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Geek Culture / E3 Sony v's Microsoft presentations.

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Oneka
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Posted: 15th May 2006 05:57
Quote: "Saikoro wrote: Perhaps they were trying to make the point that more people have purchased the XBOX 360 over the PS3 and the Wii. I wonder how that happened."


But the 360 is the only "Next Gen" System currently out....


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Posted: 15th May 2006 06:06
But they still made the point

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Quote: "But the 360 is the only "Next Gen" System currently out...."

I was saying that it was irrelevant information that they decided to fill their slot with. Literally anybody who knows anything about videogames within the past year knows that the 360 has sold more than the other two, because the other two aren't out yet. It's like saying Super Bowl XXX sold more tickets than Super Bowl CDXLVI.

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Quote: "Super Bowl XXX"


If it was girl tackle football I bet it would sell more than Super Bowl CDXLVI.

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code spinneker> 360 Launch titles huh? Here's what you said:

Quote: "and honeslty what games launched with 360? Umm..Call of Duty 2 and a couple other games but nothing really. Im still trying to find some games and I think 360 had no lauch titles, I mean it was cool but there was nothing there."


What games did it launch with?

Amped 3
Call of Duty 2
Condemned
Gun
Kameo Elements of Power
Peter’s Jackson’s King Kong
Madden NFL 2006
NBA 2K6
NBA Live 2006
Need For Speed Most Wanted
Perfect Dark Zero
Perfect Dark Zero (Limited Edition)
Project Gotham Racing 3
Quake 4
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2006
Tony Hawk: American Wasteland

Yup... No launch titles to be had.

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But out of all of those I only own:

NBA 2K6, Perfect Dark, Project Gotham Racing, and teh uber Quake. Still great games, perfection for lauch titles, donno about the rest. (They werent glitchy, and the graphics werent worse than the predessesor. Yes. I am talking to YOU, some PS2 games)

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Yea, true... I have CoD2, PDZ, Quake 4 and I had Kameo but that game didn't hold much replay value in my opinion. But CoD2 and Quake 4 are kick-butt games. I play CoD2 more than any other game I own at this point.

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I have played to many games like cod, and my ww2 acceptance is wearing thin. I have fought in dday about 50 times, taken back france 30-40 times, and stopped the war 70 times!

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Posted: 15th May 2006 22:30
Quote: "For someone to be so insecure as to have doubts about their sexuality because of the name of a console blows my mind!"
Too right. I'm 33 now, and most of the people who work with me are 30 somethings, but we pretty much took the afternoon off to making jokes about Wii. Something about software programmers I guess. I always swore I would stop sniggering at stupid names by the time I was 30. Ho hum....

Oh, and I read a few days ago that there was discussions going on (assume Ninty and LucasArts) about an online Jedi game for the Wii with light sabres. Oh yes. I would burn a PS3 just for that. Dunno how they would do an online player vs player light sabre fight though. I mean if they block you then you should be restrained some how. Maybe clever manipulation of your character if you keep going? (fall to one side or sommit). Don't care. If the controller sounded like a light sabre (it has a speaker inside it so your weapon sounds real right next to you), *and* changed the sound to how you are sweeping it around *and* clashing against another sabre, then that would be bed wettingly good......

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Posted: 15th May 2006 22:33 Edited at: 15th May 2006 22:33
Couldn't find the exact same article. But this will do:-
Quote: "May 11, 2006 - During a technical demonstration for an unnamed Xbox 360 and PS3 Star Wars title, LucasArts made note to announce high interest in creating a Wii title in the Star Wars universe, with lightsaber battles in mind.

At the end of the demonstration questions were raised about the possibility of such a game, garnering knowing smiles from the room of LucasArts employees. Comments of "We are looking into it" were heard from members of their staff as ideas for the game were discussed among the people in the room.
The company has made no official announcements about any planned Wii titles -- there are no LucasArts Wii titles at E3 -- but we anxiously await any information from LucasArts on what promises to be a very compelling game concept."


