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Geek Culture / Aliens, Ghosts, and Bigfoot

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Agent Dink
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Posted: 3rd Jul 2007 02:47 Edited at: 3rd Jul 2007 02:49
The "alien interview" is some rather old footage. I remember seeing it like 10 years ago. It's probably just someone who wanted to farce an alien video. It doesn't look living to me. There's no sort of movement other than it's head bobbing, which by human body movements doesn't look very realistic. It's a creepy video if it was real, but I doubt it. And yeah, if it's eyes are so sensitive to light why did they shine the flashlight at it

The witch video... aside from it being a classic witch style... seems rather convincing as quite a few people from different places saw similar things that day. I think it would be tough to make something in that shape fly without some form of audible noise. And you have to admit if you saw that thing fly over you'd be weirded out. Actually it reminds me of Yoda on his floating chair in the prequels, lol.

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2007 04:11
Well i really think the "Alien Interview" was real, if you look very closly and listen its neck is connected to the middle of its head not the back, which could explain all the weird movements, btw they where shinning the light into the eyes for the fact that they where checking the eye sockets and nassile passages for something i cant remember the name, its because the alien was sick.

Now also if you take a closer look at the video, you need to be focused on the eyes, as you can see there is something about the eyes that would be very hard to mimic through special effects....
Especially becuase you said you saw it 10 years ago.

Well just to leave off i think the "Alien Interview" was real, the "Alien Aoutpsy" is definently a fake.

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Posted: 3rd Jul 2007 11:22
I think the Alien Interview was real too. Interviews with animatronic heads are just as valid as interviews with living organisms.

As for the witch one, I think I'll need to watch it again. The shape was pretty cool, but it could've been superimposed as you don't really see any turning, which would make the videos more convincing. Could easily be one big hoax with stooges saying they witnessed it (look at anything Derren Brown does for example! )


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Posted: 5th Jul 2007 02:15 Edited at: 5th Jul 2007 04:15
US astronaut Gordon Cooper has come and said he saw a flying saucer when stationed at an air force base, it landed, stayed for a moment then lifted its landing gear and flew off.
even wiki mentions his UFO interest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Cooper
He wrote one book, Leap of Faith (ISBN 0-06-019416-2), which chronicled his experiences with the Air Force and NASA as well as his efforts to expose an alleged UFO conspiracy theory.

Do a search on his name and ufos on you tube or google video, hes not the only astronaut to come out about them.

A former Canadian head of the Ministry of Defense has come out about them, as has a head of MOD from the UK, there are loads of high level whistleblowers on this.

On capturing UFOs on film, the Mexican Government made public the film they had from drug surveillance cameras, these are 1 million a piece, high level cameras, anyway they captured a fleet of them on this and made the film public.

If you want to know about this you just need to do your homework, and don't watch daft terrestrial TV shows on the subject, the mainstream media have no intention of telling you what the world is about period, you pay you taxes and shut your hole and that's it as far as the people that run this place will ever take from you and what you want to know.
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Posted: 5th Jul 2007 03:14
Fallen one, no offense but you seem to need to take off the tin foil. Let me guess, you have a more than adequate lifestyle and income, vote for a liberal party, and think people like michael moore are heroes? You sound like THE stereotypical tin foil hat man...

Evidence on the Ministry of Defenses, any public statements from reliable sources?

UFO fleet video, any high quality evidence of it?


As far as your statements on governments go, your wrong. Very, Very wrong. If that was the case society would be very different. Your little theories would be silenced instantly, as the US gov has control of all domain names, and major parts of the internet, and could easily shut them down therefor.

Its not in their benifit to make us mindless. Society without inovation would lack higher up generals for military operations, rebels that would give the public a common enemy. 1984 is the closest that has come to a reality, and only then for Communist regimes, no democratic country could fall in that place. It would become a fractured state before falling that low because of how socialism and democracy work. Even if the media did what you say they did, people are not sheep yet, enough of them are active to cause panics, rebellion and consistant measures against this state you are speaking of.

Time is ticking away.
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Posted: 5th Jul 2007 04:07 Edited at: 5th Jul 2007 05:50
Now I dont nessasarily agree with this guy but here is what wiki says.
Canadian polititian and Minister for Defense from 1963-1967
Paul Hellyer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hellyer

UFO Fox News Mexican Air Force CNN Headline
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDOOZ_IPb6Y&NR=1

Lord Hill-Norton
United Kindom - Admiral of the Fleet, former Chief of the Defence Staff of the United Kingdom and former Chairman of the NATO Military Committee
wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Hill-Norton

Some great accounts are available on the Disclosure Project for many high level military personal.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1166743665260900218&q=disclosure+project&total=353&start=0&num=100&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

good accounts bar the sergeant who thinks he was present at a crash site.
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Posted: 5th Jul 2007 08:28 Edited at: 5th Jul 2007 08:28
Paul Hellyer sounds like a real yahoo. Is he credible merely because he's a politician? He thinks he saw a UFO one night, and had a UFO spaceship landing pad built in Alberta. I've heard of him, and nobody takes him seriously, especially after accusing the US government of bizarre things (which I won't go into to save this thread).

