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Markswii
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 10:00 Edited at: 26th Nov 2007 04:39
Ok My name is Mark Tilton and I program in Dark Basic Professional. I really have no clue why I got into doing what I do. My parents know nothing about programming or computers in general. I am hoping to get a carreer in game programming.

I was thinking the other day about this and I was wondering how many people are like me.


How old where you when you started programming?
I was 13
How old are you now?
[age removed]
Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
nope
Did you want to program when you grew up?
yes

Ok so I heard what you guys are saying and I started wondering a few more things.

What did you want to do as a programmer?
Game Programing

Did you succeed?
Don't know yet :p

Did you or are you going to college
Keep my grades up =)

I have one more question for you loyal posters.
I am trying to teach my 11 year old brother dark basic but all he wants to do is play video games all day. Am I wasting my time?

If you would like to talk to my brother his name is 50sonic

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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 10:11
Unless you are 18 years of age or older, it is not a wise idea to post your age on the internet.

Mark, I have removed your age from your post.

To answer your questions...
1. 12 or 13, I think - DB was my first proper language (HTML doesn't count)
2. 20 - just about to start my Honors Year at Uni for a Games Programming course
3. Hell no. My parents have trouble finding the on/off button.
4. Hell yes. It's the most stimulating thing I'd done till I moved to Uni

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tha_rami
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 10:43
1. 8 years old. Started with a textadventure.
2. 19. Starting a course Game Architecture and Design next year.
3. No.
4. Never imagined a future without computers for me.


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Zombie 20
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 11:01 Edited at: 25th Nov 2007 12:29
How old where you when you started programming?
16, the old TI's

How old are you now?
20

Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
Nope, but they both program too

Did you want to program when you grew up?
Hell yes, been talking about it since I was 12

Zombie


What did you want to do as a programmer?
Game Programing

Did you succeed?
In game progging? Hell ya..

Did you or are you going to college
Accepted, just no money which bites the well you know


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Dazzag
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 12:12 Edited at: 25th Nov 2007 12:12
Quote: "How old where you when you started programming?"
I was 10 I think (ZX Spectrum). My dad made me read the whole manual (basically a BASIC programming book) before playing any of the games. Preferred programming to playing the actual games. Although Harrier Attack was tops
Quote: "How old are you now?"
34
Quote: "Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?"
No. Although my dad used to help me type in those massive listings from magazines that never used to work. Couldn't help me with the code though.
Quote: "Did you want to program when you grew up?"
Yes, absolutely nothing else from when I was 10 till now.

Quote: "What did you want to do as a programmer?"
Game Programing obviously. Failing that some kind of military simulator.

Quote: "Did you succeed?"
Nope. I program travel systems. I'm not that bothered though as I'm guessing most game programming would be tedious as hell. Saying that, an old mate from Uni is a tech director at EA now and he seems as happy as hell (just finished the Simpsons game). Missed the military simulators by one building Did had to sign the official secrets act for submarine sonar stuff though (not that I got the job...).

Quote: "Did you or are you going to college"
Yes, I went to University to do a CompSci BSc.

Cheers

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Grandma
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 12:14 Edited at: 25th Nov 2007 12:15
How old where you when you started programming?
17

How old are you now?
21

Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
No, they were counter-productive infact.

Did you want to program when you grew up?
No

What did you want to do as a programmer?
Game Programing

Did you succeed?
Yes

Did you or are you going to college?
No

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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 12:31 Edited at: 25th Nov 2007 12:33
How old where you when you started programming?
12
How old are you now?
>12.
Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
No
Did you want to program when you grew up?
Yes. And can we change that 'did' to 'do'?

What did you want to do as a programmer?
Game Programing

Did you succeed?
I have no idea. Did I?

Did you or are you going to college
Nay.


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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 12:31 Edited at: 25th Nov 2007 17:33
How old where you when you started programming?
I was 14 (Dark Basic Classic)
How old are you now?
18
Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
no
Did you want to program when you grew up?
No

What did you want to do as a programmer?
Game Programing

Did you succeed?
Getting there

Did you or are you going to college
I am currently studying at University (Nothing programming related)

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Blobby 101
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 12:33
How old where you when you started programming?
i think about 10

How old are you now?
can't post this but not much older.

Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
No, not in the foggiest - both my parents are technophobes!

Did you want to program when you grew up?
yes

What did you want to do as a programmer?
Game Programing

Did you succeed?
well, who knows

Did you or are you going to college?
i will go (hopefully) but not sure what course i'll take - most likely something in programming.


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dark donkey
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 13:33
How old where you when you started programming?
Between 8-10 i dont rember.

How old are you now?

Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
Hell no. All my fammily thought i was insane for wanting to program

Did you want to program when you grew up?
Sort of i wanted to make games but didnt know how


What did you want to do as a programmer?
Game Programing

Did you succeed?
No idea lets wait and see

Did you or are you going to college
Id hope to
MonoCoder
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 13:39
How old was I? about 13.
Taught by Parents? No, fathom it they cannot.
Aspirations of programming? Not really, but hell it's fun.
What do? Game programming.
Succeeded? Crystal ball says "dunno".
Colleging? Yeah.

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David R
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 13:50 Edited at: 25th Nov 2007 13:50
1. 9

2. 16 (If I can fight in battle for my country, get married with consent, and have sex, I'm pretty certain I'm ok to put my age here )

3. Definitely not; my mum works in insurance and my dad is a gardener

4. Not initially. Got bored of the limited games I had, and set about trying to find out how they worked / how they were made. It led me to coding, and now I'm pretty much obsessed with coding - so yeah, I definitely have aspirations now, but not initially I didn't

Amazing how one thing/decision can have a massive effect - if I had had tons of games to play back then, I probably would of never of investigated how they were made...

5. Well, game programming mainly.

6. Magic eight ball says "The future is uncertain"

7. Not sure of the UK equiv. of college/how it fits in, but I'm in secondary school in sixth form, doing AS level physics, computing, history and theatre studies.


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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 13:56 Edited at: 25th Nov 2007 14:04
1. 7 (gamemaker)
2. [Age Removed] (DBPro but learning C++)
3. no
4. yes (still do)
5. Games
6. Yes
7. Yes

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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 14:05
Seriously Kaedroho, I wasn't kidding about posting your age.

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Jeff032
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 14:13 Edited at: 25th Nov 2007 14:13
How old where you when you started programming?
9 (QBASIC->ZQuest->Gamemaker->Java & DarkBASIC & C#)

How old are you now?
>9

Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
I taught myself mainly, my dad helped a bit

Did you want to program when you grew up?
yes

What did you want to do as a programmer?
Game Programming

Did you succeed?
not sure yet

Did you or are you going to college?
yes

Jonny_S
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 15:23
How old where you when you started programming?
12-ish yabasic on my ps2 XD

How old are you now?
19

Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
Nop

Did you want to program when you grew up?
yes

What did you want to do as a programmer?
Game programming when I was younger, now probably web development.

Did you succeed?
Come back in 2 years and ask me :p

Did you or are you going to college?
yep

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Peter H
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 16:09
How old where you when you started programming?
13 (QBasic)

How old are you now?
18

Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
my dad showed me how flow charts work but that's it.

Did you want to program when you grew up?
not as a job, so no.

What did you want to do as a programmer?
Game programming as a hobby

Did you succeed?
yes

Did you or are you going to college
currently attending

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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 16:15
Quote: "2. 16 (If I can fight in battle for my country, get married with consent, and have sex, I'm pretty certain I'm ok to put my age here )"


Before my knee injury I was going to join tha army... i was on a train and wanted a beer... they asked for ID and i said i didn't have any... I then said "Im only 17, (legal age is 19) but i'm joining the army" they said "You aren't old enough" and i replied with "I'm old enough to go and die to protect your freedom, so that you can deny me a drink! and you are still going to DENY me a drink???" haha she gave me the beer for free...


How old where you when you started programming?
10... I wrote cog scripts for JEDI KNIGHT DARK FORCES 2... haha people hated me because bacta tanks didn't heal me, they allowed me to walk on walls! (anyone who "plays" that game, u just change the healing line to setPhysicsFlags(0x30))

How old are you now?
19

Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
No... dont have a dad, and mom would be lucky if she managed to turn the PC on

Did you want to program when you grew up?
No, I prefer game design...

