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james hardy
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Is just reproducing the point of life as when you die you leave everything behind.
And even if it was wat is the point of it all becouse the world will eventually END.

As the population grows and grows there wont be enough resources will there, and the world will be full of humans witout meaning.


so why?????
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Procreation is pollution. Humanity is the scourge of the planet. We're like a stain on the face of the earth. We destroy everything we come into contact with. We are one of the few animals that kill for sport. We wipe out entire species just so that we can have more arable farmland. I actually hate the entire race. I was trying to start a petition for forced sterilisation for everyone in the world. I couldn't find many people to join though. I even started working on a big old plan of shutting everything down first...

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The meaning of life is to achieve your full potensial, be all that you can be, replicate and be nice to your fellow humanoid.

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A friend of mine and I once submitted a petition for forced abortion in order to reduce traffic jams, pedophilia, crime numbers, food shortages ect. ect. to kick some fuss. Was quite fun, actually.

This is a discussion that'll end up outside the AUP. I prefer a lock.


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james hardy
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they say human race is the most intelligent animal
but are they i dont see monkeys or ants killing each other in wars maybe to survive against diffrent colnys in territory but not pointless nuclear bombs and stuff
and it is the human race that is going too self destruct so we must not be that clever.
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dont confuse raw intelligence with sanity

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Ants are vicious man. It's just that most animals have a place in the food chain. Humans don't really. We generally just kill.

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The concept of a "point" to life is ill defined.

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james hardy
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Posted: 13th Oct 2007 18:46
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surly there is better more rerasons not sum random pattern of matter pilled together to form us
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That's what I said. This is gonna end up outside the AUP. Far too connected with religious/non-religious views of life.


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Posted: 13th Oct 2007 18:49
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ye i guess it aint really geek chat is it
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Posted: 13th Oct 2007 18:49 Edited at: 13th Oct 2007 18:51
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If you're religious then there's a point to life. I wish I had something like that to believe in. Unfortunately, like so many people, I'm just filling the time and waiting to die. I'm one of the "mediocrities everywhere" from the end of Amadeus; never achieving anything, and resigned to this fact.

The point of life is life itself. There's nothing else. We create distractions to try and deny ourselves this fact but it's all a facade.


EDIT: Sorry I'm going to stop posting on this if it's heading away from what we're allowed to talk about.

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Posted: 13th Oct 2007 18:52 Edited at: 13th Oct 2007 18:53
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if i knew that there was another life then that would give a better cocept and worthy of life

ye it is a bit too philosophical
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@demons breath:
You sound quite literate (in the knowledge way of the word), you know . But I think it's good that you explained both those unjoinable paths in such a respecting and mature manner. You don't see that often.


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why thank you tr

but yeah I think this post should just be allowed to die before anyone gets into a huge religious argument.

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As long as people dont inject their personal religious beliefs (whatever they may be) into the thread, theres no reason why it would get locked in that regard.

lets see how long that lasts.

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Well, but how can I express my opinion on this if my view on this is religious?


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The point of life, human at least, is to ask the question "What is the point of life". congrats you have succeeded. The reproducing thing is just a side benefit .

Don't worry about humans as a scourge we are methodically killing off our own gene pool. Many people who are intelligent, concious etc have decided they don't want to bring a child into today's world, where as those who might rub two sticks together to make a ham sandwich have kids by the boatload (what a bright future we have).

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There is no point in life. However, I will continue to enjoy food, beer, sex and other forms of entertainment until my ultimate demise.

We humans do love to find reason in everything, even when there is none. Life is one of them, imo. We are but robots that are self aware, and are afraid to turn off the switch for fear of what lies beyond. And it's only fear that drives us to ask why we're here, in the hope the answer will dispell the fear.


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Quote: "Many people who are intelligent, concious etc have decided they don't want to bring a child into today's world, where as those who might rub two sticks together to make a ham sandwich have kids by the boatload (what a bright future we have)."


What a dumb load of crap this is. yes! people that are able to think dont want to bring kids into this world (uhh, why exactly?) and only the stupid people are reproducing like animals. What exactly are you basing this statement on?

How in the hell can you say something like this?


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Pfft, how many times must it be said, the meaning of life, and indeed everything, is 42!

Really though, there really is no meaning of life other then what you can come up with on your own. I think its utter bull when someone says everyone has their purpose on this earth. Let's face it, serial killers didn't exactly have a purpose, or a good one anyway.

In the end, we are born, we live life as best we can, and then we die, end of story. What you think happens before or after is up to whatever religion you prescribe to. Just remember, even if we don't have a set meaning of life from the start, does NOT mean we have no meaning at all. In fact, what fun would it be if we were all assigned a purpose when we were born?


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I am religious.

