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Green7
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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 16:12
@ general sephiro: thx, my first dragon modells ever. got a polycount between 1300 and 1800 polys. Not much for main caracters...

For the dbp thing: we need dbp because the dragons got skeletal animations. as this started no one knew if it would be dbc or dbp. so lets say: its in db. (some of the self called hard core devs and "1337" coders may would crucify me for this... but hey, isnt all about fun? I was reading much topics in this whole forum, and i got the feeling that some forgot about the fact that every oaktree starts as a little nut... )
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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 17:26
Dam you stole post 100...*sob* *sob*

Anyway my website and email went kaput today (dead) so I really am annoyed...

We are converting the project to DBP from DBC and we will have DBC at a sort of old rubbish computer backup

@Green7 Wow you are full of wisdom arnt you

Till then,

DarkEternity

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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 17:50
so is this going to be moved to the DBpro board or WIP.

visit my site (unfinished)
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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 18:12 Edited at: 17th Apr 2006 18:14
Hello again,

Wow i dont no where to begin...well i guess i could start off with the return of Big Man.

To Big Man, Glad to have you back it would be great if you could sort out the menu (new game and all that) DE will tell you about the different options and what not, and maybe you could desgin the hud menu witch ill show below. its not very well done but its what we could have for the hud menu, that and the in game menu which should come up when you press ESC with Quit, Continue, Options

Theres no real style, but the main menu maybe the buttons could look like there made out of stone ? and the ingame menu could be semi see-through.

[edit] Scrap that ill give u a download of it, much bigger.

[img][/img] here is that spider i did like in 10 mins not finished but the bases

How do i found out the ping of these models then ?

Peace out, Eray

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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 18:13 Edited at: 17th Apr 2006 18:14
at the moment neither WIP or DBP ...

I have got too much stuff goin on so eray can if he wants but that is his decision...

Eray wants a working demo by the end of the week!!!

CGI effect program has an upgrade available that needs to be purchased so i gotta do that...

music has been coming along well but that still gonna take a while and that has to be added to the demo...

my website and email has gone down and there are no signs of getting it back in the next 72 hours so I am pretty much done for...

the models arnt finished and to be able to create an effective camera I need finished models...

etc etc

So in other words I will be dead by the end of the week (oh and I have been so busy I have an essay of 4 pages due in tomorrow that I havent even started due to dedication)

Till hell has frozen over,

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Green7
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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 19:09
so, what models do you need to be finished for a working demo?
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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 19:22
i am going to need the dragon fixed (in DBP the front of the head goes slightly out of place...

also the wings are invisible from underneath

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Big Man
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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 20:27
hi eray I will give the menus and hud a go but the compass might take a lot longer.

Cheers

BM

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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 20:32
hey big man,

send the scripts to me when your done ok?

see ya

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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 21:27
sure.

One thing though you say scripts (I am easily confused) do you mean the code cause I wont be scripting it.

If you mean the code then sure thing.

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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 21:32
hello,

BM he does mean code i hope....


And does any one have Treemagik, because we could realy do with some nice trees and plants and what not, so if your interested just tell us now and then you can send us some shrubs and all that kinda greenery. Thanks


Stay Green, Eray

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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 21:40 Edited at: 17th Apr 2006 21:45
what do you mean DE about the head? show me a screen, mine works fine... that wing-thing ia because its a plain. you must set the object culling to on... or was it off...? Done by "set object" command.
but it seems ligted wrong then...
I will do a second plain. makes higher polycount... what do you expect as the upper limit for a mainchar? the bonedragon i made today got 2200 finaly...
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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 22:05 Edited at: 17th Apr 2006 22:06
I did a really quick mock up of the layout of the menu The graphics you see wont nessicarily (Spelling ) be the ones which are used I will wait until the game is well onthe way before finalising the graphics.

So this is the sort of look I was thinking for the main menu.

Any coments are welcome (Please bare firmly in mind that this isnt what the actual menu will look like.)



What do you think of the layout?

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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 22:24
Hey everyone,

Why do you tend to ask me questions rather then eray?

@Big Man

I do mean code...

Nice menu but eray told me no humans...

