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The Wilderbeast
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I thinkit would be a good idea if we are all posting in source code, that when we have variables e.g. x# that we call something to do with the source code. Like if i was making something for moving a car, instead of calling them x#, y# and z#. Call them carx#, cary# and carz#. This then makes it a lot easier for the person who assembles all the code together so that if they find 2 source codes that both use x# or whatever. They don't have 2 go through it all and change everything to carx# or whatever. Although they could just use find and replace. But still...


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Quote: "*Sits down , and start codding on Sharky*"


Thought you was making the dbc racing game generator

http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/csimon/spain03/days2_3.htm << where i went for my holiday or www.portaventura.es
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Quote: "Thought you was making the dbc racing game generator "


yeap i am , i`m working on Sharky and Racer becouse i don`t need alot to finish Sharky


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Posted: 11th Jan 2006 18:17
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no offence Dodic but it is advisable to stick to just one project.
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right ok. If anyone wants to give code or ask me to chat on MSN or something give me an email @

[email protected]

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can anyone help me with the weather engine? I've done rain (or rather this random french bloke(or even lady)did it) but i need help creating the random weather so that it doesn't pick sunny and then go onto storms

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How will the weather system work? Particles? Applying a texture to a skysphere/box?

I'm interested, as I'm planning on writing at least part of the engine and it'd be nice if I didn't accidentally block off whatever it is you're trying to do.

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Quote: "How will the weather system work? Particles? Applying a texture to a skysphere/box?

I'm interested, as I'm planning on writing at least part of the engine and it'd be nice if I didn't accidentally block off whatever it is you're trying to do. "


ok the basic idea is that in a car there will be particals falling down the screen. In 1st person mode the same thing happens, but in a cut seen for example, it will be particals that splash on other things (collision )
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can anyone help me with the weather engine? I've done rain (or rather this random french bloke(or even lady)did it) but i need help creating the random weather so that it doesn't pick sunny and then go onto storms
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This is ok as long as it gradually does so. Maybe you could experiment with blending the two "time zones" to make it look as if the sun is breaking through the storm...

P.s dumbo + dodic - how are you guys doing??? I havent heard from you two for a long time.
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Posted: 12th Jan 2006 18:06
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i`we send you a music link thingy..

and better put dumbo , Dodic...


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ok here is a picture representing the basic structure of the plot:



Enjoy the juicy plot (this is just a two minute watered down version that is easy to digest
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has anyone made any music 4 this project yet? cus the one on the menu i made sucks big time. I haven't got any decent(as in good cus i can't spell) music on my PC. So i had 2 use the ?$^*(@@)(*)(* (rather rude word) music that came wid DBC. Has anyone downloaded the menu cus i want sum feedback so i can ikmprove it more. That was only the second version of it. U can download it in a post above here(some where)

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i'v just come up wid a great idea 4 the weather engine.
perhaps if u have a skybox and load the apropriate texture 4 the time of day and hav all the rain and sun and stuff. But 4 night why don't u use gamma fading. Damn...that would mean the HUD would fade as welll

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well yeap , i did , and i have send it to s0l1dsnak3123.


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You could use fog, except make it close and color it black...


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Quote: "You could use fog, except make it close and color it black...
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tried it???
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Posted: 16th Jan 2006 21:01 Edited at: 16th Jan 2006 21:02
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huh?

Oh yeah, you also might want to make the camera range the same range as the fog.


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is there anyway you could make a seperate camera looking at the HUD only???
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seperate cameras I believe is only possible in DBP...

...maybe one day I'll finish a project
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oh... I dont have it anyway
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I'd help you too but I'm working on game developer.

Hey doods, check out Game Developer's official page at http://gamedeveloper1.tripod.com/. Visit my work in progress thread too. Game Developer, make your own 2d games and have fun doing it.
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i made this flight simulator using DBC and i had sprites 4 the menu but i forgot to delete them when the flying starts and so some of the images are using the same image number as the sprites. So i got a really strange effect which inckuded having an extra camera looking out from the plane. But nothing in my code did that. It was just cus of the sprites. By the way. The person who is making model vehicles i saw your one of the car. It was pretty good except 4 the low poly. But i can't talk cus i'm terrible at modeling. 4 the gun switching you could have it so if you switch guns it changes a variable and loads the gun model accordingly. Also how is the machine gun gonna be made cus it's really hard. In real life u cann't see the bullets so just use tracers and it would be pointless trying to animate all those bullets. U could use raycasting but that is only in DBP which i ain't got. There r sum forum posts about it if u search 4 machine gun. Soz if it looks long it is just so i don't get accused of spamming the thread. Great news... I don't have 2 wait 2 post messages any more!!! they appear straight away

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Heh, i remember when i released a 'flight simulator' in DBC in the 20 line challenge forum a while back... It was just triangles flying, but they were so peerrrtty with their movements ^_^

Still, thanks for the support Wilderbeast.

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i've finally got to grips and decided how to make the weather engine. Nut i was wondering if we were just having a simple skybox with a texture according to what time it is. Or having particle clouds and rain(i've modeled this anyway)and posibly aircraft that fly across the sky(just 4 effect!) I've started making it already so if there's anything anybody wants me 2 add then say it now cus once i get going on it, then i don't want to be modifieing the code just to make sum random and useless thing like puddles.
U can probably do the machine gun with maths so that it calculates a point in front of the gun and sees if there's anything colliding with it. Great work on the models, is there a website or forum post with sum screenies?

