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Grog Grueslayer
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Posted: 17th Aug 2005 11:20
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Quote: "Having a problem with exposing a child to sex but not violence doesn't make you a hypocrite."


In this case it's not just violence. The strong language, drug use, use of guns to kill people, theft of other peoples property... all in all very anti-social behavior. All this added up makes for a horrible game for kids to play. But we see parents only now going nuts over the fact that the game has hidden content... content so hidden it takes a 3rd party program to see. The parents of kids that have this game shouldn't of gotten the game for their children in the first place. The parents could hear and see how horrible the game is for kids the way it is naturally. This is why I believe parents that only now don't want their kids to play this game are hypocrites. The parents that didn't get the game in the first place aren't.

Cover little Joeys eyes when somebody shows their butt... but don't care if little Joey runs into an 8 lane freeway.

This game without the sexual content unlocked teaches kids the wrong way to live/act.

I personally love the game... it's a good release of aggression. I'm an adult though.
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Quote: "I dont have much of a problem with violence, because I think that most people over react to it. But I wouldn't tollerate any sexual anything for my children. I mean, i'm goign to have the kids play games in their age group (Teen is for kids 13 and under in my book ) Swearing and sexual content are a major no-no in my book."


Sex is more natural than violence... how did we all get here? It wasn't from murdering somebody. You're one of the non-hypocrites. You wouldn't of gotten that game for your kids because of the content without unlocking the sex scenes. And because you probably don't have it (or have it but haven't let your kids even see it)... I have no problems with you screaming for that game to be banned.

I love the game but hate the excessive use of the F-word.

I just hope everybody doesn't think i'm a bad parent for these two messages.
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Posted: 17th Aug 2005 11:51
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Quote: "This is why I believe parents that only now don't want their kids to play this game are hypocrites."


Please, right now go look up the definition of the term 'hypocrite' because you've got it all wrong. There is a major difference between sex and violence and there's no connection saying that you can't approve of violence but not sex, or vice versa for that matter. You're making the assumption that because both can have a negative effect, then people should automatically disapprove of both and that they shouldn't allow one but not the other.

This is similar to the Simpson's episode where Marge petitions to get Itchy & Scratchy banned because of cartoon violence but still thinks Michelangelo's David is fine despite it being a statue of a naked person. Ironically, it's usually the other way around, but the point still stands, you don't nescessarily have to disagree with both.


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Quote: "America has had that superior attitude for longer than George Bush has been around."


one question who was it who gave gta lower ratings america?

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Quote: "Please, right now go look up the definition of the term 'hypocrite' because you've got it all wrong. There is a major difference between sex and violence and there's no connection saying that you can't approve of violence but not sex, or vice versa for that matter. You're making the assumption that because both can have a negative effect, then people should automatically disapprove of both and that they shouldn't allow one but not the other."


This is me justifying my wording (children avert your eyes!): In a broad sense (and I do mean way, way out there) they are. The parents don't want their kids to know about sex... but the fact remains that because these parents are parents means they had sex at least once.

Sex is natural and like everybody else I don't believe kids should learn it from a video game. Parents should step up to the plate and tell their kids about it without the parents being embarrassed about it or making stuff up about sex.

Of course you are right, Exeat... that is the wrong word to use here... I just can't think of anything else to use.

Insane maybe?



Note: I do not condone children having sex... so all you kids on here... keep it in your pants.
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Quote: "America has had that superior attitude for longer than George Bush has been around"


Thats true, cough* vietnam

Those mothers complaining about kids playing adult games always makes me laugh.

'I bought my son jimmy a game for christmas, he was so pleased, one day I came into the room, ooh it was aweful I tell ya, I had to ground him and throw away the aweful awful game, I wanna sue!!!!!'

'Yes mam, um what rating was this game?'

'It was 18'

'How old is your son?'

