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Dan the man
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Posted: 14th Nov 2007 23:35 Edited at: 2nd Dec 2007 03:47
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Hi, is there any website builders thats cost little money and has a donation button?

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Jess T
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Posted: 15th Nov 2007 00:24
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Ha.

No.

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tha_rami
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Posted: 15th Nov 2007 00:41
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Let me side with Jess T here, but exaggerate.

Ha.
Ha.
Ha.

No.

Seriously though: No.


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Agent Dink
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Posted: 15th Nov 2007 02:07
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Yes, it's called notepad! And it doesn't even have a donation button! If you have windows its FREE.

Seriously though, ask your question with a little more thought. There are plenty of free programs capable of building websites, but most of them require some knowledge of web programming. I don't know of any point and click site builders that are free, so you will have to use Google.

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Keo C
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Posted: 15th Nov 2007 02:18
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Nvu.


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Robert F
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Posted: 15th Nov 2007 02:38
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Personally I dont really like the website builders because most of the time they dont have all the features and stuff that you want. If you really want I could probably make a website for you pretty quick. Just email me at fitzgibbon4957@yahoo.com if you interested. It wont be the best ever but its something. No Flash though or I want Pay.

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tha_rami
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Posted: 15th Nov 2007 04:25
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Hey Robert. I would be interested in that offer. Just need a PHP/ASP database CMS site with available templates for each page. I need it to be futuristic, layed out totally in CSS (no tables please) and with all sorts of cool stuff on it. No Flash, I don't wan't to pay.


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Corky
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Quote: "Hey Robert. I would be interested in that offer. Just need a PHP/ASP database CMS site with available templates for each page. I need it to be futuristic, layed out totally in CSS (no tables please) and with all sorts of cool stuff on it. No Flash, I don't wan't to pay."


You know what im just going to take back my offer, unless you want it to take a while.

See i was just thinking he was just going to want a simple html site, but i wasn't really sure at the same time.

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Keo C
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Posted: 15th Nov 2007 05:12
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You know what im just going to take back my offer, unless you want it to take a while."

And you are?


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tha_rami
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Posted: 15th Nov 2007 05:56
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They're the same person, it appears. They share the same e-mail address. It appears as if Corky is Robert F's sadistic puppet.


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Megaton Cat
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Posted: 15th Nov 2007 06:18
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Get Dreamweaver if you're not a coder.

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Insert Name Here
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Posted: 15th Nov 2007 21:21
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Quote: "They're the same person, it appears. They share the same e-mail address. It appears as if Corky is Robert F's sadistic puppet.
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Dear dear, ban and noobslap is what happened last time this happened.


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tha_rami
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Posted: 15th Nov 2007 22:36
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Listen to Aikicat. Fork out $400 for Dreamweaver.


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Corky
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Posted: 16th Nov 2007 04:16 Edited at: 16th Nov 2007 04:18
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Quote: "It appears as if Corky is Robert F's sadistic puppet."


I dont know why but that just made me laugh really hard.

I made a thread about why I changed my name, they understood, then I told them to lock it but they just deleted it.

$400 is just a little to much for this sadistic puppet here.

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Posted: 16th Nov 2007 04:22
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Heh, no problem if you changed your name, just avoid using both profiles. Can lead to painful things like above.

The $400 comment was sarcastic. Dreamweaver is too expensive for most of us, honestly.


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Keo C
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Posted: 16th Nov 2007 04:27 Edited at: 16th Nov 2007 04:31
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I would prefer Nvu if I wanted a WYSIWYG, Bluefish Editor for regular coding. Both free. Bluefish is Linux only, but Nvu has cross-platform bins.


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Posted: 16th Nov 2007 20:25
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I just got Dreamweaver free from my IT teacher...


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Corky
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Posted: 16th Nov 2007 20:49
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Quote: "I just got Dreamweaver free from my IT teacher..."


Lucky!

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Insert Name Here
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Posted: 16th Nov 2007 20:55
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Yup... except my RAM couldn't take it.
Ah well, I will settle for both Flash and Premiere.
(I was offered Photoshop and Dreamweaver as well)!


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Corky
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Posted: 16th Nov 2007 21:00
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How much RAM do you have?

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Posted: 16th Nov 2007 22:40
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Too little.


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Keo C
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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 00:40
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Quote: "Too little."

Let me guess ummm 128 MB?


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Deathead
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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 00:55
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Well seeming as INH is always random I'm guessing he has 1mb and the rest is just Random ideas to post on the forum. Joking.
ANYWAYs... Dreamweaver is too expensive like alot of people are saying. But I'm guessing its worth it.

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bitJericho
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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 01:02
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INH, I got a couple untested sticks of DDR 333 (PC 2700), I think they're 256mb each, I have no idea what to do with them, (most systems need at least ddr 400). But if you're running at a 533fsb you should find it useful

I wouldn't charge you anything for em (unless you wanna do a trade for some of that software), if you want em I can post em to you from out here in the states, just let me know.


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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 01:08
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For all those wanting to make a website in Notepad here is a good tut to get you started...
http://www.pagetutor.com/html_tutor/lesson01.html

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bitJericho
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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 01:18
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Ugh, who uses notepad to script or program? At least use notepad++ so you got some syntax highlighting :o)


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Keo C
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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 01:43
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Or Bluefish


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Corky
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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 03:13 Edited at: 17th Nov 2007 03:14
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Quote: "notepad++"


thats real?

Edit: Im downloading it right now

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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 03:47
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PSPad is a nice tool for web design in Windows. Provides syntax highlighting for quite a few languages. It doesn't have much in the way of drag and drop, but it's awesome for hand coding stuff.

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Corky
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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 03:59
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Wow, I never knew about all this. I thought I was going to have to use notepad forever.

