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Matt Rock
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Posted: 28th Mar 2007 21:23
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I first learned about this last night on the Colbert Report, and then later in a short blurb on CNN. This is going to sound like a bad skit on Saturday Night Live with Jim Brewer eating beer cans and making goat sounds at Tim Meadows. But it's an actual news story, and while it may not be getting much attention by the mainstream media yet, I can only assume you'll be hearing about this... thing... a lot in the weeks and months to come.

Scientists from the University of Nevada have created a sheep that is 15% human. It has the body of a sheep, but human organs. The idea here, allegedly, is to grow human organs inside an animal so they can be used for organ transplants and the like. The scary part of it all is that a portion of the sheep's brain... yes, I said brain... is also human.

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Posted: 28th Mar 2007 21:35
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Yes, i heard about this on the radio 2 days ago, scary stuff. I didn't know about the brain part though.

let's see how it turns out, probably the sheep will play stupid while figuring out how to escape and take over the world.....think about it, who will suspect the sheep?

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Posted: 28th Mar 2007 21:58
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Sheep dont have fingers or thumbs, they cant take over the world. But if one some how is born with human hands, then yeah, the sheep can take over.
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Posted: 28th Mar 2007 22:00 Edited at: 28th Mar 2007 22:03
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The cells of the sheep are 15 percent human at cellular level

The only reason it will have a partially human brain, will be because 15% of all of the cells in its body will be human, presumably because of it's DNA structure. So the fact it has a partially 'Human' (and by that, Human-DNA) brain is practically meaningless.

It most likely makes it no more intelligent or special, it simply makes it 'compatible' with human cells/structures

(This was /.'d too by the way)


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Posted: 28th Mar 2007 22:14 Edited at: 28th Mar 2007 22:14
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Rofl at this comment
Quote: "I think we may be repeating history. We probably had great technology and did it thousands of years ago and destroyed ourselves almost completely. Few humans survived and started over. That is why there are these myths of all these half human half animals."


The sheep are taking over!!!!

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Posted: 28th Mar 2007 22:16
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Wow. This has to be made into a game, the concept is perfect. Sheeps secretly plot against the humans... somewhere along the line aliens come in... some explosions... M$ will eat it up.


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Posted: 28th Mar 2007 22:19
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thats kinda creepy, whats gonna happen when you're just sitting on a bench and a sheep comes up and starts talking to ya.

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Yea, it is beautiful today and you know what elssssss....ahahagghhhhh! A talking sheep!

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Posted: 28th Mar 2007 22:30
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How come all this cloning and experiments are on sheep ? you rarely here them cloning other animals like those that are endangered ?
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Posted: 28th Mar 2007 22:36
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Now certain people in farming areas will be in full relationships with their sheep.

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Posted: 28th Mar 2007 23:15
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That's a good question LD52... now I'm wondering why as well. It's always sheep you here about, like they do stuff to sheep first and then they test it out on other animals later on. Do Sheep have simple DNA structures or something?

Quote: "Now certain people in farming areas will be in full relationships with their sheep. "

It's one thing to marry your sheep, but it's something completely different when said sheep makes your life miserable because you won't mow the lawn .


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they don't clone endangered species as clones have around 50% the lifespan of the original and age exeptionally fast. thats why they are researching clone farming as we would never be out of stock of chicken again!! ever!!


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it will start in wales, the sheep takeover (i think there are more of them than us over here i heard), and no this isnt descrimination because i am welsh

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Quote: "Now certain people in farming areas will be in full relationships with their sheep."


Bet this is how the 15% human came about. SURE they did it in a lab, but that was no turkey baster.

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Creepy, but atleast they didnt put the 15% of human cells in a monkey, that would make up for the 4% genetic difference, and then they would be some sort of, super human! /end stupid statement


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Quote: "they don't clone endangered species as clones have around 50% the lifespan of the original and age exeptionally fast."


oh ! so their making sheep that will become old fast .
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Quote: "oh ! so their making sheep that will become old fast ."


I think the point is, if the endangered animals begin to breed the smaller life span gene will continue to spread into the endangered animal's population until before you know it, all of the animals that were endangered before, now live half as long as well.

Though I recall hearing that it isnt always 50%, one theory was the age the clone is born at is the age the cells used for the cloning were when they were obtained from another animal. So if the animal that gave the cloning cells was 4 years old, the baby sheep will have cells 4 years old. Which brought on contraversy about people wondering if they maintained the brain of a 4 year old as well, allowing us to eventually have baby geniouses - humans born that have the knowledge and experience of say a top-notch uni-student, or worse, a soldier. Ofcourse the US will be the first to get ahold of said technology, and we'll have massive armies of mindless soldier clones focused on nothing but combat. Joy.


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Posted: 29th Mar 2007 00:55
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Quote: "now live half as long as well."

So...if they don't live as long, they won't be as endangered as they would be living a full life.

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If they make them part dolphin instead of part human then they could manufacture wet look knitwear


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Posted: 29th Mar 2007 00:59 Edited at: 29th Mar 2007 01:00
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They clone sheep because 95% of all scientists enjoy knitting.

