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dark coder
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Quote: "and as far as insults go, you might wanna scroll up again to see who is the one handing out the insults... you're gonna learn that if you behave like a civil mannered person, you'll get the same from me...
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im not sure what in your books qualifys as a civil mannered person but it seems you can stop calling us kid, so what if your older, would it be civil mannered if we started calling you old man?

and you keep telling us to shut up even though your totally wrong, and then again telling us to play with ourselves, so perhaps its you who should look at your own civil tounge and realise its non existant.


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Red Ocktober
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hahaha... i'm just teasin him 'fish...

if i leave out the sync command from the loop, and just put one sync rate set 300 statement at the top, my code runs as fast as his lunacy...

he is trapped in his own world of disbelief... no matter what i say, he'll never understand...

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he did say just change the 1 to 0, not change his code fundamentally -_-

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 02:15 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 02:20
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'fish... noone is changing his code fundamentally... whether i change the one to a zero, or just comment out the sync conditional, it's still the same code...

Quote: "you can stop calling us kid"

oh oh... i'm in trouble now... the rest of the hardy boy crowd has arrived...

number one - noone called you anything... you weren't posting above, so where do you get off with this us crap...

number two - read above, and understand, if you are capable of doing that, and you'll see when the uncivil posts started, and with whom...

number three - take out all your sync foolishness, and at the top of your code put sync rate 300 or 400... 500, 600 if you like...

you'll see that the app runs just as fast as if i put in the sync commands within the loop... the cube rotates just as fast...

you are incapable of understanding... you are missing the point...

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 02:18
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but thats not what his code was meant for, maybe you should scroll up and run his code, voila your wrong, once youve discovered this then im sure you will find another way to edit it to make your futile arguement sound correct...


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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 02:21 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 02:29
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ok, einstein... then maybe you can explain to me what his code is meant for...

because all i can see is a simple main loop, and someone forcing a sync where it is not needed...

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it's an OS !

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and then he said change the 1 to a 0 and recompile when you do that, voila you find the fps goes up but the screen refreashing is about once per second, so that means you do need sync else your game will be unplayable. dont believe me? run his code in dbc yourself remove the 'un needed' sync and see how awsome? it is..


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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 02:29 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 02:34
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LOL @ 'fish...

@ dark coder... nonsense... it goes faster because his code is foolishly built to go slow without the sync command executing...

put a sync rate 600 (above the main loop) in there then play around with the one and the zero... you'll see that his code runs slower with the sync...

here... in case you're too lazt to type


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Guys, it doesn't matter, hes just winding you up. He realised he was wrong ages ago.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 02:43 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 02:47
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hahahahaha... aaaaaahhh, you're pathetic Benji... classic case of denial...
Quote: "Guys, it doesn't matter, hes just winding you up"

what guys... you're the only one around here that appears to be wound up... me... personally, i think it's funny... 'fish is also joking around about it...

and dark coder, well, he's just confused... still running the code probably... haven't heard from him in the last few minutes...

that lil bit of code i put up for you should show you how right i am, and how mistaken you are...

run it... if you dare

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no i was looking around the forum to topics that may be of some help to people, rather than spend hours listening to your pathetic attempts to wind us up, perhaps you should realise that sync is required and shut up.

and have you really got nothing better to do than make petty arguments every day? maybe you should make a game? you seem to be *cough* know it all already so why dont you put it into practice? id love to see some fps/rpg whatever without the use of sync well assuming it isnt going to be a text adventure..


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hahahahahaaaaaaa... oh boy... if you weren't so stubborn, you'd see that i'm trying to help you... but hey, go on believing what you want... it's a free forum...

Quote: "you seem to be *cough* know it all already so why dont you put it into practice? id love to see some fps/rpg whatever without the use of sync "


ok... wait a second...


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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 03:15 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 03:19
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@ Benjamin, Red Ocktobor, and dark coder:

I can't believe you guys. You're denouncing yourselves in this forum. The smartest of your three should prove so by stopping your posting here. Seriously, can't you just agree? I'm surprised the MODs havn't banned you yet. Don't you think it's rude to ruin someones thread, made to ask a question? If you want to flame, do it in MSN Mesenger, but leave this forum alone.

That's right, I'm pointing at you.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 03:30 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 04:19
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ya know... all i can hear around here is ban... ban... ban... that seems to be one of your favorite words around here...

