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Geek Culture / Best Game of all time. You dicide!!

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MiR
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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 04:00
Well. This one is easy. Shenmue 2. Never has a game effected me so much. I was so incredible. Could have done with the odd "I see" though.


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Posted: 25th Jan 2005 22:45
Oh... So many high quallity games to choose from... But for best overall game I would have to say... Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time! The first time playing it was just enchanting, the excelent storyline, the massive 3D world to explore, the action-packed and puzzle filled dungeons. It actually won the award for best game of the century!

Games That I can't leave unmentioned...
Best Storyline = Chrono Trigger
Best Action = Super Smash Bros. (64 and Melee)
Best Racing = Mario Kart Series
Most Addicting Gameplay = Super Mario 64
... Yup... cant think of them all right now but there are quite a few great ones... I really need to play FF7...

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The Bard Tales (then again, I worked on it)

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Ok, let's think about things logically:

What people consider to be the 'best game ever' can easily be influenced. For instance, I've one post for Halo 2, only two people (including myself) have mentioned Panzer Dragoon Saga, and there have been some mentions of games like Elite, Half-Life (the original), Final Fantasy and Legend of Zelda.

Halo 2 is a new game and some people haven't played dit yet (I'm waiting for a PC version, I hate FPS games with control pads), where as some other games are so old (Elite for example) that many people on these forums may be too young to even have heard of the game.

On the other hand we have games that saw very pour sales dispite getting rave reviews at the time. Panzer Dragoon Saga is possible to greatest unknown game in history, since fewer then 10,000 copies of the game were manufactured world-wide! There are hundred of thousands of people around the world who have heard about the game, but will never play it due to it's rarety, and therefore, those people are unable to vote for this game.

You will also find that soon after a great game is released, (such as GTA) many people will vote for tha purely because it't the game they play the most at this time.

Then you get some people who stick rigidly to certain genres, such as FPS, or RPG, or RTS (damnit, too many abbreviations) and have no real knowledge of games from other genres.

There are even some people who don't understand that games exist other then Counter Strike.

I'd like to point to the magazine Computer & Video Games Magazine (CVG) who have been in print since 1979. They review games on abslutely everything and followed the Saturn and Dreamcast to their deaths. In 2001 (prior to the PS2 release) they had a vote in competition where people were asked to vote for their favourite 5 computer games of all time on any systems that was officially released in the UK.

Elite (the original BBC version) was in 60th place.
Half-Life was in 13th.
Shenmue (Shenmue 2 hadn't been released yet) was in 10th.
Mario Kart (Snes version) was 8th
Zelda: Ocarina of Time was in 1st

Panzer Dragoon Saga (probably fewer then 1000 copies in the UK) was in 24th place.

Now, granted the game didn't get an amazing position, but for such a rare game to have enough people across the UK to vote it into the top 25 out of several thousand games, against the likes of those above and with over a million votes counted across the whole event, is a phenominal feat!

I know people are going to disagree with me about whether PDS is the greatest game of all time, but I challenge anyone to play the game, and THEN disagree! Graphics and gameplay may be dated now, but rememeber it was state of the art when it was released in the summer of 1998!

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Is it 3D?

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 07:06
(groan)
http://www.rpgamer.com/games/other/sega/pds/pds.html
they have screenshots and other details here, knock yourself out (sigh)...

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 07:43
Ledgend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

or

Final Fantasy 8

Like Raven I cant decide so just pick Legend of Zelda as my vote.

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Can I change my vote to Metal Gear Solid?

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no! bad boy, sit! lol just kidding you can, but please edit your original post into what you want and do it by the 30.

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My favorite game of all time....

Start Fox 64


Now you can't tell me that wasn't a great game. But I have to mention other great games like.

Zelda: Ocarina of Time

Final Fantasy 8

Kirby Superstar(snes)

Super Smash Brothers 64

Ninjagaden(snes)


Good times, good times...

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Odysseus, great post, its easy to tell your chosen game from your runner up games.

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Would have to say FF7, just love it.
Always something new there. By that I mean, Square packed it with a ton of sub-quests, secrets, etc. - And they balanced it all out perfectly with the storyline.
The whole materia system was really origonal and expandable, combining various spells and strategies makes the game pretty much limitless.

After FF7, I think it would be Mother2. That's cause I love good RPGs, and this was certainly one. A really cute and funny game it was. With not much of a battle system, but that goes unnoticed whilst you're caught up in the game and dialogue.
This is for snes, and was my favourite before FF7. They were gonna make a N64 game, Mother3, but they cancelled it because the gamecube was coming out shortly after, and it would be less successful.
Each of these not being a sequel to the prior, rather, a diffrent storyline, like what was done with the Zelda series.


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Well, judging by where my location and sig came from, I'd have to say the Kingdom Hearts series. Brilliant idea. Beautiful execution. A rival to FF in every way, and it's no surprise, since they were both done by the same company.

That's my vote.

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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 14:36
FF7
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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 14:56
Final Fantasy VIII. Beautiful game, and like many others, the FF8 avater was my first on these forums.

They have yet to make a Lexa Doig based computer game, so I'm one step ahead there!

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Pshh FF8, you cant even learn spells...
But I guess the storys pretty good.


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I read that FF8 was aimed more at the western market, hence the more realistic characters.

FF7 is quite a neat game though. Tonnes more mini games than in FF8, and they're better. The (3D)world was slightly more rich in detail compared to FF8. I'm not entirely sure why I prefer 8 to 7 really...

Oh, I do like the junction system.

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The whole concept of the Junction thing was great (like the materia system), but I just didnt like it that you had to stock up spells instead of learn them. It takes away that freedom aspect which I like so much.
For FF games, Id go FF7, then FFT(ps), then FF8, then FF9, then FF6 - Of course, in order of favourite to least favourite. I judge them not by gameplay, but by storyline - The part that counts the most.


