Quote: "You reckon not? So you are basically saying all our physics/ mathematics are wrong? Fair enough. You don't happen be one of those people who reckon we've only been around for a few hundred years, and dinosaur bones are fakes planted by God, by any chance?"
I belive that humans have lived on earth for about 4000 years. I belive that dinosaurs were the beta test for humans (go programming) and existed no more then 6000 years ago. If my belife is true then it would mean that fossile fules acctually do not come from fossels, and that fossels take MUCH less time to be created then people think now ( I think it takes about 2000 years)
Quote: "ENERGY cannot be created or destroyed, ony changed state, matter is a state of energy.
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That been said where'd the energy come from to make all matter?
Quote: "Do you understand quantum cosmology? If the answer is no, then dont worry about whethers stars can exist or not, just get on with your life and be happy that stars are there ."
No, and I don't have to understand that man made BS, that was only created in a sad attempt to disprove the existance of god.
Quote: "Ah - in that case, I put to you, is there any mathematical reason why they shouldn't exist ?"
All energy sources burn out, even fusion based energy sources (although they take longer they do not last for much more then a year or two), there for a star would burn out after only a year of life. Also there is no method to begin the fusion, there is simply not enough gravity on a star pre fusion to create fusion.
Quote: "For any referance to scientists/what ever the space people are called pre modern technology"
With out modern technology there was no way to test these theories, and even now they are but random guesses, which will in a short while (5 or 6 hundred years) be tested and many disproven.
Quote: "No, stars aren't possible at all. That's why the sun's up in the sky!"
I belive that stars are only possible if there is a higher power (God) and therefor proves that God exists. I like to think of the Earth as a program, the programer can do what ever he wants, however by the equasions with in the program (the worlds gravity ect.) not everything he does is possible.
Quote: "Even if you believe in God .... can you tell me what created God ?"
Say there where no God, what created us?
I will disprove evelution if need be.
Quote: "First of all, you have to know that you can not understand the mathematical laws of gravitaion with what you learned in secundary school. You will have to know about tensorial calculations."
Secondary being 7/8th grade or 9-12th grades? I am confused, for once some one on a forum has managed to confuse me.
Like I said before any equiations (calculations) that attemt to explain the universe are mear sad attempts to disprove God. They use really big names and hard to understand (man made) functions to make the general masses belive them.
Quote: "Be aware though that matter itself causes space-time curvature, the more matter the greater the curvature.. possibly even to the point of curving space & time back onto itself creating an infinite loop so you could theoretically see yourself in the future before you even attempt it. Add to this that every possiblity exists in parallel universes along with the 11 dimensions in each one and things start getting interesting
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Two things, how does matter make the universe possible, shouldn't it be the other way around?
And Last parallel universes Right...., In order for that there would have to be several [insert the largest real number here] universes for each and every action. Even if it was possible it would be too large.
Quote: "You reckon not? So you are basically saying all our physics/ mathematics are wrong? Fair enough. You don't happen be one of those people who reckon we've only been around for a few hundred years, and dinosaur bones are fakes planted by God, by any chance?"
i just have to re visit this one. Back about 20 years ago Creationists were called Christions. And evelutionarioneists (I don't know the real word so I made one up) where called crackpots (or crackheads, what ever floats your boat as long as it doesn't involve me).
I do not belive that all math is wrong I only belive that it is 'rigged'.
Quote: "Here's one for the creationists and is something that I generally subscribe to: God created the universe for us to explore, to admire his greatness, to see and understand the depth of his power and the complexity of all things. He did not create the universe so we could sit on our ass and only use blind faith."
I do not use blind faith and I described my faith with the program example. I have no problem with trying to figure out anything, but I do not agree with preaching (teaching) unprovable, impossable (by math and science, well 'True' math and science) phemominon (I can't spell) to younger generations, with out atleast noting the possability of God. This is what I call brainwashing. I was taught to belive in evelution in elementary school. I know know that evelution is a load of BS and I am researching to discover other phenominon that I was taught to belive, but that are impossable (including matter, thought, dreams, and that only humans can think).
I know I will always be the 'crazy kid' because I do not belive that dreams and thought are possable however I am willing to live with that so that I may know the ultimate truth and not be blind of it like most others (most because of the possablity of other 'crazy kids')
With that I end my input to the debate, post and I will read howver I will not reply.
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