@ uncle sam...
noone is flaming anyone, not yet anyways... and if you feel the thread is objectionable, then by all means feel free to ignore it and move on to another thread...

it would appear that some of these younger people think that their lewd and off color way of talking is acceptable... so in a way, i have to agree with you... but it is a forum... and there are gonna be disagreements... but no one has not yet crossed over the bounds set forth in the etiquette guidance so far in this thread... so your call for the banning people is a bit premature, and your pointed pointing of your finger at someone is just as childish as what's gone on above...


@ dark coder
Quote: "Quote: "you seem to be *cough* know it all already so why dont you put it into practice? id love to see some fps/rpg whatever without the use of sync "

ok... wait a second... "


http://home.att.net/~subbase2/DBProSub.wmv

ok... there ya go... a lil preview of what i'm workin on

and some more info...

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=65020&b=1

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=65558&b=1

i've still got a loooong ways to go, but i think that this shows that i know just a lil bit about what i'm babbling about...

the scene is made from the OO framework, and i haven't had to sync once inside of the game loop... not yet anyways... and it runs smooth as silk (the lil stuttering you may see in the movie is the result of fraps, so don't even bring it up as some last gasp for your arguement)...


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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 09:50
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@Red October: are you still rambling on about your misuse of sync?, I have an idea, learn to program and then come back when you know what you are talking about, that way we don`t have to waste time arguing with you and you get to acomplish something in life rather than annoy other people with your misleading posts, that way we all win




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all i see is the dbp shader example with a sub model moving.

and as weve been saying for the past 24hrs in a dbc game you need to use sync otherwise you get an incredibly pants gameplay experience, yet obviously when you read over the dbc part your mind interpreted it as dbp, same for the board name maybe?

if thats totally not the case and you infact ran his code perhaps you didnt do everything he said? to make it easy for you ive stripped his bits out and it is now your amazing no sync needed version


if thats what you call smooth gameplay then


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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 12:22 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 12:37
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DBC!!!!!!

Your own code proves that you are wrong.

You forgot the 'if syncon=1 then sync on' command above the main loop, but your code proves my point.

With 'syncon' set to 0, it is slow and the text (FPS count) is flickery. With 'syncon' set to 1 (plus the above line you forgot), it is smooth.

Run it in DBC. Do you need me to compile some EXEs for you, or are you capable of getting the trial...

@Uncle Sam: Sorry dude, but he's wrong, and I want to prove it. I can't believe that he goes around saying this stuff when talking about languages he hasn't even used... If you can stop it here & now, people will probably end up benefiting in the end... Well, that's my opinion.

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Quote: "are you still rambling on about your misuse of sync?, "
no... you're the one who is still rambling on... i haven't said anything else on the subject...

Quote: "Uncle Sam: Sorry dude, but he's wrong, and I want to prove it. I can't believe that he goes around saying this stuff when talking about languages he hasn't even used... "
my license for Dark Basic was purchased on November 3rd, 2001... and i was around when the old forum was up... again, you don't know what you are talking about...

Quote: "all i see is the dbp shader example with a sub model moving."
naturally, that's all you see... you can't see the object oriented framework behind it, and you can't see that there are no sync commands in the main loop of the code...
just like you can't see the air that you breathe and that keeps you alive... you are foolish enough to believe that it doesn't exist...

there's no hope for you... so, i'm gonna leave you and dark noncoder to play with yourselves again... this is getting past ridiculous, and i really don't want any of your ignorance to rub off on me by accident.

and more importantly, i don't want the forum to have to suffer through you any more of your childish foolishness...


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Your own code proves that you are wrong.

You forgot the 'if syncon=1 then sync on' command above the main loop, but your code proves my point.
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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 14:19 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 14:44
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Quote: "You forgot the 'if syncon=1 then sync on' command above the main loop,"

look at the code snippet again dear boy... this time read it s l o w l y... it's in the middle of the main loop...

Quote: "

if upkey() then move object 1, 1
if leftkey() then yrotate object 1, wrapvalue(object angle y(1)-1)
if rightkey() then yrotate object 1, wrapvalue(object angle y(1)+1)
if syncon then sync

text 40,40, str$(screen fps())
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if syncon IS in the main loop... it doesn't have to say if syncon=1... if syncon is effectively the same as if syncon=1...

try toggling the value of syncon at the middle of the code above the main loop and you'll see this...

again you show your lack of coding skillz...
as well as you lack of comprehension...

