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Geek Culture / Bot Infestation (and a TGC webring)

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Tom J
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Posted: 19th Dec 2006 16:33
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http://ninjasoftgames.us.tt has been added to the webring...

I'm probably going to start promoting the site tomorrow (most likely by posting the webring on several other sites - like download sites and gaming sites - and making search engines include it in their database! )

After all what's the point of having a super cool webring that is as much like a ghost town as the individual sites on their own?

If anybody wants to help then feel free to.
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Posted: 19th Dec 2006 19:51 Edited at: 19th Dec 2006 19:52
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Your website does not work for me! It just comes up with a completely blank white screen

Also, could somebody test my website, because some people are saying that it's not working properly

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Posted: 19th Dec 2006 20:08
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Your site works fine for me.
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Posted: 21st Dec 2006 14:05
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Someone could ask TGC if they'd put a link to the tgc webring under the community dropdown menu.

eg. Community --> Webring

After all, all of our sites have a link to here


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@ Gaming Colosseum:

Tomorrow I might work on my site, http://darkgamestudio.net

I will add the ring if you say I can, when I finish it.

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Posted: 23rd Dec 2006 15:39 Edited at: 27th Dec 2006 17:05
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@ Steve J: You can join the ring if you wish to I'll add your site to the webring when you have finished work on it

Edit: Also, the site is on google! Type in dbwebring on google and it is the first site on the list
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Posted: 24th Dec 2006 04:35
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Just incase anyone is interested, I've done a big update of my site

http://jt0.org



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Posted: 24th Dec 2006 04:51
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Updates... ack, I need to do some updates as well. The holidays have kept me super-busy and they've laid waste to my plans to "decorate" MINet for the holidays... D'oh!

Should I put the webring icon on the main page? Do you guys care if it only goes on the links page? I was thinking about putting it on the index page, but then there's the whole placement issue... I can't figure out where to put it.


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Lol, my website is all on my index page, so anything I put on the index.php manually, will be there on every page.

I need to update my website too, along with a total recode of my form (my own coded one, not the one on my website listed right now).

@Jess T: I love the layout and color scheme of your site. Looks good.

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Posted: 24th Dec 2006 08:47 Edited at: 24th Dec 2006 08:52
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Yeah, I managed to score a free day because the family turned up (So I hid in cyberspace).

If you want to put the link on every page, drop it under the 'Cheney Hunter' link on the left.

Also, just a tip - Change the font on your site to Sans (Helvetica, Tahoma, Sans, Arial, etc) since Sans font is easier to read on a computer screen, and Normal fonts are easier to read in print.

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I originally did the design for my DS Dominos site, and loved it so much that I updated a bit of the CMS, changed the graphics, and used it on my main site!
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I'll fix that tonight or tomorrow, thanks for the tip! I'm still getting a very basic grip on this web design stuff and need all of the help I can get!

I'm thinking I might put the webring icon above Cheney Hunter, then all of our games below it. I dunno, after we get these two games done (IF I get them done ) then I'll play around with the format and see which looks better.

On a side note, a few people have e-mailed me asking for beta positions on Eternal Equinox, and when I asked them how they'd found my website, they said they visited it from the TGC webring! So already, we're getting added hits from it being in existence. Definitely the best idea I've had in a very, very long time


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Posted: 28th Dec 2006 02:37 Edited at: 28th Dec 2006 02:43
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Sweet, now if I could get some hits

Edit: I actually have more hits than I realized.

Top 30 of 67 Total Countries

# Hits Files KBytes Country


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Posted: 28th Dec 2006 02:56
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Mine tells me how many hits I've had total, how many are unique, and how many are repeat-visiters and how often those people return. There's the "advanced information" thing but I don't know what any of it means, lol.


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I've got to admit, I've gotten quite a boost in hits aswell

I was looking over my Google Analytics, and thought "Hmm, I've had a few hits today", clicked to show the entirety of 2006, and December out-ranks them by a ridiculously large amount!

Hurray for us!

