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ALPHA ZERO PRODUCTIONS
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Posted: 25th Aug 2005 07:19 Edited at: 25th Aug 2005 07:20
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something like that happend to me once......they tied me to a tree and started beating me with a baseball bat , they they shot me 20 times with a paintball gun . then i cut the rope while they weren't looking and jumped the fence and ran home


things are worse in florida.

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whose they, and if you are still alive and making maps after that your one tough S.O.B

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Posted: 25th Aug 2005 16:14 Edited at: 25th Aug 2005 16:14
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@Jimmy
Nowhere in my post did I condone drug use, nor did I say that I am a drug user. My point was that if you have no experience of drug culture you are only going to make yourself look like a moron by saying ludicrous things. As a general rule you shouldn’t mouth off about any subject you don’t understand, in your case that probably means keeping quiet the vast majority of the time.
You did make the classic anti drugs statement though, it goes like this. "Having had no experience of drugs I can say with absolute certainty that they have nothing to offer."

Like I said badly educated, ill informed and now it seems incapable of reading more than a few lines of text without wandering off.

@Jeku
Your grammar is so poor I don’t fully understand exactly what point you are trying to make but I’m sure it sounded very cleaver in your head.

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Posted: 25th Aug 2005 18:13 Edited at: 25th Aug 2005 18:13
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Your grammar is so poor I don’t fully understand exactly what point you are trying to make but I’m sure it sounded very cleaver in your head."


Trust me Nemo, once you learn the actual English language, the text becomes understandable.


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That story should be put in a book....

Don't believe a word said about that.

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Posted: 25th Aug 2005 19:12 Edited at: 25th Aug 2005 19:18
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i cant function until i've had a strong coffee (or 2)
i cant function until i've had a ciggy
i cant function until i've had a cup of tea
i NEED chocolate

addicted, just like a druggie, so what's the difference.

you have a coffee, i smoke a doober
you eat chocolate, i'll eat some hash
you drink a bottle of beer, i have some grass tea.

i enjoy what i do, just like you prolly enjoy that coffee or tea, but i have to watch my back because some idiot deemed my plant illegal. and i have to hide it away from a supposedly understanding society. What about my right to consume whatever i want and be happy with who i am. NO. The government make me a criminal for the choice of herbs i ingest. and an uneducated and unexperienced section of society just play along. if the government say it's bad then it must be. that's a violation of my civil liberties and rights as a human to experience all this planet has to offer. in effect we have censored nature. that can't be right.

please visit norml.org

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Posted: 25th Aug 2005 19:39
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Quote: " @Jimmy
Nowhere in my post did I condone drug use, nor did I say that I am a drug user. My point was that if you have no experience of drug culture you are only going to make yourself look like a moron by saying ludicrous things. As a general rule you shouldn’t mouth off about any subject you don’t understand, in your case that probably means keeping quiet the vast majority of the time.
You did make the classic anti drugs statement though, it goes like this. "Having had no experience of drugs I can say with absolute certainty that they have nothing to offer."

Like I said badly educated, ill informed and now it seems incapable of reading more than a few lines of text without wandering off.

@Jeku
Your grammar is so poor I don’t fully understand exactly what point you are trying to make but I’m sure it sounded very cleaver in your head."


Right, you're saying my view of drug use is WRONG. The alternative arguement being that it's OK to use illegal drugs. Thus, that's right, thus, you are condoning it. I may have never tried them, but I've been plenty exposed to them and just from watching people high on shrooms, marijuana and cocaine, I decided it wasn't for me and that it's an incredibly unintelligent way to spend the best years of your life. I believe any time your body is dependent upon a foreign substance, that you could do without, you've got a problem.

Oh, and way to avoid Jeku's point by taking a stab at his bad grammar. Oh wait, WHAT bad grammar? You stupid moron. You are high right now, aren't you? Come back when you're sober and bring the doritos with you.


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Quote: "I believe any time your body is dependent upon a foreign substance, that you could do without, you've got a problem."


Well said.

