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Jeku
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Posted: 16th Sep 2005 22:35
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Quote: " What makes it awful? You played it?"


Nope. But just look at the pictures and go with your first gut reaction. Reminds me of those old 70s and early 80s machines where everyone in the family is gathered around the tv with huge smiles on their faces weilding unholy and useless contraptions in their hands.

I hope I'm proven wrong, but this controller will kill the machine. Hell, Virtua Boy was a cool idea! Too bad it died a fiery death soon after release because it was too different.

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Posted: 16th Sep 2005 22:43
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Just taking it as the tv remote style thing makes it look bad. Although with the analogue stick in your left hand it suddenly makes sense imo. You can still move with the analogue stick, but point the gun and fire using the right.

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Posted: 16th Sep 2005 22:51
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Quote: "This is awful, just awful. No sense buying a Revolution now. The only saving grace is that you can tilt the controller 90 degrees and use it like a retro NES controller.
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Amen.

This is just...

Jesus Christ.

WHY must Nintendo always take it to themselves to be innovative? LET US PLAY VIDEO GAMES THE WAY WE BEEN PLAYING THEM FOR DECADES. There is zero reason to change this simply for the sake of change. None. Neda.

This is just...blah. I've lost all faith in Nintendo. Cartriges for the N64, small obselete discs for the cube, 2 bloody screens for the DC, and now...a f*cking remote control for a controller. We are going to be holding these things for several hours at a time. What is this??? Who's idea of a joke is this anyway?


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Umm the virtua boy was a GREAT idea - until they made the screen only be able to display red! D'oh! How amazingly realistic can graphics be if they're made with only one colour lol I never understood their decision on that at the time... The technology just wasn't good enough to get in an affordable price range I guess...

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Posted: 16th Sep 2005 22:53 Edited at: 16th Sep 2005 22:56
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Quote: "And besides, I'm 6'3", and I have freiken huge hands... "

And i'm 6'6" and i have the biggest hands of anyone i know, seriously, in 9th grade, we went to the zoo and they had a thing that you can compare the size of your hand to a gorilla, yeah, i was the closest by a long shot.
my hands are HUGE, and i tend to like my little GC controllers, I actually kinda like the MICRO GC controllers MORE than i do the standard, but again, i love my HUGE mouse, i got the biggest one i could find! because i cant stand little mice.

Quote: " "The only saving grace is that you can tilt the controller 90 degrees and use it like a retro NES controller."
I'm hoping you can do that - that'd be cool "

You can, according to 1up.com or whatever it's called, and they've used it.

Quote: "@joel thanks for that close up picture..."

you know, people dont make sense to me... WE WANT SOMETHING NEW, SOMETHING INNOVATIVE! wah wah wah.
something new and innovative comes out, "WTF is that? who wants something out of the ordinary? no one asked for something GAY! wtf wtf wtf wtf wtf, when we say innovative we dont mean NEW and DIFFERENT, we mean innovative as in, not new, same old, just a different size and color...now THAT's innovative!"
seriously, that's what you guys are saying, you are all morons, stop asking for innovative if you really dont want it... you cant just sit there and say something sucks because it doesnt LOOK good or comfortable...
have you guys see those mini moter cycles, that are like, 1foot off the ground? and they look like you would have to be a baby to ride? yeah, those are SO surprizingly comfortable.

You seriously cant judge something by what it LOOKS like...wait until you TRY it.

according to the article at 1up.com, the motion sensing is really good and accurate..

you have to think about the possiblities of the games we're going to get from this sort of thing.

and the two little buttons at the bottom are for NES game play.

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Quote: "WHY must Nintendo always take it to themselves to be innovative?"

because that's what you retards ASKED for.
"we dont want the bells and whistles, but the GC sucks becuase it cant handle graphics"
same story, same fight, no one can win...

Nintendo kicks BUTT


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Posted: 16th Sep 2005 22:55
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Must be permanently April Fool's Day in Japan...

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Posted: 16th Sep 2005 23:01 Edited at: 16th Sep 2005 23:03
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Quote: "because that's what you retards ASKED for.
"we dont want the bells and whistles, but the GC sucks becuase it cant handle graphics"
same story, same fight, no one can win...