What did you want to do as a programmer?
I really just want to be able to understand roughly what code does when I look at it so that way if i get my dream game design job, I can do it more effectively

Did you succeed?
Well so far I can understand Java! DB is just more for a creative outlet... C++ is what ill most likely need to be able to read and understand... come back when im done school and ask me again :-p

Did you or are you going to college?
International ACademy of Design and Technology - Video Game Design and Development in January 2009 (since i can't get OSAP *financial aid* until then)
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 17:41
Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?

No. I started programming when my parents broke up.. And i got kinda depressed and because i was always intrested in technology i started programing. I first started with C# then tried some c++ but i was still back then bit confused and i found Dark Basic

Tough now i program with C#/C++ on DS and C++ with DGK Libs on PC and of course with Dark Basic Pro! Im never gonna let out it!

Did you want to program when you grew up?

No. Never really thinked about it..
Actually i wanted to become Football player or Business man..

What did you want to do as a programmer?

I would really like to make something big someday! And not only as programmer.. I want to learn to be good 3d Artist aswell.

Did you succeed?

How did i succeed? Well i learned programming i succeed on that..
With finished game? No.
My projects are usually pretty big ones so i think someday i froze Flare Engine for a bit and finish one little project so i can keep the 'succeed' title.

Did you or are you going to college

Thinking about it.. But i betcha that i cant even get there


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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 17:44
What did you want to do as a programmer?
Hah, Game Programming. I'm starting to tend towards the visual artist direction, though.

Did you succeed?
Sort of. I've proven myself to be a teams' person and capable of delivering my stuff. Nothing big yet, though.

Did you or are you going to college
Question makes no sense.


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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 17:52
1. 14 (Freshman year of high school)
2. Well I'm really close to being able to put my age here
3. My dad taught me how to use a computer, but beyond some basic stuff no
4. Of course I do
5. Game programming
6. Still working on it
7. I'm going to college next year. So far I have received an admissions notice from University of North Carolina Charlotte, majoring in computer science.

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@Antidote: Hahaha, briliant answer to question 2.


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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 18:14 Edited at: 25th Nov 2007 18:16
How old where you when you started programming?
8. Gave cpp a quick try, but that was not for me back then. So I started with Flash, actually.

How old are you now?
19.

Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
No.

Did you want to program when you grew up?
Yes. It is one third of my fix job.

What did you want to do as a programmer?
Designer and programmer of games.

Did you succeed?
Yes.

Did you or are you going to college
No. [If you mean programming college, of course. Be more specific.]

Kevin Picone
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 18:36
How old where you when you started programming?

12/13


How old are you now?

37


Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?

I only really got interested in computers when my sister returned home for the summer in 1983. She'd just completed her first year teaching maths/physics and computer science. While home, she got an Apple IIe compatible. I ended up tinkering with it most of that summer (I had no option really, since I was bed ridden for most of the time). Soon got tired of Falcons and some odd tidbits and wanted to make my own games, so she handed me a book on Basic and that was about it.


Did you want to program when you grew up?

Only when I was a teenager.


What did you want to do as a programmer?

Write things that interest me


Did you succeed?

Some times.


Did you or are you going to college

Nope.

Raven
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 19:23
How old where you when you started programming?
I was 4years old on an Acorn Electron

How old are you now?
25

Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
My parents didn't believe in teaching by showing, but rather explaining something then letting me figure out how to put it into practise

Did you want to program when you grew up?
Yes, and no. I've always wanted to program, but was never particularly good at it. So instead I got in to art.

What did you want to do as a programmer?
I'm happy doing anything that requires me to think of a creative solution. This is why I find programming for games more interesting and capable of keeping my attention as it is an ever changing industry.

Did you succeed?
No, and yes.
The company I currently work for I am officially an Artist, however due to the size of the team I work on often we do jobs that we have the skills for. As such I have done a little bit of programming, I'm currently putting together a portfolio to re-apply for an actual programming position in another team.

Did you or are you going to college
I have been to College and University, although the only qualification I have that is remotely related to the game development industry is an Advanced GNVQ in Information Technology.

When I went to University I decided to focus on Mathematics and Physics, as many members of my family believed firmly and told me often that software development was a pipedream and not a real job.

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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 19:30 Edited at: 25th Nov 2007 19:36
How old where you when you started programming?
12 or 13

How old are you now?
To quote from Antidote:
Quote: "Well I'm really close to being able to put my age here"


Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
Nope, I taught myself and learned from the forums.