Nice sources

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Posted: 6th Jul 2007 00:46 Edited at: 6th Jul 2007 00:50
I am not knowledgeable about Paul Hellyer so I cannot comment on him, as I am from the UK and not Canada, but on the landing pad, he didn't have it made, someone else made it and paid for him to go look at it, I believe that was before his interest in UFOs, but I don't really want to get into this guy as there are lots of cases of people that have a high office that are into or have reported UFOs, so I don't need to dwell on just the one person.

This is of interest I believe -
Historical artwork showing UFOs.

web site link showing many images.
http://www.ufoartwork.com/

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Posted: 6th Jul 2007 22:31
Aliens - Yes, even if their just single celled organisms
UFO's - Probably exist, but the pilots either have no interest in our planet (If they can build Space ships why would they?) Or they could be as sceptical about alien life as we are and are just ignoring us because our planet is so different from theirs that they don't think it can support life.
Ghosts - 100% Utter crap in my opinion, death is simply the end of biological function, nothing more to it. You get one life, so live it well is what I think.

Wow...I have to make some serious updates to the list of People/Cultures/Religions that hate me.

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Posted: 6th Jul 2007 23:46 Edited at: 6th Jul 2007 23:53
Quote: "UFO's - Probably exist, but the pilots either have no interest in our planet (If they can build Space ships why would they?) Or they could be as sceptical about alien life as we are and are just ignoring us because our planet is so different from theirs that they don't think it can support life."


How do you know they have no interest in the planet? and how do you know they are ignoring us? is this because they are not on TV doing interviews or making contact like the Vulcan's in that Star Trek movie.

Overt/covert - discus?

Here is a question for you, why don't the scientist introduce themselves to the rats in the laboratory.

Overt/covert - discus?

One life is all you get, life is a cosmic accident theory, most of the general public is a 100 years behind in their scientific viewpoints, most people are still on Victorian materialism.
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Posted: 7th Jul 2007 09:37
Quote: "How do you know they have no interest in the planet? and how do you know they are ignoring us? is this because they are not on TV doing interviews or making contact like the Vulcan's in that Star Trek movie."


Well firstly, that was my opinion and secondly I'm just saying that there is no real evidence of their existance, hence my prediction

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Posted: 7th Jul 2007 16:49
So I take it you didnt bother looking at any of those links I posted then. Or do 4 star Generals testimonials on the Disclosure project mean nothing.

Frankly if there was no other life in the universe it would cause me alarm, considering the sheer size of the universe and the scientific principles that allow for life to evolve here and perfectly reasonable to think it can evolve on any other planet bearing water in liquid form, I would find it rather spookier and more sinister than non terrestrials visiting the planet.

Of course if you are religious perhaps your 'beliefs' don't allow for any other life outside of human beings on this single planet.
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Posted: 7th Jul 2007 19:49
Quote: "Of course if you are religious perhaps your 'beliefs' don't allow for any other life outside of human beings on this single planet."


Not true. If you researched world religions, it's hard to find a single one that completely rules out life on other planets. Let's not bring this thread down ok?

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Posted: 7th Jul 2007 21:20
Exactly, thats the point I was to bring up next, they are not ruled out by religion, but some seem to belive they do.

of note Biblical referance -
Ezekiel’s Wheels :
The Chariots of the Cherubim / The Chariots of God? Also Jacobs lader, plus there are many more.
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Posted: 8th Jul 2007 12:41
Quote: "Frankly if there was no other life in the universe it would cause me alarm"
Of course. As I said at the start of this thread , the sheer logic of it makes it almost impossible not to be true. On the other hand the same logic makes the same thing true of life beyond this planet travelling here. What makes that even more unbelievably unlikely is anything coming here while *you* are alive. Pure maths. Not impossible, and could happen tomorrow, or yesterday, or 10 million years ago, but you personally (and everyone currently on the planet) witnessing such a thing is very remote.

As to people believing things, well so? People believe a lot of amazing things. Billions of them. Plus it is always nice when such a belief brings in some cash. Crop circle experts who write books about it anyone? And why does bringing up examples from years ago make it more credible? Personally I find those examples much less credible. At least these days we are supposed to be educated. Simple slight of hand tricks would probably have made me some kind of infamous wizard a few short centuries ago (hell, look how they loved magic tricks as if they were real even a hundred years ago or so). Who knows what would have happened if someone wrote my achievements down?

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Posted: 8th Jul 2007 16:34
fallen one, I'm an Atheist and proud of it, I wil say no more for fear of killing this thread.

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