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Geek Culture / DBP code : English or American?

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Deth Wish
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i thought TGC, or at least DB (or even more so...DBP) was based in the UK

hen why on earth is it
"COLOR OBJECT", "COLOR BACKDROP", "COLOR LIGHT"
and not
"COLOUR OBJECT"

whats up with that???


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Dave J
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Posted: 23rd Nov 2005 04:20
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More people live in the other place. Gotta aim for the larger market.


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hyrichter
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Because "colour" just looks plain ugly.


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Deth Wish
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technically, Colour is they way it OUGHT to be spelt

god damn examiners...dcked me major points because i used english english
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It's "Colour" and "Honour" all the way for us Canadians.


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dab
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Well, what would you like to type out everytime you want to color something?
color
or
colour?
I think colour is harder, but I'm from U.S. so that muse be why.


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The Real 87
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ok guys common sence now. When programing a large anything MINIMAL KEY STROKES. If you can cut 1 key per line out of 10,000 lines... you do the math.

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Dave J
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Quote: "ok guys common sence now. When programing a large anything MINIMAL KEY STROKES. If you can cut 1 key per line out of 10,000 lines... you do the math."


I really don't think you're going to use the 'colour' commands that often.


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Quote: "I really don't think you're going to use the 'colour' commands that often."

no need to be racist!

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The Real 87
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Quote: "no need to be racist!"


wow....... can you say liberal???

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Jeku
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Posted: 23rd Nov 2005 06:09 Edited at: 23rd Nov 2005 06:09
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I agree. Typing COLOR is weird to me, even though I use it every day with my PHP work. I will NEVER get used to the American short-hand.

Funny when I used to be a video game tester, we had to write up our bugs in "American". Everyone laughed when the instructor said that. The American execs actually get irate when they see colour, favourite, honour, etc. Just can't imagine hehe...

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Posted: 23rd Nov 2005 06:14
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Quote: "no need to be racist!"


Can't help it.


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JoelJ
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wow....... can you say liberal???"

nope

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Three Score
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hmmm lemme think
ooouh loouk at us were the uk we can add a u to every o(u)

lol
@"dont be racist"
that is frikkin hilarious(theres one word thats not shorthand)

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its COLOR, and that's the only way to spell it!

as a side topic, is it vampire or vampyre?


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David T
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I sawthing written on this now. It was baically, even though it's colour, Lee used color. And in DBPro it stayed the same for 'backwards compatability' (hah). Same with MAKE OBJECT PLAIN.

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At least with the Game SDK they use the correct spelling (mostly).

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Deth Wish
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Posted: 23rd Nov 2005 10:40 Edited at: 23rd Nov 2005 10:47
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Quote: "ooouh loouk at us were the uk we can add a u to every o(u)
"

bleh...americans...
luk, we can shortn o'r words. Putin a 'u' wher its suposed to be: to much of a mothful. And wer a biger contry, sise maters.


Quote: "Lee used color"

Quote: "Same with MAKE OBJECT PLAIN"

"May Gods of Language smite thee, oh Lee, with the dictionary of wrath!!!"
....or the wrath of dictionary
...or maybe both


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SirFire
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Posted: 23rd Nov 2005 11:59
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Quote: "Same with MAKE OBJECT PLAIN"

What other possible spellings could there be for those words?

MAUKE OUBJECT PLAUIN

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Lukas W
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Posted: 23rd Nov 2005 12:15
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maek ubjekt plein

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spooky
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Posted: 23rd Nov 2005 13:06
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It should be PLANE which is a flat object. A PLAIN has a completely different meaning.

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Posted: 23rd Nov 2005 13:39
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You could always change the string table entries of the default DLLs to convert the colour commands and everything else to proper () English.


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Posted: 23rd Nov 2005 16:51
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Quote: "ooouh loouk at us were the uk we can add a u to every o(u)"


Historically you'll find that's the wrong way around. It was the US that removed them (for reasons best known to them.. so, no change there then).

Anyway DarkBASIC is based on.. wait for it... BASIC. It follows that convention only, not any particular native dialect.

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Posted: 23rd Nov 2005 17:34
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That reminds me, I think it was POV Ray's scene description language that allows both ways of spelling colour.


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Jeku
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Quote: "Historically you'll find that's the wrong way around. It was the US that removed them (for reasons best known to them.. so, no change there then)."


And Canada was very close to accepting the American spelling--- it came down to a very close vote. Of course we're all happy that we kept to our English roots all these years later

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As has been said before 'American' or 'English U.S' is not a real language! It really annoys me when I see those options when I install software. There is only one english language - 'English English'. If we included all the different accents and regional variations just in the UK as standards we'd be up to our armpits in them languages!

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English (Scottish)
English (Yorkshire)
English (Cockney)
English (Retard)
eNG7154 (1337)
ENGFSILH 4 leIK CAPS lOK PRSIN (LOLOLOLOLOLOMFG!!111TWO)
Englith (Lithp).

