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FPSC Classic Work In Progress / Eve of the Dead -- DOWNLOADABLE DEMO!!!

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Posted: 26th Apr 2006 00:39 Edited at: 26th Apr 2006 00:44
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gauh...woops I eccedently posted two times!

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Good work. I just played the demo (with the patching this time) for about the 3rd time examining everything. More realistic lighting! I and I like the key thing wit the whole puzzle horror game, thats a good mix! Just don't take advanatge of it! Uhm...like I said the lighting was splendid and the red lights with the pop machines was a good idea! One thing though, just to warn you. If this is going to be a commercial game, I'd be careful! First of all you marabole(spelling?), and then the coca cola brand machine. Thats complete copyright with out permission . What I would do is take it into some animation program and change the names and design. Then you'll be A-OKAY! But anywas very good! Keep up the good work. Also, I have a Qeustion. May I link to you website(if you have one). Well E-Mail me at ~ PelleS@psstudios.net ~ Thankyou! And keep up the good work! Contact me when its done! Also if you ever need any entites or prefabs, just tell me I can make it for you!( I got nothing to do anywas while I wait for my order to come in of FPSC!)

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Thanks for your comments, PS Studios. The game is freeware, so I don't think there will be a problem with those companies (free advertising for them). But if I get an email from Coca-Cola or Marlboro asking me to remove those models, I will
I don't have a website for my games yet, but I will let you know when I get one. Thanks for the entities offer, I may need a couple soon, so I'll keep it in mind!
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I suggest you remove them now. Coca-cola sue at any chance they get. They even have their own shade of red and if anyone else uses it, they can instantly be sued by the coca cola company. In short, take out the coca-cola vending machine.

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You gotta be kidding me... How the heck can you copyright a colour!?I It's like me copyrighting a colour in the microsoft logo and using them. It's rediculous!
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Posted: 26th Apr 2006 03:41 Edited at: 26th Apr 2006 03:53
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If Coca-Cola contacts me asking for the model of the Coke machine to be removed, I will remove it.

BTW - you can't copyright a color

However, if you would like, I can include this disclaimer in the user agreement of the installation:

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Disclaimer: This game is freeware and has been created for recreational purposes only. It does not represent any of the artists nor their management in any way. Fair Use Notice: This game may contain copyrighted material whose use has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner(s). This game is operated under the assumption that its non-commercial use on the Web constitutes 'fair use' of said copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law."
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How do you crouch?

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press (and hold) "C"

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In Eve of the Dead, Ctrl is the crouch button.
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I'm downloading this demo as soon as I get home. The screen shots ook amazing and I can rely get a feel of the place just by looking at them.

I home this gets released soon.

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Now that I know how to crouch I can give you my opinion. I noticed there was no custom media in this game (or at least, nothing that you made yourself) and I actually liked this. Because there was nothing in it that was originally yours, we can really get a feel for the type of gaming experience you intended. The only things I could not find elsewhere were the music and the menu screens, all of which were amazing, by the way. The music was top-notch. You did an outstanding job.

I also liked the level layout and the small details, like the security system with actual screenshots on it, or the notes on the bulletin board. I will say, however, that after I killed the first zombie I wandered around for a while without knowing what I was supposed to do.

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Read what I said. They have copyrighted their own certain SHADE of red. Using the exact same shade as them is illegal. You can copyright a shade of a colour very easily, don't tell me you can't.

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And just to back Tom up and prevent a long argument here, Tom is right. I remember reading it in the newspaper. If you don't believe him, I'm sure you could find evidence vis Google. Not that it matters; we're getting off topic.

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Posted: 26th Apr 2006 19:31 Edited at: 26th Apr 2006 19:37
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Well Tom, not to be an A-hole and all, but he said hes not selling the game. And if he's not selling the game, then he's in a complete fine position.

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I'm not selling the game, it's free.
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I know I changed it...

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I know he's not selling the game. I said that coca cola sue for use of their stuff. I didn't say if you were selling it or not, and quite frankly, do you think coca cola care? If I were them and I saw this i'd sue instantly since it is unauthorised use of their stuff. But I don't know if they would sue or not, so I have no right to attempt to channel or voice their opinions or thoughts. So i'll leave it at that.
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Quote: "Read what I said. They have copyrighted their own certain SHADE of red. Using the exact same shade as them is illegal. You can copyright a shade of a colour very easily, don't tell me you can't."


Oh sorry Tom, I misunderstood you. I thought you were talking about them copyrighting something on the colorscale, but you meant that they copyrighted a NAME that they made up for a particular shade of red. There's a difference between the name of a shade and the actual shade, for instance, if someone copyrighted the name "Navy Blue," which is r:0 g:0 b:128, then that would mean that people couldn't use the name "Navy Blue." However, anyone could still use the shade of blue: r:0 g:0 b:128. Because you cannot copyright an actual shade of a color, only the name. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Tom you are very correct! They can, becuase they go for the money. But I hgih;ey dougt they look at this then. Well good luck.

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Like I said, if Coca-Cola asks for the Coke machine to be removed, I'll remove it. No big deal.
But if it's really that big of a deal to you, maybe you should talk to the user I bought the model from on this forum, since it's being sold in a model pack.

Anyways, back on topic...
The next update is coming soon, I'm almost done with the 3rd level
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Quote: "hey, Walking Dead , are you working on this game alone?"


Yes, it's my first game, I'm just making it to learn how to use FPSC.
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No, they copyrighted the name AND the actual shade. You can copyright a shade. It's pretty difficult and costs a lot, but you sure as hell can do it.