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Posted: 28th Dec 2006 21:27
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Hmmmm... I need to put a counter on my site, then I can find out how many people visit it, right now I'm clueless of how many people have seen my site (which is not very sensible if the webring is supposed to boost traffic)
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I had about 70 "repeat" hits per week prior to the webring, and now it's 82 per week. Total, I was getting an average of 315 hits (if I'm reading this right anyway) each week, and this week it's up to 398 and the week isn't done yet Not too shabby with only one crappy game out hehe. Now if I could just find the time to do an update. Then again, I'm on TGC all the dang time, go figure lol.


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The best way for advertising I found, is to post in a thread that you know is going to get locked. I just found out that in DECEMBER (this month) I got 476 views from : http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=86238&b=2

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@ Matt:

Just don't, don't ever use PHPBB for anything at all! Simple Machines is by far a higher quality piece of software. It's like comparing XP to Windows 98.

If you do get into PHP coding you'll appreciate what I mean by what I said above... SMF is excellent for integrating a forum into your PHP based website, and it comes with a seamless login system and security out-of-the-box.

Btw a tip for your website, if you're going to use white text on a black background, soften the text to a cream/grey colour or add some nice CSS line spacing. Pure white on black is a pain to read on super bright LCDs and older CRTs.

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Posted: 29th Dec 2006 23:28 Edited at: 29th Dec 2006 23:32
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About the webring...

If you want somewhere to host the webring with a .com domain so it's more professional I'm willing to host it on my server free of charge which is coming online within the next week or so. I'm also willing to automate it some-what with PHP so new links can be added more easily. Freewebs is a nasty place.

As a side note I'm not interested in taking over this, I just want to pull together all the great and useful game dev websites on the web under one name...


Coders Turf:

I'm the guy who is developing the Coders Turf Project (About Coders Turf) so I'm very interested in any web-based projects like this.

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Posted: 30th Dec 2006 07:12 Edited at: 30th Dec 2006 07:15
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Alrighty,

I've gone ahead and done a couple of things for us...

First, I've set-up a gmail email account:
tgcwebring@gmail.com

Secondly, I've registered a domain name:
www.tgcwebring.info
(Cost me a grand-total of $2.45)

The domain needs a home, so if you're willing Josh, I'll take you up on that offer of free hosting

I hope I haven't jumped the gun here or anything, but I agree with Josh that we need a proper domain without any advertising, and a proper back-end

Jess.

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I forgot to add:
If anyone wants the login info for either the email or the Domain, email me at jessticluar @t gmail dot com
Please understand, though, that I wont just give it out to anyone!
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@ Jess:

I've just been in contact with my server guy and it seems my server won't be ready for 14 days from today.

And yup I'm still willing to host the website. I've started work on the PHP/MySQL back-end for it using a similar theme to the freewebs layout. It's fully customisable via CSS so I'll post up the style sheet when its complete for people to play with.

To keep things tidy a Coders Turf account will be required to submit links so we don't get any bots messing things up for us!


Jess, I've sent you an email.



Does anybody have any suggestions for the categories that we could sort links into on the web ring?

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I'm totally cool with it, and I agree that freewebs isn't particularly good for being the central hub for our websites, many of which are or will in the future be commercial sites. Not to say the freewebs site was bad; the design was spot on and it's already driven up hits for some of us. Maybe we could directly port the freewebs page to the new server, and make a few minor aesthetic adjustments?

Whatever we do or change in the coming weeks, I don't think we should allow people to add sites on their own. I think it could invite unnecessary trouble and headache. We should probably password-restrict adding new sites to the webring and designate a few administrators to the task of checking up on it and whatnot. Maybe we could have a queue of some sort, and when an administrator logs in he or she will view a list of sites wanting to be added and will then get the opportunity to accept or reject those requests. But I'm the least-talented web designer of all of us involved, and arguably the worst on TGC, so my idea might be terrible, and you may have just wasted time reading the suggestion lol.

@ Josh: Thanks for the suggestions! I'm still absorbing everyone's ideas and offline I've been re-constructing the website based on what everyone has been telling me. Hopefully with the site's next update I'll have the font changed, the color softened, all of the images in PNG format (the Cheney Hunter support page has a monsterous bitmap that needs swapping), and I might even re-do some of the logos using less beveling, as Meg pointed out (where has Meg been lately, anyone know?). I'm also going to investigate Simple Machines more and find out how I could transfer my pre-existing PHPBB database over to Simple Machines without losing my semi-active forum. I'll want to do that soon, too... I only have 11 registered users and it would be wise to make the switch before Eternal Equinox comes out and the forums (possibly) gain some activity.