Did you want to program when you grew up?
Yeah, I designed games since I was about 9 or 10.

What did you want to do as a programmer?
Programmer and designer.

Did you succeed?
Depends on your definition of success, but I would say yes so far I have.

Did you or are you going to college?
Yeah, I was just accepted into Baylor University and the Computer Science & Engineering Living-Learning Center (Dorm) and am going to do the Computer Science Gaming Track. Can you tell I'm excited?


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Can I just say:
Quote: "Smart Parents"

Nope.


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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 19:45 Edited at: 25th Nov 2007 19:45
How old where you when you started programming?
13

How old are you now?
22

Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
My parents teaching me about anything computer related..? HAHAHAHA!

Did you want to program when you grew up?
Yep.

What did you want to do as a programmer?
Game programming, ofcourse.

Did you succeed?
Not old enough to give a past tense answer here. :p

Did you or are you going to college?
I'm a student, at least.
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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 20:30
How old where you when you started programming?

I was 7

How old are you now?

27

Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?

My dad originally introduced me to simple BASIC commands on the Commodore 64.

Did you want to program when you grew up?

yes

What did you want to do as a programmer?

Game Programing

Did you succeed?

Yes in that I program games for a living, but no in that I'd rather be working on other games

Did you or are you going to college

Pretty much had to--- yes.

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Posted: 25th Nov 2007 21:21 Edited at: 25th Nov 2007 21:21
How old where you when you started programming?
12, I think.

How old are you now?
<18

Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you
Nope.

Do you want to program when you grow up?
Ya, either that or game artist.

What do you want to do as a programmer?
Game Programming, or possibly Physics Programming.

Did you succeed?
Don't know yet.

Are you going to college?
I hope.

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1) About 8
2) Lets just say over 30
3) No
4) Yes (either program or something art related)
5) Applications and games
6) Yes (and managed to combine both programming and art in my career)
7) Yes I did (and have taught at College)
8) You can't teach someone who doesn't want to learn. You will both end up frustrated. One day your brother may want to know how something in one of his games actually works, or may like something you have made and wonder how it was done. Then you can spread your knowledge


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Quote: "How old where you when you started programming?"

I was about 4 or 5 years old, although I was just copying lines from a book. Probably 7 when I wrote my first unique code.

Quote: "How old are you now?"

27

Quote: "Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?"

My dad worked for IBM, so he brought home books about programming all of the time. But other than that, I pretty much taught myself, as did my older brother and my best friend.

Quote: "Did you want to program when you grew up?"

It was a toss-up... I had to be either a game designer and director, or a rock star. The rock star thing didn't pan out, so here I am, lol

Quote: "What did you want to do as a programmer?"

Make games that people enjoy, and start my own self-publishing indie game studio

Quote: "Did you succeed?"

To certain degrees. I've made games that some people enjoy, all self-published... I wouldn't say it's a success-story just yet.

Quote: "Did you or are you going to college"

yeppers, not for anything related to game dev though (well, not directly anyway)

Quote: "I am trying to teach my 11 year old brother dark basic but all he wants to do is play video games all day. Am I wasting my time?"

Maybe being a programmer isn't in the cards for him. See if he's interested in modeling, or drawing... maybe even quality assurance as a tester .

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Posted: 26th Nov 2007 02:58
Quote: "How old where you when you started programming?"

about 9 or 10, on the Atari 400 "computer" in Atari BASIC

Quote: "How old are you now?"

bloddy hell, dont remind me (mid to late thirties, ok.)

Quote: "Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?"

Not per se. My parents bought the computer and were trying to learn Basic for some reason Then I came along, took over, and they got bored and went away - back to whatever they found interesting at the time.

Quote: "Did you want to program when you grew up?"

After getting completely hooked on that machine, and writing small silly programs, and eventually some nifty little games, yes, I wanted to be a programmer. At around 14 I found girls, music, and various controlled substances, and sorta fell out of coding until I was around 20 or so. I t was always in the back of my mind, but I used that time period to become fairly decent on 4 musical instruments (Drums, Guitar, Bass Guitar, and some Keys). The absense from coding during that period was good for two reasons: 1)I became a decent musician and learned a heck of a lot about music etc, and 2)I bypassed the sucky computers (ie 286, 386) lol. C'mon we all know things didnt get serious until the 486 cpu and the game "The 7th Guest" came along -haha

Quote: "What did you want to do as a programmer?"