Also I was thinking an animated menu so if you were to code that then after it done I tell it to play a video in the background then everybody happy!!!

@Green7

I can't get a picture up at the moment because as posted multiple times ANIRE has been dead for ages now... DAM HACKERS!!!
I will attach a.s.a.p

@Eray

I really do think you should get treemagik yourself...

My brain hasnt given in yet,

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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 22:24 Edited at: 17th Apr 2006 22:56
hmm, it looks a bit, how to say, too normal. not thatyour work is bad, but there can be more.
I would prefere something as a table with things on it, made in 3d (yes, I love 3d!).
For loading an saving a chest, for exiting a skull, for start a map with a dagger, for otions a book. the whole thing lightet by a candle, located on the skull. the camera will either shift to the book for reading the options, or to the map for starting a game, or the chest wil open and the camera gazes in for saved treasures...
it must be interessting and must sense alive so the player is in the game as soon he starts up, not after choosing options and start a new game. that's my view of the situation. guess its a masterpiece to do, if not, let's do it.



tell me what you nee for realizing this, i will do it next weekend at latest. til then work with dummy objects.
remember: this mus not be how the menu wil look if the others want something differend or if we take your idea.


Sorry for you DE.
i made myself an account at imagehack this afternoon so i can host the pictures on my own. it could be a solution.


EDIT: something like this...
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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 22:36
I just dont likre them cause they scale rthe pictures...

Anyway I agree with green7 on that I really should be streaming 3d all either recorded onto a hi definition video or actually streaming from real object animations

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Big Man
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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 23:01
what green7 just said is beyond my abilities cause I have only just started modelling and I am not very good I could code a menu but I cant do what green7 has just said.

Sorry

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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 23:05
green7 models and you and me script

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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 23:38
@ DE

Sure thing

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Posted: 17th Apr 2006 23:44
Hey,

make this a quick one but thats nice BM i like the pictures but i was going for a more Natural feel.

I like the object idea Green but these arnt the kinda objects a dragon would have, you get wat i mean ? maybe the options could be carved out of rock? or somthing like that

Dragons like to horde Tressure, Eray

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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 00:28
that's true eray, thats true... hmm, the skull will work, the chest too, maybe i can set it up an a treasure room. instead of the table lots of coins and the relevant items looking out of them, or are placed in between. but this endures a bit to long for a short scratch.

@ bm: sorry, dit not mention: you're the coder, I'm the modeller, i cant what you do, or it will need a lot more time, and you cant what i do or else.. so everyone does what he can as best. that's what a team 's about, right?
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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 14:39 Edited at: 18th Apr 2006 17:34
Quote: "@ bm: sorry, dit not mention: you're the coder, I'm the modeller, i cant what you do, or it will need a lot more time, and you cant what i do or else.. so everyone does what he can as best. that's what a team 's about, right? "


I agree. I have some really good ideas of how I could code the menu.

BM

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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 15:45 Edited at: 18th Apr 2006 18:23
ok I have the basics of what you might need all I have coded is the object selection nothing happens yet if you click on anything.

The objects will be replaced with green 7's objects
it is quite chunky but it works well.



Just bare in mind this is just to show how I wish it to look the code might be changed later.

tell me what you think I can add and then I will try to add it.

cheers

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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 19:17
Hiya,

Wow BM nice job i like this, i realy do, its exactly what i wanted, with one thing thou - when your click and the writing comes up could you put the writing away from the object itself ? and maybe incase it in some stone (the words) and instead of a "press return to go back" have a (x) button in the conner of the rock to go back.

But apart from that i think its raely nicly done

And as for the rest of you a quick update plz ? i like to get them every day

Stay Sharp, Eray

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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 19:34
ok eray I have done what I think you said.

The crosses will be part of the textures of the models but for now they are just letters.

I hope this is what you mean.



copy the code over to dbp and try it.

Tell me what you think

Cheers

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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 19:39 Edited at: 18th Apr 2006 19:43
Erm...lol as i say i dont got DBP but will it work in db ? or just send me some screenies or you could wait for DE to get back online then he can tell me about it ? or even make it a finished thing and make it a download any are fine some better than others


[edit] no no wait im being dumb i tried it...it worked very nicly done so you've got the quit....options....new game.....load nicly done, as soon as Green7 is ready he can makes some quick skulls and gems

Thanks Big Man, Eray

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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 19:44
hi

sorry I didnt realise I have edited this code to run in classic.



cheers

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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 20:30
hello,

oblivsly didnt get my msg above with edit...

