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Scraggle
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Hi Rob

A couple of question about backups:

1) Does BlueIDE make automatic backups of source code like the original IDE?
2) Could you please change your Open Dialog so that we can open backups

Today I had the misfortune of needing te revert to a backup of my current project and found that I couldn't do it from within BlueIDE so I was forced to go back to the original.
When I did get the backup open I noticed it was a very old one which made me think that maybe BlueIDE doesn't auto-backup ... am I right?

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Posted: 28th Dec 2003 15:18 Edited at: 28th Dec 2003 15:18
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BlueIDE doesn't do auto-backups yet, its one of the main features I need to add in for the next version.

You can get backups into BlueIDE though, right click in the code window and from the popup menu select File/Path > Insert File Contents, then select the .bak file you wish to load.


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Hi Rob,

Its your Win98SE user here

I just downloaded and installed Beta2b, when I loaded up a project and hit compile I got an error saying a require .DLL wasn't present, the file it was after was the exe filename for my project!? This only happenend once so far. This is from loading an existing DBP project, not a New Project in your IDE.

I'm also getting a compiler error dialog in the background saying "CFileBuilder:AddPCKtoEXE", this is random between using the icon, the menu and the shortcuts. Actually, this seems to only occur if I have a) a hardcoded full path to my media in the mode, or b) the media attached via the Media Files, if I have the models in the same directory as the project (and I load them without specifying a path so it assumes cd) then its ok so far. The project settings are on "Normal Executable" and I'm using DBP 5.1b btw.

Some other issues...

- when I load a project the scroll bar/cursor should return to the top?

- when you hit Add in the media panel can the default location be the location of the current (as apposed to previous) project?

- using the media browser, after I've displayed the model info (while rotating) and I zoom in and out a bit I get a error dialog "Unable to load file - Unknown type"

The compile and when you close your app and return to the editor is well speedy though, cool.

Thanks in advance,
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Quote: "I just downloaded and installed Beta2b, when I loaded up a project and hit compile I got an error saying a require .DLL wasn't present, the file it was after was the exe filename for my project!?"


Could you post a screenshot of the error if it happens again?

Quote: "'m also getting a compiler error dialog in the background saying "CFileBuilder:AddPCKtoEXE", this is random between using the icon, the menu and the shortcuts"


Can you send me an email with a screenshot of the error and a copy of the .dbpro file (not the .dba source files).

Quote: "- when I load a project the scroll bar/cursor should return to the top?"


Fixed.

Quote: "- when you hit Add in the media panel can the default location be the location of the current (as apposed to previous) project?"


Fixed.

Quote: "using the media browser, after I've displayed the model info (while rotating) and I zoom in and out a bit I get a error dialog "Unable to load file - Unknown type""


This might happen if you accidentally click on the "<" or ">" buttons, but really they should be disabled by default.


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Hi,

Just sent you an email Rob, thanks for fixing the other issues, and for the last one, yes I was accidentally clicking those buttons.

Cheers.
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Posted: 31st Dec 2003 14:45 Edited at: 31st Dec 2003 14:59
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[Edit] Wrong thread - I will put it where it should be - sorry [/Edit]

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Hi folks - quick useability question:

I have added VS6-style drop down file and function lists just above the tab names. Should the function list show all functions or just those from the current include?


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just the current include IMHO

one more thing...is it possible to keep the code positioned where it is when going from tab to tab? If you are half way down the code, go to another tab and come back, it's gone back to the top again.

FYI: I use this code editor 100% of the time now - fantastic work!

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Lopve to offer my opinion but I'm a DPB onlny man - don't knoe much about VS6

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I agree, the current include is what you would expect and you've still got the full function list anyway so you'd just be repeating it if you had them all in the drop down as well. Not to mention it would get awfully messy with larger projects.

The update looks good so far and fixes a lot of annoying bugs, thanks. Look forward to the next major release.

One more suggestion, maybe you could improve the media browser even more by allowing people to play the objects animations and set different object properties (like lighting, ambient, transparency, etc).


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Rob K:
LuuuuV your editor! Much easier to use than the one that came with DBPro!

Would be nice:
* I would like to auto capitalize my keywords instead of lowercase them (how about an option to do it either way)?
* if you declare a variable, the case of the letters would be changed to what the declaration said. Ex:
nCount AS INTEGER
I type: "ncount = 1"
editor would change it to: "nCount = 1" just like VB IDE!

I like the list of functions, labels, etc. much easier to find stuff. and so far, when an error happens, it seems to highlight the proper line where the error happened! yea!

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Posted: 1st Jan 2004 08:08 Edited at: 1st Jan 2004 10:59
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I like autocapitalising of keywords/variables as well, especially as darkbasic has no option explicit.

Also it would be nice if the code editor would be active when the ide starts up so I can start typeing straight away.