Nintendo kicks BUTT"


That is just the most retarded thing on this thread. We did NOT ask for bizzare new hardware. We did NOT ask for new "innovative" ways to play our game, whether it's several screens on our portable, or a game controller that attaches to your buttock. We asked for new original gameplay, improved A.I, higher end graphics. We asked for better games.

And before you mark me as a public media enemey, I was one of those rare people that couldn't get enough of the Wind Waker graphical style. For that, I truly did salute Nintendo for trying something new.


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Posted: 16th Sep 2005 23:13
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I've just realised something. ITS A LIGHTSABRE!

Can you imagine the fun you'd have in a star wars game?

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Posted: 16th Sep 2005 23:17
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Quote: "You seriously cant judge something by what it LOOKS like...wait until you TRY it."


I have tried it, it's called a flippin' remote control! I have 3 of them in my living room!

For an exercise, imagine playing a next-game GAME using only your DVD remote's up/down/left/right and Enter buttons. Wow! So fun! *cries*

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Posted: 16th Sep 2005 23:23
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Quote: "I have 3 of them in my living room!"

thats it? i have 6 and then bought me one of those fancy lcd remotes....ahhh....

I do like the DS for its touch screen, if the psp had a touch screen, i would buy it in an intance. But omg, this gay remote? did they not expect the responses we are hearing? Why do you always have to shoot urslef in the fr***in foot nintendo, you used to be the standard of gaming........

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Posted: 16th Sep 2005 23:24
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Quote: "[edit] Oooh could you plug in the NES Robot?! Thats was sooo kewl (well, I know it was actually rubbish but it was a great idea, and looked like a cool Johnny 5 clone!)"


haha... forget that I want the power glove >_<

Quote: "I have tried it, it's called a flippin' remote control! I have 3 of them in my living room!"


Your remote controls have 3D Motion Sensor Movement Tracking and a Screen Pointer Tracking System? Cause mine don't... although that would be awesome for turning it up or skipping things.

Man, can you imagine being able to add 'gestures' to your TV viewing?! Damn that'd be sweet.

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Posted: 16th Sep 2005 23:25
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tho who knows, maybe it will be the bes thing we have ever played...........ba hah hah!!!!!

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lol @ Raven - yup. Or use your remote to slap people on Springer Or stroke Tiffani on Fastlane The power glove was awesome

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This is going to happen to anybody that uses that controller:

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right........

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Grog, theres a thread to post pictures of yourself in, don't do it here.

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Posted: 16th Sep 2005 23:43 Edited at: 16th Sep 2005 23:44
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TDP is confused, because that's what HE looks like and he's never used the controller before.

Thanks Ben... thanks A LOT.


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heh.. not sure your other half would approve of you using the TV if you could do that

you know what I find funny, is if this controller looked like the GameCube one; we'ed still have people sitting here bitching nothing ever changes. kinda silly.

as I said above, personally think it's a step forward for game interaction. while everyone here sits here bitching about the Nintendo DS and this new Control system... the people Nintendo are trying to appeal to; ironically won't care.

Sony grabbed the crown from Nintendo back in 2000 simply for the fact they got a new wave of gamers interested. They're still trying to appeal to thier nitché market and selling themselves as a brand rather than as something worthwhile owning.

Nintendo have tested the water with the DS... and well market sales don't lie. While you might think it's silly, not everyone will.
If your happy with Microsoft and Sony, fair enough. No real loss to Nintendo.

After all most people bitched about Nintendo aiming too closely to kids with the GC. Market-wise it's solds as much hardware as Microsoft, and software wise it's somewhere in the middle of Sony and Microsoft. While the decline from thier previous systems is a bit of a bust, on the whole they're seeing that this new technology and innovations are actually showing REAL results.

So.. you might not like the touch screen with Nintendogs or Kirby Touch. Yet the funny thing is the sales from those two games have not died in the same way other titles have. They're not a passing popularity. You see the exact same with Pokémon, although now people are getting bored of it; finally. Yet we're what.. 7-8years on now? That is one hell of a run.

Anything anyone can do to break the cycle of forcing developers to constantly compete on what is graphically possible because just about every other area hits the wall very quickly .. sorry but no matter how it appears on the outside I think it's genius. They deserve to see this do well.

The I-Pod to me, looks like a remote control. Especially the Shuffle and Nano. They're extremely popular with the public.

