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Gil Galvanti
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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 22:39
Hey,
I'm just curious as to what everyone thinks about the existence of, like the title says, Aliens, or UFO's, Ghosts, and Bigfoot. All of them have quite a bit of evidence pointing both ways, so until conclusive proof is found either way for any of them, I'm on the fence about them. What do you think?


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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 22:41
I am very certain that there are still undiscovered secrets on this world.Most likely Bigfoot and some hidden civilization's.And Aliens?Come on,we cant be the only one's in such a HUGE place as the universe.

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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 22:42 Edited at: 25th Jun 2007 22:43
Bigfoot lives in my garden..LOL
I think Ghosts exist like how would people like haunt others? UFO's and Aliens no or yes because Area 51 "apparently" have a alien spaceship in there.Or a air conditioner.LOL But i think that area 51 just said about a alien in there just for publicity. And I agree with POD because space will never end.

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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 22:48 Edited at: 25th Jun 2007 22:51
Aliens - Yes, there are most likely millions of Earth like planets in the universe somewhere.

UFO's - That's more tough, I guess so - some of the sightings could have been real.

Ghosts - Maybe, maybe not.

Bigfoot - No, I doubt that there is a species of hairy things that have succesfully evaded everyone for decades.

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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 23:06
I don't think there are millions of earth like planets, i think there are millions of planets with life on and the life has adapted to the conditions of the planet, as have we.
I also don't believe these UFO sightings are real, would we spy on another planet for hundreds of years and not come down and try to talk to a leader of the planet?

I do think there is life somewhere else, as for ghosts, i have no specific belief on where we go after this life but i believe there is another place after death.

i think there are many undiscovered places on this earth, which we are yet to find, whether a culture of humans has survived on the island i don't know.


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Yes, I do believe that there may be aliens, yet they may be microscopic single-celled organisms. Hey, it's still a form of life But I doubt that a microscopic thing could pilot a UFO...
Ghosts-Who knows?
BigFoot-Yes, he's the pizza-delivery man next door
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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 23:21
Quote: "I don't think there are millions of earth like planets, i think there are millions of planets with life on and the life has adapted to the conditions of the planet, as have we."


I posted something semi-recently about findings of a very similar planet to Earth, only 20 lightyears from here. That's either coincidence, or it proves something.

Anyway, Aliens - Yes
UFOs - Personally, no, but there have been lots of descent sober people that have seen sightings, so it may be possible.
Ghosts - If there is nothing to prove it, how did the theory even start? I place my bets on no. If they were true, it would affect more people than just people on TV.
Bigfoot - I'm sure we would have found it by now.

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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 23:24
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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 23:27
To answer my own question, I think there are lifeforms on other planets, I just don't know how advanced. As for UFO's, I'm not sure, but I think most of the sightings are just top secret military aircraft. The stealth bomber was confused for UFO's when it was in development, so I think it's the same with what they are making now.

Ghosts I'm not sure about, but there are plenty of sane people who have had encounters with them and had strange phenomenon happen, so I guess it's possible.

And I agree with Bigfoot, that would likely would have found one by now, but I think there is a small chance that we have just missed them, and there is a very small population so they are very rare (I'm talking like no more than 20-30 in the world).


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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 23:28
Aliens? Considering the possible size of the universe then practically impossible not to be. Actual UFOs from other planets visiting Earth? Same sort of logic suggests almost impossible for that to happen. And in the time frame of your lifetime then raise that almost impossible figure to an even more unbelievable level. Still a very slight chance, but *unbelievably* unlikely.

Ghosts? Hmmm. Personally I don't know. On the one hand it is true that we seriously want to believe in something after death (c'mon, who wouldn't?). But on the other hand the idea I heard a while back that strong emotional outbursts could cause lingering electrical energy to be picked up by people with similar frequency brains in the future, resulting in a sort of ghostly effect. Not bad explanation I think.

Bigfoot? Who cares?

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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 23:31
Quote: "Bigfoot? Who cares?"