Quote: "Oh, and way to avoid Jeku's point by taking a stab at his bad grammar. Oh wait, WHAT bad grammar? You stupid moron. You are high right now, aren't you? Come back when you're sober and bring the doritos with you."


Pwnage.


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Posted: 25th Aug 2005 20:01
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Quote: "I believe any time your body is dependent upon a foreign substance, that you could do without, you've got a problem."


Just out of interest, does that include having a coffee every morning?

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If you collapse on the 4 minute walk to the train station without a coffee, then yes.


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i'm sorry but i've never seen anyone 'high' of pot, it's a relaxant, a soother, it don't make you want to kill people or rob gas stations or make you run all over town like a loony, in fact, i wrote nanopod while smoking pot and it's been stickied just like the bud i smoke. Right then, my head must be wasted and my mind messed up because i have smoked pot for almost 18 years now. but how can this be? i can still write a game that's well liked, and if anything the relaxed state of mind allows me to explore a lot more of my potential as a human. POT is a tool used by most of your favourite musicians to gain inspiration from the almost spiritual feeling pot can provide you with. artists also dabble in psycotropic drugs, just visit an art college, you won't see much in the way of violence there. but you'll see a lot of well educated people using drugs in a social context. Now i'm not condoning the use of drugs, they are not for everyone. but a lot of people including myself have been pigeonholed into a 'drug culture' which to be honest is absolute crap and simply don't exist in the way it's being touted by the media. After all the media is the biggest lie ever told. (fox annouced bush's win before the count had even finished) yes i watched it live. and what about the owner of the WTC buildings comments just after 911 'building 6 was unstable so we pulled it' that was only seen once on TV and never repeated, in fact it was swept under the carpet. and the comments made by the NY firefighters just after the WTC first tower collapsed, 'IT was like demolition charges, boom boom boom boom all the way down the building like it was a controlled demolition. again only seen once and then swept under the carpet by the powers that be. believe the media and believe a lie, after all the media is practically owned by the politicians. and they want you to think the same as them.

do your head a favour and think for yourselves.

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Quote: "Just out of interest, does that include having a coffee every morning?"


That depends. Do you need the coffee to wake up in the morning? Would going without it for a few days be difficult? Or is it something you just enjoy having in the morning and waking up is no problem?


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Quote: "a lot of people including myself have been pigeonholed into a 'drug culture' which to be honest is absolute crap and simply don't exist in the way it's being touted by the media. After all the media is the biggest lie ever told."


Why are you assuming we got all out immpressions of drugs from the media?

Some of us watched "Pot" force friends to drop out of scool, get fired from their job, destroy their families, and lose possibly the only real friends they had. Please don't assume that just because you get "wild coding fantasys" from getting high, that other people don't get violent. Because they do.


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Posted: 25th Aug 2005 20:27
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i dont get 'high', i sit in my room, roll a doob and do creative things, I have never witnessed a friend loose a job or family through cannabis, but i've seen it with crack, heroine and other 'hard' drugs, pot is so benign it's laugable.

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Quote: "i'm sorry but i've never seen anyone 'high' of pot, it's a relaxant, a soother, it don't make you want to kill people or rob gas stations or make you run all over town like a loony, in fact, i wrote nanopod while smoking pot and it's been stickied just like the bud i smoke. Right then, my head must be wasted and my mind messed up because i have smoked pot for almost 18 years now. but how can this be? i can still write a game that's well liked, and if anything the relaxed state of mind allows me to explore a lot more of my potential as a human. POT is a tool used by most of your favourite musicians to gain inspiration from the almost spiritual feeling pot can provide you with. artists also dabble in psycotropic drugs, just visit an art college, you won't see much in the way of violence there. but you'll see a lot of well educated people using drugs in a social context."


I just don't see how bombarding your brain with chemicals can be beneficial. Especially in the long run. I understand that while you're on it you may experience a temporary kind of clarity, but if you require a drug to complete tasks and receive inspiration for the things that are important to you, whether it be writing lyrics or software, then maybe that's not who you really are, or that's not what you're supposed to be doing. If it doesn't come naturally, then it isn't you. My opinion.