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Posted: 16th Sep 2005 23:53
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Quote: "I have tried it, it's called a flippin' remote control! I have 3 of them in my living room!"


Nah it's different. The emphasis is on the motion sensors, not the D pad. There's a good hands on account at the web site Joel talked about.

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Posted: 16th Sep 2005 23:55 Edited at: 16th Sep 2005 23:58
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Quote: "If your happy with Microsoft and Sony, fair enough. No real loss to Nintendo.
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Thats stupid.

No loss to Nintendo? YES! Look at what happened to sega with the Saturn , then the Dreamcast...

I think Nintendo are on the slippery slope to die'ing, And I HAVE a gamecube, and I think Nintendo deserve to stay in the console market.

But people just dont like Innovation, They bitch and moan about not having any of it, then when it happens they bitch... Nintendo cant win!

This new controller actually IS kind of stupid. Im sure the Japanese will love it though (What strange things DONT they like?)

Lol...


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Quote: "TDP is confused, because that's what HE looks like and he's never used the controller before."

Damit, how did you know?!?!?!?!? Doesnt matter tho, with that huge arm, i could still take u(ooooooh, dis)

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Quote: "No loss to Nintendo? YES! Look at what happened to sega with the Saturn , then the Dreamcast..."


Sega are a very different company. Sorry but they are... you can't compared Sega and Nintendo in terms of who knows what they're doing marketing wise.

Everyone said 12months ago the Nintendo DS was a mistake.
Today it is not only the best selling handheld console by over 3x but it's actually selling more units weekly than the Sony have with the Playstation 2.

The reason is simply because more people WANT to game using it. Again given everyone claims Nintendo were out for the count with the GameCube; the fact that they've been able to break even with worldwide sales with the X-Box... despite what people believe.

Seriously Nitendo know what they're doing. They haven't lasted over 20years and fought off over 10 seperate rivals just to give in to the two new guys now.

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Quote: "Your remote controls have 3D Motion Sensor Movement Tracking and a Screen Pointer Tracking System?"


No, but my NES lightgun has it--- and it came out in 1985.

And you're wrong about the bitching and moaning. If Nintendo kept their mouth shut and didn't tell the public they had a groundbreaking controller design, then nobody would bat an eye if they created just another run-of-the-mill controller that looks cookie-cutter. Why didn't they just add the motion sensor to the regular controller? What is the freaking point of a remote control? Seriously.

And Ipods do NOT look like remote controls. I swear you just pull out random things and combine them to base your arguments from.

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wow, i havent met more than 5 ppl that have a DS or PSP, but i still wish the psp had a touch screen......

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Hahahahaha

I finally watched the 47 min video. It was cool to see the creator of Mario still in the company. If it was EA he would of been fired a year after they decided to make Mario their main character.

I'm actually a little more convinced that it's not a super horrible idea. Bringing in people that would normally run away in fear from a standard controller is a great idea to boost sales. I certainly won't use it because i'm going to get a PS3... but I appreciate all of Nintendos contributions to the video game industry. Console games were practically dead when Nintendos started to sell globally. They brought life back to the industry... and for that we should all be greatful.
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Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but you can turn the controller side-on, at which point it becomes a Nintendo NES-style pad.

I don't know for certain whether or not the controller will work, but there are a couple of points in Nintendo's favour:

- They have an extremely good track record as far as controllers are concerned. Nintendo were the first to utilise several now-standard features, including the D-Pad, the analog stick and rumble. For my hands, the GameCube controller is almost perfect from an ergonomic perspective.

- The press reports of the hands-on demos have been positive, particularly with respect to the Metroid Prime demo, which is the most mainstream usage.

The biggest risk is multi-platform titles, which will probably be designed around the XBOX 360 / PS 3 controllers, and these may not port well to the Revolution's controller. The Nintendo DS has already illustrated some of these problems, where analog-stick games have been ported to use the touch scree, not always successfully. As I understand it, the Revolution also has GameCube controller ports, which might be a way round the problem.


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yes, and halo 2, hot coffee, and numerous other titles killed it.


Who knows, maybe the remote will feel, "comforatble" in your hand like a............