Quote: "[edit] no no wait im being dumb i tried it...it worked very nicly done so you've got the quit....options....new game.....load nicly done, as soon as Green7 is ready he can makes some quick skulls and gems
"

its ok

and also wait for DE's post to tell you wat he thinks

Dont eat to much its bad , Eray

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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 21:09
Im glad you liked it hopfully de will too.

Cheers

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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 22:04
Hey everyone,

Why the sudden "wait for DE" approach... As you's have been saying we are a team... go with your instincts...

I will try out the code but at the moment I cant due to me setting back up my website... give me an hour or so

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at home now and i will do some modellin work afer i eaten something. nice work BM! that's how i meant it should be!
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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 22:13
ok cool good luck modeling

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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 22:16
sorry for this double post but:

I have a story to add to my list of torture...:

Today my I.C.T teacher told me

"You seem very arrogant to me and i would have thought someone who says has done so much would have been thrilled to use fireworks (program) and you could have taught me some stuff... Also you say you have done tons of stuff but your school work says otherwises... I am warning you, start proving you are not a fake or I will pull you off the DIDA course

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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 22:36
Hello,

If you dont mind me asking Green7 what will you be modling today ?

Dragon ?
Main Menu stuff?

or maybe you would like one of my models to erm *sigh* complete ?

Get back to me, Eray

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@ DE: take it serious, scool is the base for your further life man (i hated it always as my parents told me, but now i wish i was not that lazy and if i did a bit more than the minimum, i could now make a scool for game developement, but i know, i wasted my chances...)

@ Eray: im doing a bit menu stuff, the skull is modelling 90% finished.
still thinking about how to set the scene...

your models i wil do later, first i'll complete the ones that not work properly. i think its a failure about the bones...
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Green7 I do take school serious but my teacher just cant face being beaten...

He started an flash mx animation club and I knew what I was doing and showed him up big time... the same happened the other day while he was teaching so now he really does want revenge

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o-ho! A man who cant loose... got no balls at all!

by the way, does your mail work again now? i fixed the dragon's head. strange thing, was really surprised. sems to be a problem about the weighting of vertices if you skin them. was a real tinkering job.
i send it to you if your mail works again.

EDIT:
By the way, forget about the "set shadow shading" thing. it won't work with these models, this is very, very tricky to do, at last now, as all work is done. if you wish to use it i must redo the whole modell. possibly later, but anyway, shadows of DBP are very slow.
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hello green7,

Just thought i would let u no that DE has packed it in for the night 10 o clock (GMT) and wont be back till 3 in the afternoon (GMT) and i think his email and that still has to be re-connected so try it again 2moro, and could you by any chance show me the skull u've hopefully been working on ? and i was thinking that the skull could be placed on a rock and then rock was kinda low so you could see the cave entrance so you could click the cave entrance if you wanted to leave ? and the skull could be new/multiplayer game and the gem could be load and then some other lump of tressure could be options. the entrance to the cave could also be the light source

Keep it Real, Eray

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i know this is off topid but what is ict dida?

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Eray, just wondering, besides asking other people to make this entire game for you with no return and modelling a few creatures, what have you done to help with this project?

I think its about time that I mentioned my previous post about you guys being unbelievable was not directed as a comment, but stating that I found it unbelievable that Eray comes out of nowhere showing no more effort than any of the other horrid team requests on these boards made by newcommers who dont like programming so they just get others to do it for them, and that you all go along with it and make his game for him.

Either way, now that you somehow have assembled a team (I really dont understand how you managed to with the little information/effort provided in the first post, then again newcommer's enjoy jumping on and off team projects quite a bit), goodluck with it, though I really dont think you deserve it.

- RUC'

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HEY EVERYBODY CLICK HERE: http://www.kinggamers.co.uk
HEY EVERYBODY CLICK HERE: http://www.ruccus.net/

Notice a difference? I do. RUCCUS.NET dont work. Ruccus, when your done "revamping" your site come back with something positive to say please.