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Posted: 25th Aug 2005 20:34 Edited at: 25th Aug 2005 20:36
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Quote: " i dont get 'high', i sit in my room, roll a doob and do creative things,"


If you smoke some weed, then have the experiance you just described, that's called 'getting high'.

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I agree with what Jimmy said. If you can't come up with a creative peice of music or art the way god intended you to, then you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.


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i go for long periods without having a smoke, and still do all the same things. pot is my vice, just like another man may like cigarettes, just like another man will drink coffee. I don't need it, I can do without it, the simple fact is it's a nice sensation and makes me feel relaxed. but i'm discriminated against because of the legallity of the substance.

also for your info.

THC (tetrahydrocannobinols) and their various isomer forms fit into receptors in the brain that no other chemical fits. there is no other chemical in nature that can land on these receptors in the brain. at least i'm giving them a workout.

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Quote: "THC (tetrahydrocannobinols) and their various isomer forms fit into receptors in the brain that no other chemical fits. there is no other chemical in nature that can land on these receptors in the brain. at least i'm giving them a workout."


And that's supposed to be a good thing?

Just so you know, I have nothing against you personally, geecee, I just believe that pot and other drugs are completely unneccessary for us to function happily and normally.


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opinions are important and that's what it's all about, CHOICES! and freedom to choose, thanks jimmy for a most stimulating debate, there is no right or wrong only the opinions we have.

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Let's all go for a joint now.


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you know how funny the whole pot thing is, recently i had to undergo a few hospital procedures for suspected chrones disease. my weight had crashed to 45kilos and I was on the verge of starvation even though I was eating a sensible diet. I was not smoking pot or indulging in any other illicit or legal drugs due to the fact I was ill with something seemingly serious. the problem lay with a protien of some sort and seemed to sort itself out. but I was still very much underweight. My doctor advised me to start taking an anti-depressant drug called mirtazipine which would help me put on some weight and give me a healthy appetite.(when your so run down eating becomes a mission) I told my doctor I didn't fancy the idea much, but if that's what he wanted me to do then I would. he then mentioned cannibis as an appetite aid, and also advised me of legal issues concerning the use of cannibis, he basically told me to smoke pot go get my appetite up, which it does effectivley. so i took his advice and used the anti-depressant drug to gain some weight, I also started smoking cannibis again, and that really helped, i'm now a whopping 54 kilos after a month and a half of anti-depressants, and the occasional spliff. pot has actually helped me in this case, and i'm now having the anti-depressant dose reduced gradually to avoid shocking my system. I'll continue to smoke cannibis as both a medicinal tool and a source of personal pleasure. I don't feel like i'm doing anything wrong, I simply feel hard done by because something that has so much potential in medical science and social de-stressing still remains illegal. the pace of decriminalisation must be stepped to allow people to use 'soft' drugs in a medical and social context.

fortuately i'm not small minded and can see the other side of the argument. indeed, smoking pot can lead to harder drugs. but this is not true for everyone. in order to manage the 'drug problem' we have to have a balance. being properly educated on the pluses AND negatives of drug use in a personal and social context. Most important of all, you have to be allowed the chance to experience things if you so desire. to be denied something can make it very desireable no matter how illegal it is, also illegality adds value to the product. this is the problem with prohibition. I'd like to see government take control of the 'drug culture' in a positive way, by providing quality controlled drug products being made available through licensed outlets that are properly managed, and have enough information from both sides of the fence to satisfy even the most information hungry. In my opinion this would aid the government in tackeling other social issues like the crime acssociated with drugs in their illegal state. by removing the income of the drug barons through government backed outlets, many of the anti-social aspects of drugs can be removed very quickly and painlessly.

then you will only be left with choices.

and you gotta have choices, or there is no real freedom at all.

thanks and peace to both sides of the fence.

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Posted: 25th Aug 2005 22:29 Edited at: 25th Aug 2005 22:30
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I honestly don't have a problem with cannabis being legalized for medicinal purposes. But the inherent problem is because of how potent it is and the reputation it's been given, it would be very specialized and very expensive, and end up being sold on the black market anyway. Like Loratab, for example.

