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CattleRustler
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Posted: 3rd Sep 2005 03:34
Lol @ TheIndy.

Jimmy=Turdblossom, but we still love him.

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2005 04:44
You know what else got shafted by the united sta....

I was just informed we have a younger audience, so I shall not finish the joke.

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2005 05:54
Interesting link sent round the office. Whatever you think, it's a thought provoking read (though, the comments are mostly argumentative drivel - but some people like reading that it seems.)

http://leninology.blogspot.com/2005/09/politics-of-weather-3-shyness-of.html
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Posted: 3rd Sep 2005 06:40
Its always a good laugh when the young write a bunch of posts trying to start a flame war and ends in name calling and little fact.The WTO does not agree with Canada and neither do I.Canada is trying to shaft Americans by throwing NAFTA in our face.They talk of free trade and no tariffs while behind the scene their lumber industry is getting government subsities and logging government owned forests.This in turn makes it so no one can
compete with their prices and is NOT free trade.I think America needs to reappraise the value of NAFTA as it helps Canada
in many more ways than it does the U.S.
Someone said Blair was just a Bush lap dog? I disagree.As a world leader he must act not only for the U.K., his primary duty, but for whats best for the free world,as Bush must do.Together they are much stronger.Saddam could not be allowed to support ratical Muslims against western civilization and control over half the worlds oil supply.Many nations
have no oil.Like Japan.We dont want to fight that war AGAIN.And didnt
the English draw most of the map in the Mideast and Africa dividing the biggest tribes and putting the smallest tribes in charge? Hence all the tribal problems of today.If the U.K. sat back and did nothing their would be no U.S..And if the U.S. did nothing their would be no U.K..I say long live Blair and his silver tongue,Americans love him.If left to the rest of the world we would
all be back to fuedelism and forced to be Islamic or Communist.

As for the U.S. problems I blame the liberal media machine for its half truths and its war against American values,democrat parents and the far left professors that want to see the United States become a socialist society.Its really hurting our country and is being adressed by the voters.The majority do not want the government controlling every aspect of our lives.Clinton did nothing for 8 yrs but let it ride.And Hillary would be no better.The cash surplus came from the cut in defense spending after the collapse of the Soviet Union.Not from Clinton.Bush gave the money back to the people.And yes CattleRustler that includes the wealthy who by the way where paying 70% in taxes under Clinton.We kicked the British out for less.I believe a man deserves what he earns and the lazy dont deserve an equal cut.Bush didnt start the war on terrorism or the war with Iraq.I say long live Bush.If
you think he is dumb then you should check his education i gaurantee
it blows any one of you away.Dont confuse being a good ole boy with stupidity.
I now conclude this education session.Oh! stay in school you people need it.And just say No to drugs and No to Hillary in 2008.

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Quote: " Lol @ TheIndy.

Jimmy=Turdblossom, but we still love him.
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You know Cattle, he didn't even know the word neocon existed til you said it. If there's one reason to have the beliefs I do, it's because of people like TheIndy.

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2005 06:44
I don't know nearly enough about the intricacies of international trade to be able to pick out 'bad guy' and 'good guy' here (although it's rather odd how Canada's government is directly involved in its industries where ours isn't, but as I said, I don't know the details), but it's amusing seeing all the 12-year-olds hopping up and down with their hip 'OMG IT MUST BE BUSHZ FALT LOL' comments.

I'd be interested in reading comments by someone who actually has a clue where the balance has been struck in the past.

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2005 06:51
Quote: "OMG IT MUST BE BUSHZ FALT LOL"

OMG IT MUST BE BUSHZ FALT lol

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You mispelled LOL

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2005 06:57
It wouldn't let me do all caps...

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2005 06:58
Quote: "Its always a good laugh when the young write a bunch of posts trying to start a flame war and ends in name calling and little fact.The WTO does not agree with Canada and neither do I.Canada is trying to shaft Americans by throwing NAFTA in our face.They talk of free trade and no tariffs while behind the scene their lumber industry is getting government subsities and logging government owned forests.This in turn makes it so no one can
compete with their prices and is NOT free trade."


Oh really. That's why the WTO voted in Canada's favour on three separate occasions. Who doesn't agree with Canada? Just you.