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Posted: 26th Jan 2005 16:13
I'll have to say the same thing as I do every time this subject comes up here : Elite of course.

Best console game however would have to be Super Mario 64.

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''I judge them not by gameplay, but by storyline - The part that counts the most''

Nah, storylines are for books and movies, games should be about gameplay .


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No, I don't mean that in general. Just, storylines in RPGs. I wouldn't want to roleplay some story that just don't make sense...


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Quote: "''I judge them not by gameplay, but by storyline - The part that counts the most''

Nah, storylines are for books and movies, games should be about gameplay ."
Er yeah, good point. Clue is in the name : Game. The story simply separates many similar games from each other. I seriously doubt you are going to be too worried about the storyline of the latest FPS or sport game for instance, but separating the tonnes of clone RPGs on the market normally has to come down to storyline, as most of them have pretty much cornered the gameplay side of things (for RPGs).

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Yeah, I find RPG's engrossing, funny though - I wasn't really that bothered about Fable, felt like they planned for no storyline then bolted a storyline on when things got scary. There's no thought required in any of it, I mean 6 hours gameplay is not the result of so much development surely . I really liked Alundra on the PSX, it had quite a dark storyline, maybe a little like Village of the Damned meets Zelda. My all time fave game is an RPG (Captive), more like Dungeon Master than anything else, but with practically no plot, the game was endless you see (est 50 years constant play to complete).


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Quote: "PDS, is that that Playstation game that was on 4 CDs? I think I had a friend that had that."


Panzer Dragoon Saga, on playstation? That is one of the most insulting comments I have ever heard! Until Panzer Dragoon Orta on XBox, the PD series was a Sega Saturn Exclusive. PDS was released in Summer 1998, less then 6 months before the Saturn died, why do you think the game is hardly known and made fewer then 10000 copies? If the game had been made on the playstation it may have been as successful as Half-Life!

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Maniac Mansion, the C64 version of course.

... they call it a royale with cheese ...
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STARCRAFT


Tis so good.

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Wolfenstein / halflife2
i can't decide
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Duke Nukem 3d, was the best, and there are lot of awesome mods for it like the starship trooper mod . I loved the fact duke nukem actually had character, i mean how many fps characters say "eat **** and die" when you blow up an alien . Waiting on duke nukem forever, the game that takes forever to release
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3 days left to vote


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Zelda ocarina of time

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Well I don't know about any one else but I'd have to say Schizm Mysterious Journey.
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That's impossible to answer. There have been so many...

A list, in no particular order of preference...

1) Elite
2) System Shock 2
3) Half Life 2
4) Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
5) Age of Empires
6) Civilization
7) Silent Service II
8) Alien Breed (on the Amiga)
7) Beneath a Steel Sky (all 12 disks of it, or was it more?)
8) Barbarian
9) Blood Wars (again on the Amiga, but this time because it is so fun to see the computer opponents go absolutely mental in this otherwize awful Beta-release of a game).
10) Cannon Fodder (Ah, the memories, the memories)

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and so on. There's so many favorites.

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i like sneak, adventure, medieval (or what ever you call the time with all the knights and swords and stuff) and horror/thriller
so I think thief is the best, but Thief2 also at its moments, but thief 3 i havent played, my 3d card dont support the shaders...

..i also like Non-Stop-Killing-Action-Strategy-Psychological-Thriller that would be Postal 2

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Hmmmmm I'd Say Zelda: A Link to the Past or ZeldaoT .....ahhhh I cant decided

Meh A Link to the Past it is, just to be different

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There is no "best" game, otherwise I would still be playing it.

I'd say a GOOD game was Diablo 2. Played it for over five years
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Posted: 30th Jan 2005 01:30 Edited at: 30th Jan 2005 01:31
Is there really no one else in this world that likes Call of duty? Everyone is voting LOZ: OOT or other games, I am giving a list of secondary games bacause thats what everyone else is doing!
1.CALL OF DUTY
2.LOZ: OOT
3.Age of Empires
4.Any of the battlefield games
5.Perfect dark
6.Doom 3 (Gets sixth spot and scariest game award!)
7.Counterstrike (any of them)
8.C&C generals (and expansion)
9.Super Smash Brothers (Best party game!)
10.Ratchet and Clank(Any of them)
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Halo 1 & 2!!!!!!!!!!!

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Turok-2 N64 or pc play it if you havent played it do so. I still think i beats a lot of modern Fps's




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polls close in about ten hours, so if you wish to vote, vote now!

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I hope you realise that unless everyone who votes has played every game ever made and you get everyone on the planet to vote, you're gonna get slightly twisted results. For instance, has anyone here played V2000?

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pong of course

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I didn't scare Sage Tech off did I?

[edit] Another point on the excellent games very few people will ever hear of, let alone play, the following games were all rated excellent games for their time, but how many people even know of them?

Shining Force 3: Volumes 1 - 3
Radiant Silver Gun
Dragon Force
Gunstar Heros
Death Tank Zwei

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Quote: "Well I don't know about any one else but I'd have to say Schizm Mysterious Journey."

omg you have that game!?! i thought nobody else did lol...i can't get very far at all (but i haven't looked online for walkthroughs lol)

i wouldn't say it is the best game...but it was n't horribly bad

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Quote: "Radiant Silver Gun"

Never played it but I remember when I kept reading through a Saturn magazine and seeing it . Looked pretty good..

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Nobody said "double dragon" ? I played it so much when I was young.

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COMMANDER KEEN 4
DANGEROUS DAVE 1
WOLFENSTEIN 1
DOOM 1 & 2
Duke nukem 3D

yeah...thats the ticket !

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