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Beavis
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When I upgraded to RC 1.00 then I got runtime error 13 when I start up IDE.

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Hi Beavis,

Can you set the IDE into debug mode and let me know what messages you receive (see page 4 for details on how to do this).


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I switched back to beta2 version to test IDE. Tommorow I try instal RC 1.00 again and send you debug info.

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Hi Rob

Good to see that you have included cursors in V1.0.0RC unfortunately I can't get them to work.

I was having a problem with them in the original IDE and posted a thread about it. I did get them working with a little help. However, I can't get them to work in your IDE. I have put the .cur files in the exe folder and then into media side panel but when I try CHANGE MOUSE the mouse disappears!

Also, they don't save with project.

Thanks

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I was messing around with the Project Organization stuff, and when I try to delete a note, I get the error "Run-Time Error '35600' Index Out Of Bounds". The IDE proceededly dies. I am currently running the test RC 1.00.

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Hi folks,

- Fixed cursor problems
- Fixed crash when trying to delete notes
- Non-lowercase endfunction/exitfunction statements were not ignored when searching for functions. Now fixed.
- Added more debug messages for Beavis and IanM, please run the program again and tell me what the last message is that you see.

Please re-download RC 1.0.0.
The original editor's implementation of cursors and the help files disagree. I have decided to go with what the help files say. ie. The first cursor in the list can be used by doing CHANGE MOUSE 2.

I'd like to see more posts in the online comments system - There is no need to register, and you don't have to post a genuine email address. If you have advice / suggestions / examples regarding commands that other people would benefit from, please post them.


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Yeah, I was going to see if anything happened with the other Online Help System before I started posting comments. Just in case we lost all our comments or something but if you're sure this is going to stay then I guess I'll start posting!


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phpMyAdmin allows me to create backups of the db or move the comments somewhere else if needbe, so they won't be lost.


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The last message that I get is 'Loaded keywords data into memory, parsing ...'

If you want to speed up the debugging, just email or MSN me

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I just noticed something minor. When the Ide is maximized in my 1280*1024 resolution screen, the left and right edges are just off the screen abit. As said, nothing major! Elsewise, seems to be running fine. Quite nice!

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I've noticed that if, for example, you move the cursor onto the next line of a do command, it will automatically insert a loop command - it should really check to see if there is one already present on the same level.

Secondly, the save command always requests a filename - which is odd when it knows the files filename.


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Quote: "I've noticed that if, for example, you move the cursor onto the next line of a do command, it will automatically insert a loop command - it should really check to see if there is one already present on the same level."


The check for that proved rather time consuming and not to reliable. If you have auto-loop enabled, and you do not want the loop to be completed when you press Return after typing in "DO" for example, hold the Ctrl key down when you press Return.

Quote: "Secondly, the save command always requests a filename - which is odd when it knows the files filename."


Shouldn't do. Do you mean using the Save button on the toolbar?


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Yes, the one in the File menu option.


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Posted: 25th Jan 2004 11:06
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Hi RobK

After a bit of procrastination I have upgraded to RC1.0.0. Great work! Really impressive as usual. Wish I had the skill to write a full fledged IDE. I've included a couple of points I've noticed so far below.

Bug report:

1. well, this one is more of a feature - when you save a *.dba file using the disk icon the vertical slider bar appears to reset to 0, i.e. the top of the screen.

2. continuing the saga of the absolute v relative paths, I find that I get a Failed to 'UnfoldIncludes' error even with relative paths if I have more than one #include command in my first *.dba file. My file reads like this:

#include "display.dba"
#include "random.dba"
#include "setup.dba"
#include "player.dba"
#include "cleanup.dba"
#include "graphics.dba"
#include "threeDmaths.dba"
#include "lensflare.dba"
#include "keyboard.dba"
#include "joystick.dba"
#include "screenshot.dba"
#include "colours.dba"
#include "scanner.dba"
#include "spacestations.dba"
#include "spaceships.dba"
#include "system.dba"
#include "localmap.dba"
#include "camera.dba"
#include "options.dba"
#include "debug.dba"

If I rem out all but the first #include (display.dba) then the compiler gets past the #include and understandably fails when it tries to check functions() called from the other *.dba files. But if I put all the remmed out #include *.dba files back in again then the compiler fails back at the Failed to Unfoldincludes. Very strange. Not to worry though. My workaround is that I am using the IDE to code in and the original editor is being used to compile.