Does nothing in your country get government subsidies? Hell--- some of the sports teams gets bailed out by the gov. here when they're on the brink of bankruptcy--- it's a government that cares. And the governments do NOT own the lumber companies here. I have a feeling that you're a little jealous of our success here

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I blame Bush because he has total control over everything that this country is involved in.

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Quote: "Well... all forms of media are anti-Bush. The number of anti-Bush channels/stations are much greater than that of pro-Bush channels/stations."


Haha. FOX News. Pure magic. You couldn't get a more twisted tv station if its set was made out of wire springs.

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2005 13:40 Edited at: 3rd Sep 2005 13:42
Quote: "Well... all forms of media are anti-Bush. The number of anti-Bush channels/stations are much greater than that of pro-Bush channels/stations."


maybe thats because theres nothing to be pro-bush about, and a lot to be anti bush about.

Quote: "No, I am not religious. But in my 18 years of existance, I rarely have ever seen an Atheist in the attack about a non-Atheist unless sparked by some other relating topic. But I have seen a non-Athiest against and Athiest ALOT of times."

in the last yr in this forum there have been 3 major [offensive] flaimbaits against religeous people started completely unprovoked by athiest members, and a few minor ones.

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Any other contries helping out the US with Hurricane Katrina?"

do you actually need help? i mean, you're the richest nation in the world, its not as if you can't help yourself, i mean you're getting more money from your own government than what the whole world gave to the east after that earthquake/tsunami last christmas. you have top notch hospitals and rescue service etc, and isn't the east coast like used to huricanes by now?

if you still need our help, then sure, i'll make a donation, but, do you really need it?
or maybe its another typical american "its happening elsewhere but we dont care, but when it happens on our soil we want the whole world to bend over" statement?

Quote: "Someone said Blair was just a Bush lap dog? I disagree.As a world leader he must act not only for the U.K., his primary duty, but for whats best for the free world,as Bush must do.Together they are much stronger.Saddam could not be allowed to support ratical Muslims against western civilization and control over half the worlds oil supply.Many nations"


so what you're syaing is we're allowed to bomb the hell out of iraq, continue giving weapons to israel while blocking any aid to palestine, illegally lock people up in guantanamo bay, but when they do so much as throw a stone back at their oppressors (cos they dont have guns/helicopters/tanks), they're the terrorists?

i love your logic, maybe you could be our next Jack Straw: "World Wide Terrorism Must Stop" ... why doesnt he stop it then? tell me that, why the feck doesnt he do what spain did after the madrid bombings?



Quote: "If left to the rest of the world we would
all be back to fuedelism and forced to be Islamic..."
man i love it when people think they know it all about my religeon. im not going into the depths, but i tell you now, YOU WOULD NOT BE FORCED TO BE ISLAMIC. i'll end the popular misconception by pointing out that the majority of the middle east (including iraq) is/was secular.

Even saudi arabia, the most islamic nation in the world (mostly because its where islam was founded) enforces islamic laws, but still doesnt force everyone there to be muslims. OUR RELIGEON IS NOT FASCIST ok?

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the English draw most of the map in the Mideast and Africa dividing the biggest tribes and putting the smallest tribes in charge? Hence all the tribal problems of today."
yes, and you're syaing its a good thing because...

Quote: "If the U.K. sat back and did nothing their would be no U.S..And if the U.S. did nothing their would be no U.K"

yup, thats why the very second we allied with the US, we lost our entire empire. good one. example: us is at war with japan, britain at war with germany, 2 completely idfferent wars. hong kong is british terroriory, we ally with the US, so then that very night japan comes and hong kong is no more. nice diplomacy there.

Quote: "Bush didnt start the war on terrorism or the war with Iraq.I say long live Bush."

yup. it was all those dam muslims fault, they did it all unprovoked, i mean suicide bombers do it so easily, they just say "im going to commit suicide" liek they're not human enough to have had their lives ruined by whatever ragime it was that didnt ruin it first.

wow, im starting to make less sense than you are!

and ps, you guys realise that some top boardroom member of fox news is a relative of george bush?

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2005 13:48
Quote: "As for the U.S. problems I blame the liberal media machine for its half truths and its war against American values,democrat parents and the far left professors that want to see the United States become a socialist society"


HAHA, you clearly have no mind of your own. You regurgitate the senseless ramblings of the Ultra-hippocrite, uber-liar Rush Limbarf. Show me this "Liberal Media Machine" as you call it. Show me where it exists aside from in Limbags's giant pumpkin head.

