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Posted: 18th Jan 2017 21:16
Hi,
I have send the new Version from the "easy converter" to preben, to test it.
I hope all is fine
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Posted: 21st Jan 2017 13:23 Edited at: 22nd Jan 2017 16:09
Hi,

bugfixed V1.01a Version from the "easy converter" send to preben, to test it.
Now i think, all is fine (-:

If the PC Version is error free, then i will make an MAC and Linux Version

Sascha
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Posted: 22nd Jan 2017 16:12 Edited at: 22nd Jan 2017 16:14
Hi,

bugfixed V1.01b Version from the "easy converter" send to preben, to test it.

Now you can open the "Path Folder"
Bugfix: Not all converted PNG Files have correct Names (Lowercase)

Sascha

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Posted: 2nd Feb 2017 17:13
Any idea when this might get released? Can't wait to have a play!
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Posted: 8th Feb 2017 15:25 Edited at: 8th Feb 2017 15:25
CJB: here you go

Download Now: ggloader109.zip
A new version of GG Loader is now available , include bug fixes and now support the latest version of GameGuru 1.14 , and also support the next version 1.141 coming shortly , GameGuru 1.141 is already available as “public preview” if you want to try it.


The new GG Loader GUI is now available as a beta, big thanks to sdl (Sascha) for this great program.

The easy to use GUI allow you to convert all the GameGuru media, and unpack you level and place it directly in your GG Loader project folder where it should be

Download Now: GGLoaderGUI.zip
Unzip program anywhere you like , and run GGLoaderGUI1.01b.exe

If you already converted all the GameGuru media , you should only check “Convert and copy GameGuru Level” , and it will take your level and make it ready to run directly inside your GG Loader project, just click convert, and click run in AppGameKit and you have all your changes

If you use GG Loader for the first time you should check all checkboxes, this will prepare all GameGuru media and make sure your ready to run your first GameGuru level in GG Loader. Please be patience this can take 40min+ depending on how mush GameGuru media you have.


Here is a image of my settings ready to run for the first time:


Note: “Select GG Loader temporary folder” should point to AGK2 temporary folder and your AppGameKit project name.


More great news: ALL GG Loader shaders and features are now build into the core of GameGuru so from GameGuru version 1.14+ you don’t need to install any gameguru shaders everything is already there

I have spent the last 3 month helping Lee improving GameGuru, fixing bugs and taking GameGuru to the next level, you can check out all the new stuff we have made in these threads:

https://forum.game-guru.com/thread/217310
https://forum.game-guru.com/thread/216864

This means i have not had mush time to improve GG Loader the last 3 month, but that will change now ( we are nearly there, one more week ), and while helping Lee i have “sneaked” in many new features/stuff we can use in AGK2 for future GG Loader versions ( don’t tell anyone )

Please let me know if you have any problems with the new GG Loader GUI.
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Posted: 8th Feb 2017 15:53
Downloading now. Great update! Thanks Preben.
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Posted: 11th Feb 2017 11:24 Edited at: 11th Feb 2017 11:27
Hi..i stalking gameguru forum both here and steam forums and it lead me here.

My question since i dont have gg. Since ofcourse we hv to code the gameplay in agk so does it mean the character will have shadows system as the default agk dont have one.

Thanks
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Posted: 21st Feb 2017 12:37 Edited at: 21st Feb 2017 12:47
hoyoyo80: Currently you have lightmapped shadows , im working on a realtime cascade shadow , but its still WIP: it will take some weeks to get this done.

Coming to a GG Loader near you , realtime cascade shadows , not sure if it will be fast enough for mobile but at least you will be able to use it for desktop

Sorry my mac is slow and make jerky bad videos:


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Posted: 21st Feb 2017 13:30
Wahoo, it's great !
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Posted: 24th Feb 2017 17:28
Thanks blendman ,

Some progress , first time im running around a GG Level with realtime cascade shadows
Still work to do on this, but bias is beginning to work.

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Posted: 24th Feb 2017 20:33
Wow! Are any of those baked, or are they all realtime?

