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Jeku
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Posted: 8th Jun 2005 02:10
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I'm getting pretty sick of the whole "Touched" word myself--- much like N64 and their games all having the 64 suffix.

Am I the only one who wants to get a DS but doesn't want to use the touch screen? It's gimmicky and useless (in my opinion) to draw in your game, unless an extremely ground-breaking gameplay model is invented from it, which is yet to be seen.


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Posted: 8th Jun 2005 02:58
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Quote: "DS could have been amazing if Nintendo put alittle more effort in!"


Handhelds made by Nintendo... too many for me to count
Handhelds made by Renegade 12345... nil!

If its that easy then why can't we play the Renegade Pocket?

1) Have you played it? Guess not. You draw other stuff such as arrows and although its short the reviews I've seen said it is great fun throughout.
2) Wario Ware is actually a great game. Each mini game doesn't have a plot, but it is great fun.
3) Have you bought it in the PSP, probably not. Its not a first class release and shouldn't represent the console's quality. How would you like it if I picked a game from the list of awful PS2 games and said that was the best the console could do?
4) Presumably PSP wifi is equally rubbish in your oppinion. I'll accept your oppinion if you can give one actual reason why the DS wifi is 'rubbish'. Pictochat is free so who cares if its good or not, I'm sure some people appreciate it.
5) Of course you can only get cartoons on the DS and action films on the PSP; thats really logical <sarcasm>.
6) Again, let me remind you of the trashy games on PS2 (and you can't deny there are A LOT)! You can't judge a console based on one game.
7) Its easier to look at the map without having to pause the game everytime. It also allows for more innovative games using it - such as Metroid Hunters. The stylus control on the 2nd screen and the buttons on it are BRILLIANT! Speaking of price...how much is DS, and how much is PSP. Wow, that 2nd screen really did add to the price.
8) You get given another one in the box. Its got a holder on the DS for the stylus. If you lose BOTH of them somehow, you can order a replacement - but that won't be necessary as you won't lose both. On top of that you have the thumb strap or the buttons while you wait for a replacement.
9) Then don't buy Nintendogs. Again, basing the quality of a console on a 'lame' game isn't fair as all consoles have them.

Quote: "much like N64 and their games all having the 64 suffix"


I know what you mean, but a word used for advertising doesn't affect the quality of the consoles and games. Wario Ware Touched had to have a different name from the many Wario Wares. Theres nothing wrong with having that word to differentiate itself from the other versions.

Quote: "but doesn't want to use the touch screen?"


That doesn't stop you using the buttons. Only a few games REQUIRE you to use the touch screen, and if you don't like that you can buy plenty of other games. There has yet to be a truly ground breaking game but based on the promise shown by games like Pac-Pix there will be some soon. The chance of ground breaking games being on the PSP which can't be on other consoles is nil. Atleast the DS has the potential. One argument would be that the unwanted touch screen just adds to the price, but again just look at the prices of the two consoles and that settles that argument.

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I dont know about the slimline PS2 being useless... But im sure beginning to think Renegade is...

Stop making so many threads dude...


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Posted: 8th Jun 2005 04:50 Edited at: 8th Jun 2005 04:54
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Quote: "Problem is, guys... The DS is incomplete. Many of the games won't last you that long! I played on the DS and the PSP! I can give you the main bad points:"


Bollocks your in the UK/Europe, the only way you could get your hands on a PSP would be through importing and I doubt you have the knowlage on how to do that let alone realise you'd have to import your entire game library to.

As for your games...

1. You've never played Pac Pix, your going by the description of the game which isn't quite what you do IN the game.

2. Warioware is like Wario Land, the mini-games are the whole damn point. Next you'll be telling me Mario Party sucks because there are so many mini-games.

