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Geek Culture / Master Quest (MMORPG in Flash)

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Area 51
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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 03:12
My friend and and I are going to try make an MMORPG in Flash called "Master Quest" (bumm, bumm, buuuuuuumm). We were planing on making it a bit like Runescape, with quests and weapons from a Middle Ages fantsy. But the quests would be different, requiring you to think and explore while also interacting with other players.

Do you guys have any ideas for the game?

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The crazy
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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 03:16
Cool, what other awesome games have you made in flash that have given you the experience to make something like this? They must be good I'd love to play them.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 03:23 Edited at: 24th Jun 2007 03:24
You've got a point but this is life long dream and a really long project.

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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 03:28
I have also wanted to create a MMORPG, but I soon gave up after a week. You know why? because I have no will to learn programing nor the will to really push my self to make all the media for the game.

Unless you really like to program and create media, you will also fail and give up within a week or so.

I'm not sure, but I didn't think flash did 3D...? unless you are wanting to make a 2D runescape...
Grandma
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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 03:34
I'm in no way good with flash ( done a few small projects ), but i'm 100% sure flash can do basic 3d. I doubt flash's 3d capabilities will be good enough for gaming purposes though.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 03:37 Edited at: 24th Jun 2007 03:38
We were thinking of making it either a 2D or a fake 3D. We've got plenty of will, and when there's a will, there's a way.

[EDIT] I've seen 3D games in flash before.

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Mikey P
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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 04:31
I think there's a MMORPG called Dofus which uses a Flash client. It's quite nice.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 05:06
Quote: "this is life long dream"


I have a life long dream of a million dollars landing in my lap. Needless to say, I don't think its going to happen.


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The crazy
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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 05:06
First of all I wasnt being completely sarcastic I really wanted to see some cool flash games.

Second, if there's a will there's not always a way. Especially with mmo's. I dont mean to crush your spirits, in fact I want to do the opposite. But if you've never made a game before you should definitely rethink. Make some small games first

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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 05:19
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Then Ill take that honor. You will NEVER create a flash MMORPG, EVER. You can either choose to go at it now and give up sometime in the foreseeable future, or move on now. For your sake I hope you choose the latter, but in all honesty, I doubt you will. Here's to being there to point and laugh when you fail.

/end mean sadistic rant


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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 05:37 Edited at: 24th Jun 2007 07:30
Quote: "I have a life long dream of a million dollars landing in my lap. Needless to say, I don't think its going to happen"


By that statement you have gauranteed yourself it won't. Be careful about doing that. Honestly.

Keep thinking that a million dollars will fall in your lap. We are not sure exaclty how, or when, but be patient. Honestly it needs to be more than a dream, but a dream is a start. Now believe in it. Make it happen. See it happening. Feel it happening. The universe can work in very mysterious ways. By thinking it's not going to happen, will ensure you it never will. I'm not saying it's going to fall out of the sky, (although it could), but there is nothing stopping anyone of from having a million dollars or more come into their lives, except them... AND more importantly - "Thinking it will never happen!"

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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 05:44 Edited at: 24th Jun 2007 07:29
Quote: "Then Ill take that honor. You will NEVER create a flash MMORPG, EVER. You can either choose to go at it now and give up sometime in the foreseeable future, or move on now. For your sake I hope you choose the latter, but in all honesty, I doubt you will. Here's to being there to point and laugh when you fail.

/end mean sadistic rant"


Remind me to never work with you. LOL!!!!You are a very limited in your current state of thinking. I have been there myself. I feel you may need to re-evaluate what you believe is possible.

Do I think he will make a Flash MMORPG tomorrow? No.

But will it EVER be possible? Certainly!

And once he commits to doing it, it will be set in motion.

Is it uber-difficult? Yes.
Impossible? No!

It may not even work out this first time. But by keeping that dream. By believing in it, and wanting it so bad that nothing will get in one's way - not even failed attempts or setbacks... It will surely happen. That is if one wants it bad enough to make it happen regardless the journey that lies ahead. One cannot fathom walking across the United States. Especially when looking at the entire journey. But if one is willing to take the first step, and then the first 50 steps. One can break down the journey into sections of 50 steps. If one does not go astray, and consistently repeats the feat of 50 steps. One will walk across the United States.

The crazy
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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 06:00
Quote: "But if one is willing to take the first step, and then the first 50 steps. One can break down the journey into sections of 50 steps. If one does not go astray, and consistently repeats the feat of 50 steps. One will walk across the United States."


That is of course if someone knows how to walk. Learn the basics first dude.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 06:18
Quote: "That is of course if someone knows how to walk. Learn the basics first dude."


Agreed. I approach things like this is the same fashion. Solidly learn 2-3 concepts a day. If you do that, in 30 days you will be 60-90 times more knowledgeable than today. Over a period of time it will add up. So Repeat learning 60-90 concepts solidly, inside and out.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 07:19
Why don't you make a few games that deal with the area of a MMO or at least the area of a RPG so you can learn the basics of how to make attributes and the such once you've done that try and make all the games you've made into one bigger game then try your idea out, see how it works etc.

"I have noticed even people who claim everything is predestined, and that we can do nothing to change it, look before they cross the road."
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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 07:50
there is a flash open mmorpg out there with complete client already. I found it before but forgot to save the link. Thin the creator is called unknown

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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 10:46 Edited at: 24th Jun 2007 19:03
You might be able to make one in Macromedia/Adobe Director - that's what's used for Habbo Hotel...but I seriously doubt you'll make one I'm afraid, MMORPGs are quite complex to make, if you've had not previous game making/programming experience, you will find it almost impossible - I've seen good coders try and fail them in DBP - those that succeed aren't perfect and aren't as complex as Runescape or WoW - you'll also need to host the client on a server that runs constratly.

So if you want to make an MMORPG in flash, then start small - make an extremely simple flash game, then make it more complex and keep learning and learning, until you can get a decent working RPG game (And trust me, it'll be difficult to get to that point) and then start learning some internet fuctions, making accounts on the server, login functions - and then piece it all together. This sort of game making isn't always that easy, not even in flash.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 16:44
Heres my MMORPG Libary For dbpro! Enjoy..




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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 18:50
Ah, the canned "you're making an mmorpg so you're stupid" responses. You know people, I strongly suspect this is why most of ye will never make anything proper, someone has said once that it isn't possible, and so you go around spouting it to everyone who mentions it again.

OF COURSE it's possible to make an MMORPG. It's most definitely not easy, but it can be done, given enough time and perseverance, and research.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 18:54
I think you would be better off creating pac man. If you can make a pac man clone, you will have most of the skills to make a mmorpg. If you think about it, pac man has path finding, collision, AI, and player movement, every thing you need for a basic mmorpg.
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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 18:56
Quote: "If you can make a pac man clone, you will have most of the skills to make a mmorpg"



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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 19:09
Indeed Ken, if you have perseverance, you can do it, but a lot of people 'dream' of one thing, but the realistic thing is the other - Area 51, if you feel an MMORPG in flash is a realistic goal, then go right for it - pick up flash and start small and grow into your MMORPG.

I'd probably recommend you build towards a fully working RPG in Flash, then an environment where multiple players can roam a world together - then they can have the ability to have an account and login, then move actions that people can do with their character, like chat and then start building the elements from the RPG into what now will be your MMORPG.

@Roxas, that was uncalled for.

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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 19:16
Its true Benjamin, might not be exact, but its close enough to get on your way to making a mmorpg.
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Posted: 24th Jun 2007 19:18
I do agree. I just.. thought it would be more fun to quote the first line than to bother reading the rest of the post.

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