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Geek Culture / [LOCKED] Steve Irwin... Crocodile Hunter... Deceased...

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Kentaree
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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 19:53
Touche. Keep your son away from the sea for a while

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 20:09
It's a shame what happened, but I bet if he knew he was going to die he would be happy knowing it would be doing something he loves over a random car crash or the like.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 21:09
Quote: "Lets throw Zaibatsu into a tank of stingrays"


Go ahead and try it! I bit someone 12 years ago becuase they poked their finger in my face.


Quote: "wouldn't you feel threatened if a pair of smelly feet"


Hey! I bathed last month thank you very much!

Quote: "No matter what you think of him personally, you cannot deny that he did a huge amount for conservation and for the tourist industry of Australia. His personality was huge and he obviously loved what he did very much. If he hadn't been so brash and done the crazy things he did then you would never have heard about him or his great work."


Thats all true, I just never liked him very much.

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Steve J
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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 21:13
If you care not where you are going, or how you act, then why don't you act kind?

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 22:35 Edited at: 4th Sep 2006 22:35
Quote: "If you care not where you are going, or how you act, then why don't you act kind?"


I generally do act kind, nut that guy was just obnoxious. he was almost as obnoxious as that little paper clip that pops up in word! By god I hate the office assistant! always popping up right over what your typing so you cant see it! coming back when you least expect it after telling him to go away!

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Steve J
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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 22:39
I haven't seen you act very kind. In fact, all I have seen you do is act like a pain in the arse.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 22:42
I never expected his death to be taken this greatly. MSN is flooded with turtle icons.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 23:08
@Zaibatsu: I think you do seem like quite an angry person, actually. I've only seen your comments here, and in the Bully thread, and you don't come across as a very chilled out sort of forum-goer. I mean, fair goes to you if you found him annoying, but I don't know what you hoped to achieve by basically taking the time to type a post that in not so many words, said "Good riddance - about time too." Surely if you found him a waste of your time, you'd not spend time to (quite predictably) post something that would only rile those who were generally being quite sorry to see him go. *shrugs* Whatever floats your canoe.

Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 23:10
@ zaibatsu

you know if you dont like the guy theres 998 other channels on the tv, or even the off button.

and on another note, just because a guy has a dangerous job, doesnt mean they deserve to die. sure, maybe a little less sympathy from those who said "i told you so", but i dont see why he should get a less respectful arbituary. He enterained and informed for a living, regardless of the topic. even moreso, think of all the lives he's probably saved from teaching people how dangerous even the most harmless animals are, not only from his tv shows but also from his ironic death.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 23:27
He was the real Crocodile Dundee.

I respected greatly what he did and the thing to remember is we didn't really know him, yet we respected him from the little we saw or knew. To meet him and know him he must have been a truly brilliant person.

"Crikey! Thats a really dangerous snake, it can spit venom and kill from 15 feet....Lets go pick it up!"

Thats Steve Irwin for me,

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 23:34
Personally, I didn't find him annoying. I found his enthsiasm infectious and very entertaining. Especially in an industry dominated by boring old farts commentating monotonously behind the camera.


Quote: "I didn't expect you to understand ambition and drive like this Zaibatsu, being 11 and all..."


Quote: "Go ahead and try it! I bit someone 12 years ago becuase they poked their finger in my face. "


Oh my.

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Steve J
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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 23:36
rofl, Zaibatsu, your mom liked to have lots of fun, even when she was pregnant.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 23:38
Quote: "rofl, Zaibatsu, your mom liked to have lots of fun, even when she was pregnant."


All that can be said in response to that is lol

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PowerSoft
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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 23:43
Drop it yea guys?

Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 23:46
Quote: ""Crikey! Thats a really dangerous snake, it can spit venom and kill from 15 feet....Lets go pick it up!""

That does pretty much sum him up...

Althought I did lose a little respect when he took his kids into the den with croc's... Sure he felt in control - but thats a HUGE risk to take with someone else's life.

But then again - if you're gonna live once, would you rather do an adrenaline rushing job or sit in a cubicle all day? Everyone is different!

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 23:51
It is a point but ultimately he felt comfortable with it and he's not likely to hurt his own child. That being said it was perhaps this security and safety he thought he felt that...
anyway.