3. Given Ridge Racer isn't yet out for either console, care to explain how you've come to this conclusion already?

4. I've had my Nintendo DS Connect by WiFi to my home from upto 400yards away, while I can't connect to my brother's DS directly it used the extended range of our WiFi Network and we were sending each other silly messages. Sorry but I find Pictochat a blast.. it's like MSN 7, and hopefully once the system is setup the online will allow me to use it exactly like MSN7.

5. Well considering niether are available for either handheld that's not a choice you need to make. Besided personally while I can see myself watching a few cartoons on a long train journey, if I know i'll be that long I'd rather take either my portably DVD Player or PS2-Slim with LCD Travel battery. Why watch movies on a 6" x 3" screen when you can see them on a reasonable 12" Widescreen

6. Sorry, but one again it sounds like you've only seen mock up images online of PSP games.. in my view they don't actually seem to be really that much difference. (i'll grab some shots from GameSpy in a min)

7. The Second screen allows you to have more going on at once, and given the NDS is STILL half the price of the PSP; looks like Nintendo could've actualled added one hellova lot more if they wanted to.

8. Contact Nintendo, and ask for another one. They tend to send replacement stuff for free within warrenty. Outside of warrently you can expect it to only be a few quid for P&P. Not to mention additional and enhance Screen Pens will be available sometime Q2-2006.

9. Clueless... totally sodding clueless.

Quote: "The PSP failed to add anything new to games except make you play home-console-quality-games on a handheld device, I think that's already an achievement!
DS could have been amazing if Nintendo put alittle more effort in!"


So that's why the PSP only has a handful of games while Nintendo have a huge back catalog of beloved Gameboy titles and new DS titles?

That would also be why the PSP HAS NOT delivered what it promised. It IS NOT a portable Playstation 2, it doesn't even come close to the graphical prowess or power; despite what Sony claimed. Half of the games for it look like Playstation games but with slightly higher poly player models.

Nintendo has something in thier console that even a graphics retard like yourself would drool over that the PSP doesn't.

The GoForce3D GPU. While low powered not allowing it to run AS many polygons as the PSP; what it can provide are real-time shaders like those seen on the GameCube and X-Box. On both screens at once.

Zelda due out early next year will be an additional adventure to The Wind Waker for the DS with cut back-but similar graphics. Nintendogs shows real-time shaders in action.. reflective water, bump mapping, fuzzy toys and animals. Sorry but; it's just simply awesome.

Quote: "Am I the only one who wants to get a DS but doesn't want to use the touch screen? It's gimmicky and useless (in my opinion) to draw in your game, unless an extremely ground-breaking gameplay model is invented from it, which is yet to be seen."


Seems like a gimmic, but isn't used like one.
That's what makes it so good actually, I mean Nintendo will play the angle and such. There were a few first games thater were like 'oooh we've gotta use this feature' and suffered but then the games were hardly ground breakingly cool i the first place.

I think the one that gets the touch screen into it's own is Mario DS.
Might sound strange but being able to control Mario freely with your finger while using the buttons for the actions is cool. Especially when you have some mates running around helping you out. ^_^

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Posted: 8th Jun 2005 05:22
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Quote: "Given Ridge Racer isn't yet out for either console, care to explain how you've come to this conclusion already?"


Tell that to my friend who bought Ridge Racer NDS almost a month ago :-P And several reviews already garner that the NDS version doesn't come close to the PSP version in graphics--- that being said, graphics don't mean squat to people like myself.

Ridge Racer NDS was released 12/2004
Ridge Racer PSP was released 03/2005

In Europe--- who knows really


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Game knows... but as I said they're not out yet, so how could Renegade possibly know what they're like.

Unless he imports them. Not very likely.

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What about the playstation portable(the handheld playstation) I thinkit is awesome
especially since it has that old ps1 game Ape escape that game was awesome(even if graphics were crap)

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Posted: 8th Jun 2005 10:29 Edited at: 8th Jun 2005 10:35
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Quote: "So that's why the PSP only has a handful of games while Nintendo have a huge back catalog of beloved Gameboy titles and new DS titles?"