I'll drink to that

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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 23:32
Quote: "Bigfoot? Who cares?"

Well said


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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 23:33
Quote: "But on the other hand the idea I heard a while back that strong emotional outbursts could cause lingering electrical energy to be picked up by people with similar frequency brains in the future, resulting in a sort of ghostly effect. Not bad explanation I think."

Lol, that's an even stranger explanation than remains of people from an afterlife .

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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 23:45
Well considering I tune into Coast to Coast AM each night

Aliens: Yes

UFO's: Yes

Ghosts: Possible, but definately Energies and Entities

Bigfoot: Doubtful.

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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 23:51
Aliens - Perhaps, but they haven't visited us. UFOs are arse.

Ghosts - No.

Bigfoot - No.

Loch Ness Monster - No

It's all a load of rubbish. I agree Aliens are plausible and could well be out there, but I think the rest is rubbish. There just isn't any evidence. Every man and his dog has a video camera on their mobile phone, or cameras, and even now STILL we don't have any decent footage of UFOs, Aliens, Ghosts, Big Foot, the Loch Ness Monster, the 80 foot grandma, the giant lightspeed donut, the four armed giant turnip from Bangladesh, the 9 bum-cheeked grey worm or the mysterious rusted knight with soiled armour.

They don't exist, and the hoaxes are just setup by practical jokers, or people who want it to exist so badly, they're willing to fake it to get some attention.

That's my opinion, but it's hard to argue the opposite convincingly considering the lack of any decent evidence.


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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 23:55
UFO's, yes, by it's very definition anything I see in the sky that I don't know WHAT it is is a UFO, for me.


I think it would be naive to think we are the only living ORGANISMs out there. There must be something else alive, but not necessarily with bug eyes, three fingers and decedants of E.T.

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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 23:55
Quote: "that's an even stranger explanation than remains of people from an afterlife"
It is? Fair enough, that's your opinion. Although considering our brains use electricity and since whatever you sense through your brain (all that you see, feel etc) is essentially *real* to you then that is why I thought it was a pretty good logical idea. To me it makes more logical scientific sense than the afterlife idea. Not that I think either (or any other explanation) has any chance of being proven 100% one way or another (at least not while I'm alive).

Careful of getting the thread locked BTW.

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Posted: 25th Jun 2007 23:58
Yeah. Anyone else who contributes to the "after life" discussion can consider themselves responsible for getting the thread locked. Dazzag is already a very naughty young man.


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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 00:00
oh, and perhaps the aliens aren't sure who the leaders are when observing us. Figure if they see me walking my dog, and picking up is excrement. They may be trying to communicate with him...

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 00:01
Haha,

I think the subject of Ghosts are interesting.

I find the Derek Acorah v Derren Brown Points of view on mediumship etc interesting.

I just dont know about the physics of it though...

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 00:10
Quote: "It is? Fair enough, that's your opinion. Although considering our brains use electricity and since whatever you sense through your brain (all that you see, feel etc) is essentially *real* to you then that is why I thought it was a pretty good logical idea. To me it makes more logical scientific sense than the afterlife idea. Not that I think either (or any other explanation) has any chance of being proven 100% one way or another (at least not while I'm alive)."

But the thing is, the "ghosts" people see are almost always people from the past who suffered horrific or premature deaths, so the future idea doesn't fit with that .

Quote: "Careful of getting the thread locked BTW."

Sorry, didn't mean to come across as a religious statement. I'm a Christian.

Quote: "Figure if they see me walking my dog, and picking up is excrement. They may be trying to communicate with him..."

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I'm with Fallout all the way.

Aliens - I can't believe we are only intelligent beings anywhere, so I do believe they exist, just too far away to be any use

UFOs - No and if aliens did have the knowledge to cross vast distances, we would have made first contact by now.

Ghosts - don't be so silly. Just tricks of light.