Quote: "@ blanky... too late, you had your chance... go try to convince someone else that you know what you are doin..."

Quote: "you're the one who is still rambling on... "



pwnded...


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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 15:57 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 16:03
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`sync on
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That's what I was talking about. That ought to be 'if syncon=1 then sync on', above the main loop.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 16:12 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 16:26
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that's not what Benjamin had in his code... now you're really fishing...

look above at Benji's code... no, that's ok, i'll look for you...

Quote: "sync rate 60
syncon = 0

make object cube 1, 10
autocam off
position camera 0, 0, -10

do
if upkey() then move object 1, 1
if leftkey() then yrotate object 1, wrapvalue(object angle y(1)-1)
if rightkey() then yrotate object 1, wrapvalue(object angle y(1)+1)
if syncon then sync
loop
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ya see, he clearly had it inside the main loop...

give it up... would ya... this is really getting ridiculous...

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Yeah, Benjamin was wrong, and I must've fixed his example on-the-fly in the DBC editor when I tested it >.<
In fact, I did. The EXEs I posted had a fixed version.

oh yeah, and I was talking about *your* code..

Actually, forget it. I've said what I've needed to say. I've said it several times. Peace man, I'm outta here. I'm going to try and post a playable demo of my FPS in the WIP board soon, check it out if you want to.

It'll contain sync , but it's also in DBPro , so oh well.

Bye, and good luck with any projects you work on, all of ye. 'Twas stupid of me to get distracted mid-way through project cleanup... >.<

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 16:27 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 16:34
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Quote: "oh yeah, and I was talking about *your* code.."

lets look at my code...
Quote: "
do
` move camera
if keystate(17)=1 then move camera 1.5
if keystate(31)=1 then move camera -1.5
yrotate camera wrapvalue(camera angle y()+mousemovex())
xrotate camera wrapvalue(camera angle x()+mousemovey())

if upkey() then move object 1, 1
if leftkey() then yrotate object 1, wrapvalue(object angle y(1)-1)
if rightkey() then yrotate object 1, wrapvalue(object angle y(1)+1)
if syncon then sync




text 40,40, str$(screen fps())
loop"

same thing as Benji's... it's in the main loop...

i guess you must've missed it... just like you missed it in Benji's code... that's ok... i understand

Quote: "Bye, and good luck with any projects you work on"


thank you...

and good luck to you too.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 18:10 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 18:11
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Why can't this be a sensible debate rather than the childish argument you are making it Red Ocktober?

I will continue this debate until either you understand or you prove me wrong. You don't have to continue if you don't want to.

I didn't realise I made that mistake in my last piece of code, so heres some more code, also modified to your likings Red Ocktober. With syncon set to 1, it runs my way. With it set to 0, it runs your way.



Try both ways. I have measured the time it takes to complete that loop, and outputted the result to the screen at (0, 26). My way, it outputs 0, indicating that it is simply changing data. Your way, it outputs a high number, indicating that it is causing itself to sync after some(or maybe all) of the calls I make to change the rotation of an object. This is inefficient, as it updates the screen when it doesn't need to, which means valuable processing time is wasted that could have been spent on something else, and which proves my point that manual syncing is better.

Did I make a mistake?

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 18:20 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 18:25
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Quote: "Why can't this be a sensible debate rather than the childish argument you are making it Red Ocktober?"

you and the other one are the ones making childish remarks... i only followed in kind because it seemed that that's the only thing you seem to understand...

Quote: "I will continue this debate until either you understand or you prove me wrong. "

then you'll be debating yourself...

Quote: "Did I make a mistake?"

well... why don't you ask blanky...
Quote: "Yeah, Benjamin was wrong, and I must've fixed his example"
he seems to think you have...

i've already told you many times already why i think your approach is short sighted... i even took the time to show you... with your own code... now if that's not enough, then i'm sorry for ya...

i really think you just wanna waste more of my time arguing... that's all this is... and that, i'm not gonna allow you to do...

if you wanna code your stuff your way, then by all means, please do it your way... i really don't care...

find someone else to bother... don't keep following me around like a lost puppy or something Benji... why do you feel you have to prove something to me...