Would love to see a vid
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Posted: 25th Feb 2017 03:23
Great work preben! I am super glad to be a proud GGloader owner best money I ever spent.
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Posted: 25th Feb 2017 15:54 Edited at: 25th Feb 2017 15:58
Cor: Thanks
CJB: Everything is realtime nothing is baked , made a quick level using the easter pack to show the realtime shadows in action , also display how easy it is to convert from GameGuru to AppGameKit using the new GG Loader GUI.

You should note some great side effects, now that you have shadows, everything inside a building is in shadow , so if you have a window it now "looks like" the Sun is coming into the room through windows and cracks. See last screenshot and video.

Update: added alpha mask to shadow depth buffer to allow sun through transparent objects like windos glass ...

Sorry still my slow jerky video recorder:




Shadows just give a feeling of depth in the scene:
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Posted: 25th Feb 2017 21:08
amazing. when will this come to our downloads section ?
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Posted: 26th Feb 2017 19:17
Very impressive.
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Posted: 27th Feb 2017 15:46
Fantastic Work!!!
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Posted: 28th Feb 2017 11:06 Edited at: 28th Feb 2017 11:12
Thanks all , Cor: now!

Update: ggloader110.zip download at daily3d.com

Also include the easter pack test level , ready to run if you like a quick realtime shadow test ( you must have the easter pack media for it to work ).

Include realtime cascade shadows , also working on mobiles , i still need to optimise it more for mobiles and fix the bias , but this will get you started using realtime shadows.

Also other bug fixes, and made some changes to make it work on the new AGK2 beta.

iPad early test without optimising using the desktop version ( on mobiles a little adjusting is still needed ) , Volume: voice over is so LOW you really need to turn up to hear it , don’t worry i will not scream at the end





Turn down the volume again , just a 360 speed rotating sun for testing.



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Posted: 28th Feb 2017 17:14
THANKS PREBEN! do we have to do anything special to get these realtime shadows in our maps?
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Posted: 28th Feb 2017 19:07
Cor: nothing special , i enabled it by default "global realtimeshadow = 1" , there will be more option in the next version for quality vs. speed etc... so you can define your own. ( needed for mobile )
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Posted: 28th Feb 2017 19:16
Like i said....best money spent. Thanks preben
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Posted: 1st Mar 2017 06:24 Edited at: 1st Mar 2017 06:48
Preben I seem to have run into a problem. I used the gui to convert all the media and copy the level. However when I run my level it looks like it is still using the terrain from the easter map that comes with ggloader. I cant seem to get the correct terrain. Any ideas? thanks!! EDIT: found out why the terrain was gone. the mobileversion was set to 1 which took away terrain. the level now looks good on desktop but I get a completely wrong map and no objects on mobile and if I get the right terrain I get no objects. like I said it only happens when I try to broadcast to my iPhone 7. I'm sure I'm missing something somewhere
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Posted: 1st Mar 2017 08:04 Edited at: 1st Mar 2017 08:16
Cor: before your able to broadcast to mobile you should copy:
baked-vegmask.png
baked-m_mobile.png or baked-m.png
to your GGLoader/media/gameguru/ folder.

Also remember to copy the collected media "ggmedia" to /ggloader/media/ggmedia
Before preparing a mobile version i always delete the temporary ggmedia folder and run the project again to collect new media, this way im sure only the media from the level is included.

All media must be inside your project before agk as able to broadcast it

When you got your game into your mobile , here is some tips you can use to get a high FPS.

Setting Tips:

global mobileversion = 1
This will cut the terrain polygons in half.

global mobileversion = 2
This will cut the terrain polygons in half AGAIN.

global usemobiletextures = 1
Use reduced textures for diffuse/normal/specular textures. a must for mobile, if you still run out of memory on your mobile edit “ggfunc.agc” and search for “result_mobile2.png”

Enable this line in 2 places to use even smaller textures.

global usewaterreflection = 0
When you use water reflection then everything is rendered 2 times , so disable it to nearly double your FPS.

global normalshaderpath$ = "mobile/"
Setting this will use the fastest shaders for everything, you have 4 different shader packs available, so when you change the shaderpack used you get less features but more speed , so you can try the different packs until you get the speed features your looking for. You must use “desktop/“ if you use realtime shadows.

global basemaponly = 1
This will generate one large terrain texture and use a detail textures , so this will be the fastest terrain available. ( you will need to copy the auto generated "basemap.png" into your media folder , see doc. ).

global objectsonlyusenormalspec = 1
Terrain do not use normal and specular, mush faster.

global includenormalmap = 0
Disable normal maps and specular maps on all objects and terrain.