Make video games, of course! But other things interested me too, modems and connecting to other machines was a unrealised fascination at that time.

Quote: "Did you succeed?"

Yes and no. Today I am a professional software developer, but I write applications and utilities, not games. But game programming is still a hobby of mine. And these days, a good game from a small group of dedicated people can get you places in a big way. Google: Nabacular Drop, as one example For the past 5 years I have been lucky enough to be a self employed freelance software developer, where I take contract work from companies, but we skip all the W2 and insurance bs. They pay me an hourly rate in full, I handle/prepare all my taxes and expenses etc with my accountant. Tip: get a good accountant

Quote: "Did you or are you going to college?"

I went to college, but not for programming. I wanted to be a psychologist (lmao), then I thought I wanted to be a geologist (lmao again). Instead I settled for not graduating

Quote: "I have one more question for you loyal posters. I am trying to teach my 11 year old brother dark basic but all he wants to do is play video games all day. Am I wasting my time?"

Probably, but not definitely. If you are showing him theres a "how" to all of this video game madness, and he's disinterested, he may just stay that way, not everyone is destined to be a programmer. Then again he could "snap" over night, which isnt uncommon around that age. I guess just make the info available and if he at some point picks it up and goes forward then so be it. If not, then so be it. I was a bit different, I loved the games, and had no idea that the "how" was available (to some degree) among us normal joes. The second I saw BASIC I was hooked, and wanted to make games. Some people are just born to gravitate to those types of things I guess. Some kids today can be presented with all the tools and technology and never give it a second look - thats not a dig on today's kids, its just how it is. Some of us oldbies would kill for todays technology back then (circa early 80's) but we cant have everything.



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Posted: 26th Nov 2007 03:07
Quote: "Some of us oldbies would kill for todays technology back then (circa early 80's) but we cant have everything. "


I would kill to have been around, programming back then, but, alas, I was mearly an egg and a sperm at the time Damn not having an opposable thumb!

I don't care for todays 'technology' - it's the innovation that got us here that I'm more interested in (that's why the DS has me hooked, it's limited, there's so much you have to think about, you control the hardware directly, etc, etc).

Oh well, I'm here now, and I'm damn well making the best of it!

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Posted: 26th Nov 2007 04:50 Edited at: 26th Nov 2007 04:52
Thank you all for posting and I hope some of you will talk to me and my brother later on.

I would still love to hear everyones info I have to say I am astonished by how young people started programming.

Thanks,
Mark

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Posted: 26th Nov 2007 11:25
You know I am surprised at the amount of posts here which state their parents thought programming was not a good idea for a job. Maybe it has changed, but when I was a kid my parents were over the moon about the idea and career advisors pushed it down your throat if you weren't the same IQ as a brick. Essentially a programmer earns a lot more money than a sheep shearer (where I come from anyways). Ok, so is not what it once was, but still a sought after occupation from what I can see.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2007 17:03
I'd agree with Jess actually.. while current technology is quite exciting and amazing, there's nothing like getting your hands dirty with one of the old BASICs that incorporated an assembler.

Certainly have never had a much fun programming now, as I did on my Acorn Electron and Amiga 500+
Just something about the machines that made trying to do something fun rather than worrying about "Is this running slowly because I've programmed it wrong, or because the driver is bottlenecking"

You had direct machine access, but now the actual nitty gritty aspect of computer is hidden away behind NDAs and all sort of development layers that hide what the OS and other aspects are doing.

Sometimes it's just nice to write...

10 PLOT $COLOR, 0, 0, 100, 5

and know it'll make the line exactly on-screen where you've told it too; as soon as you press enter.
I mean you combine that with the fact that during the 80s you could program something, burn it to disc or tape then sell it for £2-3 down the local carboot sale... no worries about tax, your biggest competition would be your mate.

Ya know it just was far more entertaining in all rather than this corporate BS that surround the industry.

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Posted: 26th Nov 2007 18:28
Quote: "Damn not having an opposable thumb!"

I have an opposable thumb...