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1. any chance of having an option to put the names of global and local variables in different colours? Please please?

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Posted: 25th Jan 2004 12:27
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The cursor is fighting me when I type in endif and hit return. It doesn't want to go left lol! I press the left arrow and it moves left and then back right again. I imagine this is related to the if/endif and loop completion functionality (which I like btw).

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Hi Philip,
Hi Philip,

This was originally designed to make it easier to insert new lines after the end of loops - however I think I might have to make this a seperate option.

I suggest that you use the includes list on the Project tab rather than the #include command. If you use the #include command, the IDE cannot get the right error line when a syntax error occurs for example. Use the BROWSE button to add existing include files to the list.


@TCA

Are you sure you didn't click the Save As option? - Try using the button on the toolbar instead of the one on the File menu, does it make any difference?


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It happens when you dont have a project setup, and you just save the DBA file - both saving options do exactly the same.

Eg, I saved a test file as f.dba. Go to save it again (not save as), and it requests a filename again.


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Btw, nice work on the line number highlighting, seems to work properly with multi-source files now.


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When I set the display settings to windowd 1024 x 768 32 bit in project settings - display settings - change resolution a window pops up just saying "False". whats that about?
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Thanks Rob.

I've just noticed something really interesting and quite odd. As noted above I have the default editor minimised (in the background) while I use the Blue IDE. If I get an error message in Blue -i.e. the #include error noted above- then when I change across to the default IDE there is an error message there as well without me even doing anything in the default IDE. It seems that the compiler makes the default IDE generate an error message. How strange is that??

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news Rob, but:
Quote: "- Fixed cursor problems"

Not quite, I'm afraid. If you only add one cursor then it works fine, but add anymore than that and only the last one is saved.

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Hi Rob,

the latest version (d/loaded 25/1/04, 22:00) doesn't seem to like constants. Here's the very first line of my code...

#CONSTANT cScenery 1000

and the error...


Syntax error - #CONSTANT cScenery 1000

EDIT: but if I create a one-line program, just a constant declaration, it's fine. The following lines of the original code are all constants, so it's not picking up on an error on another line.
The other weird thing...the error appears in a messagebox, not in the Additional Compile Info

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Same here


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Hi there, been using your new ID for a while and have a couple of questions (I've been using Beta2B but this may have been covered in the RC version, i apollogise if this is so).

1) When i do a compile and run, and it comes back from the run program, the cursor has jumped up to the top of the bit of source i have been editing.

2) Is it possible for the compiler error bit to work out where an error occured in a specific piece of source code, i currently have to work out which one it's in by recognising the bit of code with the error, I split my code into lots of pieces of source so that it's easier to develop the diffent bits.

Best editor I've used by far though so far.

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Quote: "When I set the display settings to windowd 1024 x 768 32 bit in project settings - display settings - change resolution a window pops up just saying "False". whats that about? "


A debug message I must have left in by mistake (rather like the weird message you get if you try to use the mousewheel in the default IDE's help files). Will remove ASAP.

@BatVink

This is a Macro Processor error (the pre-processor plugin built into BlueIDE which allows you to easily build different versions of your code)
Does this problem happen if you use #constant instead of #CONSTANT? - Failing that, disable plugin pre-processing on the Advanced tab of the IDE Settings dialog.

@Philip
I know why this happens, yes it is odd, but I can't do anything about it I'm afraid.