Yes, lisp is the cruelest word ever invented. And the next installer I make will have all of the above languages.

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Quote: " As has been said before 'American' or 'English U.S' is not a real language!"

No, its a dialect.

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Quote: "What other possible spellings could there be for those words?"




Quote: "Historically you'll find that's the wrong way around. It was the US that removed them (for reasons best known to them.. so, no change there then)."


I read about that in Bill Bryson's excellent book Made In America. I've forgotten exactly, however, I think a lot of it rested on early dictionary writers deciding to eliminate the U.

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Ok, yeah I feel dumb about realizing it should be PLANE.

But I can also understand why it might be PLAIN, b/c a plane is a thing that flies, and plain is just well, without noticable features. So like if you had MAKE OBJECT PLANE, you might think you were about to create a jet or fighter, but MAKE OBJECT PLAIN, you might think you are modifying an object already created so that it's uninteresting. Like if you had Strawberry Rocky-Road ice cream object, and you said MAKE OBJECT PLAIN it would convert it into just vanilla ice cream. And that leads me to the question: "Where is the MAKE OBJECT SPECTACULAR command?". Like if you had a 12 polygon cube object, you could use the MAKE OBJECT SPECTACULAR on it and get a 4k poly animated gladiator model on a chariot.

So, um, yeah I see why it should be plane. btw, I'm half drunk.

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Quote: "Like if you had a 12 polygon cube object, you could use the MAKE OBJECT SPECTACULAR on it and get a 4k poly animated gladiator model on a chariot.
"

lol
you forgot, it adds the hot galadiator, skimpy, leather clad babes standing in the chariot, rubbin up against you, while you flex ur muscles and use your horse starps with your teeth, your swordwith the other, and switch to bow and arrow whenever required


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Culler? Onner? Fayvritt? I want the redneck translation version for DBProw.

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Live









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It.


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Impossible









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NOTHING!!!


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Look it up. USA decides to simpilify things, then sort of gives up somewhere down the line and decides not to carry on.

And you gotta love that email a while back that basically states what would have happened if it had kept going. Basically ends up looking like a Nazi version of English (clue is in the name there boys )

BASIC was invented by Americans (most English language programming languages are - unsuprisingly since there is like 5 times as many of you as us), so stands to reason they would use their own version of English. And that includes COLOR. Pretty much all languages I ever used that used the command for colour, used COLOR. Did have a welsh programming language on the BBC Micro once though.....

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"Did have a welsh programming language on the BBC Micro once though....."

COOOOL!

Sorry, for a couple of years we had no sky, and the only TV signal we could pick up in Somerset was Welsh - we think they put subliminal advertising in the programs because as time went by we all got urges to learn welsh and move there. Thankfully we now have sky, which is teaching us to be American instead

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I now know some Welsh

nos da!

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Isn't there something in the US constitution about them making their own language? Could be a rumour - I never checked it out

Or rumor if you Americans prefer.

When I worked for a game with an American publisher, the NTSC version was the first one worked on, so we had to 'americanise' all our text. What amused me most was, it later got sent to localisation services for the PAL version, and got turned into French, German and UK English
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its a question of yanks spelling things phonetically, and trying to avoid their roots with france and england.

the new world was not a very educated place at its conception and there where many cultures whos accents most probably drove the language another way. new york was once new amsterdam.

erb and or herb cracks me up the most. the letter H for harry isnt arry or ippo for hipppo.
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Quote: "yanks spelling things phonetically"

hmmm....still doesnt explain aluminium to aluminum (a loo min um)
bleh

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or bolagno to balonie.... what now???? huh Americnas what ya got now???

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87 - Stop the garbage posts. Test your sig with real posts. And it's bologna.

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Actually, Aluminium was our bad. The Americans actually have it right (and named it first), but the UK changed it to have the extra syllable.

Can't remember why - someone may have been on dubious substances.

Aluminum is actually 'correct', Aluminium is the UK error that we've taken to using.
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hmm...k , theres always a first for everything eh?
the worst bit about this whole ordeal is, they expext you to follow their conventions...why??? i mean, if i wite up my documents in colour, whats the big deal, its not like they cannot comprehend the meaning of the word, and its correct spelling too (just not theirs, which came after). bleh

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Quote: ". And it's bologna."

its not baloney? never did understand the spelling of that word. However while british english is very readable, it feels funny to see references to different 'colours' and medals of 'honour' all over the different 'centres'

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Quote: "Yes, lisp is the cruelest word ever invented."


Surely that honour (with a U) would have to go to 'dyslexic'


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I'm dyslexic so I'm allowed to make jokes about it.

"dyslexia" is a great term for us people who read letters in the wrong order, as if you jumble them up you get "daily sex" so we just think people are calling us studs!

Seriously though its very dangerous being both dyslexic and alcoholic, you can't even drink soft drinks incase you choke on your own Vimto.

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