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PS.- Maybe we could set up a forum on the webring for people's questions and whatnot? Would that be beneficial or a waste of time?

PPS.- I think the webring should just be alphabetized. Maybe we could have sorting options, like, say, sort by number of games released, sort by number of hits (hits from the webring site anyway), etc. But until we get more than, I dunno, 20 sites or so, I don't know that sorting would really be necessary yet.


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Alphabetized? Yes, I agree

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If needed, I could design some sort of database type thing to help organize the sites in the webring. This way you could sort it. And see the most popular, and what not. Though finding out the amount of games would be difficult as you would need to go to a site manually and search.

Or, we COULD try and make our own spider that will search the site for Zips, rars, and exes. That wouldn't be too easy though.

Heck, a .com address is far better than a co.nr domain. That's very kind of you Josh.

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I wish I'd found this thread sooner!

Personally I use Drupal for my sites - its a CMS which is programmer friendly (unlike Wordpress which is more USER friendly rather than PROGRAMMER friendly).

A forum would be a waste of time. A Million people have tried to make forums external to these and they've all died due to lack of people going there. Forums are REALLY hard to maintain and keep alive without visitors!

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Alphabetic sounds good.

One problem I may fore-see is that what if a site falls under more than one category?
For example, my site jt0.org could go with Code Snippets, Dark Basic Apps & Game / WIPs...
But that's symatics, no need to worry about that till later.

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Quote: "One problem I may fore-see is that what if a site falls under more than one category?"

Put it in both!

I can SO easily see how this can be done in Drupal!!
Example:
http://www.teachingexpertise.com/links

Thats one of the sites at work (my colleague set that one up, but I helped him). That page uses the following modules:
1) CCK (Content Construction Kit). You create a "node" which we defined withe a few fields like URL, title and description.
2) Views. This allows us to control a list of nodes. We can order them by date added or title or whatever we like (almost). We can even expose the sort order for people. We can also expose filter options too.

To add tagging to that would take a few clicks and key presses - about 1 minute of work.

I'll try to setup an example site somewhere to show you...

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lol, you really are an embassador for Drupal, eh

I didn't really mean that it'd be hard to put it in more than on Category, but more that if one site fell under more Categories than another, it would have more exposure, and would present an unfair advantage in the possibility of getting click-throughs, would it not?

But having said that, if your site contains more variety of things than the other persons, all the better for you I suppose...

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@ Matt:

That's a good suggestion, my idea for the admin page was more simple but I think yours will work better.


@ Dabip:

Jess T is providing the Domain and I'll be providing the hosting. Just to clarify!


About Drupal:

I've gotten some very nice ideas for how we can organise/layout the web ring from Drupal although I am confident I can reproduce everything we need without using Drupal itself. The trouble here is getting external software to work with my heavily customised website and server-setup.


I can add lots of nifty stats to the links, such as the number of clicks, which websites people came from, times of the day/week that links are most popular, etc, etc.


lol its 2AM here so sorry if this is a bit messy!

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We should see what everyone else thinks. Again, I don't really know how complicated it would be because I'm a novice web designer, but in theory, it sounds like a good idea .

Maybe we could have some system in place where when one of us releases a game or an app, the webring's site would inform its visitors that the new product has been released, like a banner or something? Just an idea... we should probably milk this webring site for everything it's worth, lol.


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Matt,

For that, a feed of some-sort would be perfect, as Nick mentioned in This Thread.

That way, the web-ring taps into the RSS feeds, has maybe half a dozen displayed on the side, or even marquee'd across the top (I know, Marquee's are horrid, but if done right, they can be effective), and, for those that have them, put a link for both the site itself and its feed.

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Quote: "Jess T is providing the Domain and I'll be providing the hosting. Just to clarify! "


Yah, I know. Just saying it's very nice.

Oh I see, Jess is Domain, you are Hosting. Ok, then it's even better
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I supposed I should learn how this RSS stuff works.

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Ok - as I said above, I'd knock up an example.

http://example.thingy-ma-jig.co.uk/

This really is a tribute to how easy Drupal is to work with as a developer.