'9'

Come on do parents buy their kids porno movies for christmas? effing stupid, as for killing someone for selling a virtual weapon thats silly, I wouldn't even kill the person who scammed me on runescape (got him back in the wildy )

I think someone should sue the mothers for introducing highly explicit and mature game to young kids, its just not right, bad parents tut tut (well my parents are'nt bad, they let me play all of the GTA's and watch 18 movies since I was a wee lad, and well they're not bad cos it didn't effect me, those who know me, I hate violence, then again I am weird, I find at school when they teach you about drugs it makes me think, drugs are good, and when listening to marilyn manson I think 'Drugs aren't worth it, not for the high, you get addicted to easily')

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good on you but you need to stop thinking
Quote: "school when they teach you about drugs it makes me think, drugs are good"
and think
Quote: "'Drugs aren't worth it, not for the high, you get addicted to easily'"


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I bought GTA:SA for my son and younger brother, that's a 9 and a 13 year old. Does this make me irresponsible? - I don't think so, because it's all tame compared to reality.

What's more upsetting?...

Playing GTA and having sex with your girlfriend, then dropping her off in Balla country and watch her get killed...

or

Watching horrific acts of terrorism every day on TV.


This is the naughties, and until we can turn on the news and NOT expect bad news, we should'nt really be concearned about how much games affect us. Frankly, if you sit your kid in front of a GTA game and they start showing signs of deviancy, then that's a serious problem with the kids state of mind, not the little bonus mini-game that practically nobody has or will see. Does nobody else think a sex mini-game is actually very very depressing, shows the social skills of the Rockstar coders and people who'd want to play the sex game in a very bad light. It's kinda creepy no?

I wonder who'll get the blame when they find out that kids go to school and talk about sex, swear, and often beat the crap out of each other just like normal people - it's demeaning to assume that our kids are that affected by videogames and when someone in the media who's opinion I respect starts to show concearn I'm gonna keep buying GTA games for the kids, because in terms of how upsetting it is, it's on par with Barbarian2 on the Spectrum IMHO.


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My 8 year old brother gets violent when I deny him Vice City on my PC.


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Quote: "What's more upsetting?...

Playing GTA and having sex with your girlfriend, then dropping her off in Balla country and watch her get killed...

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Watching horrific acts of terrorism every day on TV.
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Watching horrific acts of terrorism on tv everyday is more upsetting yes but i think some not kids who get the game under age go for terroists thems selves not that anyone i know on or off the net will go that way but some will like those london bombers and that some will turn to crime but most will have the desency to know it's just a game

Quote: "My 8 year old brother gets violent when I deny him Vice City on my PC."

same as the above ^

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talking of little brothers getting violent, karl at work had his brother trying to kill him.........but you can't exactly trust what comes outta his mounth......only if his brother suceeded.......


Quote: " Does this make me irresponsible?"

Nope, What I meant is parents who don't want their kids to see it and well let them see it, when its not even legal for the kids to purchase it, is irresponsible

Quote: " good on you but you need to stop thinking"


So if I stop thinking then my mind is open to the media....nooooo!!!!! Well its true about the manson comment,
'I don't like the drugs but the drugs like me' says to me, dude Manson is addicted and is trying to get out, if he's trying to stop, then drugs are bad,

whereas at school it explains the good things more than the bad things, it made me almost think Herion is a good thing, sure your viens shrink, but sounded like its worth it, of course watching Trainspotting, listening to marilyn manson and other things (and my upbringing) made me say WTF? They make it sound good, no wonder most of the people in my year do drugs.

And parents think Marilyn Manson and Movies with drug abuse sets a bad example lol

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Quote: "talking of little brothers getting violent, karl at work had his brother trying to kill him.........but you can't exactly trust what comes outta his mounth......only if his brother suceeded......."

That can't be true Karl made it up and told you it

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its possible, his brother is absolutely mental, of course karl is a complete w***er (not waiter, he's a chef ) so well he's gonna say anything for attention

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Some would argue that there's varying levels of drug use and that Heroin and Cocaine are extremes.

I mean, I don't remember many songs about how cool it is to take hard drugs - but I could name dozens of songs about Marijuana that do just that. Some drugs are simply more socially acceptable and less harmful than others, and the chances are that you'll at some point be offered something. Just remember that alcohol changes your perceptions and can make you wreckless when you'd usually be cautious - anyone at any time could be persuaded to try anything with enough moron-juice in them, basically if you don't know what it does then you should'nt be doing it - and no real friend would harass you to try something you did'nt want. There's so much irony with drug politics that I can't really get into here, at the end of the day there's no recreational drug that is actually good for you, so avoid it all, but don't think for one second that the government is looking out for your best interests.