Also how about a button/menu item that opens the current project dir in an explorer window.

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Is there a way to close the compileing executable window from the keyboard other than alt+f4

Also when I run this code in blue ide the console window never shows up, it shows up if I run the compiled exe in explorer or if using the original ide.


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Posted: 1st Jan 2004 13:47 Edited at: 1st Jan 2004 14:14
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Quote: "I like autocapitalising of keywords"


I thought that's what the "Fixup Text Case while typing language keywords" option was for.


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Quote: "I thought that's what the "Fixup Text Case while typing language keywords" option was for."

Try it, it turns the whole command to caps.

In vb
dim aString as string is converted to
Dim aString As String
and when ever you use astring in the code it's converted to the case which it had when dimed, so
astring = "" is converted to
aString = ""

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Oooh, yeah, I agree, I was just thinking about suggesting that myself after using VB 5 minutes ago lol.


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yup! in VB i declare all my variable and one or more characters is capitalized. when i use the variable in the code, i type it in lower case. I know i put in the proper name if the case of some of the characters changes to caps! handy!

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Posted: 1st Jan 2004 18:17 Edited at: 1st Jan 2004 18:24
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Dammit. Some of my source got corrupted, which put me back to beta2b release + a few days.

Anyhow, experimental fixup case added. As long as a variable is declared using local,global and/or dim keywords, if the variable is recognised it is briefly highlighted and adjusted to the correct case if the case is wrong.

The reason why "Fixup Case..." under Code Window Settings puts everything in upper case is because thats how it is in the keywords files.

@Granada

Quote: "Also how about a button/menu item that opens the current project dir in an explorer window."


Click the "Open Project Folder" link on the Project tab.

The reason why your console app does not show is a bug in BlueIDE, programs were run minimized by default. Now changed to SW_SHOWNORMAL.


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Very small bug: If and EndIf are scope keywords like they should, however, Else is coloured as a regular keyword.

'End' is also no longer classified as a keyword at all.


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@Exeat - Will look into that.

Added a couple of experimental features (you will be able to turn them off if you don't like them).
- On-the-fly checking: Checks for mistakes such as unclosed strings and irregular brace count when you go to a new line, highlights the previous line and displays an error message - prevents you encountering the error after a 60 second compile.
- Auto-Loop Completion. Type the start of a loop on one line, hit return and the end of the loop will be added automatically, as I always forget to close loops/branches or forget what variable was used in a nested FOR loop.


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Hi Rob.

Looking good!

However, I have found two more things that you might want to look at.

1) OR isn't recognised as a keyword.

2) If you split the code window in two, when you compile, the lower window returns to the start of the code.

Other than that, this had now become my editor of choice - Bravo! (as they say here in Cyprus)

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Hi Scraggle,

Thanks for those reports.

Added a simple online help system. In the help window, there is a link which allows you to view online help for that command (in the help window). Its a simple post comments / examples / code type setup very much like the online PHP manual. You don't need to register or anything like that to post comments.

I'm hoping that this will mean that common problems (for example, people wondering why SPRITE COLLISION doesn't do pixel perfect collision and where they can look for something that does) can be commented on and others can view them.

Similarly tips on performance etc. could also be posted.


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Hi Rob,

Did you have any luck with my compile issues/errors?

Also I thought of something to possibly add, that I would personally find handy - not sure about everyone else.?. I would like a way to color sections of the code. Not the text, and not syntax highlighting, but either the line count column, or the background of the text for a set number of lines. The reason being I would find it useful to put a marker against different types of code, for example, collision code, camera code, movement code. Basic chunks. e.g lines 022 to 035 are collision code, so are lines 101 to 123, I'd like to mark them somehow. I hope I've explained it ok! I've not seen it in another editor. I've ended up some some projects over 1000 lines now and I use comments/line-breaks to seperate the main code objects. Color would be nicer and the bg of the line count column seems ideal, what do you think? You could configure colors with labels so when you hover in the line count column you get the label appearing maybe.

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Hi Lampton,

Not until I can test BlueIDE on a Windows 98 PC, which seems to be the cause of the troubles.
Interesting idea re colouring text, although I would personally put the code in different includes and/or functions.



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I like the idea of colour for different sections of code, that would help me a lot!

If you can do it Rob then it certainly gets my vote!

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Hi Rob,

Ah, well if I can run a debug version or something to help out let me know. Althought to be honest its probably only a matter or months before I upgrade to XP (need a small H/W upgrade first), don't know how many 98 users ya have 'part from me.

Btw, I currently use functions and includes, but I don't find them ideal for everything, especially when I'm testing stuff out and code is easier to debug all expanded and in blocks.