Mediums - Money grabbing thieves preying on impressionable people

Bigfoot - No

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As ironic as his avatar is, I agree with Spooky(and Fallout)

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Aliens - Yes - can't be the only planet with living organisms - but UFO's, I doubt it - well yes as it does stand for 'unidentified flying object' - a guy who sees something flying and can't indentify what it is, it's a UFO. But in terms of alien space crafts - well to be honest I managed to create a photograph that looked like a UFO with my camera phone and it seemed fairly realistic - I didn't edit the image or create a fake UFO - I managed to do it by taking a picture of something with the right amount of light in the area and it looked like a UFO. As for UFO stories, the 'druggy' part of our town had a UFO siting 3 weeks ago...enough said (Not necessarily drugs, but delusions or mistinterpretations).

Bigfoot - They've been after him for years and nothing shows up but little bits of evidence - he's probably dead now if he ever existend. Never know it could be a really hairy guy who accidentally stamped on a bee's nest (Hence the big feet) I don't know enough about big foot to really comment.

Ghosts - Dunno about these, but I've felt a mystuc presence before - my cats have been spooked by something in hall way many times though I see nothing - but have felt something cold - perhaps as cat's see differently to us, perhaps they can see whatever is causing the cold feeling or there's some other explanation. As for ghosts, I don't know if that's enough to support the idea (Of course, as a Buddhist, I don't believe in the soul - so for me for this 'mystic presence' to be a ghost, it's illogical), but something mystic, yes, definitely.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 01:18 Edited at: 26th Jun 2007 01:24
Aliens, yes, smart aliens? Possibly. UFO's....ofcourse.

Bigfoot, no.

Ghosts, no.

Loch Ness monster, no.

Swedes, no.

Heat-seeking flying rocket propelled chainsaws, probably.

Edit: Well what do you know... lol



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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 01:32 Edited at: 26th Jun 2007 01:33
Interesting...I thought I saw a Swede once...turned out to be Norwegian, I guess they are really just a myth... Rocket Chainsaw guns? I wouldn't mind seeing one made - I can see it now on a JML advert "The new tree cutting chainsaw bazooka reaches those branches that are just too high! No more climbing awkward ladders! The Chainsaw Bazooka just get the job done!" - I see many accidents and lawsuits occuring - about time, I cannot stand those bloody JML adverts.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 01:50 Edited at: 26th Jun 2007 01:59
DOUBLE POSTING ACCIDENT.

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Sorry, Double Post, my bad.

Aliens: Yes. Definitely. Not necessarily intelligent but yes.

UFO's: You really think they'd fly all the way over here, traversing endless lightyears just to crash in a farming field? Or that they'd find us and not contact us? No.

Ghosts: No, definitely not. No such thing as dead coming back or haunting around. Idea doesn't make sense at all, actually. Who judges who has something left to do on Earth? Everyone who dies has things that they would've wanted to have done. Also a no for demons or haunted houses. Mediums, psychics, paranormally gifted: No - no sense in that neither.

Big Foot/Loch Ness Monster: No. Last one definitely not (Sonar resistant animal? Uhm. No), first one 99.9% certainly not. Probably just a big bear or something, I can't see why a single animal like that could go unnoticed for all these years while the surroundings of sightings are so extensively searched.

So, yeah, I'm a see before I believe-kinda guy, but I do believe in a God or all-engulfing presence (just not really in religion). Strange, eh.

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BigFoot, No. It is proposterous to assume that there is such a creature, and with no solid evidence.

Ghosts, Maybe. You need good and solid evidence, and a good explanation of the evidence, not just "Holy crap! That's not natural!".

Aliens, Yes. The universe is a big place, and ever expanding <Expansion was proven by 2000>. The likeliness of there being an ability to have life on other planets is likely. In fact, Mars has bacteria on it which can withstand extremely cold, and hot temperatures, but is not harmfull to humans. Bacteria is life, and life outside Earth is considered Alien. <So are people outside your country, but in this case, outside Earth>


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ghosts and aliens, not bigfoot.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 02:23 Edited at: 26th Jun 2007 02:41
Life in other planets - Yes. ... the basic concept of life is simple. We complicate things too much because we see and live the evolution.