Also disable the post processing shaders you dont need:
global usebloomshader = 0
global usecartoonshader = 0
global usedithershader = 0
global useditherc64shader = 0
global usefxaashader = 0
global uselensflare = 0
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Posted: 1st Mar 2017 08:42
Preben :

The new shadows are great !

1) Are the shadows only in black or can you change the colors for the shadows ? (baked & realtime). It's great to have some cartoon effect or event fantasy effect (a shadow in blue/green with a light in orange works great).
2) Can you baked the realtime shadows too ?
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Posted: 1st Mar 2017 15:45 Edited at: 1st Mar 2017 15:46
blendman: currently you can only change the colors of the baked shadows, you just draw it like you want it, but you can change the shaders to your needs, its not that difficult to change the shadow color.
currently shadow code look something like this:

Change it to:

This will give you a red looking shadow

NEW: Mobile shadows now have no problems, just as good as desktop, but i still need to optimise it to run faster.

Took a break from shadows, and made a player flashlight, it will be great for those dark scary games

You can control how mush light it should give, so your able to turn it on/off , make it flash , fade the flash light up/down …



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Posted: 1st Mar 2017 16:22 Edited at: 1st Mar 2017 16:23
Can flashlight cast shadows?
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Posted: 1st Mar 2017 18:37
CJB:
Quote: "Can flashlight cast shadows?"

Thats would be a neat trick, but i think the direction of the flashlight would always cover the shadow , so you would never see it, perhaps the nearest dynamic light casting shadows would be nice , well i need to complete the basic shadows first
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Posted: 1st Mar 2017 19:32
Preben your work is amazing. Nicely done.
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Posted: 1st Mar 2017 20:02
Had some questions why i did not have shadows in the video , well it was so dark so i was thinking ... sure you can mix shadows and flashlight , flashlight will fade out shadows when you point at them


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Posted: 8th Mar 2017 15:56 Edited at: 8th Mar 2017 15:59
Released new version: ggloader120.zip
Get your copy now at daily3d.com

Include real-time cascade shadows for desktop and mobiles.
Include the new player flashlight, start making your dark scary games now

Test using “Valuable Assets” media, works out of the box in GG Loader:




The same level on iPad with voice over. The kids been using my iPad i really need to clean it, you cant see its dirty from here, only in this video






New users: added a few 25% discount coupons: givemeshadows

http://www.daily3d.com/gg-loader-1-20-released
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Posted: 10th Mar 2017 15:04 Edited at: 10th Mar 2017 15:05
GG Loader - new simple AI system you can build on , using GameGuru waypoints directly, Draw waypoints in GG and watch your characters move around in GG Loader, supports moving up/down second floors etc... it will just follow the geometry where you place your waypoints , No need to do anything special , using a smooth round cornering system when meeting a waypoint to give a natural looking character movement.
Sorry bad video quality, i will never learn to record proper videos, preview:




25% discount end tomorrow, use coupon: givemeshadows
http://www.daily3d.com/gg-loader-1-20-released
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Posted: 10th Mar 2017 17:17
Are they using the 3D physics character controller?
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That looks really cool.
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Posted: 12th Mar 2017 10:12
Thanks

Quote: "Are they using the 3D physics character controller"

No im using my own.
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Posted: 17th Mar 2017 13:37
GG Loader 1.21 released.

* Include simple AI that allow characters to follow GameGuru waypoints.
Characters is assigned to the nearest waypoint index. So you can have many different sets of waypoints that allow different movement for different characters. If a character is to far away from a waypoint it will just act normal. Characters will follow its waypoint set in both directions.
* Gem world level is now working.
* Other minor bug fixes.