Edit: Damn Mnemonix for posting at the same time as me with a stolen gag, thus dwarfing my gag! You will pay!


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I will pay you nothing! You sheep cloner you!


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Interesting, I can see protestors coming out from this, probably those saying we shouldn't play God, but to be honest, I would mind playing God for a day, but that's delving too much into the plot of Bruce Almighty.

I personally have a shady eye on cloning, because it seems very much to me that they're not considering long term effects of what may happen, but I suppose that's what the experiments are for, or perhaps I just read a novel about the life of human clones given up for donation. ("Never Let Me Go" by Kazuo Ishiguro if anyone is interested, it's a good read if you're into life story novels)

Also, as you said 'discuss', just hope that you won't get any immature comments or people getting worked up about anything, it's a big forum and you're Matt Rock

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Quote: "but it's something completely different when said sheep makes your life miserable because you won't mow the lawn "


ROFL, sheep people...the new minorities!

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I heard of this on a programme called Animal Farm. They do all sorts of stuff on that. On the last episode they grew a new nose for a guy.. too bad he already had one

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Posted: 29th Mar 2007 02:37 Edited at: 29th Mar 2007 02:37
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Quote: "they don't clone endangered species as clones have around 50% the lifespan of the original and age exeptionally fast."


That's not strictly true. While I am certainly no expert in the matter so don't start attacking me unnecessarily here. If the cell being cloned is 5 years old, then the new cell created will also be 5 years old.

So when Dolly the sheep was created even though she was a baby, on a cellular level she was the same age as sheep she was cloned from.

Like I said I'm no expert so before someone else does it and posts something to say I am completely wrong I will post a link to something that explains it but has plenty of big words in that I don't understand such as telomeres and senescence: Dolly the Sheep
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Just wait till the night shift security guard keeping an eye on the experimental sheep gets freaked out when the sheep starts walking towards him and tries to form human words... THAT would be really creepy...

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Yes! I've been looking for something to animate for awhile and now I know what I'm doing! Well probably not but it would still be cool.

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Poor farmers, now the sheep can say NNNoooooo.

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Quote: "I heard of this on a programme called Animal Farm. They do all sorts of stuff on that. On the last episode they grew a new nose for a guy.. too bad he already had one "


That program is misleading on the Sky planner, I put it on thinking "Oooh George Orwells Animal Farm" and was gravely disappointed, despite the fact I could have ran upstairs and grabbed the DVD.

Some reason now that I think of people cloning, I think of mad scientists with sinister laughs, referring to his creations as his 'precious' sort of a Gollum like figure resembling that scene of Black Books when Bernard and Manny are trying to replace a really old wine. I don't know why, I just do.

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@Matt: Its called Therapeutic Cloning and actually is a good option. This will help a lot of people on the organ donor list, as organs are still hard to get, just remember that =)

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I'm definitely not denying the positive effects of this. I've known people who died but would have possibly benefited from organ transplants, but such transplants are hard to come by. I'm just hoping that this doesn't end up introducing humans to more animal diseases... they always seem to be the scariest ones.

Quote: "Bet this is how the 15% human came about. SURE they did it in a lab, but that was no turkey baster."

I don't know why, but this just made me wonder about something. I don't know much about genes and cloning so this is sort of a question that maybe someone can answer: are any animal's genes more dominant than other animal genes? For instance, are human cells more dominant than sheep cells or the other way around? So that maybe if two man-sheep get their groove on and make a baby man-sheep, would baby man-sheep be, say, 20% man, or instead, maybe 90% sheep? Does that question make any sense? lol I tried to phrase that as simply as I could but this is definitely not a subject I know much of anything about.


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that is really interesting matt, although i doubt it as i think all genes are the same (animal and human alike) and its simply how they are arranged in the organisms DNA structure, im probably wrong though.


i think the should do it to cows next time so this could happen. free the bovines!!


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Why do we need to grow the organs in another animal? Haven't they already grown organs in petri(sp?) dishes?

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That video was HILARIOUS. It's getting sent to everyone I know lol.

You're probably right about genes being the same. I always see "super beings" in movies like The Fifth Element and they have super-DNA, so it made me think that maybe certain animals have "stronger" DNA than others, but it's probably just Hollywood-science hehe.

Quote: "Why do we need to grow the organs in another animal? Haven't they already grown organs in petri(sp?) dishes?"

I was really interested in that technology they showed on that Discovery Channel special "2051." They had that "skinjet printer," remember that? It seems genuinely cool and I'd love to see if they made progress with it, but I don't know what they actually called it. But for those who didn't see that special, the "skinjet" is a printer (yes, like a computer printer) that sort of "draws" human organs, and it's planned for use in the future. According to the show, the people who invented it have already made human tissue with it, and in the future it might be able to produce full organs and whatnot. Pretty cool little gadget I think.


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Quote: "So that maybe if two man-sheep get their groove on and make a baby man-sheep"


Cool - now we're talking same-sex, human-sheep accelerated reproduction. I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue.

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well, I meant two human/sheep crossbreeds, not *literally* two man-sheeps.


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