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Eric T
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Posted: 18th Nov 2003 17:24
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1. Blitz 3d Runs on DirectX 7, while DBP runs on 8.1 (9 with U5), thus there is a speed difference. This is what has turned me away from Blitz.

2. Blitz 3d is $100 US currency, while you can DBP for that much.

3. Speed in Blitz and Darkbasic really depend on the user and PC, BUT i have found DB to be somewhat faster in instances of higher Poly models.

4. The Blitz Error checking system has it's errors, but it still works.

5. Blitz has a very Sh*tty help system, it requires you to have some understanding of the basic language, and programming.

6. Blitz is an electronic Download only, so you won't have a CD or instruction/refrence manuals.


Thats all i can think of.

In the end it is down to personal opinion what you want. My opinion ended up being DarkBASIC.

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Chris K
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Posted: 18th Nov 2003 17:54
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Quote: "I love BlitzBASIC - Adolf Hitler"


I think that settles that.

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ReD_eYe
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Posted: 18th Nov 2003 18:12
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lol, i tried it and disliked it so ran as fast as i can, (pretty fast actually)back to dark basic!


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Posted: 18th Nov 2003 18:17
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LOL!
I actually do like Blitz. It is very well organized. Both Blitz and DB are great tools. Both have there advantages/disadvantages and I have no real preference except the many hours that I have put in with DB as compared to the handful that I have with Blitz.

I await my hanging for blasphemy.....

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Chris K
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Posted: 18th Nov 2003 18:19
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Quote: "Rule 5 - No Nazis in the DarkBASIC forums"


From Rich himself.

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Rob K
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Posted: 18th Nov 2003 20:03
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Quote: " Blitz has a very Sh*tty help system,"


Has its compensations though - it is easier to navigate between commands, each command has full parameter details and there are examples with most commands.

Blitz has a lot going for it, but it is harder for newbies, and less technologically advanced. Though to be honest, nobody has yet really pushed either package.


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Posted: 18th Nov 2003 20:31
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It is scientifically proven that using BlitzBASIC causes testicular cancer and that DarkBASIC improves your sex life.

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Rob K
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Posted: 18th Nov 2003 22:51
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Quote: "DarkBASIC improves your sex life"


In other news the mods were arrested for distributing copious amounts of crack to forum users...


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Posted: 18th Nov 2003 22:55
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Quote: "copious"


Haven't heard that since the 1800s

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Posted: 18th Nov 2003 23:21
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"Haven't heard that since the 1800s"

really? my friends and i use "copious" all the time of course we're nerds.

you can still do some nice stuff with DX7; you'll just be missing out on shaders. IMO DX8 is, right now, the best.. most people have it and it supports shaders (and the new DX8 model format). DX9 .. i really don't see what's so great about it. you want to see what's now in DX9?

Quote: "Vertex streams now created with a declaration.
Changes to vertex shaders and vertex stream declaration binding.
Added a limited form of flow control to version 2.0 vertex shaders.
Added a scissor test.
Added line antialiasing.
Added support for sphere map texture generation mode.
Added support for displacement maps.
Improved device enumeration support."


from the DX9 help file. i really don't see much groundbreaking stuff in there. oooh line antialiasing, i know i'll be using that a lot. about the only thing that might be interesting is the displacement map.

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Posted: 18th Nov 2003 23:26
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Quote: "we're nerds"


Wow. Real-life nerds.

Do you speak in binary?

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01000001-01101110-01100100-00100000-01110111-01101000-01100001-01110100-00100000-01101001-01100110-00100000-01001001-00100000-01100100-01101111-00111111

Copious is a great work. I use it all the time.

--Mouse: Famous (Avatarless) Fighting Furball

A very nice %it, indeed.
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Quote: "01000001-01101110-01100100-00100000-01110111-01101000-01100001-01110100-00100000-01101001-01100110-00100000-01001001-00100000-01100100-01101111-00111111"


No need to get offensive.