Ghosts - No. In my opinion, ghosts are a mixture of imagination or Vodka, quackery, white bed sheets and ketchup.

Bigfoot - No.

Mothman - No.

Chupa-cabra - The fast creature was a group of wild dogs. Some Brasilians still fear that creature.. heheh ^^

off topic:

But I believe that there are many freak - freak, creatures in the oceans. Creatures that do not give ships a chance to get close, that can live at high depths, that may be some metres long or have special abilities.. It is easy to believe that there are unknown creatures in a so ample domain.

Some known examples.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 02:32 Edited at: 26th Jun 2007 02:36
Bigfoot - Not thoroughly convinced though I don't see it as impossible

UFOs - Yes, definitely. I've seen one myself

Aliens - Yes, but not in the typical sense, last time I explained it led the thread to being locked so I won't explain my views.

Ghosts - Same as aliens, won't explain

UFO sighting:

I was sitting around a camp fire at a youth group outing and listening to the dude talking. I was just gazing at the stars as I like to do at night. I happened to be looking in just the right place at the right time I suppose, because I saw a "star" move down closer to the horizon and then stop after about a second or two... I was thinking "No way, that star didn't just move and stop..." So I kept watching it. Sure enough it moved again, this time down but in the opposite sideways direction. It stopped once more, and again moved in the original direction and down, then stopped again. After a few seconds it then floated away behind some trees in a sideways "s" type movement. So it's path looked like this.



I can't explain it as anything other than a UFO. Alien controlled or experimental craft, I don't know. All I know is any plane I have ever seen doesn't stop in mid-motion instantaneously. Helicopters don't go that high and make lots of noise. Sattelites orbit... I dunno. Any ideas? Other than aliens of course. (though I'm convinced it's aliens)

I have a few relatives who have seen many unexplainable phenomenons in their house and in the sky as well (no we aren't crazy people).

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 05:55 Edited at: 26th Jun 2007 05:57
Ghosts - No.
Aliens - No (at least not in the real sense, no more to say about that)
UFOs - Sure--- my grandpa's friend shot a flying disc-shaped "vehicle" that was floating around on his farm over 20 years ago, with his shotgun (this is in a farming town in my province). It exploded in hundreds of pieces. The next few days there were vans driving around and parking, with little satellite dishes on their roofs, so he was paranoid and buried the evidence with his tractor.

Fast forward 20 years later--- my grandpa was of course interested, so he took my dad and they dug up pieces of it. I have a hunk of it at home--- it's all thick glass pieces with numerals inscribed on it. It's of course not alien, but still cool and kinda creepy. I can upload a pic of the evidence if anyone's interested.

Bigfoot - Yes! (and I noticed I'm the only one here). There are hundreds of sightings of the creature in my province, British Columbia. Most of the province is made up of forested regions, and they say over 80% of this territory has never been walked on by man. There is so much to this world that people haven't discovered, so it's nonsense to assume they don't exist purely because they would have been found by now

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aliens, possible but not documented
ufos well aliens cover that
bigfoot pfft get a life
ghosts pfft get a life

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@Jeku, Could you please upload the pic? I am very interested and curious.

I forgot to provide the link to COAST TO COAST AM with George Noory. Now if you are interested in serious discussion and interviews about aliens, UFO's, Paranormal, Technology, Biology, Disease etc... tune in.

Sounds quite similar to the "Roswell incident" which wasn't exactly in Roswell, but meh. Now if those markings are in an irredescent purple, and look sort of like hyroglyphics, I will be spooked. Mind you that the pieces from the Roswell "crash" contained no signs of current human electronic technology, no wires, no chips, no components, just some metallic alloy and glass pieces with markings on them.

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Here's what I mean about energies & entities.





Now before you think they are touched, please read the small artice. The on air discussion went into more depth, in which it was confirmed that there was no exposure abnormality, or lighting effect.

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Now can anyone tell me exaclty what this is? I mean if this thing was hovering over my backyard the govt would have some serious explaining to do. I can't help but think that this is someone's idea of a joke...