Very few people would actually have it administered to them, and a good chunk of them would end up selling it. Only now, people who abuse it will have the justification that it's "legal." Alcohol is legal, but dangerous when abused and I think that's what people are trying to avoid when keeping marijuana illegal. I believe banning the substance now and keeping it banned, before it becomes as big a problem as alcohol, is the right answer. I'm sure, in most cases, there are medicinal alternatives to cannabis, which is good enough reason to keep it banned in the medical world as well. Or at least keep it under wraps


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Your grammar is so poor I don’t fully understand exactly what point you are trying to make but I’m sure it sounded very cleaver in your head."


*double take*

I would be very interested in a detailed explanation of the poor grammar in that post. Because I'm typing most of these from work, with people interrupting me every 20 seconds, I must warn you that there may be one or two mistakes in my posts.

Oh yeah, and I still think you need to get a life. If you consider a proper debate rebuttal as correcting somebody's grammar, then you know your argument has little or no basis.


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how about this great idea!, ban cigerettes what would be the downside? government get less taxes? shops have less sales?


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it was legal for hundreds of thousands, millions of years even. it's a natural growing plant and cannibis growing could solve the oil crisis overnight (well in about 14 weeks) but america would hate any upset in the oil industry, anything that threatens the value of their coinage. and like god said, all seed bearing plants have been put on earth for man to use as he sees fit. My definition of fit differs from yours, that's all, do you believe in god, the bible and stuff, if you do and your against pot your a hypocrite. god made pot, man made it illegal. in effect GOD IS WRONG!!! is that what's being said here?, hmm i wonder what god thinks of us now. "hey, GOD made it for us, but if you smoke it, i'm gonna throw yur ass in jail."

BTW i'm an athiest, but like I said I can see it from all angles. i have no pre-programmed mind set, and if an argument comes about that actually holds water on the subject, then I may change my general view of cannibis. hell it's not that potent, you have to remember there has never been a recorded incident of 'he smoked pot and died from it." in fact the only recorded cannibis death is a truck driver who got crushed with several tonnes of the stuff.

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Quote: "it was legal for hundreds of thousands, millions of years even. it's a natural growing plant and cannibis growing could solve the oil crisis overnight (well in about 14 weeks) but america would hate any upset in the oil industry, anything that threatens the value of their coinage. and like god said, all seed bearing plants have been put on earth for man to use as he sees fit. My definition of fit differs from yours, that's all, do you believe in god, the bible and stuff, if you do and your against pot your a hypocrite. god made pot, man made it illegal. in effect GOD IS WRONG!!! is that what's being said here?, hmm i wonder what god thinks of us now. "hey, GOD made it for us, but if you smoke it, i'm gonna throw yur ass in jail.""


God also made poison ivy and man-eating sharks. Maybe cannabis wasn't meant for humans. If it was, then it's being abused. Like I was trying to say earlier, if it's neccessary to use for the well being of the person and there are no other alternatives, then go ahead, but that doesn't change the fact that it is still a mind impairing substance that shouldn't be abused for the safety of the general public. Like Nyquil's warning that we shouldn't operate heavy machinery after use.

Quote: "hell it's not that potent, you have to remember there has never been a recorded incident of 'he smoked pot and died from it."


If it's not that potent then why do people smoke it?


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Quote: "and like god said, all seed bearing plants have been put on earth for man to use as he sees fit"

i dont ever remember hearing anything about "as he sees fit" in the bible...but he did say that everything was put on the earth for a reason...
example: alcohol is here for cleaning wounds, not for a "awesome" weekend at the party.
and drugs are here for health reasons

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im with geecee3 about the whole 9/11 thing, i dont have a problem with pot its just that some people dont know when to stop and they eventually work their way up to the 'hard drugs' at which point it becomes a problem

but all the 'hard drugs' are artificial and refined anyway which is probably why they are so dangerous.
plus when other people said the thing about needing a foriegn substance - food and water are foreign substances along with vitamins and most minerals, but you need them to survive, so where do you draw the line, you can live without some of them, like zinc but taking them either alone or with food will enhance you livelihood just as some other substances. you use refined sugar dont you?