I wont even bother with the rest of your misinformed, ditto-head comments.

like talking to frigging walls this is.

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2005 14:25
Quote: "I blame the liberal media machine for its half truths and its war against American values,democrat parents and the far left professors that want to see the United States become a socialist society"


Out of interest, what american values is there are war against?

I decided to to read Dude, Where's my country for a bit of light entertainment. Inside Moore did rant a lot about how there's this stigma with the word 'liberal'.

I didn't really understand this, I mean there's only so much stigma that can be associated with a point of view. That sentence made me realise just how extreme some of the stigma is.

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one other thing- i dont understand this whole anti liberal thing in america. here in the UK, people are proud to be liberal, and the conservatives/labour folk envy us.

conservatives in the uk dont believe in democracy at all, they give power to the rich, and everyone bellow can kiss their anii, hence the miners strike etc.

labour are turning into communists and can\'t control the society at all (though most of our society problems today are a result of what conservatives did when they were last in power). and plus the fact that tony blair is an analhole. if he stepped aside, and let gordon brown take over, then maybe the liberals would still be a low down party. the nation was overjoyed when labour won, but 6 months on, they quickly let go of all labour values, and peoplee were already getting sick of them, but they had already become to powerful, so much power that infact 8 years later (or something like that) even though they\'ve been loosing power steadily, they\'ve still had enough left to stay in.

but even 4 yrs ago labour had some dignity, and then this war in iraq happens, etc, and now everyone\'s turning liberal. (and been proud of it even the 80 yr old folk who have voted labour all their lives except in the last election)

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2005 14:40 Edited at: 3rd Sep 2005 14:43
its like I have been saying, these labels mean nothing, it all comes down to conduct. there is nothing "conservative" about this administration. if its "fanatical,left,liberal,hippie,whiner,etc" to care about the national economy and the environment then so be it, I'm a fanatical,left,liberal,hippie,whiner.

I call it common sense and foresight.

What jimmy and his cohorts fail to see is that under a democrat the Rich get richer, and the poor get richer. Under the repubs the rich get ultra-rich and the poor get poorer.

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2005 15:28
I just want a leader who won't get us into black hole wars...

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Quote: "I call it common sense and foresight."

That\'s exactly what it is

Quote: "under a democrat the Rich get richer, and the poor get richer. Under the repubs the rich get ultra-rich and the poor get poorer"


That\'s what\'s expected, but not what will always happen. If the country is going through tough time and the econ is schit, then people are going to get poor just the same.

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Quote: " I just want a leader who won't get us into black hole wars..."


you mean black holy wars?

crusaaaaaaaaaaaaaade!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 3rd Sep 2005 23:46 Edited at: 3rd Sep 2005 23:47
Quote: "Wait, how many countries have we invaded? Two?"


er? yeah!, one that was supposedly hiding Osoma Bin Laden (although they said they where not and the entire US army couldn`t find him when they got there)

and one that was hiding huge stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction (although they said they where not along with the EU inspectors and the entire US army couldn`t find em when they got THERE)

so out of two countries you invaded, they ...

A didn`t actualy appear to have what the US claimed
B still didn`t have it when the US looked realy hard
and
C haven't stopped the possibilty of a another attack or even reduced it slightly
D actualy increased the number of fanatics in the world that want to kill large numbers of you
E done all this from the other side of a huge moat that leaves us this side of it in the poo
F continued contributing to global warming at a rate above 5x what we do in Europe
G left thousands with no water or aid after a hurricane

nice one!...0/10 for style 0/10 for wits



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A to G is 7, not 10....

but i joke i joke, i see your point

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We do have a rather large moat.

Quote: "actualy increased the number of fanatics in the world that want to kill large numbers of you"


No I think we just woke them up, not increase them. Everyone already hates us (including most of us it seems)

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I'm a Brit, currently in the US. I was amused to see a book in the bookshop called "Why the rest of the world hates America".

No, I don't have much to offer this conversation, I don't believe any of the politicians are much better than any of the others - they're probably all corrupt and tangled in years of lies and promises, deals and debts that they can probably never get out of, even if they wanted to. Many are figureheads and scapegoats, while some do the dirty work themselves.