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Quote: "well... why don't you ask blanky..."

Because he already knows that manual syncing is better; hes not gonna argue otherwise.

Quote: "i think you just wanna waste more of my time arguing... and that, i'm not gonna allow you to do...
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Who? I'm not arguing, simply debating.. Nothing wrong in debating. I've got better things to do than to argue, however I feel I must debate this fact incase someone stumbles across this thread learning something false.

Oh and, because I want to know if I really am doing something wrong here!

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 18:35 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 18:36
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Quote: "I'm not arguing, simply debating.. "

then find someone who wants to debate this foolishness with you... this no longer interests me...

or...

work on your own game...

or...

turn off your computer and go outside... meet some people...
play a lil football...

meet a girl and go out on a date...

go fishing...

take a ride in your car (if you're old enough to drive)...

do something and stop trying to wasting any more of my time here...

in short... get a life...


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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 18:38 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 18:39
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Quote: "turn off your computer and go outside... meet some people... play a lil football, or meet a girl and go out on a date... "

I wish it was that easy, I really do.

Quote: "in short... get a life..."

Heh, that's kinda funny considering you replied to all of my posts almost instantly, implying that you were sitting there furiously tapping away at the refresh key waiting for me to post. If you're gonna say stuff like that, you'll need to take your own advice first.

Quote: "then find someone who wants to debate this foolishness with you... this no longer interests me..."

Come on, its not that hard. It's simply a matter of telling me who is making the mistake here.

Edit: Oh, and proving it..

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Quote: "Heh, that's kinda funny considering you replied to all of my posts almost instantly, implying that you were sitting there furiously tapping away at the refresh key waiting for me to post. "
shows how stupid you are... first of all, i'm at my office... i've got 5 computer monitors on right now... one is compiling some code for another project i'm working on... one is linked to a conference call... one is got a few browsers open, and they're set up to let me know when a response is made... and one is working on a lightmap...

i'm eating lunch, and a few friends from Ny just arrived here...

and by the way... they're howling laughing at you... they're the ones who suggested i tell you to get a life...


can you see how pathetically stupid that reply of yours was...

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Quote: "you and the other one are the ones making childish remarks... i only followed in kind because it seemed that that's the only thing you seem to understand..."
agreed that on the very early posts blanky could have been a little more diplomatic, but then you came along
Quote: "that's not your IQ, it's the frame rate"
no chance for him to even apologize, also, that sounds to be carefully worded, whereas
Quote: "that's a stupid idea"
doesn't sound to be so thought out...

The outcome of all this proving each other wrong will still have happened, but if blanky was given a chance to apologize, I think it would have been far less hostile... but no, you had to have your little dig at the iq/framerate thing - you can't go saying others are little kids if you don't give people a chance to say sorry before firing something far more spiteful in their direction.

I'm not going to get involved any further than saying I wlways thought manual syncing was better with a 'ticker' system included as well (who cares how fast it draws if the values only change like 10 times a second?)... but this whole thread just got ruined, I'm not even sure if the thread's starter even got the help he was after...

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Quote: "shows how stupid you are..."

I didn't know that. There is no reason to call me stupid. I'm just 'uninformed'.

Quote: "they're the ones who suggested i tell you to get a life..."

Programming is my life. Is it all that I hold dear. Have you got a problem with that?

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Quote: "I didn't know that. There is no reason to call me stupid. I'm just 'uninformed'."

yes... you are uninformed... what makes you stupid is assuming that you uninformed state of mind has anything at all to do with reality, and then posting it out loud...

Quote: "Programming is my life. Is it all that I hold dear. "

then you are indeed a pathetic personality... and this is not a put down, just a statement of fact... for somone to have nothing in their life but programming... well, that's just pitiful...

can't you see that...

what happens when the electricity goes out where you live... sheeeeeez...

do what i said... turn off your machine for a while, and try to get a life of some sorts... go outside somewhere... do something... round out your life, for god sake...

... or don't, i really don't care... just stop following me around the forum...

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Quote: "then you indeed are a pathetic personality... and this is not a put down, just a statement of fact... for somone to have nothing in their life but programming... well, that's just pitiful..."