Gibber... C'mon on.... I'm wearing my rubber pants right now.... And apart from that I'm really really excited about the *prospect* of a Wii Jedi game too

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Quote: "Oh, and I read a few days ago that there was discussions going on (assume Ninty and LucasArts) about an online Jedi game for the Wii with light sabres. Oh yes. I would burn a PS3 just for that. Dunno how they would do an online player vs player light sabre fight though. I mean if they block you then you should be restrained some how. Maybe clever manipulation of your character if you keep going? (fall to one side or sommit). Don't care. If the controller sounded like a light sabre (it has a speaker inside it so your weapon sounds real right next to you), *and* changed the sound to how you are sweeping it around *and* clashing against another sabre, then that would be bed wettingly good......"


It'd like all your childhood fantasies come true.

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Aha. And perhaps the addition of a Darth Maul type dual sabre? Gibber2....

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Posted: 16th May 2006 00:21
I realise it couldn't give you the full resistance of a lightsaber clash, but it could rumble. And the Wii could easily do the dual lightsaber weilding.
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Anyway, me gusta light sabers. That hum on the speaker thing would just absolutely make my day. I love Wii.


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Posted: 16th May 2006 05:39
well i havent seen E3 but i would probobly go with Sony. i never really liked nintendo consoles, the gameboys were the only thing i valued in nintendo. but when PSP came out i was just blown away by it. Sinse PSP i wasn't impressed by the DS, In my opinion PSP is more capable at stuff. and PSP has defenatly better graphics. but overall why i like sony is their games. Most of my favorite games like GTA series, driver,FF series, tons of GTA clones which are pretty cool, Mercenaries, a lot of fighting games, twisted metal series basically tons of car games. Yes i am a fan of car games but PS had tons of other great games that i played like some rpg's, mmo's and a lot of fighting games.

Microsoft is next in line. I never had a console because i am mostly a pc user, but luckily a lot of PS games are out for the PC. And because microsofthas the OS to run these games. a lot of the people say that microsoft OS sux and linux is better, well i agree that linux is more stable ,but i am a gamer and i dont want to bother setting up drivers and emulators on linux to play games. And face it, microsoft is used all over the world and the most compatible and universal OS out there. I was quite impressed by the 360 although i was angry at it because i thought it would e the reason people would stop making pc games and i am a very big fan of pc games and i dont want pc gaming to loose its industry in this field and give it up to the evil console empire. yet 360 is an insanely powerful mashine. xbox had a lot of games that i really liked. Halo, halo2, DOA series, morrowind, oblivion,again, tons of car games, Kotor and other rpg's. the thing about microsoft that it has too much sports games. NFL 2003, nfl 2006, whats the difference? EA sports, the series that will never end. but if they are so popular i guess i am ok with it.

when i think of ps 1,2 i think of a huge veriotey of good qualaty games. When i think of xbox i think of a voriety very awsome graphics, pointless shooting and action- my kind of stuff.

when i think of nintendo, i think of.... mario, zelda, and all videogames that are included in the super smash bros and a some games that are taken from other consoles. and not a very big voriety also.

the only game i loved for n64 was "shadows of the empire". in my opinion most of gamecube games suck, and gamecube was defenatly made for ages 3 and up and basically a child's toy.n 64 was ok at its time, but gamecube is just pathetic. I dont know much about the new nintendo revolution (hope it lives up to its name) looking forward to it. the controller is interesting, but a controller is really nothing without good games. i hope revolution will have good games for it to back up the cool controller (gotta admit, that controller would look better on a 360).
Yet again, all the games that are avaliable for all these consoles are not compatible with other consoles, but they are all avaliable for the PC. (or you can make them avaliable for the pc heheh).

so all you console gamers out there, PC RULZ! AND WILL ALWAYS BE MORE 1337 THAN A CONSOLE!

also no mater how hard the new consoles try, a computer will always be more powerful which means better for gaming.

pc's grow faster than the consoles do.