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Whatever, either if it'll be a total failure or not, they make the try to change or give new ways of doing things. If it where for those who keep saying it's sh*t and prefer the old fashion way, then we'd still be stuck in medieval ages. People and Companies that made improvements and all, where always been the laugh of most, still, later on, everybody said how well they did, and how creative they where. So, whether most of us like it or not, unless you've tried it, your words have no fundament, as ours saying it is great(or whatever).
I'll just add something. When Zelda: Ocarina of Time came out, a friend of mine stated that it was lame and all, and that ps was all the range. Well, thing is, i "forced" him to play it, and he ended up liking it a bit, and actually said that it was not what he said before. He still thinks ps is better, but from time to time he plays Zelda, and others at my house.
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its jutst unusual for a big company to do something so obviously......gay/japanesse

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Quote: "And Ipods do NOT look like remote controls. I swear you just pull out random things and combine them to base your arguments from."


http://images.apple.com/ipodshuffle/gallery/images/angledfront20050111.jpg

Oh... having a second look maybe your right, the i-pod looks more like a cup of coffee. However did I miss that!



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Ah the dreaded ipod shuffle. For losers! lol jk.

I guess it is like a remote. For ease of use. It has all the buttons of a standard mp3 player all nice and cozy together. Can you say the same for the revolution's controller?
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in all fairness raven that's a ipod shuffle...

ipod minis and normal ipods look a little bit less like remotes with their screens...

not that that changes how awesome the nintendo revolution controller is

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Quote: "in all fairness raven that's a ipod shuffle... "


it's still an i-pod.
the i-pod nano and mini still look like remote controls though.. ya know what's funny to me is actually my TV remote looks less of a remote control than the damn i-pods

that said it is one hell of a damn comfy remote

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Quote: "Alright... what about a sword-based RPG?
So, you use the sensors to detect where you're swinging the sword. But, you still need to tell it when to swing the sword. So, again, you've only accounted for the d-pad..."

Whatcha talkin about? You wouldn't need to press a button to attack, you swing and the sword starts moving and when it hits something it hits something. You would manually do different attacks like blocking and low sweeps and such.

Here is what I think best shows off the sword-ish functionality:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v507/mousedown/revo.swf

I'm around your height Jess, so I have no doubt they'll be made for small Japanese hands. I guess we'll have to hope that some third party comes out with a big-handed people version.


I would really like to play shooters and such with that though. They also keep talking about independent developers being able to take advantage of it, but they need to start listing prices.


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but, that means if you even slightly move your 'controller', the sword starts moving... 'tis a bit of a shame if you're talking to an NPC and you accidentally stab him 'cos you needed readjust your hand from your thumb cramping up, isn't it?

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Ok, here's my take on it - and I've already had flaming arguements over email at the office today about it. And I work at a games company.

Firstly - for those scared or disgusted by the new control system - you can plug it in to a 'standard shape' shell and use it like a 'normal' control pad - this will be of most use when playing multiplatform conversions. So yes - EA will still be able to crank out 15 different SKUs of the same game and not have to worry about changing the control system.

Secondly - you can plug in your old controllers. So there - you don't even have to risk dealing with the new and interesting stuff. Your comfort blanket is still available.

Thirdly - I've read an insiders account of what it's like to play a game with the new controller. He played Metroid Prime with it - they mapped all the controls on to the new controller (with analogue stick attached). He is a 'hardcore' gamer - the kind who plays Battlefield for 5 hours at a time. The sort who believes that mouse and keyboard are the ONLY way to go with FPSs. He said there is nothing like it out there - it's the most responsive, instantaneous control system he'd ever encountered, far surpassing mouse and keyboard for sheer speed. If he had the choice, he'd use the Revolution controller for FPSs forever.

Fourth - it requires very little effort to use. Contrary to the video, you don't need large movements at all, and the controller is surprisingly light. There will be no massive arm muscles required.

And finally - (and this is the important one) - our secretary, a non-gamer, was included in all the mails. She saw the controller and says she 'gets it'. A non-gamer, 'gets' the control system. She's not scared by it, intimidated by it, worried she won't know how to use it etc. That, is a massive step forwards in including more people in the gaming pastime.

If people here, people who generally want to make games, can't come up with cool ideas to use this new technology, then I'm kind of dissapointed. Why, it's golfing games where your swing actually counts, it's that bit in Minority Report where he's arranging things on screen, it's the new way to play puzzle games, it's a gesture based magic system, it's a better, faster, more instinctive way to play survival horror with a torch, it's a million more things and everything we're already accustomed to.