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Posted: 19th Nov 2003 01:14 Edited at: 19th Nov 2003 01:15
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Quote: "really? my friends and i use "copious" all the time of course we're nerds."


Really? All the people at the UK convention were just alcoholics

Quote: "Haven't heard that since the 1800s"

Quote: "we're nerds."


You'll be telling me you don't read /. next

Quote: "No need to get offensive."


Any more language like that and I will have to $AF3251C0 the thread


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Blitz is only a download so no manual/ box etc? Must be a packet of cornflakes on my shelf then....

Cheers

I am 99% probably lying in bed right now... so don't blame me for crappy typing
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Team EOD :: Programmer/Storyboard Assistant
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Ian T
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Psst, that's real text guys, translate it

--Mouse: Famous (Avatarless) Fighting Furball

A very nice %it, indeed.
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Posted: 19th Nov 2003 02:45 Edited at: 19th Nov 2003 06:23
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"And what if I do?"

It's like playing those Math puzzle games in Primary school where you have to find the answer to a riddle by doing complex Mathematical equations.

01001000-01100101-01111001-00100000-01001101-01101111-01110101-01110011-01100101-00101100-00100000-01001001-00100000-01101000-01100001-01110110-01100101-00100000-01101100-01100101-01100001-01110010-01101110-01100101-01100100-00100000-01110100-01101000-01100101-00100000-01110111-01100001-01111001-00100000-01101111-01100110-00100000-01111001-01101111-01110101-01110010-00100000-01110000-01100101-01101111-01110000-01101100-01100101-00100001


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01010101-00100000-01011100-00101111-01011100-00101111-00110001-01001100-01001100-00100000-01001110-00110011-01010110-01000000-01010010-00100000-01000010-00110011-00100000-00110001-00110011-00110011-00110111-00100000-01010101-01111100-01011100-01111100-00101011-00110001-01001100-00100000-01010101-00100000-01010010-00100000-01010100-00110011-01001000-00100000-01010101-01000010-00110011-01010010-00101100-00100000-00110011-01011000-00110011-01000000-00101011-00100001

Oh....

42-65-73-69-64-65-73-2C-20-74-72-61-6E-73-6C-61-74-65-20-74-68-69-73-2E

--Mouse: Famous (Avatarless) Fighting Furball

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01001111-00100000-01000111-01010010-00110011-01000000-01010100-00100000-00110000-01001110-00110011-00101100-00100000-01010100-00110011-00110100-01000011-01111100-00101101-01111100-00100000-01001101-00110011-00100000-01010100-01001000-00110011-00100000-01010111-01000000-01011001-00110101-00100000-00110000-01000110-00100000-01010100-01001000-00110011-00100000-00110001-00110011-00110011-00110111-00100001-00100001-00100001


Quote: "Besides. translate this."


Hex is no harder, but I'm lazy


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What the hell?

I leave this thread for a minute and when I come back everyone's speaking in binary.

Curse you, and you're monodigital language.

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Quote: "Really? All the people at the UK convention were just alcoholics"

Speak for yourself...

Chris - its a binary choice you know...

Apologies to those who have completed Max Payne 2 yet either...


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2.

Ha.

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01000011-01101000-01110010-01101001-01110011-00100000-01100001-01101001-01101110-01110100-00100000-01100011-01101111-01101111-01101100-00100000-01100101-01101110-01101111-01110101-01100111-01101000-00100000-01110100-01101111-00100000-01101011-01101110-01101111-01110111-00100000-01110100-01101000-01100101-00100000-01110100-01100001-01101100-01101011-00100000-01101111-01100110-00100000-01110100-01101000-01100101-00100000-01101100-00110011-00110011-01110100-00100001

heheh


Edit: Here's a small App I made to convert Binary to English and Englih to Binary lol: http://ep.designex.net/Misc/ISpeakBinary.zip - Now no one feels left out. It also has to be the format myself and Mouse have been using.