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Posted: 4th Sep 2006 23:59
Quote: "But then again - if you're gonna live once, would you rather do an adrenaline rushing job or sit in a cubicle all day?"


He liked to think out side of the box. I personally wont want to sit in a cubicle all day....

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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 00:02
I head about this last night. It's very strange to think he is gone. Like TinkerGirl and someone else said. Its almost like he was invincible in most people's mind. Anyhow, he will be missed...

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Seppuku Arts
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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 00:49
Quote: "But then again - if you're gonna live once, would you rather do an adrenaline rushing job or sit in a cubicle all day? Everyone is different!"


Thats it, if you die at least die happy, he was very happy with what he did, I'd rather die once living my dream, rather then sitting at a dead job, if I get shot dead in Africa doing something for Amnesty International, as long as I had done enough to make me happy, that would do. The only people that suffer are those who loved him. Zaibatsu not being one

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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 01:02 Edited at: 5th Sep 2006 01:11
SpyDaniel
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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 01:41
The second link looked as if some one had dubbed it, his lips moved at different times.
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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 02:00
My Nephew went to Assieland for a holiday when he was six, and they confesated loads of stuff he had bought in Bali (or somewhere) when he entered. (Palm tree hats and the like)

He was really upset about it, and as kids do, when he was at Irwins croc place, complained to everyone. Steve actualy took the time to explain to a six year old why it was important not to let things like that into the country.

He was a sound bloke

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Michael S
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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 06:07
Quote: "the poison has no cure and affects the nervous system."

actually hot water is the closet to a cure for it. it realy helps the wound

Sid Sinister
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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 06:22
At least he died doing what he loved doing. Thats the way to go isn't it?
SpyDaniel
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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 06:37
Every one is repeating the same statement, its getting quite silly.

The people who liked him are sad, but there is nothing we can do. I am sure in a few weeks there will be another wacky guy doing some thing just as mad.
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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 06:39
His wife and kids dont even know hes dead yet. Their out hiking somewere

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Michael S
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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 07:36 Edited at: 5th Sep 2006 07:37
Yes they do. they where called and flown out to the reef where he is currently.

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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 08:57
Steven Irwin was the coolest. I forget what movie it was, but I remember he had a cameo and made a joke about getting his arm bit off. Not only was he a great man, contributed to conservation and Australian tourism, but he did it with a flair so that he will be forever remembered in the minds of all and children who grow up in the next generation will be told of this mythic man and want to grow up to be just like him and will make up jokes similar to the Chuck Norris thing. Not right now of course, that would be obnoxious. But the point is, he was a good man and he was plain awesome.


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Quote: " I forget what movie it was, but I remember he had a cameo and made a joke about getting his arm getting bitten off"

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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 10:19
Quote: "The world has lost a great wildlife icon, a passionate conservationist and one of the proudest dads on the planet"


Hmmmm, forgetting all the negative press he had recently then, with the jacko feed-baby-to-croc incident, then bothering the penguins, really his career was on the downturn anyway, let's be honest.

He was a great laugh though, and will be missed.


R.I.P. you crazy bastard.

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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 11:44
Of course he wasn't afraid. If he was afraid, he'd never take a 2yr old into a crocodile cage.

Quote: "Well, we don't know the circumstances. It could well have felt threatened merely by his presence."

Doubt it. I usually see these crazy australians pulling and poking at the animals to get better shots of them. He probably poked it so it'd turn around or something and instead it poked back.

Guy was crazy, but wasn't stupid. He knew the risks, just like the Grizzly man who got eaten while living in the wild with his "friends(bears)".

People are warned to stay away from wild animals for a good reason. Yea its a shame it happened, but it was going to happen sooner or later. Although, I was expecting the croc like everyone else.

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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 13:07 Edited at: 5th Sep 2006 13:07
Crocs aren't dangerous. If one gets you by the arm, kick it in the nuts. Works everytime. Actually, that reminds me of this Norwegian dude I know, he once told me when he was doing national service they had some basic self defense training incase they encounter a grizzly bear. Last line of defense is to punch it on the nose. hahaha. Imagine, 10 foot grizzly, about to pound into you weighing a ton at about 15 miles an hour, and all you have to do is smack him in the nose. Easy peasy.