To me the meaning of life is to find a wife to truely love and make her happy, have a family and bring my children up in the best way possible.

You should live your life to make others happy.

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Quote: "serial killers didn't exactly have a purpose"


yes they did. Serial killers are some of the most driven people around. They do what they believe in and what they enjoy instead of trying to fit in. Their purpose may not generally be that popular, but they have the sense of drive that so many people lack.

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Quote: "What a dumb load of crap this is. yes! people that are able to think dont want to bring kids into this world (uhh, why exactly?) and only the stupid people are reproducing like animals. What exactly are you basing this statement on? "


Well here in the US it started with the DINK's (double income no kids), alot of people want to wait until they are financially secure before having children if ever. For others more kids means a bigger government check thus more kids. Granted I base this on mostly personal observation, but I am well aware I am not alone in this thought and have in the past read articles talking about this exact thing. Not every country is the same of course I have no idea what people in France, England, or Batswana are doing. Just my opinion take it as you wish.

Edit: Quite true demon

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Demon's breath, try to pretend for one moment that you don't know all the answers to life and the universe. "Humans" don't kill for sport, some people do, and then there are the sane ones who don't. The main thing that humanity has is choice, that's why we're here.


You are not outside of the human race just because you say you hate it. It's incredibly pretentious.

That's not as bad as you think you said.
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No matter how much you enjoy your life, logically there is no point to it. There's no point to anything. Government and corporations create the world we're born into and then force us down that narrow path for the next 80-odd years. You go to school to get a job, you get a job to make money, you make money to tread further down that pre-determined route that your brainwashed into believing is "happiness." If you try to break off this path, you have the invisible wall that is law and "justice" forcing you down that road. If you ask me, the only people who have apoint in life are the ones that make their own path- be they anarchists, the homeless, tribesmen or even terrorists. They may not be the best paths to follow, but atleast that's their own path to tread. What's interesting is how the animal kingdom is allowed the freedom to hunt and breed and live to their desire. If humans weren't so confined, we wouldn't establish what's currently defined as "society." We would live our own lives, our own paths and stop any government or corporation; or other life-controlling superpower, that tries to divert our course!

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Sounds quite Nietzsche.


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There is no answer to life.

We just live.

Whatever path you chose to receive your answers, science or religion, is up to you.

In the end, the ultimate question is; who made everything?

Religion says god, science says the big bang.

But my theory; does it have to be made?


Why is it that there has to be a "maker" or "cause" that created everything?


It's quite simple.


There is no an answer.
No one made us.
Nothing made everything.
We are just here.

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i'm a sappy old bastard so i think the meaning of life is to love.

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The question is...is there a meaning of life? I mean some say yes, some say no. Reproduction is a part of our life - but I don't think that's why we exist. As to why we exist it's a debate religion, philosophers and scientists have argued for 1000's of years. There is never a conclusive answer.

If you want to know what I think - I think the purpose of life is what you make it out to be and I think that should be to seek true happiness (not the materialistic happiness, because really that's seeking pleasure - getting rich as an example doesn't make you happy, though you think it does when you are rich). The reason why we live, well then I don't know why we live and I don't think it matters as we do live and should think more about things that matter. If I had to answer the question 'why do we exist?' I'd draw something from the cosmological argument - we came from a series of causes and effects - one thing causes another and so on - when we grew intelligence as multicellular organisms what we did had a cause and effect on our genes and evolution until we just adapted and adapted to our environment and new needs that we became the beings we are today...but how matter, space and energy came into existence - I believe it has always been there, you know the only unlimited thing in the universe.

Of course, with this discussion, you need to be careful, philosophy can easily roll into the topics of religious debate...and as I am a Buddhist and my thoughts are influenced by that I had to be very careful with my reasons for what I think - I kept to the philosophies I've gained rather than the religious beliefs in what I said. If that makes sense.

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from a purely biological perspective yes.
If you want my view on it, Im pretty sure our purpose is to bring about the destrcution of the world slowly and painfully to other creatures.

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The point of life is to reproduce. Anything else you do is just a bonus.

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The purpose in life is to gain control over the Allspark. All hail Megatron.


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Life is chemical equilibrium and reproduction. The concept of life is really simple. One day I stopped to write some hours of thoughts on paper. My conclusion is that we could stop thinking of that. Existence is absurd. We reach a limit, get frustrated and create the comfort.

There is no actual point. Life is a nonsense, actually. But we exist, and we are intelligent enough to create points. So we may do what we have to do to be happy. Wear pants and do the well to people.

Cheers.

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OK, we have had creationism, evolution, religion and politics. It has covered 4 banned items in the AUP, so I'm afraid it has to be locked before people cry when they don't get to respond to an outlandish remark - which is inevitable.

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