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01011001-01101111-01110101-01110010-00100000-01100001-01101100-01101100-00100000-01101110-01110101-01110100-01110011-00101110-00100000-00100000-01001001-00100000-01110011-01110101-01100111-01100111-01100101-01110011-01110100-00100000-01111001-01101111-01110101-00100000-01100101-01101001-01110100-01101000-01100101-01110010-00100000-01110011-01110100-01101111-01110000-00100000-01100100-01110010-01101001-01101110-01101011-01101001-01101110-01100111-00100000-01010010-01100101-01100100-00100000-01000010-01110101-01101100-01101100-00100000-00101000-01101111-01110010-00100000-01110000-01100101-01110010-01101000-01100001-01110000-01110011-00100000-01100011-01101111-01100110-01100110-01100101-01100101-00101001-00100000-01101111-01110010-00100000-01100111-01101111-00100000-01101111-01101110-00100000-01100001-00100000-01101000-01101111-01101100-01101001-01100100-01100001-01111001-00100000-00101101-00100000-01001001-00100000-01110100-01101000-01101001-01101110-01101011-00100000-01111001-01101111-01110101-00100000-01101110-01100101-01100101-01100100-00100000-01101001-01110100-00101110



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Hey. I like my large variety of letters.

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hehe
01101000-01100001-01101000-01100001-00100000-01100011-01101000-01110010-01101001-01110011-00100000-01101001-01110011-00100000-01100111-01101111-01101110-01101110-01100001-00100000-01100111-01100101-01110100-00100000-01100001-00100000-01110011-01101000-01101111-01100011-01101011-00100000-01110111-01101000-01100101-01101110-00100000-01101000-01100101-00100000-01100110-01101001-01101110-01100001-01101100-01101100-01111001-00100000-01100100-01101111-01110111-01101110-01101100-01101111-01100001-01100100-01110011-00100000-01110100-01101000-01100101-00100000-01100010-01101001-01101110-01100001-01110010-01111001-00100000-01100011-01101111-01101110-01110110-01100101-01110010-01110100-01100101-01110010-00100000-01100001-01101110-01100100-00100000-01110010-01100101-01100001-01101100-01101001-01110011-01100101-01110011-00100000-01100101-01110110-01100101-01110010-01111001-01101111-01101110-01100101-00100000-01101000-01100001-01110011-00100000-01100010-01100101-01100101-01101110-00100000-01100011-01100001-01101100-01101100-01101001-01101110-01100111-00100000-01101000-01101001-01101101-00100000-01100001-00100000-01100110-01101111-01101111-01101100-00101110-00100000-01000010-01111001-00100000-01110100-01101000-01100101-00100000-01110111-01100001-01111001-00100001-00100001-00100001-00100000-01101001-00100000-01100111-01100101-01110100-00100000-01100001-00100000-01110010-01110101-01101110-01110100-01101001-01101101-01100101-00100000-01100101-01110010-01110010-01101111-01110010-00100000-01100011-01101111-01101110-01110110-01100101-01110010-01110100-01101001-01101110-01100111-00100000-01100010-01101001-01101110-01100001-01110010-01111001-00100000-01110100-01101111-00100000-01100001-01110011-01100011-01101001-01101001-00100000-01110011-01101111-00100000-01100110-01101001-01111000-00100000-01101001-01110100-00100000-01100100-01100001-01101101-01101110-00100000-01101001-01110100-00100001-00100001-00100001-00100000-01111001-01101111-01110101-01110010-00100000-01110011-01101001-01101110-01100011-01100101-01110010-01101100-01100101-01111001-00100000-01010010-01100101-01000100-01011111-01100101-01011001-01100101


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They didn't say I was a fool.

Just I wasn't cool enough to know you're language.