I mean, 24 hour drinking! - a great idea from our government because the taxation is astronomical on alcohol, but is it any good for normal people who'd rather not binge drink from friday afternoon til Sunday night non-stop. Frankly Scotland does not need any more drinking hours in the day.
Gee thanks Tony, perhaps next year we'll get a free cigarette delivery service as well.


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Quote: "I don't remember many songs about how cool it is to take hard drugs - but I could name dozens of songs about Marijuana that do just that. "


Is that legal?

and good on you tony balir is a stupid f******g priminster that doesn't know what he is talking about

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Quote: "I mean, I don't remember many songs about how cool it is to take hard drugs"


'we all live in a yellow submarine'

wow they made us sing about that in primary school, not realising its about drugs....

I don't think marilyn manson is influencing the use of drugs, like alice cooper he sings to relate to teens, and weirdo 'i wanna sue everyone' parents take it the wrong way and stereotype it.....

as for 24hour drinking, its gonna keep my boss awake! and as Squidward on Spongebob said 'Who would want a krabby pattie at 4 am in the morning?'

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Quote: "'we all live in a yellow submarine'"


that isn't is it?

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isn't what, we all live in a yellow submarine is a song by the beetles singing about a drug nick named 'yellow submarine' and I find it funny we had to sing it in assemblies at primary school lol

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Yah that is quite an interesting thing. Drugs are a major thing where I live, here in British Columbia Drugs are everywhere and such every fifth house is a grow op and its our largest industry yet wed rather go after GTA then go after the drug dealers hmmm what does this say about society?

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I like killing the drug dealers for money on there


I agree society sux, I got a lot to say about society, but don't know what to say, will prolly rattle a few cages, write too much and drift of into government and religion.

So why not just use the conclusion 'society sux'

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Thats a good one seppuku "society Sux" everyone will take that seriously with the bad spelling lol. And killing Drug dealers in GTA is like a national sport.

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I find GTA less of an inspiration, more of something to take anger out on, last time I played GTA was......oh dunno......Its been ages since I played anyway. I find GTA is actually a good way to calm down and in its self is fun, but going round killing people gets boring after a while. I would never support any of the action in the game.

And well, the reason I won't explain 'society sux' on here because it'll repeat my religion thread, and this would not be the place to post. Plus where would I start, chavs, media, government, morality in schools etc

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Quote: "isn't what, we all live in a yellow submarine is a song by the beetles singing about a drug nick named 'yellow submarine' "


Although there was a drug known as 'yellow submarines' that appeared just after the album was released, The Beatles have denied the song being about the drug, Paul McCartney even claimed he'd never heard of the drug before. I really don't see it being about drugs, when they have hits like 'Twist and Shout', I can't see their other songs being any deeper or having hidden meanings.


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Erm, Strawberry Fields?

Lucy in the sky with diamonds?
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Have you ever listened to these?!!! - they're clearly about LSD, probably the Beatles fave drug - for some reason I love both these songs and I'm not a huge Beatles fan, I like those trippy 60's tunes.


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Quote: "Have you ever listened to these?!!! - they're clearly about LSD, probably the Beatles fave drug "


No, I don't listen to The Beatles so I've never heard those songs, and I've never taken LSD so I can't really comment. However, this page seems to show you are correct, so I shall proceed to retract my previous statement:

http://www.beatlesagain.com/bmyths.html


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I see its not actually about the yellow submarine, but well they still sung about drugs as VanB shows

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Quote: "No, I don't listen to The Beatles so I've never heard those songs"


*double take*

You've never heard Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds!? If this is sarcasm I surely didn't get it


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heh thats a good one jeku man, but yes I also have to agree that I never listened to the beatles, I prefer stuff like the 60-80 vietnam era music like CCR and Jefferson Airplane and Ten Years After is a personal favourite, mind u they all did drugs more than the beatles but At least most of the songs arent Drug songs, their Hippie songs.

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To be honest i listen to meatloaf and modern rock

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Meatloaf!

Get the net!!!



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aggghhhhh my eyes burn seeing those words, AGGGGHHHHH MY EYES!!!!!

Have you any mercy.....just playing with ya, I'm not a meatloaf fan.