Tell me, just who the crap is going to bother to buy the DS to play "Beloved Gamboy games"? I could easly pick up a used SP for 40-50. Dunno why you even brought that up.

Right now, neither of the systems looking too good. DS has it's share of crap (WarioWare: Crap. Ridge Racer: Double crap. Metrod Prime: Good.) The PSP does have some good games and I am confident it will outstrip the DS in terms of sales & popularity in about 6 months.

Yeah some people say "If you don't like the DS's touch screen then don't use it! The buttons are still there for you!" Well you know what? That's a sod excuse. I don't want to buy a $200 system that's designed around the extra screen, divides battery life to power the screen, and houses a serperate processor for the "extra screen".

They might as well chuck the ******** screen, lower the price by $80, increase the battery life by 5-8 hours, and bring on some N64 classics and I would buy the thing in a heartbeat. Unfortuantly they are forcing this "Innovation" upon us, that from personal experiance, alot of us don't want to use. Well atleast if we ever need it, it's there, so I can rest easy.

EDIT: It'll actually be good if they produced seperate models, one with 2 screens the other with one. That way, the grade schoolers can have fun prodding the screen like idiots, and the rest of us can flip it out of our pockets, and play Golden Eye or Conker's Bad Fur Day on the train ride to work.

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Quote: "and play Golden Eye or Conker's Bad Fur Day on the train ride to work."


You ride the train to work too? I have to for 3 hours everyday, and there's nothing I'd like more than to get some DS action in there--- except I don't have one and I hate spending money :-P


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The thing that strikes me about the DS is that it's very friendly looking, it just does'nt look cool - the PSP looks cool.

When people look at the handhelds and home consoles, the majority of them would'nt instinctively go for the one that'll have the best games - they go for the one that looks cool, the one that will impress their friends. It's a handheld for the iPOD generation, and that's who'll mostly buy it - people that care little for Mario and even less for Sonic. I mean, you have Nintendo, and their mario style DS games - then you have this little black number from sony with the good graphics and the driving game.

To be honest, the GBA put me right off nintendo handhelds - that screen gave me so many headaches when trying to play doom, I just won't buy a nintendo handheld without a good reason, and the PSP is just a good reason not to buy one. I'm 100% behind nintendo's console efforts, but the handhelds are not indictive of the way I like to spend money - I'd rather buy a PSP than feel cheap every 6 months when nintendo release their new and improved recycled technology again.

I have a spare £400 bucks bonus at the end of this month - so I reckon it'll go on a nice shiny black handheld... BAHHHH!!!! (that was the sound of a sheep btw, instigating that I'm just a pawn who's been seduced by Sony's tinsel, but I blame Nintendo for not making the DS better).


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Quote: "Tell me, just who the crap is going to bother to buy the DS to play "Beloved Gamboy games"? I could easly pick up a used SP for 40-50. Dunno why you even brought that up."


I bring it up because, being able to play your old games is important. I mean if your going to by a handheld console, why are you going to buy it? So you can play sitting at home, or for some entertainment where'ever?

Personally I have it, because the games on my cellphone are boring. So I can just flip in a GBA/DS game and have some fun while waiting for a train or something.

It would take away from the portability to have to carry my SP just to play older games. Imagine if none of them were compatible, but you like a game on each one.. but you werent' sure what you wanted to play.

Would you want to carry around a GBP, GBASP, NDS? all just so you could happily play Mario World, Perfect Dark, or Mario64?
Then we also have the cost..

GB - £2-5
GBC - £5-10
GBA - £10-25
NDS - £25-35

you not only have the choice of game but also a nice range of prices for the games available. Not to mention you don't have to throw all of your games away. So even if the DS is your first handheld you've still got available all those awesome games that made the GB so popular.