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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 14:02
Quote: "In short - as much as I can appreciate the work he did, he shouldn't have antagonised the poor creature either."


Apparently the footage caught (they were filming a documentary at the time) shows he didn't do anything to provoke it, it was just a freak of nature.


Quote: "But his kids are still babies and wont be harmed by his death"


Babies? They're 8 and 3 years old, try and rationalise death to kids that young. They'll understand it, but won't be able to cope with it.


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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 15:09
update:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/04/irwin.death/index.html?section=cnn_topstories

in brief, a state funeral's been offered, and theres a charity being set up in his name to help wildlife conservation.

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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 16:31
he owns thousands of acres of wildlife preserves over the world as well.
Perhaps his wife will pour some of his life insurance to gain more.

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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 18:34
Quote: "Perhaps his wife will pour some of his life insurance to gain more."


haha! Steve Irwin!! hahaha. With life insurance!!!!! Classic joke. Nice one.




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@ Steve Irwin having accidental death at work insurance.

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SpyDaniel
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Quote: "Babies? They're 8 and 3 years old, try and rationalise death to kids that young. They'll understand it, but won't be able to cope with it."


Sorry, the last time I saw his kids on TV, was when I saw two babies. I dont know why that is, either it was from his film or some thing my mind is making up.
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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 23:12
Quote: "Sorry, the last time I saw his kids on TV, was when I saw two babies. I dont know why that is, either it was from his film or some thing my mind is making up. "


I was talking to someone who said his oldest is 4 years old. Unless you and she have minds that prefer to decieve you...Like mine, mine tells me lies all the time, which is why I never listen. It called me a grotesqye fat b**tard once, so I put a nitting needle through it...

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Posted: 5th Sep 2006 23:59
Nah, she's 8. He was apparently filming footage for her own TV show.

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It says he pulled out the barb, but would he have lived if he kept it in? as in to keep the blood from leaking into his body?

Because I heard news that a guy dropped a nail gun on the floor and it fired a nail into his chest, right ontop of his heart. He couldnt pull it out, and it said if he had done, he would have died instantlt, just like steve died when he pulled it out.
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Posted: 6th Sep 2006 00:45
The barbs have toxins in them which are more than powerful enough to kill someone if it punctures a hole in their heart. He would have died anyway.


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Perhaps the toxins would have got him if right in the heart, but even if he had kept it in I seriously doubt he would have survived. I mean you are talking about a spike straight into (and through probably) you heart in the middle of australia somewhere. Don't like your odds on that one, toxin or no toxin.

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Posted: 6th Sep 2006 01:39
Quote: "Thats it, if you die at least die happy,"

You think Steve Irwin was happy when a barb whent right into his chest jk, i get what you mean

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Quote: "It says he pulled out the barb, but would he have lived if he kept it in? as in to keep the blood from leaking into his body?
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realy the blood doesnt go into the body. There is a sac around the heart and when the eart is punctured the blood goes into the sac and prevents the heart from contracting.

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If I put a pigs heart into a Sack, and then stab the heart, havn't I just put a hole in the sack as well?

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Posted: 6th Sep 2006 03:41
I've seen it many times - like Wallenda falling to his death from his high wire act - Roy Horn being mauled by his own stage tiger. People create a market for entertainers to take risks that were once taken only for true survival. People create the market for demolition derbies, boxing matches (and even rougher stuff lately), high speed car racing, etc. I would have been content to watch his enthusiasm, listen to his message on conservation, etc., without having to put him through the obligation of risk from physical proximity to dangerous animals. The other problem that I have with that aspect of his activity is that by surviving so many dangerous situations with so much media exposure it can lead some young folk to perceive these situations as less dangerous than they really are. Hopefully an instructive point in his death may come across, namely that yes - you can get killed by getting too close.
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Posted: 6th Sep 2006 03:43
He loved to be in there with the crocs thats what he lived for was to be with the animals.

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Posted: 6th Sep 2006 04:33
That would be why them lifeguards always tell you to shuffle your feet during stingray season . Scare them away I guess.

But, dang, that must have been a BIG stingray to have a barb 12 inches long!!!

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