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and poison ivy and man eating sharks only get you in areas where you dont belong

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Quote: "plus when other people said the thing about needing a foriegn substance - food and water are foreign substances along with vitamins and most minerals, but you need them to survive, so where do you draw the line, you can live without some of them, like zinc but taking them either alone or with food will enhance you livelihood just as some other substances. you use refined sugar dont you?"


That's why I was careful to say, "I believe any time your body is dependent upon a foreign substance, that you could do without, you've got a problem."

And that's what my whole argument has been about. Being dependent upon something that is unneccessary for bodily function.


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The body requires certain things in order for you to survive. These require a dependancy. But that also doesn't mean there isn't a limit on what your body can handle. As for other items, a dependency would be unhealthy. If a gup of coffee helps you get up in the morning and you believe in using it, then its fine. If you have to have a cup to get up, then something is wrong.

As for the use of illegal drugs, as you have been saying yourself geecee3, you do have the option of using them. How wise it is is another matter. You mentioned the freedom of using these drugs. Well like I mentioned before, where's the freedom of not having control of you mind. And is absolute freedom always a good thing. Cages at the zoo aren't always ment to keep us from harming the animals. Restrictions help protect us. If everyone had the freedom to do whatever they want, then there would be a lot of murderers, molesters, and other sicko's on the streets all because there freedoms have no restrictions.
On the other hand, here in america we have the right to believe in the freed om of a free enviroment. The right to be able to walk down the street and know that the laws made will help protect us.

Mostly what I'm trying to say is:
FREEDOM FOR ALL IS NOT THE RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WHEN YOU WANT TO.

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After being regular army those weekend warriors are nothing but a bunch of punks the only action they see is a legal rave.

From the sound of it looks like something the president would authorize that idiot. But those weekend warriors committed alot of crimes from what i read attacking civilians will get you years in pensicola or however its spelled. If this becomes big news alot of people are going to jail thats for sure.

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Quote: "dont sweat it, i dont know the details of utah, only documentaries on tv which depict a biased view of the religous standards there.

I dont know what really happenned so i cant comment, however from the footage of people being beaten by multiple armed officers makes me sick and i fail to see why i would want to visit america if thats what happens in the heart of the united states.

I feel some sepos have forgotten the principles behind the USA, land of the free is more land of the slave.
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The only reason armed forces people get away with it is because they lie for each other ( i know from experience) i was in the regular army i would never do anything like that even if ordered to beat a civilian i would report to a higher ranking officer and report the person who gave me an unlawful order.

But those weekend warrior people need a good beating nothing but a bunch of punks and losers sure they go into the army but cannot keep integrity.

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Quote: "From the sound of it looks like something the president would authorize that idiot. But those weekend warriors committed alot of crimes from what i read attacking civilians will get you years in pensicola or however its spelled. If this becomes big news alot of people are going to jail thats for sure.
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First off, it was SWAT and other law enforcement, not the National Guard. So, second, no, it didn't come from the president. And third, you're a moron.


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what idiot?

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Uhh didnt he post that national guard was there i could sworn it was posted or maybe on the DJ's little post on that linked page but whatever eaither way the weekend warriors are jackasses....and btw calling me a moron dosnt do much i was in the army i still hate civilians like you!....who call people morons.

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Quote: "That's why I was careful to say, "I believe any time your body is dependent upon a foreign substance, that you could do without, you've got a problem.""


Muffins for Jimmy.

I still stand by what I said, in that video the police weren't bringing the beatdown on that girl and others like all the ravers are saying they did.


You know why drugs are sort of bad in general?

1. Many studies say so; people have talked about this already.

2. It affects your mental state. You may not be completely aware of what you're doing. You wake up the next morning...oops! You're in jail. Because you did drugs? No, because you did something illegal you didn't know about while you were on drugs. Then they found out about the drugs You may be happy on ecstacy, but bad stuff still happens when people take it, one good example is the reports of sexual assault from every major news source with an article on the event.