Quote: "They might as well chuck the ******** screen, lower the price by $80, increase the battery life by 5-8 hours, and bring on some N64 classics and I would buy the thing in a heartbeat. Unfortuantly they are forcing this "Innovation" upon us, that from personal experiance, alot of us don't want to use. Well atleast if we ever need it, it's there, so I can rest easy"


Here the NDS is £99, and a brand new GB-SP is £70. Honestly that's hardly even the difference of buying the SP with a new game, to that end buying an SP with Zelda or Pokémon means spending £90 on the pack... plus they don't bundle link leads, so another £10-15 for a lead/WiFi connection.

Something you don't have to buy with the NDS.
So effectively if I was going to buy those games I could, for cheaper overall. The battery life of the NDS is around 15hrs, which is actually longer than the 10hrs both my GBA(-SP) have.. plus the default pack is rechargable. Though you have the option for standard AA batteries, the fact is that you've got the recharge unit as standard unlike previous handhelds.

Also on that fact, it lets you know when the battery is about to die. When you take the battery pack out, you have 10seconds of power (this can extend to 30seconds if in paused mode) to put in another pack before the NDS turns off. Meaning you can just swap a freshly charged back and keep playing.

Quote: "To be honest, the GBA put me right off nintendo handhelds - that screen gave me so many headaches when trying to play doom, I just won't buy a nintendo handheld without a good reason, and the PSP is just a good reason not to buy one. I'm 100% behind nintendo's console efforts, but the handhelds are not indictive of the way I like to spend money - I'd rather buy a PSP than feel cheap every 6 months when nintendo release their new and improved recycled technology again."


Hense the GBA-SP. Many people complained over the design of the GBA, as well as the lack of back-lighting which was causing eye-strain.

The NDS combats this with not only back lighting, but light based filter adjustment; and a much higher refresh rate of 60Hz. The GBA originally had a refresh of 16Hz.. Nintendo have gone out of thier way to make the NDS comfortable as possible even over prolonged use.

While sure most kids buy a console to be cool, once the 'cool' factor wears thin they want something they can actually play. The Nintendo Gameboy fills that spot.

Not to mention the propriotry games which were/are fads, like Pokémon.

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Posted: 9th Jun 2005 01:32 Edited at: 9th Jun 2005 01:35
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Quote: "You ride the train to work too? I have to for 3 hours everyday, and there's nothing I'd like more than to get some DS action in there--- except I don't have one and I hate spending money :-P"


I only take it for 20 minutes. To get from west GTA to Toronto Exhibition. Nothing to do on the way, but pickup newspapers left behind.

Quote: "I bring it up because, being able to play your old games is important. I mean if your going to by a handheld console, why are you going to buy it? So you can play sitting at home, or for some entertainment where'ever?"


I understand what you mean. I am saying that since it has "Backwards capability" doesn't mean existing GBA owners would want to make the switch. Especially if there are no Must-have DS games and they don't want to shell out so much on the price tag.

Quote: "The battery life of the NDS is around 15hrs, which is actually longer than the 10hrs both my GBA(-SP)"


People are reporting "6-8 hours of Mario 64 DS and 5-7 with Tiger Woods Golf". While I know from personal experiance of all those hours spent beating Advance Wars that the SP goes atleast for a good 5-10 hours.

Quote: "Here the NDS is £99, and a brand new GB-SP is £70."


Well then, to your disfortune, you seem to live in a very expensive place. My prices here at Best Buy/Wal-Mart/whatever damn store:

DS: $200 CAD
SP (New): $90 CAD
SP (Used): $50-60 CAD
Copy of A Link to the past: $ 20-25
Who the hell other then you plays Pokemon?

Quote: "While sure most kids buy a console to be cool, once the 'cool' factor wears thin they want something they can actually play. The Nintendo Gameboy fills that spot."


Yeah. At the age of 12 I worked my F****** ass of for months to get my first Dreamcast so I can be "Cool".
Yes Raven. I like your thinking. You'd do great work as a marketing executive for some rich fart publisher.