I do believe we are going off topic, mods are lagging recently tut tut, not setting the example, and yes I know drugs and music has a connection with GTA, but no

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well lets gets back on topic gtasa isn't as bad as vc i think but that's just my opion

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Quote: "Anybody for McDonalds?"


McDonalds were installed in many countries under brute force..
Like almost everything USA's government did and does..
North american people have no blame about that, I know..
But they always come "cold" with all of those paranoias
that they call "American way of life" (or something like that)..

I did know that USA's schools usually teach that Amazônia
(the largest natural reserve in the world) belongs to USA

And they usually say that in Brasil the people live like monkeys
and that almost all of us are black slaves (Argentina does
this, too)..

Ok:
Amazônia (they are trying to steal the forest); Iraq war (only for petroliferous intentions);
McDonalds (they wanna get money, money is the most important to USA);
Base de Alcântara (Brasil were FORBIDDEN of knowing what they
did in our territory (21 people died in the explosion));
ALCA (they wanna take control over all the money??);
What about the atomic bombs? No, we didn't forget that..

I don't hate north american people..
I hate Bush and that pathetic "American Dream" / "The best way to do" / and "THE American Way Of Life" (tm)(or something like that)

Is stepping on the people like Bush does the right way?


And these are few (from the many) reasons for
many people to hate USA.. But the north american
people are just victims of their own conception
of satisfaction..

Just victims..
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I agree with Joel..

And I think that at a certain age, the kid can be free to discover
what it wants.. Blocking curiosity is wrong in many cases..
But a game can be influence for kids with "malleable mind"..
So this is why everything can be distributed into age groups.

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It sadly depends a bit on how mature the kid is. If they're well balanced then they find things to do in games like GTA that are not necesserily worrying or violent. Like attacking someone to bring on an ambulance so they can steal it and do the medic missions - it's not as if they enjoy the killing part, it's more that smacking the old woman with the dildo is the easiest way to get an ambulance.

Parents ultimately are in control of what their kid witnesses and takes part in - there's no excuse when kids are involved. There's been far worrying mistreatment of kids because if games these days. God damn layabout MMORPG gimps leaving their toddler at home all day for example. I was more shocked at a dog simulator thing on PS2 than anything in GTA:SA - like taking a dump then picking it up in your doggy mouth and throwing it at passing people. It's media's parogative to highlight the distasteful to sell stories, videogames have been getting it in the ear forever. If a parent is happy to let their kid play whatever game they like then that's just asking for trouble. I'm probably unlike most parents in that games are a part of my life, so it's me that buys his games. He's loves GTA like he loves Harvest Moon and being bad in Fable - it's gameplay ultimately, escapism in whatever form takes your fancy, as long as your not mentally ill there's no real chance of being infected with 'evil'.


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Quote: ". I was more shocked at a dog simulator thing on PS2 than anything in GTA:SA - like taking a dump then picking it up in your doggy mouth and throwing it at passing people"

What dog game was that Dog's Life?

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@Lord, intense stuff, all true, and well you said it better than I could, I'd prolly wouldda made it so people misinterrpret, and well I think this world is f***** up due to a lot of things america (as a country, not individuals) UK and other governments have done, and well they greedy old fart and when innocent people die it 'collateral damage' they got in the way of money, so they die, and well, I can't be arsed to go on, as I am tired, gotta get up early for me holiday.....But I agree with you and would like to add more to it. Well hopefully they will care one day, or be replaced by people who do care.

Just to add, I think US politics is silly, you only have two parties, what if both are completely useless, you can't get what you want, to me thats not democracy, well some may have heard me say that we live in a facist democracy

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Quote: "McDonalds were installed in many countries under brute force..
Like almost everything USA's government did and does..
North american people have no blame about that, I know..
But they always come "cold" with all of those paranoias
that they call "American way of life" (or something like that).."


Are you sure McDonals was forced on other countries? Here's a McDonalds webpage in India. If McDonals was forced on India there would only be one location... yet on this page there are many:

http://www.mcdonaldsindia.com/rlocator/index.html

Quote: "I did know that USA's schools usually teach that Amazônia
(the largest natural reserve in the world) belongs to USA "


That's a new one on me... they must of started teaching that after I graduated.

Quote: "And they usually say that in Brasil the people live like monkeys
and that almost all of us are black slaves (Argentina does
this, too).."