@Scraggle, glab I'm not the only one who'd find it handy

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I've added horizontal divider lines between functions, colouring blocks is a good idea - but I need to modify the C++ CodeSense editing component (as a C++ newbie that could take a while)

@LamtonWorm

I have made some internal changes which should help can you send me your email address, so I can email debug versions to you if needbe.


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Wasn't your GUI plugin done in C++?


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Rob!!!!

Uninstalled last version, d/loaded beta2b and got...

Please Insert Disk 2

...after it had installed browse.exe.

Back on old version for now.

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I had that once before as well, I just kept redownloading until it eventually worked. My guess was that Rob was uploading a new version at the time I tried downloading. Anyway, I just downloaded again and tried and the setup worked for me.

P.S. That's one hell of a fast server you have their Rob, it downloaded the full 7.73mb in 1 second on my cable modem!!!


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Rob, can you make it so that blueIDE uses the regular keyword file instead of having its own. The twilight IDE doesn't like your keywords file for some reason


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@Wik

For reasons of speed BlueIDE creates its own, generated from the regular keywords file. Its in exactly the same format, but the duplicates etc. are removed. It prevents the IDE from having to scan through the keywords on every startup (which can take 5 or more seconds on slower PCs - whilst Borland might think this acceptable, I don't)

Download a newer version of Twilight and it should work (Glenn fixed this already I think).

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No, its written in Delphi (Pascal)


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Ahh, that makes more sense then.


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Would it be possible to expand the code library funtionality. Something like an expandable tree view. So i can have top level folders like "Math Function" and "Mesh Functions", then click on them and expand them out to a list of available code snippets for a particular subject.
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@AramusM

Already working on it (I did have folders implemented but I lost that code)

@All
Spent a while bug-fixing last night - the priority for version 1.0.0, but I was also able to add some new features:

- RGB Colour Picker
- Help search (for the standard DBPro help system, works for plugins as well)
- Configureable backup - You can set whether to backup on save, on compile, and/or at regular intervals, plus you can set the location where backups are saved.
- New Add Resource dialog supports wildcards.
- #assert command (Non C++ users can find an explanation in the accompanying help files).


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Hi Rob, sorry if this has been covered but does your IDE support the DBP PowerTools plugin? In particular the additions to the "right click" menu, such as ram recovery.

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It doesn't support the PowerTools plugin yet, I will look up the plugin interface for the default IDE on DBDN. It might be possible to implement them.


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Don't know if you know about this one, the help window horizontal scroll bar is only half visible.

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Fixed


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Version 1.0.0? Soon?

I'm salivating here...

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Hi Rob,

just done a clean install, and got the message
Runtime error 9: Subscript Out of Range

After this, the interface fails to resize the controls, the tabs are all named "Tab0", "Tab1" etc.. All of the toolbar buttons and options are there, but they don't do anything.

A couple of relevant bits from the machine I installed on:
Win2K SP3
Full Microsoft Office suite 2002 with VBA

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Try loading up again.

If a runtime error occurs when the form loads, the Form_Load procedure is exited before everything is finished (I haven't set ignore errors on yet as I still need to debug the software)

Failing that, can I email you an updated blue.exe for testing?


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D/loading now (at ~400K/sec - what kind of server have you got!?!)

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Hi Rob,

I've downloaded 3 times, installed 3 times, no luck.

Send me a new exe to devink at blueyonder.co.uk and I'll happily test it for you.

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Just a final check - after uninstalling BlueIDE, can you delete the program folder in case there are any left-over files (C:\Program Files\Programming\BlueIDE). Also, could you list the contents of your %DBProInstallFolder%\Editor\Keywords dir please?


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@Rob

I'm not a fan of 'double posting' so instead I will ask you to take a look at this link if you dont mind and then tell me what you think.

Have a look at my third post in the link below:
http://darkbasicpro.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=23352&b=1

Could you do it do you think?

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Its possible. However, getting the preprocessor to do it is a fairly long-winded hack, plus it could add to the compile time.

Optional function parameters are Lee Bamber's job. Hope you won't be offended if I go with Drake on this one and leave it out.


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Posted: 8th Jan 2004 13:10 Edited at: 8th Jan 2004 13:54
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OK fella - no problem. Just thought I'd ask.

Meanwhile, I have found another snag for you to take a look at:
I had BlueIDE open and PowerDVD at the same time. When I closed PowerDVD, BlueIDE closed with it, without giving me the option to save first.

I tried to recreate it and got the same results everytime.

Scraggle.

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Funky...


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I'm pretty sure its a bug in PowerDVD.

BlueIDE creates an invisible window which is uses to track compiler progress / line numbers & get error message feedback. When that window closes, BlueIDE closes with it. PowerDVD is probably closing this window by mistake (eg: if they have the same class name coincidentally)


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Thanks, I'll make sure I don't use both of them together in future. It cost me a couple of hours work.

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