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i have heard about nintendo having the best presentation. i am quite exited but what will happen if they have an awsome console and no good games. It might not happen because people will probobly want to make games for it. But i am looking forward to sony and microsoft more because in the past they were the winners.

i might still buy a nintendo console for my 2 year old brother.

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were there any computer presentations at e3?

the end of this year intel or amd will release a quad core cpu. HA no consoles have that suff.

pc's rule

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Quote: "so all you console gamers out there, PC RULZ! AND WILL ALWAYS BE MORE 1337 THAN A CONSOLE!"

No. PCs require setting up, consoles can just be plugged in and played. Consoles are specially designed for games, and can run them a hell of a lot faster than the equivalent PC.

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Wow, I amazed you had that much to say on this, yet you haven't even seen any of e3...

Nintendo's actually though up something that the pc can't do, which is why it's the first consol I'm going to buy. And reading your post that seems to be the reason you haven't bought a consol either... And your views of Nintendo don't seem to have any basis in reality what so ever...

And really, come on. This is an online forum. EVERYONE HERE IS ONE A COMPUTER. So while not all have computers powerful enough to play the latest games, I think it's safe to say MOST of us here are pc gamers. Sorry, but your essay really has no point except that you like pc's which you could have said in one sentence.

Please make better arguments if you're going to post at all, it's just too easy to pull the legs right out from under your argument. Heck, it doesn't have any legs to even pull out!! You pulled them out yourself.

Edit: And not having any good games?!?!? They had many of the best games at e3 for the Wii, and 26 games for it all togeather (that's mostly for lauch day, as well)!!! Sorry, but that whole thing you wrote is just laughable.

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Quote: "were there any computer presentations at e3?"
Ahhhh!!! SPORE SPORE SPORE SPORE!!!!!! And if Spore doesn't excite you, then how dare you call yourself a pc gamer. Look at any site that covered e3. They have a pc section.

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well ifont have anything against nintendo consoles, in fact gamecube is the only thing pissing me off. Dreamcast was the first cosole i believe to enter the last era (the ps2 xbox gamecube eara) i have it, it has good graphics, and has lots of potential but unfortunately it didnt have much games for it and it didnt sell well.

also, i am sure that someone will come up with a nintendo like controller for the PC.

and in the long run pc will be able to play games on a MUCH higher quality than it originally had. a few years ago morrowind ran perfectly on xbox and everyone had performance trouble with the pc. now i play this game with a few mods that modify the game to a MUCH higer quality, High texture resolutions, and the view distance 10 times higher than in original game and still plays it flawlessly. you wouldn't get such an experience with an xbox. in fact xbox will be fried trying to prosess it in that state. i dont know how powerful ps3 is but there are already pcs that are better than the consoles and can probobly run it on a higher level than the consoles but because they are computers and can do much more things besides gaming , means they are more expensive. Because the can do more id rather spend $2000 on a kickass dual quad core 4 ghz monster, than 500 on a 360.

on the long run PS3 might win because graphics are the style now and people want good graphics (i prefer decent graphics and good gameplay) and ps3 will last longer. and it will be capable of more than the other consoles. i just hope they will have good games like they did before. and sinse ps3 has usb, logitech or even sony itself will try to make something like the willimote if they feel they need to.

but i guess sony looks like its loosing its toch.

oh sh** i am a dumbass, dreamcast is a sega product not nintedo.

never mind nintendo pretty much sucked in the past....

i really like their gameboys though

i miss the 90's all the good computer games were made back then. pc's had better grapix too.

go PC!

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oh btw. yes i havent seen e3, and i know i am missing out on a lot of stuff, but my opinions are expressed only by what i know and my opinions about past game consoles ps2, xbox, gamecube

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Quote: "i am quite exited but what will happen if they have an awsome console and no good games."

Nintendo already had several fantastic looking games: Mario Galaxy (frankly the next Mario 64), Excite Truck, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and the Wii version of Zelda Twilight Princess.

Quote: "oh sh** i am a dumbass, dreamcast is a sega product not nintedo.

never mind nintendo pretty much sucked in the past...."