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tha_rami
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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 05:00
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I never had problems with notepad, honestly. Still use it, lol - I just don't make mistakes. Much easier.


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Jeku
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In fact I have never met someone in person who uses Notepad for their websites. What a waste of time. PSPad, as has been mentioned, is a pretty good text editor. A good editor has things we take for granted--- syntax highlighting, auto-indenting, etc.

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tha_rami
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Heh, nope. I still use Notepad. I don't know why - I do my PHP and the like in external editors, but I just never got used to anything else than Notepad for websites. Maybe I oughta try again.


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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 11:18
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Quote: "I wouldn't charge you anything for em (unless you wanna do a trade for some of that software), if you want em I can post em to you from out here in the states, just let me know."

That'd be really nice of you, but sadly we're updating our RAm, sort of really soon anyway. Thanks though.
Quote: "In fact I have never met someone in person who uses Notepad for their websites."

I do, simply because it is better than frontpage, and I can't be bothered to get anything better.


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Tom J
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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 14:54
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Quote: "In fact I have never met someone in person who uses Notepad for their websites"


So do I and I am quite proud of the site I have managed to contstruct, so for me the other programs mention don't give me that big an advantage.

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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 20:27
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You guys are missing my point entirely, but whatever

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tha_rami
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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 21:06
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We should meet in person, Jeku. You'll have met one person who codes his websites in Notepad.


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Posted: 17th Nov 2007 23:11
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Yes, and myself, and Tom over there.


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Jeku
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Posted: 18th Nov 2007 00:47
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Like I said, you guys missed my point entirely. But honestly that doesn't matter

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Posted: 18th Nov 2007 01:52 Edited at: 18th Nov 2007 01:52
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Hehe, I'm just joking with ya. We all understand it was about the last part of the message...


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Also if this wasn't mentioned before Netscape navigator has an okay designer built in. But I really like Microsoft's one (I forget the name).


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Dan the man
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Posted: 30th Nov 2007 04:01 Edited at: 2nd Dec 2007 18:20
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Wtf happened to this thread?

Who are you and why are you here?
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Posted: 30th Nov 2007 10:13
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Something you should read if you want to gain any information.
Not just be lazy.
Bye.


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Posted: 30th Nov 2007 15:32 Edited at: 30th Nov 2007 15:33
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I was asked a similar question about free Web page editors a while ago. This is what I sent to them but I am not sure if the links or products are still active:
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One which has received very good reviews is called NVU. It was written as a free alternative to DreamWeaver I believe and has a lot of the same features. Check out their Web site here:
http://nvu.com/index.html
I haven't tried it myself yet but there are lots of people saying it is stable and reliable and has features missing in both Frontpage and DreamWeaver. Definately worth a look at.

There is an unofficial spin-off version of NVU called KompoZer which they say has some bugs fixed and other features added. If you have problems with NVU or like it but want more features, you can try this one:
http://www.kompozer.net
(Make sure you download the file marked 'Win32 binary' or you could end up with a pile of source code!)

SeaMonkey is apparently quite good too. Its from the people behind the FireFox Web browser (Mozilla). I think its a much more up to date version of an old Web page editor I used long ago called Composer which was part of Netscape. Its supposed to be similar to a Word Processor to use so should be pretty easy. Plus, as with most Mozilla products, I think there are lots of free plugins to do extra stuff if you need them. You can get it and find out more here:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/

Another freeware Web editor is Trellian WebPage. Again, I haven't used it myself but it looks okay and has interesting tools built in. It does come from a commercial company so even though they say its free, be aware they may try and sell you other products.
http://www.trellian.com/webpage/


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Posted: 1st Dec 2007 05:30
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Quote: "In fact I have never met someone in person who uses Notepad for their websites. What a waste of time."


I do all my php in notepad.


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Jeku
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Posted: 1st Dec 2007 11:04
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Quote: "I do all my php in notepad."


That just doesn't make sense, to be blunt. For one thing, indenting is a hassle in Notepad. Also, there's nothing built-in, i.e. FTP, etc. Using Notepad to make a website doesn't prove anything more than you're a masochist

I'm all for no-nonsense text editors too, but there's tons of free text editors that are actually usable.

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Posted: 1st Dec 2007 14:35 Edited at: 1st Dec 2007 14:36
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Quote: "Also, there's nothing built-in, i.e. FTP"

Which doesn't matter when you're testing on the local machine.

I can do PHP in notepad up until the point that I need line numbers. I find Notepad++ more useful for this reason and that it doesn't mess up line breaks like notepad does.

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Quote: "Which doesn't matter when you're testing on the local machine."


Which I don't do I'm not interested in installing PHP or ASP.NET on my local machine.

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Posted: 1st Dec 2007 22:01 Edited at: 1st Dec 2007 22:04
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IMO it's not really that much more effort than installing a text editor, as long as you find an installer that does it all for you. It saves having to upload the page every time you edit it, which is especially nice if you don't have internet access. To each his own I guess.

Quote: "I'm not interested in installing PHP or ASP.NET on my local machine."

I'm not interested in your opinion.

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Quote: "It saves having to upload the page every time you edit it"


Not particularly painful to do so when your editor does it automatically on a page change:o)

I'm one to make updates on the fly, so having an editor update the server for me is nice. Of course, most people would argue that that's bad practice.

Still, it'd be like coding in darkbasic or c or java or whatever in notepad. It makes no sense when you can use an editor that offers syntax highlighting, code completion, syntax lookup, etc etc.

In college they tried to pull that notepad junk on us students.. I chose to download and use an editor, press f5 and it automatically executed the script, now that was handy, compared to everyone else using notepad.

They'd all look at me jealous when they saw how I was coding


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