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Quote: "Nut i was wondering if we were just having a simple skybox with a texture according to what time it is. Or having particle clouds and rain(i've modeled this anyway)and posibly aircraft that fly across the sky(just 4 effect!) "


the latter would be brilliant - although it would be fine to just use the first one if you come up with a glitch
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Sorry, I haven't been putting in anywhere near as much effort on this project as I should have been doing recently; what with one thing and another, I ended up spending the last three days trying to get the Gentoo Linux Minimal Installation Disc to compile a nice kernel onto my USB hard drive...

I logged on to Windows for a few minutes to download some stuff, and I quickly wrote a nice, primitive universe (object) loader.

I haven't had a chance to test it (it would only work properly combined with other files as a complete project), but have a dig through and tell me what you think. If someone makes a logging file, make a function called LogError() to log errors to a file and then uncomment all the 'rem LogError("blah")' commands in fatal error places.

This loader is pretty much bulletproof (it checks almost everything), and will report accurate and concise errors if you enable the LogError commands.

[edit] Nnnnngggg. The defaults for xscl#, yscl# and zscl# should be 100.0, not 0.0.. >.<
I'll upload a fixed version later. For now:


That's all so far. [/edit]

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ok thanks for that blanky. Im on my little brother's account on windows right now (And I've got so many things on my account - I simply cannot be bothered to let it load up ) I'll take a look at that tommorrow 'cos even if I did look at it right now I wouldn't be able to comment on it
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Great... I've only just started the weather engine and i've already got a problem. I've started by making a matrix and creating a big sphere and texturing it with a sky texture....A skybox in effect. It looks great from the outside, but of course you won't be playing the game outside the sky. So when i went inside the sphere it disapers completely, it's not because it's a small sphere or anything. Cus its as big as the matrix which is 10000,10000. This is a vital part of the weather engine and i desparatly need hlp. Nice work every body else!!!

P.S at this moment i feel like throwing my pc out the window

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please mistake me if I'm wrong but isn't a sky box a box shape??? Try this turtorial if you need any further help.

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=58335&b=10
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ok... skysphere!
oh and by the way, when i asked about getting in and out of cars etc. You said about using cutscenes, if that is the case then the camera should be inside the car etc so that if you get in in a blue car and it played a cutscene of you getting into a red car. Basicly what i'm trying to say is the camera in the cutscene should be inside the car so it doesn't matter if you get into a blue car you can't tell the difference cus you cant see the outside of it, it also saves a lot of animating timne

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well... yes! also we'll be needing some models of modified cars. Such as these:

http://www.modifiedcars.com/cars/12848.htm

http://www.modifiedcars.com/cars/14815.htm

http://www.modifiedcars.com/cars/14627.htm

http://www.modifiedcars.com/cars/14549.htm
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i like the cars...but there's one thing we MUST have. A monster truck!!!
also with the mod cars include some longer ones, who's doing the car modelling cus i lost track

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Quote: "i like the cars...but there's one thing we MUST have. A monster truck!!!
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lol yeh it would make a great unlockable.

OK this is how it goes:

DBnewb and dodic are doing the modeling (hopefully)

Blanky and The wilderbeast are working on the code

Im doing the 2D art and the basic "putting together" of everything, As well as making the website (still Under construction).

Dodic and www.invisiblechainsaw.com are donating the music. (thanks alot )

Anybody else willing to add anything to this project is more than welcome.

All help is greatly appreciated.

[edit] hows this for a good Idea (as a cheat) - A Newer looking version of Mr T's car from the A team!!! "I pity the fool!!!"
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i'm also looking to improve the things that i've made, is there anything i can improve on the menu? if there is i will do it after i've finished the weather engine

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Basically, you should invert your skybox.

To save rendering times triangles facing the wrong way are automatically culled (ignored). You can turn culling off for an object using Set Object, but you'd be better off just flipping your skybox/(sphere) inside out.


(assuming 1 was the number of the skysphere):
scale object 1,-100,-100,-100

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thanks a lot
my friend got liberty city stories 4 his psp today... we did a rampage in an 18 wheeler, god that was fun!!!

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lol any good features we could try to add or maybe even improve on?

[EDIT] Wilderbeast get on MSN please [/EDIT]
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i'm getting really anoyed now, thanks 4 helping show the skysphere. Now i have another problem, it's simple enough but my mind is getting currupt trying to solve it. Don't laugh at how simple it is.



it is meant to increase the light or decrease it according to the rgb value, but it won't work, i know why... it's cus of the IF THEN statements, but i can't think what numbers to put in for IF R#>...

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don't worry i've fixed it now

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does any body have a clue as to how i can do rain???

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Bleh, I added you to MSN. I was going to try and help, but I didn't understand what you were trying to do (hence the addingness) >.>

Anyway, with regards to your new rain, it's easy man! Just make a handful of plains, texture with a rain image, and (making sure the plains are rotated to always face the camera) just move the plains constantly downward and slightly in whatever direction the wind is going.

When a particle (plain) touches the ground, move it back up to the top of the sky again.

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just incase you get the impression - this thread is not dead- I've just been busy... family problems
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Hows this for a player's car???

http://www.modifiedcars.com/cars/1181.htm

What ya think? thing is... It'll be a fun time with the textures.
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Nice...That would look really good in the game

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yeh... if someone knows how to model and texture ect. ect.

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whats the web site 4 this game?

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s0l1dsoft.tk - wip

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i have done but it don't work, u enter your name and u get on2 the main page but u can't go anywhere from there. u click on a link and tells u 2 enter your name, so u do it again and you go back 2 the main page again.

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i jus found another 3d modeler, here's the thread/post or whatever it is, he has made some cars like a porche and lambogini
[/href]http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&b=3&t=60962&p=3[href]

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yup looks good - i'll take a closer look at it later, 'cos I don't feel very well...

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same ere, aparantly i've got a throat infection. So i aint dun anything 2 the weather engine 4 5 days now. soz.

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