You're forgetting NES, SNES, and N64. Nintendo was a major force in revitalizing gaming in the late 80's with the NES. SNES was the prime system in its time, its main competitor being Sega, and it was the king of RPGs and platformers and all things good and 2d. N64 had Goldeneye, Donkey Kong 64, Zelda OoT, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Perfect Dark, and many others.

Quote: "oh btw. yes i havent seen e3, and i know i am missing out on a lot of stuff, but my opinions are expressed only by what i know and my opinions about past game consoles ps2, xbox, gamecube"

Things tend to change in passing generations.


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most of the games for the eye toy make u wave your hands all over the place, wouldn't it be easier if you were just pointing a remote control?

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The only thing an eyetoy was good for IMO was a webcam and a recorder. Even then it was just decent.

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I'm sorry pagan, that was just so arrogant what you posted that I started laughing.

Ps3 will most likely die quickly because it will come out last, will cost as much as a 360 and Wii combined, and by far seems to take the longest to develop for and is HUGE. Nintendo will have good graphics, just nothing that will compare to the 360 or ps3 in a few years. That sort of controller would be rather pointless on a pc, which has a mouse with is the next be thing and in some cases the best. If they make one for the pc anytime soon, I'll be really confused, as it offers little to pc gamers who generally play more fps and strategy games, which a mouse is perfect for. I'm a pc gamer, which is why I care less about consol graphics. I can't believe you think Nintendo has sucked in the past, especially when they've only made one consol that didn’t dominate the market... everything you've said is pointless and stupid... Sorry, but everything you say is so wrong it's funny.
Come on, post another comment like that. I dare you.

Edit, I assume you're not very old if you can't remember the n64... That was when people said they were going home to play Nintendo, not video games or playstation or sega, although the playstaion did exist.

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the point is not everyone likes nintendo themed games like mario and zelda. i am ok with zelda but mario i just cant stand. the problem with nintendo is most of their games are based on mario, donkey kong, and nintendo charecters. in my opinion NES, SNES had more veriotey of games than they have now.

and from what i heard about the new nintendo games, THEY ARE ALL MARIO AND STUFF. I am sure there are a lot of people who like them, but not everyone does. personally i hate mario and ssbros and dkkong and all that nintendo stuff. but unfourtanetly for me, these are MOST of the games in the nintendo game industry sinse n64. In fact i think n64 had more games and whas nore popular.

so because of the high consentration of nintendo thiemed games, that greatly limits their audience. if i had a choice, id probobly get a 360 or a ps3 because they will likely have more games than the new nintendo.

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Quote: "the point is not everyone likes nintendo themed games like mario and zelda. i am ok with zelda but mario i just cant stand. the problem with nintendo is most of their games are based on mario, donkey kong, and nintendo charecters. in my opinion NES, SNES had more veriotey of games than they have now.

and from what i heard about the new nintendo games, THEY ARE ALL MARIO AND STUFF. I am sure there are a lot of people who like them, but not everyone does. personally i hate mario and ssbros and dkkong and all that nintendo stuff. but unfourtanetly for me, these are MOST of the games in the nintendo game industry sinse n64. In fact i think n64 had more games and whas nore popular.

so because of the high consentration of nintendo thiemed games, that greatly limits their audience. if i had a choice, id probobly get a 360 or a ps3 because they will likely have more games than the new nintendo."


So far there's... 1 mario game. 1 zelda game. And smash bros. Hardly an infestation.

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ok lets put it that way, i never owned a console, but i played console games a lot with my friends. i played a lot of games on the pc that were originally released for consoles. all my friends who had nintendo consoles, owned mostly mario games.

i am NOT buying a nintendo if mario,zelda and curby will be pretty much most of its games

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I read the first sentence and though you actually had a point, but then I read the rest, and you didn't.
Nintendo just markets the big franchises the most. They have tons and tons of other games, even for the game cube. You just don't seem to be interested in finding out. And for the Wii, not only are 3rd party developers making mature games, but Nintendo it to. They have a hammer/ robot game that looks like it was made for a Microsoft consol, and a survival game in a city that's being destroyed- looked like a very mature game. And then you forgot the Metriod prime games, which is a pretty serious fps series, and many more. The reason Nintendo markets the kiddie like ones is because they sell the most. It's no secret, the Mario and Zelda franchises are basically the biggest names in the industry. Even people who've never played a video game in their life know who they are.