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Tom's right again. I'm sure the amount for the color shade is pretty damn expensive, but for coke it'll be a cent for them! So to end it, yes you can copyright a shade, and yes they did. I saw it in some magizine. (Hey Tom, I've noticed that you and me have been at it since my first post. I've been rude to you, and you've been rude to me. We both have. I think we should juts be alies and forget of each other.)

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Agreed. Now let's get back on topic. I attempted to download you're demo, Walking Dead, last night but it said something about server reset. I will try again now and post some feedback when I have tried it out.

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The shade of red in this image is R:204, G:0, B:0



So you're telling me that I can't use this color in any image or anything that I make in Photoshop? I can make an image that has R:205, G:0, B:0 but I can't use R:204, G:0, B:0?
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Erm...I think even posting something using the name CocaCola is illegal and you can be sued for it.

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hahaha...Tom your making me laugh (litterlay you are!)

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Quote: "So you're telling me that I can't use this color in any image or anything that I make in Photoshop? I can make an image that has R:205, G:0, B:0 but I can't use R:204, G:0, B:0?"


What if someone copyrighted all the shades just to be an a$$?

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Hahaha, I know, The coke company is very finnicky. When I said posting the words CocaCola I did not mean writing it out, I meant like posting an image as Walking Dead did. Also, Walking Dead, I am unsure of the exact shade of it. But if it is R.204 like you suggested, then that's right, you couldn't use R. 204.

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I guess if that's true about the shade of red Coca-Cola uses being copyrighted, then I guess stop-signs are breaking the law.

The shade of red on this stop-sign is R:204, G:0, B:0


Notice the shades of red are the same:
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See my above post about not being sure whether the R for Coca Cola really was 204.

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This is a URL to the Coca-Cola's official logo:
http://www2.coca-cola.com/images/logo.gif

Copy that image and paste it into Photoshop, use the eydropper tool on it and notice the RGB.
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To me, the Stop Sign appears to be 2 or 3 shades lower.

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Copy and paste both of those images into Photoshop and check the RGB then. You will see that they are the same shade.

Also, thousands of websites which show color tables must be breaking the law, because they list RGB 204,0,0
Such as this one: http://www.webdiner.com/annexe/hexcode/hexcode.htm
Scroll down to the bottom of the page, it's 7 rows up from the bottom, in the 2nd column, it shows an image of the color and lists it as RGB 204-0-0, Hex #CC0000.
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What if its not RGB

You can colours with blue, yellow and red y'u know

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Look, all I said was that Coca Cola have copyrighted there own shade of red. Where did you get the coca cola image from? Who says that it is an actualy coca cola image, made by coca cola? I suggest you leave it.

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The image is directly linked from the Coca-Cola Official Website (right-click on the image and click Properties if you don't believe me). You can see the image at the official website here: http://www2.coca-cola.com/
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Ah, but as AE said, what if it isn't RGB? Isn't it nice when we have these fun little debates? lol

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Name a shade which cannot be represented in RGB x,x,x.
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God knows-it was AE who suggested it.

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The largest range of colors visible by humans can be generated by mixing red, green and blue. Are you suggesting that the shade of red which Coke copyrighted is not visible to the human eye?
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I think we should stop on the red of coca cola. And think about the Marlboro.( heh I donno its juts too much coca cola talk for me )

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Gwahahaha! I'm afraid I don't know much about Malboro. Sorry

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Yah who gives a $hit about marlaboro anywas! heh...ANYWHO! About undead, get it out, cause I wanna play some fun!


ENDING WITH THE COKE!(coca cola...not the drug thankyou very much )

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I downloaded the demo and the update.

WOW. F***ING AMAZING! The best FPS Creator game I have ever seen. I really can't wait to see the full version.

Good points

- I crapped myself more than once.
- The layout of the areas are well thought out.
- I really got a feel of the game, the freaky moments and the sudden sounds.
- Nice milk carton.
- The models are very well made.

Bad points

- I thought it needed more physics like movable chairs and stuff.
- I didnt like the fact that the only puzzles were to find keys. Like I said more physics and other puzzles will balance this out, such as moving things out of the way to get to another room.
- When I first started the demo, I tried pushing a wheel chair and got stuck in the handles. I had to reload the game.


Keep up the awesome work dude, and thanks!
Oh and before I forget, is there anyway I could get my hands on the computers in Eve of the dead?

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Quote: "I tried pushing a wheel chair and got stuck in the handles."


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Quote: "- I thought it needed more physics like movable chairs and stuff.
- I didnt like the fact that the only puzzles were to find keys. Like I said more physics and other puzzles will balance this out, such as moving things out of the way to get to another room.
- When I first started the demo, I tried pushing a wheel chair and got stuck in the handles. I had to reload the game."


Hmm... that's a good idea. I am new to FPSC so I haven't played around much with puzzles besides keys to doors. I will change it and make less keys and make more items dynamic. The reason I had originally made most things static was because I wasn't using dynamic lighting and it made all the dynamic items apear black.
BTW- if you get stuck in an item, try crouching and jumping, it worked for me.

If anyone has any suggestions for some good puzzles besides collecting keys, let me know. I will try to implement some things such as pushing bookcases, etc.

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Well I've just about finished level 3, but it is having some major problems, so I might have to totally remake it, and scale things down a bit. The problem I am having is with the framerate. When you walk into certain sections of the map, the fps drops to like 0. I thought maybe it was the tall buildings so I made them shorter, but I still have the same problem. I removed the fire, but still have the same problem. I can't figure it out so I'm probably going to remake level 3.
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I can't figure out how to play this game. Maybe you guys have played a lot of fps games before and know what to do but I havent. I just go to a hospital ward and can open some doors and cant open some. I cant find any keys and there are no weapons or enemies around. Some basic instructions would be cool.

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Quote: "Erm...I think even posting something using the name CocaCola is illegal and you can be sued for it.

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