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 07:57 Edited at: 26th Jun 2007 07:58
Aliens - yes, the universe is huge. Not counting in the theory of multiple universes as well.

UFOs - yes they exist, no, we havent seen them. The ones that claim they have just use it as a rags to riches scheme.

Ghosts - no. as far as im concerned, we die, all of our body mechanisms stop functioning, and we cease to exist. No thinking, no sound, no touch, taste, smell, movement, nothing. A void.


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Quote: "The ones that claim they have just use it as a rags to riches scheme."


Well, I sure as heck saw something that night. (read my previous post)

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The good news is I think we are very close to finding out. Do you honestly think that governments are spending millions/billions of dollars on UFO & extraterrestrial research and Top secret projects and documents, if they had no evidence??? France and Brittain are on the verge of realesing hundreds of previously top secret documents specifically on UFO's. It will take some time, as they need to make sure they don't disclose names, informants, agents, and other national security issues. Hopefully this will eventually force the U.S. to follow suit. if not it will wind up being very costly for americans. The fact that our agencies are bogged to a hault handling all the Freedom Of Information Act Requests. They will have no other choice but to release these documents on their own accord, to free up the burden.

I think we are all in for quite a shock over the next two years. Honestly I think people are ready to hear anything and everything that governments know about ET's. I don't think that was the climate even 20 years ago. Look at all the posts of people saying that they at least believe in Aliens. It just goes to show that we are close to the revelation. There is more eveidence supporting UFO's and ET's every single day. And I'm not referring to Enquirer type claims, or mentally ill people. In fact, I just listened to a 3 hour program the other the night, from the son of the the Military general who was in charge of the Roswell crash site. He was the first on the scene, and brought some items from the crash home with him. He was a very credible High level general, and is son is of the same mindset. Probably the most credible witnesses to ever come out with their story.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 08:42 Edited at: 26th Jun 2007 08:43
Here are three pics of the glass. Sorry for the bad quality. This hunk does not have any numerals on it, but the one my grandpa has does.





It's pretty thick as you can see.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 08:46
Quote: "But the thing is, the "ghosts" people see are almost always people from the past who suffered horrific or premature deaths, so the future idea doesn't fit with that"
Bit of a sweeping statement. I used to love this sort of stuff as a kid and I remember programs that had stories like an entire street full of soldiers marching by, or a carriage going by. Harly horrific or premature death. And how does it not fit the electrical charge from very emotional moments? If anything your comment validated the electrical charge idea a lot more than an afterlife idea.

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I go back to a previous argument I made with people about ghosts. How many people can claim to have seen a ghost after they've been for a run, and had a cup of coffee, or in the middle of having rumpy pumpy, or laughing their ass off at the tele ... or any other situation when they're brain is switched on and their body is active? You never hear stories like that. It's always at night, or when somebody is in bed asleep, or early in the morning ... people are always drowsy, or they might claim not to be, but they always describe a situation that suggests they were tired.

When you're tired, your brain just doesn't work right, and interprets things strangely. I've had my own ghostly experienced. Unexplained sightings, movement, even laughter in my ear once as I turned out the light (scared the crap!!! out of me). Always at night, always when slightly sleepy. It's the brain being a bastard! And again, all the wierd whispy photographic evidence of spirits and energies and whatever. I still don't see how that can be ghosts? Even if it is genuine and not photoshopped stuff, or problems with the film, it could be any explainable natural phenominon. I doesn't have to be dead grandma.


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I agree. Some years ago when I was about 9 or 10 I awoke one night whilst on holiday to see a hand coming towards my face. I jumped out of bed and ran around the place screaming that the bogeyman was after me.
It turned out it had been my own arm propped against the wall probably numb from sleeping on it and it fell as I awoke. 20 years later I can still remember that feeling of fear, and then relief as I realised what a numpty I had been.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 15:36
.....i hear voices in my head.

no seriously, a few months ago i woke up in the middle of the night (~4.00AM) and heard some faint voices. I checked looking outside the window and the hall, but there was only silence. I went back to bed and heard them again, whispering. I even catched some words like "this" and "waves". Yes, strangely the voices was in english. So i checked the clock-radio, but it was off aswell as everything in my room that could make those sounds. So i put on a movie and skipped sleeping that night as the voices came back everytime i tried to sleep.