Why don't you go to gamespot.com or ign.com or one of those, and actually take a look at the Nintendo games? You might be surprised. Their audience is limited by people like you, who are convinced that Nintendo sells nothing but kiddie games, when that's simply not true, although they do sell a lot of them. I'm not trying to be a Nintendo fanboy, heck; I've never owned any Nintendo products up till now except their handhelds. But if you look at the industry at the moment, Nintendo by far is looking the best for the future, and if you like the older games before they had the gameube, you do know the Wii will be able to wirelessly download all the best games from the nes, super nes, N64, and sega genesis, right?

AND IF YOU LOOKED AT THE F***ING LINEUP FOR THE NEW CONSOL< YOU MIGHT KNOW THAT THERE ARE TONS OF GAMES FOR IT ALREADY THAT AREN'T MARIO ZELDA AND KIRBY!!!!!!!!

Sorry, but ur a n00b.

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And you spelt "curby" wrong.

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mario party, mario party2, mario sunshine, mario64, mario cart mario tennis,super samash bros, super smash mlee, when i go to the video store and look at the shelf for nintendo i see mostly mario, zelda, curby and stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mario_games#Year_2004

hell mario sets the VCR super adventure.

i dont know how will it be in the future but right now id rather get a ps2 or xbox.

if ps3 will be a failure ill get a 360

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good god, you're hopeless.

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Kirby, Kirby, KIRBY! NOT "CURBY"!

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Quote: "mario party, mario party2, mario sunshine, mario64, mario cart mario tennis,super samash bros, super smash mlee, when i go to the video store and look at the shelf for nintendo i see mostly mario, zelda, curby and stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mario_games#Year_2004

hell mario sets the VCR super adventure."


Sorry, I mistook your first post. My point was that currently for the Wii there's only 1 mario game and 1 zelda game. And who cares which character is in there? The last thing I think about when I'm about to hit an ace in Mario Tennis is "this game would be so much better with a different star character".

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Photo of a magnificient creator of worlds that capture the imagination. Oh, and Speilberg.

Still, you've got to be thinking that lightsabers are going to be going through his mind now. I'd want a purple one.
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Hey, is it just me, or has this tiny thing gotten SMALLER!?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a0/Nintendo_Wii_4.jpg

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No way, double sided Maul type saber for sure. That's where its at. In that case, I hope that the Wii comes in a wireless version

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Posted: 17th May 2006 02:59
Hm from what i am hearing, the wii actually looks good. After you mentioned the downloads,for nes and n64, it looks even better for long time nintendo fans. i dont have anything against the console itself. In the last generation i felt like xbox and ps2 had more games. And in my opinion most of the games that i thought were really cool were in the xbox and ps2. i felt like gamecube had less games. and most of the games that i liked in the GC were already out for ps2 and xbox. infact there were very few of thouse for the GC. right now i only recall need for speed game (dont remember the exact name).
in my opinion gc failed.

i am still putting my bet on the 360. but if the wii is cheaper and has good games, then just might buy it.
btw how much is the wii?

i think that sinse nintendo and microsoft teamed up, they will probobly share a lot of games. and sinse sony is selling final fantacy (squarenix?) to microsoft, then there might be more than 13 final fantasies coming out. i think the problem with nintendo in the past is they did not buy enough licenses from other companies. if they did and for example the all mighty and popular gta was avaliable for GC, it would have been more sucsessful.

on the other hand (i am not sure about this) if xbox and sony are competitors now, sony might not grant licenses for microsoft so xbox 360 wont have any upcoming gta games.

man i can only amagine it, playing super smash bros on a 360 lol.
prbobly wont happen.

nintendo should try to aquire more licenses from other companies so they could publish more games which will greatly increase their game selection.