Also, don't go to rave parties even if you don't use drugs. It's called guilty by association.


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Yeah he assumed they were national guard because the swat members were in camo, but the guard wasn't involved. I know, because my brother is in the guard. And, as it happens, he's not a jackass. He spent over a year in Iraq and is probably going to go back if the war continues over the next few years. He's glad to do it, too. While you just sound like a bitter coward. Regular army sure makes a regular man out of you.


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Uhh yeah i have my DD214 to prove it buddie and a nice little injury so before you go off making me look like a jackass maybe you should know more about it i was at fort benning GA 1/50 infantry buddie.

So you know what jimmy i used to think you where a cool guy but you know what. **** YOU this is why the army hates civilians its true. You all expect so much but get so little....i got an idea since your so proud you go join the army pal. Then you'll see what i mean. I hate it when people do this to me. They assume on little to no facts. Its dumb and shows how ignorant you really are....so just don't reply....

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Excuse me, you called everyone in the national guard jackasses and I called you a coward. Who's ignorant? I made an intelligent assumption based on how you've conducted yourself and you made a big nasty generalization based on a bias you allowed to be ingrained into your personality during basic. These people are every bit a soldier as you were and when the war's on, everyone goes full time anyway.

Quote: "i got an idea since your so proud you go join the army pal."


You have no idea how much I would like to join the army, but I can't. Not for a fews years anyhow.

Quote: "**** YOU this is why the army hates civilians its true"


So, if you hate civilians and you hate the national guard, as well as the other branches of the military, who's left to love?

Anyway, open your eyes and lift your bias, then let's get back to the original topic, which was how all ravers should be imprisoned for associated drug use and sentenced to death for dancing like idiots.


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I never said i hated any other branch and i never said i hated the national guard i just said they where jackasses =)

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Ditto my friend ditto.....

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any substance is dangerous when used in excess..... wikipedia gluttony....

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So the US is a police state...

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sure is

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This has anything to do with what?

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Yeah way to follow the thread you friggin moron.

I'm just going to put a gold star next to this one to go along with the gold start next to your "Good call." post from yesterday, because that's just grade A bull crap. In fact, your ability to portray such a flagrant retard should get you an Oscar and make the likes of Dustin Hoffman and Sean Penn pine.


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My brother is a cop, has been for 20+ years, he's the "old man" on the joint (40 yr old) He always says, "if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.. then it probally is a duck. Especially if it's with other ducks"

His daughter got arrested because she was with some friends who had secretly stashed some pot in their car. Got busted (naturally), she got hauled off the the station like everybody else. 'Course the cops were laughing their arses off about it, "sheriff's daughter" and all


At any rate, go Jimmy go! Today, I think, is a two cookie day for jimbo.


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rave: to talk wildy as in delirium (Merriam-Webster)
Now why would you go an event named a rave? Something about "legal" and "rave" just don't go together.

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Well I understand you mentioned your brother was in the guard to prove that "you would know" they were not there, but why you had to go into such detail about it when it adds absolutely nothing to any point of this thread is beyond me. Anyway, not to steal the thread...

Targeting a rave IS understandable over targeting a school because rave's ARE known to have drugs and illegal substances widely available. School's are often too, but they are better at handling it. All the same, I think the force used was far too extensive for such a bust.

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Did you even read the post I was responding to? Do you know what a 'weekend warrior' is? It's pretty apparent that you don't, which doesn't come as too much of a shock, because you aren't capable of one single abstract thought.

But because I'm feeling nice and am, again, aware of your mental incapacities, I will help you understand. A weekend warrior is a slang term for members of national guard, because they only commit to 1 weekend a month and two weeks out of the year, unless they are called to war, which my brother was. So, my point in saying what I did was to respond to Underlord's bigoted comment. That, at war time, it doesn't matter which branch of the military you're in, if you get called up, you're full-time and you're a soldier like anyone else.

You are right in that it wasn't relevant to the original topic of the thread, but it was relevant to a post in this thread. So, kindly, shut your crap trap.


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