I agree its pathetic, but it makes me happy. What I do wonder, is why you point this out. Does it make 'anger' you in some weird way? Does it scare you? Do you think "Ahhh a weird obsessive person! Get him away from me!". We are on a programming forum, a lot of people are like me, and I'm afraid if you can't accept that then you are in for a bumpy ride.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 18:57 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 19:00
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Quote: "Does it scare you?"


well, yeeeeaaaaaaahhhh!!!!

can ya understand me not feeling comfortable with some wierd lil shut in boy following me around...

... probably not.

go follow some of those other people on the forum around... maybe they'll like it...

ya see... that's what this is really all about... you just want someone to interact with... it has nothing at all to do with sync on or sync off...

you're just lonely...

i feel sorry for ya...

seriously... get from in front of the monitor and go outside...

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i smell a user who cant talk without leaning towards flames

ps. everyone is laughing at this in the chat room

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 19:02 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 20:18
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Dude, Benjamin's occupation is practically amateur programming.

He's going to make money off his hobby... How's that a bad thing? How does it suddenly become better to have more than one thing to concentrate on, rather than learning to do one thing really really well?

I didn't mention this earlier, but I feel I have to now; your insults are disgusting. I, was frank. I thought your idea was stupid, and that you were wrong. You then insulted:
- my parents, saying that my upbringing mustn't have been done well enough;
- my coding ability, telling me I was crap;
- my intelligence. What did you get in your SATS, perchance? Your GCSEs and your A-levels? Have you even done them yet?
- other people. Why. How does making enemies make you popular?

I've been like this before. But every single time I was wrong, I apologised in the end, and I hadn't insulted their personal lives. And they forgave me, every single damn one of them.

Word to the wise.

[edit] Benjamin says Red Ocktober has been banned for 2 days. [/edit]

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 19:08 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 19:09
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Red Ocktober: You seem to think that DBP is just DBC with new commands, some of the commands have changed over Classic to professional... look at post 52 (it's your own post)

Quote: "sync rate set 300"


sync rate expects ONE parameter, an integer. You have given it two... I'm not really going to look at the rest of your code, but also as well as some slight variation in syntax, keep in mind that DBPro compiles faster than DBC, auto syncing is VERY flickery in DBC, particularly with 2D graphics... without non-existant 5 Terahertz processors and 4 gigabyte graphics cards, DBC and auto-syncing are not a combination you'll want to put together...

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 19:49 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 19:50
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I didn't mention this earlier, but I feel I have to now; your insults are disgusting. I, was frank. I thought your idea was stupid, and that you were wrong. You then insulted:
- my parents, saying that my upbringing mustn't have been done well enough;
- my coding ability, telling me I was crap;
- my intelligence. What did you get in your SATS, perchance? Your GCSEs and your A-levels? Have you even done them yet?
- other people. Why. How does making enemies make you popular?
"

Too right blanky. That was bang out of order!
Look Red Ocktober, you're wrong, you've been proved wrong by 3 or 4 members of the forums in this thread.
You had no right to lash out at blanky like that - he was totally correct in saying that manual sync is faster than the automatic sync.
You should think about sorting out that arrogance of yours when you come back from that ban - if someone says your idea is "stupid" and gives a valid explanation for saying so, you shouldn't offend and insult the person who gave that comment just because they think different to yourself.. and that goes to anyone who backs it up aswell; I've seen that from you too!
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i feel sorry for ya...

seriously... get from in front of the monitor and go outside..."

Maybe you should get away from those 5 monitors of yours and learn to respect people. You said that blanky wouldn't speak to his parents like that, you should take a leaf out of your own book and talk to him and all the other developers without insulting them!

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I feel a ban coming on...

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Posted: 26th Nov 2005 20:03 Edited at: 26th Nov 2005 20:05
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Wow. How can someone be so wrong and act like they are so right? The usage of the sync command is indisputable fact. If there's doubt, all you have to do is test it, on his 5 monitors in his case.

The guy is some old lunatic strapped to a wheel chair in a rest home, playing video games and chastising forum members when he's not getting his medications.

What amazes me is that no matter what someone else says, friendly or not, he'll automatically denounce them as young and stupid. Then he'll insult every generalization he can make about them. And the guy can't even spell right. Wow. This guy should be banned forever. Every thread he's been associated with has ended with MOD action.

Peace.


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I picked up more on the fact that blanky and benjamin kept on subject, at some point, october moved on to football and girls. perhaps a little attempt to get everyone to shut up without having to apologize?