The only people that say that are members of KKK (I never say that).

Quote: "And these are few (from the many) reasons for
many people to hate USA.. But the north american
people are just victims of their own conception
of satisfaction.. "


I think the #1 reason is we suport Israel 100%... and the rest of the world hate Israel.
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Quote: "Just to add, I think US politics is silly, you only have two parties, what if both are completely useless, you can't get what you want, to me thats not democracy, well some may have heard me say that we live in a facist democracy"


Actually America is not a Democracy we're a Republic. A Democracy is where all people have an equal say in the leadership. Since we're a Republic we are dictated by the rich and powerful... under the guise of Democracy. Yes, we are free to do as we want but ultimately the freedom is determined by how much money and power you have.

Take OJ Simpson... we all know he murdered his wife yet he's free. We all know Michael Jackson is guilty... yet he's free. They are both rich and powerful people. If a person is convicted of murder he/she gets out in 2 years(at the least)... steal electricity from Edison and you get 30 years. See the difference? One is murdering a nobody and the other is stealing from a large company. The rich make the rules... the rich benifit the most from the rules... that's America in a nutshell.

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Quote: "That's a new one on me... they must of started teaching that after I graduated."

huahua funny maybe.. but I have sources, dude..
I have sources..

..:edited due misspell :..

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Quote: "Take OJ Simpson... we all know he murdered his wife yet he's free. We all know Michael Jackson is guilty... yet he's free. They are both rich and powerful people. If a person is convicted of murder he/she gets out in 2 years(at the least)... steal electricity from Edison and you get 30 years. See the difference? One is murdering a nobody and the other is stealing from a large company. The rich make the rules... the rich benifit the most from the rules... that's America in a nutshell.
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That's why america is strange lol

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I'm not the first person to mention this, but I am utterly digusted at the morals being shown by the censors and people complaining about this in America.

So let me get this straight:

1. It is fine for their children to play an adult only rated game.
2. It is fine for them to be encoraged in the game to steal vehicles.
3. It is fine for them to be encoraged in the game to deal narcotics.
4. It is fine for them to be encoraged in the game to beat people to death.
5. It is fine for them to be encoraged in the game to kill prostitutes.

BUT....

6. It is NOT fine for them to have consensual sex?

So pretty much the only thing NOT illegal in the game is the thing getting them worked up? That grandddmother needs her head examined, shes got some serious issues there!


PS I love the GTA games, I'm just saying that if they deem all the violence and illegality as ok for their kids to play,why the hell are they moaning about a harmless carry on style humor mini game that would not have affected the age rating anyway?

How do I know it wouldn't have affected the age rating? Well look at games based on Sex, the Singles games for example, or Lola (I think she was called that, rubbishy sex simulator game a few years back), or Playboy Mansion (the latter which i haven't played but I imagine would have sexual content) They all had the same rating on the states as the recent GTA games.

Cheers, Sam

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Yeah but the thing it can't work out is the sims on ps2 has full 3d sex (Censsored) and that got a rating 7+ so what the heck do people compalin about this for?

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The reason we have the whole anti-sex thing because sex is much more publicly awkward, then say, beating a homeless person to death with a stolen wallet.


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Yeah well

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"sex is much more publicly awkward, then say, beating a homeless person to death with a stolen wallet." LMAO

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Can we get on topic please

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wtf? I was being on topic...
"you don't have to get the mods mentioned here what's all the fuss?"

The fuss is because "sex is much more publicly awkward, then say, beating a homeless person to death with a stolen wallet."

He simply answered your question in a humorous way, so I laughed at it.

I'm sorry if it was a waste of a post just to laugh but I thought it warranted a response for its dry wit around the touchy subject.

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Sorry about that i didn't realize what it meant and only just worked it out

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no problem

I think its interesting to note that Rockstar have made all new versions of San Andreas with the Hot Coffee potential removed. It would be interesting to see how long it takes to filter into those copies in shops and also to see how much the value of the older versions increases, as surely some people will want to pay a higher price for the original versions. Maybe it will become a collectors item in the future. I've already seen ebay listings specifically mentionning that their versions include the original code not the censored version...

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That's good that the value for them will go up because i managed to get the original when it came out

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