Download now from daily3d.com


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thanks again Preben, Gemworld now works ok. Awesome stuff.
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Posted: 21st Mar 2017 15:08 Edited at: 21st Mar 2017 15:09
Released GG Loader 1.22: > Download <

* Allow you to import a standard heightmap and get it into GameGuru.
* Allow you to import raw 16 bit heightmap and get it into GameGuru.

Use: saveheightmap("TerrainHeightmap.png","m.dat",0.40,16) , to convert a standard height map , 0.40 = scale factor , 16= how mush to smooth the terrain , normal height maps is 8 bits, so you need to smoothen it otherwise it will look like minecraft , you might have to use GameGuru smooth after the conversion to remove patterns.

Use: saverawheightmap("terrainraw.raw","m.dat",0.18) , to convert a raw 16 bit heightmap this will give the best result. 0.18 = scale factor.
If you use Unity to generate the 16bit raw height map you should use these settings:


Why to allow you to quickly get a terrain into GameGuru, design your level, and get it right back into GG Loader

Quickly make advanced terrains:


Here is a video about how to use it:




Also added 3 terrains (levels) you can use for whatever you want, they are already converted. Just rename to .fpm and copy to your GameGuru mapbank.

creater1.zip: a large creater. hope your not afraid of heights.
terrain1.zip: a random terrain.
island1.zip: is the one from the video.

Download now from www.daily3d.com
http://www.daily3d.com/gg-loader-1-20-released
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Posted: 21st Apr 2017 16:44 Edited at: 21st Apr 2017 16:45
Since this DLC is out https://www.thegamecreators.com/post/appgamekit-dlc-released-to-capture-gameguru-assets

https://www.thegamecreators.com/product/appgamekit-gameguru-loader

I have a tiny question, will it came to Steam and will owners of the GameGuru Loader get a Steamkey?

Thanks for answer.
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Hi Xaby: There will not be any need for a steam key , i will make sure to update your account with all the latest version , and i just updated all account so you can download the same version as the steam version, just login to your daily3d.com account and download

I will update more about whats new in this release tomorrow.
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This is great, I just got it from the The Game Creators website, and trying to port over a project now. My next goal is to create a legitimate online multiplayer experience using this, the socket system and a C# Server I made for an existing project!

A+ work! This is a huge step forward for AGK.
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2017 08:52
Excellent work, Preben.

I'd also appreciate a Steam key, if at all possible. Automatic updates are very useful to me, as I don't get much time for development, and I simply like having everything in one place. I'd be sure to write a suitably positive Steam Review if so (I've been experimenting with the Loader for quite some time now).
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2017 11:04
SamuGames: Thanks, online multiplayer wow, can’t wait to see your progress

DARKHALO2K:
Xaby:
ALL GG Loader BACKERS:

I stopped selling GG Loader from daily3d.com , GameGuru Loader is now only available on Steam.
For the people that have backed this project and already got a daily3d.com account , i really appreciate this and will make sure to update your accounts with all the latest versions, there will not be any free steam keys for current users, but i will make sure you WANT to use daily3d.com to download. All your accounts are going to be upgraded to… ? (non GameGuru Loader related), more about this later, you baked this and i want to show you how mush i appreciate that

If you prefer a steam key instead of a daily3d.com account, give me a email: plemsoft@plemsoft.com and i will replace your daily3d.com account with a steam key
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Posted: 22nd Apr 2017 19:14 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2017 19:46
Thanks for the reply, Preben, and for giving us reason to stick with our daily3D accounts. I appreciate that you'll continue to update us and am excited by your tease for the future! It's very kind of you to offer an exchange, but after further thought I think I'll stay as I am.

GG Loader goes a long way in enabling me to create the type of games that I want to create, so thanks for making your work available to us. The scope of my games would be a lot smaller without GG Loader!

In fact, I recently posted about my FPS engine and am now experimenting with GG levels.
https://forum.thegamecreators.com/thread/219250
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I already bought the Daily3D version, but I'll be buying the steam version too! Currently £17.24 which is AMAZING value. I've been playing with this quite a bit lately and it is FANTASTIC. Thank you Preben for all your hard work!
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I purchased my copy directly though TGC's website, will this one receive the same updates as frequently as Steam?