I have greater faith in people as a whole, than in governments and politics.
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Quote: "Quote: " I just want a leader who won't get us into black hole wars..."

you mean black holy wars?

crusaaaaaaaaaaaaaade!!!!!!!! "


Haha Nice one. Reminds me of that Ann Coulter quote,

Quote: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.
Ann Coulter (on Sept 11th Bombers)"


niiiiiice

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yup, in the same sense that terrorists will crash civilian planes into civilian buildings, and put bombs on civilian busses. that's war, and this is war.

man, some people gotta stop being so hypocritical.

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Quote: "maybe thats because theres nothing to be pro-bush about, and a lot to be anti bush about."


No, there is a definite bias in the mainstream media towards the liberal left. I recall a poll among 10 or more major news networks which showed that only 8% of reporters working for them were Republican while over 80% were Democratic, although that was several years ago, not much has changed since then. CNN, NBC, CBS, and ABC are all very left-wing; it's occassionaly evident in their reporting, but their columns and commentaries make it especially obvious. Fox is obviously the other side of the spectrum, run by a corporation smart enough to realize there was a major market (like, 45% of the US) that would prefer news with a right-wing bias instead of a left-wing bias

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Coulter's a crackhead, isn't she

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Quote: "Fox is obviously the other side of the spectrum, run by a corporation smart enough to realize there was a major market (like, 45% of the US) that would prefer news with a right-wing bias instead of a left-wing bias "


It's not a simple bias, it's crazily biased!!!

To be honest I can't really tell a difference in terms of left wing / right wing bias. I only know FOX as right winged because it's ridiculously pro bush -> bush is right wing.

The statement about there's not much to be pru Bush about does have some truth I think. What is there to be pro Bush about apart from invading countries and tax cuts for rich people?

Quote: "Coulter's a crackhead, isn't she "


Yes!

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I noticed that in all generations no one is happy with the world is.

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benDstraw, not just generation, but eon/milenia/epoch/age too

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mouse you forgot to add [/sarcasm] at the end of your bit about news being "left-wing".

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Quote: "I noticed that in all generations no one is happy with the world is. "


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You all sicken me (especially the Americans bad mouthing America)

Just face it, America is and always will be the greatest country in the world.


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I do agree it does disturb me when people talk bad when about their country. They could move if they dont like it

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The only problem is ... where to go? The rest of the world is almost just as screwed up and it costs too much to move, just to be a little less screwed up.

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Quote: "Just face it, America is and always will be the greatest country in the world."


In history, every #1 world power goes into decline. Think Britain, Rome... It will be no different with the U.S.

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Quote: "it does disturb me when people talk bad when about their country. They could move if they dont like it "



I just feel sorry for those Americans who DID move to Afghanistan or Iraq and joined the armed forces there only to be invaded by the USA and then taken back to America (well...Guatamalo(sp?) bay...but you get the idea)

talking bad about your own country or even mine is just fine by me, thats called free speech, when a Government is starting to do something you don`t like then you chew em out about it, just like the American people did over Vietnam, a senseless war..stopped by public protest, the trouble with trying to make a fair assesment from inside your own country is that even the most rabid newscasters tend to be biased towards the country they publish in, they wouldn`t sell many copys if they didn`t reflect a big chunk of public opinion and that opinion is already formed before they publish a single page on the subject, so everything you can learn on the subject is pre-twisted, now we have the net you can get the other guys bias direct and work out a middle ground thats nearer to the truth than anything you read in the papers or see on tv.





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Quote: "Just face it, America is and always will be the greatest country in the world."


its for that kind of arrogance that we hate you.

Quote: " I do agree it does disturb me when people talk bad when about their country. They could move if they dont like it "


good plan. im emmigrating to biarritz the very second i leave school

Quote: "The only problem is ... where to go? The rest of the world is almost just as screwed up and it costs too much to move, just to be a little less screwed up."

you clearly havent seen the rest of the world. wouldnt surpirse me if you didnt even own a passport.

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In history, every #1 world power goes into decline. Think Britain, Rome... It will be no different with the U.S."

just as i've always said. the greater the empire the greater the fall. an example you said was rome, and dam right. rome spent a few centuries building up to becoem something great, then in came s corrupt leader everyone got sick of and then Rome suddenly fell in literally a weekend.
its happened all over the world, the british empire, all gone during the space of a couple of years, china... i dunno what happened, but it's only just recovering now a few centuries later.
and it is true that the size the empire gets to is proportional to how hard the fall is. look at japan, in world war 1, its empire never got passed hong kong, so when it collapsed, it hadnt lost anything and recovered easily. germany had a harder fall, but was still relatively soft since it had only spent a few years and didnt take much either.

imagine an empire to be an ascending lift. the cable never gets weaker, but the lift gets heavier as it stops at every floor to pick up some more people, but never letting any go.