@Scraggle
Will look into it

@jasuk70
Both of those issues were bugs in Beta2b that have been fixed in the RC 1.0.0 version


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Just installed the latest RC 1.0.0

Something very strange is happening. I click on one of the files in my project, i then click the compile and run button, It falls over with an error (That didn't appear on the previous version) When it goes back to the code, that file now contains all the code from all of the files.

Any help appreciated.

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What is the error?


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I think the error number was 38 but it said syntax error and something like "#CONSTANT Var 6" Didnt display any more message. But one thing i did notice was the Title of the window had some really long number displayed followed by %

And what ever sorce window i had open contained the entire source of the project.

Jas
(I'm at work so cannot access exact information till later)
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Rob,
One thing i was wondering if it was possible to implement in the editor was an "Option Explicit" I appologise if this is mentioned already. But basically some kind of pre-compile pass to make sure that all the variables used are assigned. (Not sure how difficult this would be).

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@jas,

I believe that is the macro processor bug which was reported by BatVink (you can temporarily get round this by disabling compile-time plugins on the Advanced menu of the IDE Preferences dialog)

Option Explicit is not going to happen I'm afraid, I played around with the idea, but it would be difficult to implement properly and would have to change if the language is updated. Although it is very obvious to us when we view code what is a variable and what is not, it is harder to produce a fast parser that can do this. If someone feels confident enough to write a pre-processor plugin to do this then feel free.

However, under IDE Preferences, there is an option to auto-fix up the case of variables.

Eg if you define

global myVar

and you type myvar, it will be corrected to myVar


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About the plugins... well, how do they work? And if I intended to write one, how would I go about getting it to interact with the IDE?


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Thanks Rob, Will give all that a try tonight.

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@Exeat

Plugins can be run and configured from the Tools menu.

The QuickCodes one is fairly simple, it replaces short-codes you specify eg "ObjectX" with the full equivilent "Object Position X" at compile time.

The RGB Colour Picker is fairly self explanatory - pick a colour, the RGB equiv. is inserted into the code.

The macro processor can do a variety of useful things, such as enable you to build different versions of your code (debug, release, trial, full) see the "BlueIDE Macros" document in the folder where you installed BlueIDE.

For info on creating plugins, look at the source for existing plugins and check the "BlueIDE Plugin System" document in the folder where you installed BlueIDE.

Thanks for reporting the issues - I'm fixing them


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I've disabled the plugins and it doesnt muck up my source code anymore, thanks.

One thing i have noticed is that it's when there is an error, In the main source code it gets the error line correct, in each other source code file it gets progresivly 1 line forward in each source. E.g. if the error was line 10 in source 2 line 11 is hilighted, if it's line 10 of source 5 it's line 15 that gets hilighted.

On the fixup variable case, it works great for global variables but doesnt seem to work for Dimensioned arrays (global or otherwise) or normal variables. Is this a limitation of the fixup case?

Anyways thanks for helping, can get work done again now.

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Ahh, didn't realise there were documents in there. lol. Thanks.


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@Rob

This is just a very minor point. "Case default:" is not recognised as a scope keyword, just a keyword. This is in contrast to select, case, endselect and endcase. So what you get is "Case default:" appearing in a different colour from the rest of the scope keywords that appear in a select list.

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PS: I don't think you responded to my begging request for showing global variables and local variables' names in different colours?

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FOUND A PROBLEM!

You can't have an exe name with an exclamation point in the beginning. It is very annoying having to rename the exe every time I have to compile.


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Couple of niggles.

It doesn't save the setting of the "Convert tabs to spaces while typeing" checkbox.

It doesn't save the setting of the "Allways open in a seperate window" option in the help tab.

In the libary tab clicking on "View online codebase >>" opens an internet explorer window instead of my default browser(firebird)

On the libary tab with the user plugins anychance you could get it could use the plugin dlls string table to show what commands are in the dll and what parimeters they need.
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Quote: "On the fixup variable case, it works great for global variables but doesnt seem to work for Dimensioned arrays (global or otherwise) or normal variables. Is this a limitation of the fixup case?"