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01011001-01100101-01110011-00101100-00100000-01110100-01101000-01100101-00100000-01110010-01110101-01101110-00101101-01110100-01101001-01101101-01100101-00100000-01100101-01110010-01110010-01101111-01110010-00100000-01101001-01110011-00100000-01110110-01100101-01110010-01111001-00100000-01100001-01101110-01101110-01101111-01111001-01101001-01101110-01100111-00100000-00101101-00100000-01110011-01100101-01100101-01101101-01110011-00100000-01110011-01101111-01101101-01100101-01101111-01101110-01100101-00100000-01100100-01101111-01100101-01110011-01101110-00100111-01110100-00100000-01110100-01100101-01110011-01110100-00100000-01110100-01101000-01100101-01101001-01110010-00100000-01110000-01110010-01101111-01100111-01110010-01100001-01101101-01110011-00100000-01110000-01110010-01101111-01110000-01100101-01110010-01101100-01111001-00101100-00100000-01100101-01101000-00100000-00111111-00100000-00100000-01000001-01101110-01111001-01101000-01101111-01101111-00101100-00100000-01110011-01110100-01101111-01110000-00100000-01110000-01101001-01100011-01101011-01101001-01101110-01100111-00100000-01101111-01101110-00100000-01000011-01101000-01110010-01101001-01110011-01110011-01111001-00100000-00101000-01110011-01101111-01110010-01110010-01111001-00101100-00100000-01001001-00100000-01101101-01100101-01100001-01101110-00100000-01000011-01101000-01110010-01101001-01110011-00101001-00100000-00101101-00100000-01101001-01110100-01110011-00100000-01101110-01101111-01110100-00100000-01110110-01100101-01110010-01111001-00100000-01101110-01101001-01100011-01100101-00101110-00101110-00101110-00001101-00001010


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Yeah. Lets just stop it.

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Quote: "people this binary speak is nearly as bad as that script kiddie language.. oh how do they say it... 1337 3p34k or sumthin."


lol, but we were 1337 speaking within Binary, certainly that must be cool.

When's the runtime error occur? I believe it will happen when you enter anything other then the Binary Format, i.e: 8 numbers then a dash. Letters or enters will make it runtime.


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What does 1337 mean?

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1337 = l33t = leet = elite

Stupid script kiddy crap. Apparently hackers are 'elite', and little kids who want to be like them talk in numbers, eg: 1 AM 0N3 1337 /\/\0F0!

It's stupid never-the-less.


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-01000101-01110010-01101001-01100011

(i didn't wanna be left out, that and just wanted to test the translator..)

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The most important part is "stop"

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So, you dont want us to carry on speaking in binary? How about hexidecimal ? Octal ? Base 26 ? Flag waving ?


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Yeah, like that Monty Python scetch: The complete works of Shakespeare, in cemaphor

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peaksay niay igpay atinlay


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Ok.




Wait, no. We're not ten year old girls.

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If you say so...


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[ ]

Already have - compressed into a small space too...


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Quote: "I confess I looked at Blitz3D"


Quote: "[ ]"


Isn't it funny how sooner or later every thread descends into this.

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Yea, it's kinda sad. How the heck did a post about blitz turn into binary code?

Guess we're traveling backwards.



A book? I hate book. Book is stupid.
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Can someone please tell me when the runtime error appears?


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Do a binary to ascii conversion, and then you get the message.


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We could speak in whitespace! (For those who don't know, whitespace is a programming language consisting entirely of ... whitespace (eg tabs, spaces & carriage returns)

Not sure how you are supposed to pronounce tabs or carriage returns though (maybe "click....wheeeeeeee...ping!")


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Oh, so it happens EVERY time? Strange, never appears for me. lol, must look into it. Probably some OCX or DLL that's needed.


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Quote: "girly pink littlefoot"


I like it.

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okay, all bow and grovel in the dirt before big-half head hairy-nose chief eyed gangle foot!!

All shake and quiver at my name!!!

I got best and fairest for soccer WHOOHOOO!
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Its in bold.
You just can't compete with that.

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