The fact he also said his friends were howling laughing straight away gave me the impression they knew nothing about the subject - would you ever catch TDK_Man laughing at someone like that because they were mistaken?

Anyway - all over now, good idea to let this one slip off page 1 - better still if it gets locked, in case some more people take his side, and the whole silly thing starts up again.

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funny how he hasnt replied back

oh well another good forum user going down the plughole

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Quote: "funny how he hasnt replied back "

what would be the point...

trying to get this guy
Quote: "Wow. How can someone be so wrong and act like they are so right? The usage of the sync command is indisputable fact."
.. to say what i am wrong about?

maybe...

or maybe an attempt to understand why he would come up with some foolishness like...
Quote: "The guy is some old lunatic strapped to a wheel chair in a rest home, playing video games and chastising forum members when he's not getting his medications."
... and why the moderaators would allow it to remain posted as it is clearly against the rules put forth in the forum ettiquette... not to mention that the kid saying it couldn't even keep up with me in my morning regiment... he should've been with me when i start my bench presses, i'd luv to see him bench 200Lbs... which is where i start... or do a two mile run with me before that...

maybe it's his father who is wheelchair ridden and on meds... or maybe it's the kid himself, seeing as this is the second time he has used this not funny phrase... either way, why was this not taken in exception by the moderators... i don't know...

or maybe to understand what this guy is babbling about...
Quote: "Look Red Ocktober, you're wrong, you've been proved wrong by 3 or 4 members of the forums in this thread."
... proved wrong about what???

or responding to one of my favorites...
Quote: "I thought your idea was stupid, and that you were wrong. You then insulted:"

what does he expect... maybe that's the way he talks to his lil friends on the street... but he expects to talk to me like that without getting his share back... then he is living in lala land...

there's more i could say... but in the final analysis, i let these lil sociopathic personalities draw me into their world of stupidity, so i have lil arguement to offer to the 2 day ban that was imposed...

at least the other guy also got a taste...

the point...

they keep talking about sync being faster and all that... but that's not the point of anything i said above... only a non experienced coder would use sync to make a program run as fast as it can, and, like i said above, when it is moved to another machine, it runs at a different frame rate...
they take non of this into account...

what about logic frequency... non of em even has any idea how both of these combine to affect how a game plays across different machines...

suppose it was a multiplayer game... and one machine is spinning away at 200 fps, and the other barely at 50...

naahhhh... the guy who said it should be left to rest was probably more right than he imagined... trying to smarten up this bunch is a waste of time...

@ sim set
Quote: "Quote: "sync rate set 300""
a typo, check the code snippet


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Posted: 28th Nov 2005 20:18 Edited at: 28th Nov 2005 20:20
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[edit] nvm, changed my mind, not rising to the challenge. I suggest that nobody else does either. [/edit]

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Quote: "not rising to the challenge. "

that's your problem... you see everything as a challenge...

there was no challenge...

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The morse code hospital called, they want their dots back.

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... couldn't resist, could ya

the child in you comes out regardless...

sorry, i'm busy... plus i need access to this forum... so i'm not gonna be baited by your foolishness again...

you'll have to find someone else to play with...

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Posted: 28th Nov 2005 20:44 Edited at: 28th Nov 2005 20:46
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Quote: "there was no challenge..."


Then why did you challenge him?

Quote: "... and why the moderaators would allow it to remain posted as it is clearly against the rules put forth in the forum ettiquette... not to mention that the kid saying it couldn't even keep up with me in my morning regiment... he should've been with me when i start my bench presses, i'd luv to see him bench 200Lbs... which is where i start... or do a two mile run with me before that..."


And you expect us to believe that? How do we know you even go to work, and have 4 monitors or whatever?

Quote: "... proved wrong about what???
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One word: sync.

Quote: "what does he expect... maybe that's the way he talks to his lil friends on the street... but he expects to talk to me like that without getting his share back... then he is living in lala land...

there's more i could say... but in the final analysis, i let these lil sociopathic personalities draw me into their world of stupidity, so i have lil arguement to offer to the 2 day ban that was imposed..."


Are you living in lil-lil land?

Sorry I have to do this. I tried to be nice, but when you insult everyone who trys to help, it has gone a "lil" too far.

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