Works fine for arrays here - might be a source issue, can you give me an example of an array declaration which doesn't seem to work. Normal variables can't be fixed up because there is no declaration for the editor to refer to (except where they are explicitly declared with the local keyword).


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Ah, i've been doing:

{Var} AS {Type}

I'll switch to LOCAL {Var} AS {Type}

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hey, just wanted to tell that the font and font size is not beeing saved when closing and if you have a bigger START BAR(or whatever you call it, you know the start button in windows, the bar it's on) than the original there are some parts in the editor you can't see and there is no scroll-balk eighter. but other than that I like it very much

just 1 more request, could you add more colors? or something like a color pallete cuz I want to change the background to light grey but the standart light grey is to dark and white is to bright. I'll stop whining now



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Quote: "and there is no scroll-balk eighter"


What ?! - Sounds like something out of Lord of the Rings!


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Yes, its THE IDE now! Thanks Rob!

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I just started work on an "AutoComplete" or as some people call it "IntelliSense" plugin.



I'm having a few problems though, hopefully they won't be too much trouble to sort out.

Firstly Rob, Code.CurrentWord returns the current word but is there anyway for me to return the previous word (or even previous two words) as well? This is because if someone types:

"Set Ligh"

Then I can only access "Ligh" and so my code won't be able to search for "Set Lightmapping On" in the commands list as it only knows the second word.

Secondly, I still can't quite get the plugin to insert text at the current location. I made this function:



Which is located in the Class Module, however, I'm trying to insert text from the configuration form. Whenever I try to use that function it will say "Sub or Function Not Defined". My VB's probably a bit rusty but this is obviously because it's in a private class module, would you mind refreshing my memory on how I can access it? Thanks.


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Quote: "Firstly Rob, Code.CurrentWord returns the current word but is there anyway for me to return the previous word (or even previous two words) as well? This is because if someone types:"


You'll have to use the Code.GetLine() method to get the complete line, then parse it to work out what the previous words were.

Quote: "would you mind refreshing my memory on how I can access it? Thanks."


The easiest method would just be to create a normal module in your plugin project and put the InsertText function there.


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Any explaination on the anti exclamation thing?


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After using LOCAL and GLOBAL for every declaration it has sorted all the variable case changes.

One slight niggle is, if i want to put a new line of code at the start of this loop:



I end up with a new next statement like below



Also any word on the error line reporting mechanism? Got confused for a while earlier due to that line miscount problem causing another a differen piece of source code being reported as a problem. (It was at the end of the previous souce but showed the beginning of the next source as the error line)

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Looking forward to the final release, as i've said this is the best editor so far for DB Pro in my opinion (I've tried all the ones i know about)

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Quote: "I end up with a new next statement like below"


Hold the Ctrl key down when you press Return to create a new line.

Quote: "Also any word on the error line reporting mechanism?"


Haven't looked at it yet but I will do asap.


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Posted: 31st Jan 2004 18:28 Edited at: 31st Jan 2004 18:32
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31st Jan 1.0.0 RC Update | Source Code

Changes:

- Fixed bug where upper-case #CONSTANT and #INCLUDE commands were interpreted as var-assignments
by macro processor
- Fixed bug where a plugin error would cause the code from all include files to be appended to the current tab.
- Fixed crash when locating error line no. in some projects
- Fixed Run-Time error 9 crash on startup where BIDEKeywords.ini was deleted but another .ini was added so that the file count did not change
- Changed error line no. calculating method slightly, although it appears that the compiler almost certainly returns
the wrong line number in larger projects which makes life difficult
- Fixed bug where an exclamation sign at the start of the exe filename would cause it to be rejected
- Case default was identified as a keyword not a scope keyword. Now changed to scope kw.
- Convert Tabs to Spaces setting saved
- "Always in Seperate Window" option saved.

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- Web links open in IE, regardless of whether or not it is the default browser.


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