I don't believe in ghosts though, only rational explanations like the one fallout presented. It was still an interesting experience though.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 15:42
I woke up one night while I was in the Air Force, having a dream that my aunt called out to me. Turns out she passed away that night. I wasn't informed as I was in basic Training and my parents didn't want to stress me.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 15:45
I got freaked out to hell once, late at night, by Russians talking to me! I was on my computer, speakers off, and I could hear some Russians fading in and out, but obviously couldn't understand what they were saying. Really freaked me out.

As I listened intently, I realised it was coming from my computer speakers ... but they were off, and I don't have any sort of radio. I even unplugged them, and still, some Russian was speaking to me through them. This was about 2am as well. It was only after listening for several minutes that I realised someone was being interviewed .. two people were chatting to each other. It must've been a Russian radio station, bouncing radiowaves off the stratosphere or whatever, being picked up by my speaker wires and having just enough energy to output the sound (I actually saw this done some months later on a science programme on tele).

Needless to say, freaky as hell at the time. Thought I was going insane! But just another weird and wonderful thing science can explain.


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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 15:48 Edited at: 26th Jun 2007 15:50
@ zenassem

Wow, that reminds me of my dream about my cat dying the day before it really did. Sorry to draw parallels from your aunt to my cat though, but that's some scary s*!t.

@ Fallout

Quote: "Needless to say, freaky as hell at the time. Thought I was going insane!"


Haha, i can imagine.

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 17:32 Edited at: 26th Jun 2007 17:33
Quote: "I was on my computer, speakers off, and I could hear some Russians fading in and out, but obviously couldn't understand what they were saying"
Actually I've had something like that once years ago.

Also I used to get a similar effect after doing loads of programming. Was quite rare and has only happened a handful of times in my lifetime (like Deja Vu) when I was quite tired. Basically though I would be programming away and I would have this massive feeling that I could hear a party of people talking at a dinner table (like a dream I just knew this). I couldn't make out the words but the really weird bit was I could concentrate on the voices and my hands would carry on programming (as in properly programming). If I really balanced things right (felt similar to roller skating for the first time) then I could pretty much not be looking at the screen but be unfocused and really try and listen. Later I would look at the code I had programmed while not being there and it would be fine. Honest, I had programmed, tested, debugged, the lot, and was not really aware of it (apart from I could see it in an unfocused way as I listed to the conversation). I once did it while driving. Quite scarey that one afterwards (then again how often have you driven to work tired in the morning then realised that you remember nothing at all of the drive?).

Anyways, personally I believe it's some kind of left brain, right brain (have heard the same explanation for Deja Vu) type thing that is almost impossible to access. Would be good if could be controlled easily. Wouldn't mind, say, reading a book, and programming at the same time.

Also I haven't died or killed anyone yet (first time was about 20 something years ago), so I think I'll be ok

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 17:56
Jeku, yup i can see thats alien glass! pfft. And I thought you were clever.
LMAO

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Posted: 26th Jun 2007 18:25
Quote: "And how does it not fit the electrical charge from very emotional moments? If anything your comment validated the electrical charge idea a lot more than an afterlife idea."

Ahh, I see what you mean. I thought you meant the ghosts were from OUR future, not their future, as in the person from the past saw them, not the person from the future. I still don't see how electrical consistencies in the brain would cause apparitions though .

Quote: "Jeku, yup i can see thats alien glass! pfft. And I thought you were clever.
LMAO"

Jeez indi, you could have more respect than that. I'm not exactly convinced that it's alien glass either, but I'm not going to attack Jeku about it. It seems like after putting down your mod status you have made harsher and ruder statements, like you're allowed to now that you're no longer a mod.


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