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DS: $200 CAD = $100 USD = £50
SP (New): $90 CAD = $45 USD = £24
SP (Used): $50-60 CAD = $25 USD = £13

Needless to say, I don't think you have a right to complain about the prices your getting your hardware at compared to the rest of us.


That said to me, £99 for a brand new console is ridiculously cheap. The Gameboy Advance hit the market at £150.. so if it were a choice between a GBA-SP and an NDS, it just really isn't much of a contest of which is more worth the cash.

Quote: "Who the hell other then you plays Pokemon"


Quite a few people. I only bought a Gameboy for Pokémon and Zelda, the NDS however has far more creative games for it; that had me instantly attracted to wanting one.

Quote: "People are reporting "6-8 hours of Mario 64 DS and 5-7 with Tiger Woods Golf". While I know from personal experiance of all those hours spent beating Advance Wars that the SP goes atleast for a good 5-10 hours. "


Turn down the brightness from it's Max Setting and the Sound from everyone in the next county being able to hear it and you can make the battery last a lot longer than what the Box says it can.

Hell use headphones and you'll get a good 2hours extra play out of the machine. Turn off the WiFi for games that don't need it, another hour. Use a Recharge pack over regular batteries a good 2hours.

Each adds up. People generally are stupid. It's like my brother was bitching that his SP didn't last more than 6hours, I turned down the backlight for him and it now lasts as long as his GBA. Just a case of making sure to adjust the machines so they don't die quickly.

Even still, I don't play my NDS for that long; never had doubt I ever will. The games are good in short bursts, but until something with some real depth comes along it's only good for mainly distraction and wasting an hour here 'n' there.

Quote: "Yeah. At the age of 12 I worked my F****** ass of for months to get my first Dreamcast so I can be "Cool"."


Heh, I never liked the Dreamcast. Didn't like it when everyone at uni was like amping over it; still don't. If a console doesn't have games that make me want it, then it'll never see my money.

To an extent this is why I didn't buy the PS2 for ages. The only game that I really wanted was FFX. When that was finally released, that's when I got the PS2.. still is one of a very few games I own.

my whole family is the same though, we only go for things we actually want rather than having something just to have it.

I mean what's the point is spending out £300 on an X-Box to be cool to your mates, when that's all it'll be doing. Sitting in the corner, taking up the spot where the TV used to fit doing nothing because you don't like any of the games.

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i think the slimline ps2 is useless but its kind of a neat idea but theres no point to it but sony does not suck period and im not a "sony fan boy" i would pic nintendo over sony ANY day.

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Wait a second... hold your horses Raven. You're talking about backwards compatibility here, right? You CAN'T play original GB or GB Colour games on the DS. You can ONLY play GBA games on the DS. This sucks because I never bought a GBA/SP, and only own original GB games (plus a nifty music sequencer called LSDJ for the GB).

Also--- how are there more 'creative' games for the DS? There are like 14 games for the system, nowhere near the amount to make me comfortable enough to shell out the $200CDN for the system. I'll splurge when Animal Crossing Wi-Fi is released, but I have a bad feeling about the DS in general. If Nintendogs and Elektroplankton are examples of the future of DS gaming, I'll wait for the Xbox handheld MS announced today :-P


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Quote: "Wait a second... hold your horses Raven. You're talking about backwards compatibility here, right? You CAN'T play original GB or GB Colour games on the DS. You can ONLY play GBA games on the DS. This sucks because I never bought a GBA/SP, and only own original GB games (plus a nifty music sequencer called LSDJ for the GB). "


Really? How odd they run on my DS fine, they show up on the bottom screen as they would emulated in the GBA.

Quote: "Also--- how are there more 'creative' games for the DS? There are like 14 games for the system, nowhere near the amount to make me comfortable enough to shell out the $200CDN for the system."