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Posted: 17th May 2006 03:04
Holy crap where do you get your information from?

Quote: "i think that sinse nintendo and microsoft teamed up, they will probobly share a lot of games."


They did *not* team up. Microsoft simply said that there's no reason to buy a PS3 when people can buy a 360 and a Wii. That was *it*.

Quote: "and sinse sony is selling final fantacy (squarenix?) to microsoft"


*double take* Sony does not own Square Enix, buddy. The proof is in the pudding--- there is a Final Fantasy game on the NGC.

Quote: "sony might not grant licenses for microsoft so xbox 360 wont have any upcoming gta games."


Sony, MS, and Nintendo don't grant licenses for third party games, dude. Sony can pay Rockstar gobs of cash to stay on the Sony platform, but it is not up to Sony whether Rockstar goes over to Xbox 360 after the contract expires. Same as it's not up to Microsoft whether EA releases games for the PS3.

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Posted: 17th May 2006 03:34
PAGAN, you missed out on a ton for the Gamecube. It didn't have as many games as Xbox or PS2, but looking online and at the rental store for a selection, most of the Xbox and PS2 games look like trash except for the few good ones and some okay ones (which brings the number of semi-desirable games in each's library approximately equal to what's in GC's library), I'm not biased either, I own the three systems and was honestly looking for some good games. Nintendo's games are just always quality. Some mediocre ones may get repetitive or whatever, but they're all produced and refined to a high quality.

Good GC games off the top of my head:
Eternal Darkness
Resident Evil 4 (PS2 version may have bonus features, but frame rate and texture resolutions are lower) + remakes
Beyond Good and Evil
Metroid Prime series
Mario Sunshine
Zelda Wind Waker
Killer 7
Smash Bros. Melee
Pikmin series
Super Monkey Ball series
Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes (very cool cutscenes)
F-Zero GX
Rogue Squadron 2
Viewtiful Joe


What is irking many people here is that you are full of assumptions and it's evident that you don't bother to research before making your claims. People have in fact told you this repeated, so they might begin to suspect that you're just ignoring people who point out your fallacies.


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Posted: 17th May 2006 03:40
at least it was a hint that MS is more in favor of the wii than the ps3.

so i guess now that all game companies will go over to the wii and xbox?


If the popular game comanies will stay with the sony and microsoft, and wont go to the wii, despite of wii's awsome consoles, all the popular games will be for sony and MS. what makes people think that the companies will suddenly turn over to the wii?

if wii will be a repeat of the gamecube , it will die.

i am sorry if i sound like a dumbass but still havent looked at all the presentations, the downloads are slow and the streaming is slow.

but gamecube had very pour selections of games. i never liked nintendo games much. i loved the playstation and xbox games, they had a lot more games and which i liked more than any nintendo game i have ever played. all of my friends have either an xbox or a ps2. (if they ever had a gamecube i didnt know it utill they showed it to me lying dusty in the corner untoched for years. pretty much all of my friends either hate gamecube or dont like it. The only reason some of them have a GC is for SSBM which is i guess one nintndo game that has mario in it and is quite fun.

so why do you think all the popular game comanies mostly stayed with microsoft and sony?

and why should they abandon sony and microsoft and go to wii?

the nintendo presentation is downloading now, maybe ill change my mind after i see it but. a flashy presentation doesent mean anything.

example. TES oblivion was a big hype among the TES fans (i am a hardcore fan of the elder scrolls). they blew away the fans with flashy graphics and awsome articles and reviews. I was very exited for the game. in the end half of the people ended up either hating it or not liking it as much as the previous game morrowind. (take a look at the tes forums). i liked it at first but got bored of it after a month (i havent been bored of morrowind for 2 years). so i went back to morrowind.

maybe this is a bad example but that is what might happen to nintendo.

i bet all this makes me sound like a complete moroan huh?