I'm using "off the shelf" open source modules and open source theme's. The theme has a few bugs in it - but its likely something I've broken while setting it up in a rush...

In anonymous mode you can only click the tags and click the links. If, in IE7 the bottom bar appears over something - hit refresh. Should fix it temporarily (it does on mine... seems to be an IE feature).

To log in, use "guest" as username and password - DON'T GO CHANGING IT! This is for people to play with.

To add a link you need to be logged in. You should see a Create Content link on the left. Click on that and you get a list of all the content types you can make - in this case, its just a Link.

Fill out the form. Note: If you dont put anything in the Categories its gonna make a little difficult to get to. Not a problem for an admin and easy to fix... Just cant be arsed right now! Comma seperate the categories. If you leave it long enough, a list will appear suggesting similar categories (eg, type in tg and it will show tgc as a suggestion). Again, I think there is a CSS bug there somewhere...

Finally, Submit it and it will appear in the tags you specified.

If you specify a tag that doesn't exist - Drupal will create it and map a nice URL to it too

Try it out and let me know what you think.

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Sorry to double post - but just thought I'd add that in the last 12 minutes I've added a Tagadelic page + a dynamic category page which shows the node count in brackets... Links are the tabs at the top right of that page.

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Err... I don't know. There is just something about it I just don't like. It's easy to use, but just something pinches me about it. I'm now sure what it is. It's cool, and looks cool, but I'm just not sure.

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I thinks it pretty cool Nick. The only problem is that you cant edit. The link I put in doesn't work.

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Here's my attempt, its a very basic WIP and I've taken some ideas from the Drupal setup...

http://webring.codersturf.com (We'll setup the Domain later)

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Quote: "but just something pinches me about it"

Its a little hard to fix things like that

Quote: "The only problem is that you cant edit"

That'd be a simple access control issue... And, in this case, seeing as we never view each node - I've added an edit link to each entry that a user has permission to edit. This means that if joebloggs logged in then they'd only see edit for the ones they made, not the ones 'guest' made.

Quote: "Here's my attempt, its a very basic WIP and I've taken some ideas from the Drupal setup..."

Nice start! Initial concerns:
1) Its massively non-SEO friendly. Google doesn't know how to use javascript links. That means it'll never see that category pages which, trust me, are the most important pages on your site.
2) Although they work, URL's which use arguments for pages (eg index.php?page=view) are not as friendly as those acting as unique pages (as Drupal does using its "path.module" system). That problem is EASILY solved using Apache Rewrites (which is how drupal does it).

Apart from that I quite like the design.

Personally - I would go for the Drupal option mainly because there are SO many things already written FOR us... As you can see on my example above we already have category pages and if a new link is made in a new category then that page is generated automatically. We also have 3 types of category listings - one in a block on the left, one as a bullet point list page with link count in brackets and one more as a Tagadelic page. All good for SEO to bring traffic to the site (which, at the end of the day, is the whole point of this project). We want a site which helps drive people to our own sites. That means SEO is the most important part.

Drupal also has the options to add a voting bit to each link. Could be cool!

If you want more examples of Drupal sites, MTV UK are using it along with a Nasa site somewhere and also Spread Firefox, The Onion and a few others. See the Drupal Showcase for more examples..

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1) How easy is Drupal to integrate with Simple Machines (if its at all possible)?

2) As you seem to know Druptal quite well, how much modification do you think it would need to work smoothly with previously written login and security code? E.g. rip out the Drupal login, and replace it?

I've already written some 40,000 lines of code for the back-end of Coders Turf... Things like comments, voting, rating, etc can be added to any page with a single line of code.

I'll look into Drupal some more in a few days.. (After I recover from New Years. )

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Wow, lots of things have happened since I was last here

Seeing as I'm only good with basic HTMl I'll leave the Drupal and categories stuff to Nicholas Thompson and Josh.

