideas with AGK.

Thanks.
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Quote: "I develop in like C#"

C# isn't currently a natively supported language for AGK.

But it does support C++ (and I have been able to do sooooo much more with my game because of OOP).

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Posted: 16th Jan 2013 22:24
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I will probably drop into C++ when the Basic AppGameKit language doesn't meet my needs. I think for my first game it should be fine. The next one will most likely require C++.
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I wanted to ask if the book will eventually cover the upcoming (or even beta) 3D commands? That would be awesome.
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Yes indeed, Tier 1 is purely BASIC but if you have previous C++ experience you can use all that knowledge with Tier 2. However Tier 1 is worth learning if for no other reason than it's a fantastic prototyping tool and Tier 1 code is pretty easy to move from Tier 1 to Tier 2.

Thanks for the donation, I've added you to the google drive system now. It's good timing I'm just writing up the first example for this section, so you'll be getting the first half of the book.
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Posted: 17th Jan 2013 09:45 Edited at: 17th Jan 2013 09:46
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Daniel, your donation rapport seems to be stuck at 45%, even if people keep claiming they donated... hmm.. Is it broken?

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@Impetus73

It's manually created with excel and I've just not updated the graphic, sorry been too busy writing! I've just updated the graphic now. The current pot stands at £299.61 of £599

@StevenP

The 3D side of things will almost certainly turn up in volume 2, if for no other reason then they are not finalized yet. Beta's are always subject to change, and I feel it's better to write around finalized versions of AppGameKit rather than trying to keep up withe beta updates.

But don't worry I'm also excited by 3D commands and as soon as I'm competent with them myself I'll write about it.

@Everyone else!

Chapter six is now online, I hope you enjoy it. This brings the middle of the book to a close.

Chapter Six: Program course I is now online.
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I'm not able to access the drive. I resent my gmail address to the email address I got from the "Donation Accepted" email. I must have sent it to the wrong one originally.
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Thanks! I have access now.
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Made my contributions... you are improving Dan

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I am? Naw not possible. I'm already perfect.

Thanks for your submissions.
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OK, Daniel, glad to see the contributions did not stop, haha

I'll add another contribution in feb. I guess you'll be fully funded by may this year. (I'll make sure of that!)

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Thanks Impetus73.

I've expanded Chapter 4's section on REM statements to include commenting blocks of text and using symbols instead of the commands.
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Hi Daniel, I have donated for your project. I'm glad that u have this idea. Everyone just donate a little money and can get the thing which have to take a lot of man hours to create. Win win situation.
Do u interested to create Tiled map loader for AppGameKit Tier 2 after finish this project ? or who interested ?
AGK is lack of the Tiled map loader.
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Thank you, I've added you to the google docs list.
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Posted: 25th Jan 2013 11:32 Edited at: 25th Jan 2013 11:32
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Chapters 7

and

Chapter 8

are now online.
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Made my contributions... I apologise for the humour... >_<

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I gave Chapters 1 & 2 a quick look-over and I like the simplicity. I'll dive deeper when I have more time.

I saw you are planning HD tutorials and have a request. Can you please subtitle them for the deaf/hard of hearing like myself? I have come across many instructional video without any form of captioning, and have been completely lost.

Cheers for this project. I'll add more to the pot next month.
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Its an interesting idea, to be honest I've never captioned before but I'll look into it.
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Posted: 30th Jan 2013 22:13 Edited at: 31st Jan 2013 01:26
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Chapter 9 - Dividing and modularising your program is now online.

The first 3/4th's of it are completed drafts I've just got to add a section on multiple files and it's done.
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Donated, email sent!

I'm new. I bring cats for all.
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Thank you, I've added you to the google system.

Good timing too, Chapter 10 is now live.
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Chapter 11 is now online
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The end is in sight!

There will be another five Primer II chapters. This will be followed by the Program Course II chapter.

I will then add a Reference section, this will cover the following.

Platform specific instructions.

1) Android compile instructions
2) Google play submission instructions
3) Windows installer instructions (Based on NSIS install scripting engine)
4) MacOS instructions (if funding achieved, if not this will be planned as an update to the book in future.
5) iOS instructions (if funding reached, if not will be added as update in future)

All source code examples compiled and organised with brief explanation.
Complete game code for Phase I and II for reference.
List of functions
List of types and identifiers
List of device resolutions
Keystate codes
Additional notes
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Looking forward to all that!

I will continue to make notes on the current books, but got 15 new threads to peruse tonight, then to the hay stack

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WOW. You've been quite busy! I'll have to give this a look-see later.
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Chapter 12 is now online
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Made my contributions up to Chapter 12!

Hope they were worth the commenting

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Once again thank you for the donations and time put into helping out.

Chapter 13 is now online.

Just for amusements sake I recorded 3 hours of the 7 hour writing frenzy and compressed it down to a one and a half minute video with a musical overture. Hope you enjoy!

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The Video is Private

And you are welcome

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Fixed.

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Chapter 13, done and dusted, thanks and that video was ace

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