Thankyou Nintendo - I was uninspired by your console talk so far, but now it's a must buy.
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Quote: "Secondly - you can plug in your old controllers."


I hope (for Nintendo's sake) that they include a Cube-ish controller in the package, or that 'shell' you mentioned in addition to the new one.

If they do, I'm definitely getting a Revolution, as it means that I'll have another range of games I'll be able to play in addition to the ones on my PC.

Nintendo's (recent) consoles seem to be cheaper than the competitors, too; As a student, this'll be a considerable factor in my choice

I can't wait to be able to play deathmatches on my Revolution against other people across teh intarweb with the motion-remote...

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I love all the wifi stuff - beause we have a wireless router in our house just putting the console inside our home will connect it to the interweb!

@Tinkergirl - I read andd article about the Metroid Prime game too. I just can't wait for it to be in use with an FPS game, so amazing.

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Quote: "but, that means if you even slightly move your 'controller', the sword starts moving... 'tis a bit of a shame if you're talking to an NPC and you accidentally stab him 'cos you needed readjust your hand from your thumb cramping up, isn't it?"


A well designed game would probably require you to hold a button to be able to slash .

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Quote: "A well designed game would probably require you to hold a button to be able to slash"

But that´s what he´s saying. There is no button. There should be a button next to the A button to take care of such a task.

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Ummm.. there is a B button on the other side you know. But seriously, where have the rest of the buttons gone?

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Quote: "no harder than the black and white buttons on the original XBox controller."

they were so easy to press, much nice than the controllerS....how small are your hands?! mine are pretty small and i still prefer the big controller....pah you all prolly just crap gamers -_-

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Here's hoping the system ships with the regular controller shell.

I still am shocked, but I am awed at the possibilities. That port at the bottom could be used for so many things. It is a step closer to real virtual reality. Because it recognises 3D space, so much is available to the player. Imagine using the controller as a hand and using it to shake off zombies (let's hope they consider RE5 for it!). Or (let's hope not) using it in Harry Potter to make magic spells (don't get me worng, I hate HP)? The system has great potential, but if it is not par in the graphics department, it could blow the whole thing up in Shigeru Miyamoto's face.


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Quote: " its jutst unusual for a big company to do something so obviously......gay/japanesse"

You do realize that Nintendo is a Japanese company? And what is homosexual about a TV remote? It's probably the most masculine thing around. You sit on your ass and use your TV remote to flip through football channels.

It's really not unusual for Nintendo to do weird stuff. Read up on their history.


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Quote: "what is homosexual about a TV remote?"
nothing, but what is homesexual about a TV remote-esque game controller that come in a variety of different flavors? hmmm,,,,,,,
Quote: "It's really not unusual for Nintendo to do weird stuff"
i know, i bet in japan, they think of microsoft the same way, lol. But yeah, in america, why does nintendo have to constantly shoot themselves in their foot?

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Quote: "nothing, but what is homesexual about a TV remote-esque game controller that come in a variety of different flavors? hmmm,,,,,,,"


Quote: "i know, i bet in japan, they think of microsoft the same way, lol. But yeah, in america, why does nintendo have to constantly shoot themselves in their foot?"


I don't think the controller is shooting themselves in the foot, nor do I think it's gay

You can slot the thing into a normal style controller anyway, so what's the problem? You've got all bases covered.

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Nothing....nope I called myself a gay guy just to check...apparently our team of experts have decided you almost definitely suffer from some mental deficiency and we should probably have provided information on this controller in the form of a little puppet show with bright colours and happy smiles.

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i seriously do, a simple form of Dissociative Identity Disorder, which is just another name for Multiple Personality Disorder.

Quote: "You can slot the thing into a normal style controller anyway, so what's the problem? You've got all bases covered."
i missed that, i just skipped back to the end of this thread and missed the updates.

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Do you guys have to constantly be morons?

Just because it looks like a TV remote, you automatically think its going to suck? What the hell is wrong with you?

I think its incredibly innovative, especially since it tracks your movement and rotation. And if you dont like that, you can use the analog stick. And if you dont like that, you can use:



Oy, you guys really dont like progress!

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