These guys here are moving along pretty well. I admit Eray just jumped outta the shadows and conquered a team and guess what...I give him 2 thumbs up. He and DE and Db newbie and green and....well everyone else is living out the dream I had when I first requested a team; progress man....progress.

Spend some more time fixing your site up and when you take a break from that, come here and try to encourage this project instead of discourage it.

@Eray and DE, if you want music, I will TRY to make some. I warn you though, I export to mp3 only, I dont use MOD since it sounds 100% like midi. I just need yall to tell me exactly what type of music this project needs so I dont end up making 10 songs and they dont match.

Good work. I hope I didnt post too late and yall dropped this proj
Whoo that was long......

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Posted: 19th Apr 2006 10:59 Edited at: 19th Apr 2006 12:42
hi green7 when you do the models can you send me them individually and I can set up the scene.

@Eray I have been thinking, can I carry on to do more of the coding (Not just menus and huds) cause I reckon I can lear a lot from this project Design wise if I stayed on after the menus were completed.
What I am trying to say is to give me more coding tasks and I will try my best to do them for you. Only if this is ok with the rest of the team.

Cheers

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Hello all,

Firstly at Ruccus, I dont think your flame is welcome here and may i say that every one on the team is doing it out of their on free will and kindness, using their skills and learning from others. I know ive learnt to start modeling, a bit more about coding and a lot more about what it takes to be a team leader, As for what i do as "team leader" is keep that team in control and on task, which you might not think is enough but i think it is vital for this projects development.

Secondly at Game Freak10k, thank you for sticking up for me, i wasnt on last night so i couldnt reply to this any sooner. As for the music, alot is being done by DE and im sure he would be delighted for you to take it off his hands, oringaly there was two types of music, one normal carm game loop and the other was an intense battle game loop, but i think we need to add to this maybe some depressing music for when it rains another type of music for a storm and another for when it snows.

And lastly at Big Man, We would love you to do more coding, looking at the list what do you think you could do (list below)

* Colision with Map and Other Objects
* Death Proc
* Different Types of Flame
* Chat/sever (multiplayer function)
* save/load
* animal AI's
* Better movement controls
* camera angels
* other (please tell me what else you think needs doing)


enjoy your selfs, Eray

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Hi eray

I would be happy to do the better movement and camera angles.

Could you give me more info on the different kinds of flame.

I am usless at collisions so I might find it useful to work with DE at doing them.

Cheers

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Not to continue this useless babble but how or why is my website relevant at all here...?

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I've been following this thread with a sick curiosity. It's like an undiscovered tribe deep in the jungle. A social experiment...

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www.ruccus.net leads to a url "Page Cannot be Displayed" error message.

Interested in the tutorials....
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Hey everyone there has been major activity so I will try to answer to everyone...

@Green7 My email is now set up and the website will be up soon so send it...

@Cash curtis II you must admit you flamed when you first posted I couldn't help thinking "What a d**khead" (*ed for thoughs sensetive) but that one didnt seem like a flame to me and just explain you opinion on this here...

@Game Freak 10K you posted a bit late I just got 2 more music makers to join but I might need you later so keep an eye out ok?

@Big Man you focus on bringing the camera movement and actual movement to DBP and I will start with collision and chat system yeah?

@Ruccus you give the impression to people here that you think you are better then anyone else with your "experience" etc but you lack the basics e.g. advertising a broken site

@BenoJ ICT DIDA is the new advanced Computer GCSE course it covers animation, graphics, website design and multimedia etc worth 4 GCSES

@Eray Thanks for posting saying nite for me... I will speak to you on MSN in a bit ok?

@Everyone flames are welcome but when they are constructive... Ruccus you really should read this...

but anyway does anyone else wanna join the team at all?

Till then,

DarkEternity

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@de

Sure thing But first I will finish the menu.

BM

Our aim is to keep the loo's clean, your aim can help.
Dark Eternity
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Posted: 19th Apr 2006 19:05
Yeah well of course I finishing website first...

I am DarkEternity (DE for short) OWNER OF ANIRE!!!
We are looking for a coder, modelers etc

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