It took no time to get a level in GameGuru up and running on my mobile device, (the GG Loader GUI) made it really simple to understand (except I accidently selected the SteamApps/Game Guru root folder and not the 'FILES' folder, so the first attempt copied all of Game Guru into my temp folder hah. But the second attempt went perfect, took about 30 minutes for everything to convert, the only thing that didn't seem to port over properly was the terrain texture, but I haven't done any digging yet to figure out why.

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Posted: 23rd Apr 2017 11:55 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2017 11:57
Thanks ALL

Quote: "but I'll be buying the steam version too! Currently £17.24 which is AMAZING value."

Now your really supporting the work, thanks a bunch its appreciated

Quote: "I purchased my copy directly though TGC's website, will this one receive the same updates as frequently as Steam?"

I will be sending updates to Rick more often then he change socks , so sure everything will be updated, we talked about perhaps a new update each month, but this will very, so new goodies will also come your way

The text "'/FILES/' will be added to the text in the next update , as you say it do give some troubles if not used , happy you figured it out

Quote: "the only thing that didn't seem to port over properly was the terrain texture,"

This is because you already tried a level on your mobile , in the /ggloader/media/gameguru/ folder you find some files that begins with "baked-" Just delete all those and everything will work. When you place the "baked-" files in this folder it will not regenerate anything , so the "baked" files should be used when your level so done and your ready to publish , or when you just want to test on mobiles, but just delete them and everything will be generated again, this is mainly done this way so no processing is needed on mobiles and your game start mush faster

Quote: "In fact, I recently posted about my FPS engine and am now experimenting with GG levels."

Yes i did see your engine , and i cant wait to see how great this will be when you add your "weapon" system etc... to GameGuru Loader , it looks like a perfect marriage , please post screenshots
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Posted: 23rd Apr 2017 12:18 Edited at: 23rd Apr 2017 12:19
Game ideas: in one of my AI test maps i tried to make a "pacman" maze, only took an hour, and made the Ghosts (soldiers) walk around using waypoints. this works pretty good , someone should make a 3d pacman game, use a retro shader and add some good old Amiga mod tracks
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Update 24-Apr-17:

Added for next release (soon).

You can now add as many GameGuru levels you like to the same AppGameKit project.
Just call function loadlevel("gameguru") , normally you put your level in \ggloader\media\gameguru , just create a new folder like \ggloader\media\level2 and simply call loadlevel(“level2”) to start and play a new level.

Third Person Player Camera. If you set a character in GameGuru to TPP and in GameGuru Loader use “global TPPcamera = 1” , it will find and use this character for the TPP camera. I added a system that you can expand if you like swimming,jumping or other animations. It will give you a start and you can see how to control the animations.

Check how cool the flashlight looks when fired from the TPP




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Posted: 24th Apr 2017 23:06 Edited at: 24th Apr 2017 23:25
Seriously amazing progress Preben! THANK YOU!

Quote: "the only thing that didn't seem to port over properly was the terrain texture"
I too am still having trouble with this. Even without anything copied over from the AppGameKit tmp (appData) folder, I still end up with the image attached being created every time I try to run or convert a new level.

If anyone has figured this out yet, please post

Anyway, even without the proper terrain textures, the results are beautiful! Here's a little sunset bridge I just knocked up:

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Preben
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Posted: 25th Apr 2017 08:20
CJB: Beautiful Scene

The terrain splatmap you have , is the AppGameKit "missing texture" / "corrupt image" default image.

This is the function that produce this: gamegurubakesplatmap(vegmaskfile$) , first thing this does is check if you have a baked version of the splatmap , so make sure you delete this file "\ggloader\media\gameguru\baked-vegmask.png" this file could be corrupt. If this file dont exist, it will use the original converted GameGuru splatmap "\ggloader\media\gameguru\vegmask_result.png" , If this file is missing you should convert your level again to get it back , if it exist it must be corrupt , try to delete it and convert it again.

If this dont help , then it must be this that fails:

Make sure you have runonmobile = 0 , and perhaps its not able to "save" the image (if the current file got a permission problem) , try to delete it from your AppData folder.
The problem must be one of these , Let me know if it fix your problem
best regards Preben Eriksen,

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