Again, this is weird because Game has around 25 games for it so far with more due over christmas. Quite a few of these and some of the up-comming titles have creative approaches to using the Touch Screen.

Mario 64 for instance is quite interestingly different with 4 Players; not to mention new puzzles and such dedicated to the new functionality.

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Quote: "Really? How odd they run on my DS fine, they show up on the bottom screen as they would emulated in the GBA."


Hmmm--- not according to the offical Nintendo website:

http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/ds/faq.jsp

This is true according to every website I've read about it, and unfortunately there's no "try-before-you-buy" option so I'll never know unless I buy one first


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As usual, Raven travelled to Mars on his IBM spaceship, picked up a local "Martian Times" paper, and brought it back here to share the news.

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Quote: "This is true according to every website I've read about it, and unfortunately there's no "try-before-you-buy" option so I'll never know unless I buy one first"


I guess it's probably using emulation. I dunno I just know that Perfect Dark works fine but shows up as a square screen, as does Pokémon Crystal and Zelda Link to the Past.

They're the only games I have really, but fun.
I've also not had a problem with the WiFi for networking; it connects just fine using Pokémon Ruby.

maybe it's not true for all the games? as I said dunno, I assumed cause I've had not issues with it that it was back compatible.

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Quote: "Wait a second... hold your horses Raven. You're talking about backwards compatibility here, right? You CAN'T play original GB or GB Colour games on the DS. You can ONLY play GBA games on the DS. This sucks because I never bought a GBA/SP, and only own original GB games (plus a nifty music sequencer called LSDJ for the GB)."

Mine doesn't work either. I didn't have very many multiplayer games though, so the removal of that doesn't bother me, and I believe I still have an SP lying around...

Why DS?
Mario 64 multiplayer's fun as hell, Lost in Blue and Trace Memory look awesome, and PSP hurts my eyes. Honest to God, I've only seen two people with a DS, one's a playstation nerd who bought nearly every psx/2 game ever made, and the other only had the football game, which he never played. He only used the system to store his naughty pics.

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As for innovative games, when Viewtiful Joe comes out on the DS I'm sure it will settle that argument. I watched a video on gamespot and by the looks of things its going to be really fun with the new abilities and the graphics look reasonably close to the gamecube aswell. The Vietiful Joe game for the DS will settle this argument when it is released!

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Quote: "Quote: "ps2 are useless all together - go xbox"

That was just plain random!"


umm dude

look at this thread topic, you started off this randomness. i second what mnemonix said.
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Quote: "Those portable PS2's can overheat if you play them for like more than 2 hours. Why the hell sony released them even though they overheat so easily, i dunno. And why they stopped producing the big ps2 for it is even a greater mystery."


my brother uses his PS2 almost every moment he's awake, it hasn't overheated yet.

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are u sure
what if u just havent noticed it yet

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i'm pretty sure i'd notice something like the console overheating. the PS2 used to turn itself off when it overheated.. so i'd assumed the PS2-Slim would too, i mean it gets pretty hot but not overheat.

even if it does... still underwarrenty ^_^

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Yay! GBA Micro sucks! Not sure about PS2 slimline but....yay!

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Was this bump necessary?

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I haven't read through all of this thread (time IS money), but I disagree with you to some extent renegade- my slimline ps2 fits on my shelf- my old playstation 2 didn't, meaning I had to do some amazing acrobatic stunts from the top of my bunk-bed just to change games, etc. However, I wouldn't have had to buy another freakin' ps2 if my old one didn't break inexplicably... about two days after I bought GTA san andreas!!! Sony used to be a good, reliable company... my, how things change over the space of a few years.

"We dads have a saying- You can't fix it 'til you've broken it." Brian Johnson.
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Think you are a bit off there...