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Posted: 17th May 2006 03:44
metal gear is for gamecube?

i like a few of thouse but there are TONS more games that i really liked for the ps2 and xbox that i dont think came out for GC

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Just the fact you have done little to no research on the topic. Try debating with a 4 year old about physics algorithms and you'll see what we mean.

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Posted: 17th May 2006 03:53 Edited at: 17th May 2006 03:57
ok i am watching the sony presentation now so far i am blown away by the graphics. More than that all the games that i have seen so far, not a single one of them that i dont want to play.

and about me doing research? i am expepressing my own opinions which may differ from other peoples opinions. My research is (are) video game stores, computer games that originally came out on the consoles, opinions of my friends and the console games that i played.

thats pretty much it.

oh btw tony haws underground was a pretty good game for the GC that i liked.

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Posted: 17th May 2006 03:53 Edited at: 17th May 2006 03:54
You're blown away be the SONY conferance?!? That put me to sleep. By far the worst of the three. Everyone agrees on that.
Quote: "i bet all this makes me sound like a complete moroan huh?"

Sorry, but kinda. Actualy, quite a bit.

Quote: "Hey, is it just me, or has this tiny thing gotten SMALLER!?"

Actualy yes. The one the originaly revealed was larger than the final product they said.

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yeah it was boaring but i am talking about the games that they showed not the actual presentation i was amazed by the GAMES. yes i do agree that the presentation is crap. looks like they didnt try too hard because they think they dont need to because they think they are so popular.

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NO, they just didn't try. You'll see what I mean when you watch the other presentations. Kaz Hari is a terrible speaker. The games looked good, but it was actualy less than what they'd been promissing for so long. Kind of a let down, but not a surprise.

So stop backing up sony until you've seen all 3, and don't post again unil you've watched all of them either.

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Quote: "Quote: "i bet all this makes me sound like a complete moroan huh?"
Sorry, but kinda. Actualy, quite a bit."


Especially considering the "moroan."


Quote: "f wii will be a repeat of the gamecube , it will die."

Except...Nintendo was the only company to turn a profit last generation. Hmmmm

Quote: "all of my friends have either an xbox or a ps2. (if they ever had a gamecube i didnt know it utill they showed it to me lying dusty in the corner untoched for years. pretty much all of my friends either hate gamecube or dont like it."

It's not like they influenced you or anything. I'll bet they're all just victims of being misinformed as thou art.

Quote: "so why do you think all the popular game comanies mostly stayed with microsoft and sony?"

Um, what about Squaresoft and Capcom (to name a couple)?

Quote: "and why should they abandon sony and microsoft and go to wii?"

Because Sony and Microsoft are not offering anything new outside of the fancy graphics + online MySpace-ish features. Sony's rip off(yes the technology was not ripped off but they are reacting to good impressions of the Wiimote) controller does not count for anything.

Quote: "the nintendo presentation is downloading now, maybe ill change my mind after i see it but. a flashy presentation doesent mean anything."

That's what we're trying to tell you. Nintendo's isn't flashy. They just decide to lay off the sales figures and show off the games.

Quote: "TES oblivion was a big hype among the TES fans (i am a hardcore fan of the elder scrolls). they blew away the fans with flashy graphics and awsome articles and reviews. I was very exited for the game. in the end half of the people ended up either hating it or not liking it as much as the previous game morrowind. (take a look at the tes forums). i liked it at first but got bored of it after a month (i havent been bored of morrowind for 2 years). so i went back to morrowind."

Which is exactly why Oblivion sold more than Morrowind. Very few people outside of the TES hardcore got into Morrowind. Oblivion was much more accessible. I have both, but enjoy Oblivion oodles more.


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Posted: 17th May 2006 04:10
"eight days" was AWSOME! hell, gta style games have always been a playstation thing.

for for that kind of game i am willing to buy a ps3.

i doubt PS3 will die. it has the best graphics so far. if anything that will hurt the ps3 is its high price.

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Quote: "hell, gta style games have always been a playstation thing. "

I have GTA: San Andreas for XBox.

If you're willing to dish out $700 for more of the same, more power to you. Have fun with your one game for our 9.

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