Quote: "I just feel sorry for those Americans who DID move to Afghanistan or Iraq and joined the armed forces there only to be invaded by the USA and then taken back to America (well...Guatamalo(sp?) bay...but you get the idea)"

so you only feel sorry for the americans in guantanamo bay. not the afghans, pakistanis or even british?

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dont misinterpret slams of the goverment as not loving America, its just that, a slam of the government, not the country. the love I have for my country is what makes me critical of the people in charge, when I see them blatantly screwing it up. And just for the record, I'd be just as critical, if not moreso, if there was a democrat in charge. Ineptitude knows no party affiliation.

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Posted: 5th Sep 2005 14:24
Quote: "so you only feel sorry for the americans in guantanamo bay. not the afghans, pakistanis or even british"


hmm!!! that was jokey sarcasm, hence the smiley, which I only added for the benefit of pedantic bores anyway , just to explain something that should be painfully obvious to a retarded fish, it was suggested that Americans that didn`t like the US moved out, I pointed out that those Americans that obviously didn`t like the US and had moved out where promptly brought back by the US army, its called humour, it distinguishes those with wit from those without <<<that was sarcasm again



the average IQ is 100...but the people that took the test where trying to look smart. most people don`t go over 50.
Area 51?, I`m more intrested in what they have in areas 1 to 50
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Posted: 5th Sep 2005 14:46
I hate that 'Well if you don't like it...' saying, surely the saying should be 'Well if I don't like it the how come I still have to pay for it, how come I can't send it back and get the other one instead, how come we're entitled to no guarantee, or waranty, or refund, how come I have more rights when buying bubblegum than voting?...'

Imagine if everyone did do that though, if the only people who stuck around were the ones who were happy with the way things are - nothing would ever change, nothing would ever improve. In Blighty we don't really talk about politics, we complain about it - this is not because we like to complain more than most nations, it's just that often major changes are just a matter of complaining to the right people .


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Quote: "hmm!!! that was jokey sarcasm"


ah yes, i forgot you americans rely on sarcsam (what we in britain call "the lowest form of wit") for humour, sorry to have sounded dumber than a retarded fish.

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Posted: 5th Sep 2005 17:20 Edited at: 5th Sep 2005 17:21
I got what you mean Van B, Sometimes its hard to tell if they're not happy with things or hate their country. If your not happy with things, fine, vote complain and try to make difference, If you hate the country then you shouldnt be here. Are you seeing what im saying.

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i hate the country. hence im leaving. end of story.

but first of all i got my education to finish >.<

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Posted: 5th Sep 2005 23:04
Quote: "imagine an empire to be an ascending lift. the cable never gets weaker, but the lift gets heavier as it stops at every floor to pick up some more people, but never letting any go."


Good analogy

I guess this softwood issue and any other political issue further reinstates the importance of voting. A few weeks ago I was in a coffee shop debating with a fellow about our federal government, and he was trashing them up down left right and centre. I felt like punching him in the face when he told me he didn't even vote at the last federal election.

Point in case: If you don't vote, don't bitch. Simple as that. An exception would be if you're too young to vote, of course

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Posted: 5th Sep 2005 23:13 Edited at: 5th Sep 2005 23:14
Quote: "its for that kind of arrogance that we hate you."


You gotta admit though... some of that arrogance is justified.

Americans practically invented the whole computer industry. The Internet you're looking at right now is an American Invention. This page is coming to you from America. The car, the phone, the lightbulb, the traffic light, the band-aid, the artifical heart... the inventions that Americans have made that billions of non-Americans use every day are too numerous to type here.

I am a proud American... and proud that the whole world has benefited from our citizens inventions. If non-Americans hate us for bringing innovation to the world then so be it... they can turn off their computer, throw away their car keys, and never turn on the lights in their house ever again.
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Posted: 5th Sep 2005 23:21
That being true. And Im not going to bag on that statement but just add some food for thought. The British started the industrial revolution. Im not British Im American and Im proud of our accoplishments but Im sure British could bring up the same point.

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