@Josh: I'm not entirely sure but does the old webring serve any purpose at the moment because if not I may as well get rid of it and email you the list of sites that were present on it

Also, I agree with Alphabetized but it seems a bit unfair at the person who is at the bottom because of their name(especially if the list is very long for each category)
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I still have a really bad feeling about letting people add their own sites. I think we'd be much better off with a small handful of volunteer administrators who have access to the site, and people can submit their own sites to a queue from which those administrators could review the submitted websites for proper content prior to giving them a webring link. This might be exactly what you guys are talking about and I've misread everything, but I wanted to voice my opinion on this just in case

I feel like I should say thanks to everyone for taking this idea in all of these awesome directions. It started with just me and Dabip talking about how it could be a good idea and linking each other and now it's growing and taking on a totally new form... it's so cool . I think this is going to benefit a large number of indie developers and I'm sort of proud to have played a minor role in it

@ Colosseum: Don't get rid of it yet! Until we get the other one up and running, the webring you created is out only webring. Also, after the new one is up, we might want to re-direct from the one you created for a few weeks (if you don't mind, that is) because that site is definitely drawing in some traffic for some of us.


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OK then, I'll keep http://www.dbwebring.co.nr for now
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Posted: 1st Jan 2007 06:09 Edited at: 1st Jan 2007 06:12
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Matt,
I'm pretty certain that both Josh's system and Drupals would be able to have a simple flag saying submissions haven't been approved, and be able to serve up a page listing all those un-approved submissions.

It's just simple bit of SQL "WHERE `approved` = '0'"

Josh,
I don't know how others feel about it, but personally, I don't want to see a forum on the webring site.

It's a site for links, and to be honest, the forum will more than likely be empty and an empty forum is much worse than no forum.

But, that's just my opinion, how do you guys feel about it?

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Since your site is free, then it would be best if you kept it up indefinatly.
We've already established ourselves from that site, and when the new address goes live, all we have to do is then direct visitors to the new address.
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I agree with everything that Jess T says.

Quote: "I think we'd be much better off with a small handful of volunteer administrators who have access to the site, and people can submit their own sites to a queue from which those administrators could review the submitted websites for proper content prior to giving them a web ring link"


*Nudges every one's shoulders all the while coughing at the same time


Though I do like the way this is going. This is going to be great advertising wise. Someone should add a site map to Google for this so that Google will have a better layout of this site.

Edit: Also, I found out I only have 3 hits from the webring.

18 from MISoft and ...
5511 from the Forums themselves

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Hey nick how do you edit the image?

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Eureka,
I don't think that it's a final system. It was put together to show the advantage of using Drupal.

We still have a week and a half before we can go online, so there's plenty of time to play with all these settings and what-not.

dabip,
I'm not sure of Drupal's ability to do that, but it's not hard. I have PHP code that dynamically generates and updates sitemap files as elements of the site change.

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The image? As in the thumbnail? Thats a free MSN service... Example:
http://msnsearch.srv.girafa.com/srv/i?s=MSNSEARCH&r=http://forum.thegamecreators.com

I've never heard of Simple Machines - it looks like a piece of forum software...

Personally, I think a forum is a bad idea. Maybe once the traffic gets higher or we get some users registered? I've just seen hundreds of forums over the years open and close due to lack of use.

Quote: "E.g. rip out the Drupal login, and replace it?"

Firstly - why would you want/need to do that? Drupal already has a damn good login system with it. You can even set it up to link your username and password to another Drupal site (they both need to have a specific but included module enabled).

Security wise, Drupal is fantastic. They have a dedicated Security RSS feed which I keep an eye on.

To be honest - I dont mind what people do. I just know that Drupal can do it and will provide a good foundation for future development, however if you already have 40,000 lines of code that YOU know then go ahead and use it. The reason I posted that link above was to show how easily it can be done in Drupal (not that your system doesn't sound easy) - I wanted to make sure people didn't dismiss an off-the-shelf CMS like that for no real reason.

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I think things have gotten a bit confused here. Lets just review a couple of things.

My portal Coders Turf is running on top of a heavily modified version of the Simple Machines Forum. This is because it enables me to allow any website on any server in the world to synchronise its logins with CT.

The web ring does not have a forum of its own and its a completely separate site from Coders Turf, but it just uses the Coders Turf forum for its user logins.


Anyway its up to you guys whether we use my custom system, or the pre-built Drupal one. I'll finish my system and then we can vote on it.

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Quote: "I'll finish my system and then we can vote on it."

Excellent idea

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Just a quick update.

I've been rewriting the website so its more search engine friendly, it no longer uses Javascript URLs or iFrames and once on the new server the URLs will be search engine friendly too, just like Drupal.

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