Raven :
Quote: "DS: $200 CAD = $100 USD = £50"


XE.com :
Quote: "200.00 CAD Canada Dollars = 91.6971 GBP United Kingdom Pounds"
Oh, and
Quote: "200.00 CAD Canada Dollars = 161.213 USD United States Dollars "


Cheers

I am 99% probably lying in bed right now... so don't blame me for crappy typing
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Since when is the American doller worth twice the Canadian one.

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Since never. The worst it got was $1US = $1.55CDN.


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Posted: 5th Jul 2005 07:01 Edited at: 5th Jul 2005 07:06
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Personally I like Slimline because:
1. I can mod it to play imports without voiding my warranty (Love the fliptop)
2. It's still plays CDs/DVDs(Including burnt ones AKA CD-R/DVD+R, try that on XBOX, or better yet on GC)
3. It came with built in networking(not centralized like XBOX w/subsciption)
4. It also plays PS1 games. (Giving it a bigger library that GC or XBOX)
5.It wasn't 300$ at release
I will by a PS3 at release (It will be backward compatible as well)

That being said, if price is the issue import.
My ratings on the systems are:
1.PS2 Slimline (for reasons above)
2.PS2 (but I like the slime better)
3.XBOX (Gotta love the graphics and other capabilities and mod ops.)
4.GBA SP (GB/GBC/GBA+Backlight=hours of pocket size portable fun)
5.GC (I has a few good games you can't get else where)

I haven't played the DS (or seen a good reason for me to get is as it won't play my GB/GBC games) or the PSP (Smaller than CD disc=limited capability, would been happier with a portable battery powered CD player size PS1 with built in screen and DVD Capability and yes the technology was there).

In sum I like the Slim PS2(my most played system), and GBA SP(second most played), but DS & PSP can lite themselves on fire and jump out a window.

P.S. I think the touch screen is gimmiky as well and also don't like the Super(SNES)/64(N64)/Touched pre&suffixes

Breaking Stuff=Fun!,Bug Testing<>Fun!, Bug Testing=Breaking Stuff, so...
Bug Testing=Fun! Hmmmm....
DOES NOT COMPUTE! SYSTEM MALFUNTION!
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and im not gonna go into why... for the 9 trillionth time..."


why?

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Oh well... I already got enough cash to get a DS, goodbye!

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"Oh hello, I'm a (sony or nintendo) fanboy! I think that (the opposite company) sucks donkey ass for no good reason, only because I'm a (sony or nintendo) fanboy! (Sony or nintendo) rocks so much my head explodes when I think about their awesome! I'm gonna ignore the facts, and stick solely to one company, because (the opposite company) sucks alot!"



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I agree with ionstream.

More tea Vicar?
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Dont Forget DS is not a GB. Nintendo has plans for a even more powerful GB to come out.
And at least DS is not turning out like Nintendo's Virtual Boy console.

I love the DS, I have one and its pretty fun. It comes with a game when you buy it(well a demo of one). And fun Muiltiplyer with the ability to use one cart(for games that support it), which is pretty great. With it being back word to the GBA games makes it even better, but not the GBA to GC connector.
They have some great games coming out for it too.
Lunar(which was for the PSX)
Mario Kart
A japanese game where you use both the GBA and DS caridge. The GBA one is for a sound track in the game.
Plus you have Microsoft going with DS. Look at Rare and Age of Empires. There both going to the DS.(Imagin Perfect Dark on the DS)
And maybe a Secret of Mana game.

With the games all ready out its pretty cool. Bomberman DS with 8 player sigle cart use.

There is so much Versions of Game Boy its funny.
Game Boy
Game Boy Pocket
Game Boy Color
Super Game Boy
Game Boy Advance
Game Boy SP
Game Cube Game Boy Player




PS2 is pretty cool in a way, but not really recommended for muiltiplayer partys and FPS games. Sonys PS2 is more about the RPGs in my opinon.

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Quote: " Dont Forget DS is not a GB. Nintendo has plans for a even more powerful GB to come out."


You mean the one that's basiclly GBA technology crammed inside a highlighter-cap?

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