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Posted: 26th Nov 2007 20:50
Quote: "sell it for £2-3 down the local carboot sale"


It'd be nifty if homebrew still worked like that


Quote: "I have an opposable thumb..."


So do I, now. When I was an egg and a sperm, I didn't

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That's worrying, 'cuz when I was an egg and sperm, I did...


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Posted: 26th Nov 2007 23:10
How old where you when you started programming?
7
How old are you now?
Well, I could say but for reasons beyond my understanding I can't, which implies that I am quite young as a result.
Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
Well, my Dad taught me the BASIC syntax.
Did you want to program when you grew up?
Not necessarily.

What did you want to do as a programmer?
Special effects/interface coding

Did you succeed?
Not yet

Did you or are you going to college
Yeah, in Stafford soon.


Since the other one was scaring you guys so much...
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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 02:41
How old where you when you started programming?
7 or 8
How old are you now?
23
Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
My father programmed a little with Visual Basic, but he never really taught me. My older brother got me started with BASIC on our Atari 800.
Did you want to program when you grew up?
Not really, but I wanted to do it as a hobby.
What did you want to do as a programmer?
My main purpose in programming was to do games.
Did you succeed?
No, haven't written a single decent game yet. I keep getting distracted writing applications(DBP's IDE is crap, so I'll whip out a new one, lol!).
Did you or are you going to college
Nope. I do have a part-time job doing PHP and Delphi for a local company -- their website, inside ordering systems, etc.

I enjoy programming, but sometimes it can be a little mundane when you're programming the most boring inventory management program for a company. That's why I have DBP/DGDK to fool around with.

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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 04:24 Edited at: 27th Nov 2007 04:30
How old were you when you first started programming?
I was 13, and I started programming on the TI-82. My old TI programs still exist, and are uploaded on the web here.

How old are you now?
18.

Did you have a parent or guardian who taught you?
No, but my mother is a work-at-home contractor who programs for AS/400 systems.

Did you want to program when you grew up?
I've always wanted to design games back since I was five playing my first game boy. I even mailed Nintendo a drawing I made detailing a side-scrolling platforming game involving the Boy Scouts jumping around a city, picking up trash, with no opposition, time limit, scoring, but most importantly, now that I remember it, fun.

I look back at that now, and laugh about as hard as the minimum-wage letter-monkey did when he opened my letter and stuffed a pre-written reply in the post back to me.

But it was about a year after I started on the TI's that I decided I'd like to be a programmer.

What do you want to do as a programmer?
Get a job, write some programs, and hopefully not get laid off. The game industry sounds like an interesting field though, hence why I'm here

Did you succeed?
Well I still haven't ripped a hard-drive out of a computer, and beat it with a sledge hammer yet. So I guess you could say that!

Too young to tell otherwise though. But I've only completed smaller, simpler games, never really finish many projects unless they're school related.

Did you or are you going to go to college?
I am attending Penn State University for a bachelors in Computer Science. My computer science teacher for up to my fourth semester is Pavel Azalov, and comes from Bulgaria. He's a good teacher, but it's embarrassing to have to sit through an Intro to C++ course.

Ah well, free credits I guess. If all goes well, I'll have all of my requirements for entrance into the major done by the end of next semester, a year ahead of schedule.



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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 04:36
How old where you when you started programming?
Around 11
How old are you now?
Older than that^
Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
Not even a little bit
Did you want to program when you grew up?
Yep

What did you want to do as a programmer?
Honestly, games were the intial draw, nowadays I dunno, I just wanna program, preferably in C++, but a friend is trying to convert me to Python o.O

Did you succeed?
Get back to me in ah...about 3-4 years

Did you or are you going to college
Plan on going to this neat little 2yr community college for programming, has over 100% job placement(more jobs thrown at them than they have students for)

I have one more question for you loyal posters.
I am trying to teach my 11 year old brother dark basic but all he wants to do is play video games all day. Am I wasting my time?

At 11, possibly, but I dunno. If he's interested in programming at some point, it's worth throwing at him. If he's not currently interested in programming, I'd just wait, maybe hint at it, and see if he gains that interest


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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 06:12
Quote: "I have one more question for you loyal posters.
I am trying to teach my 11 year old brother dark basic but all he wants to do is play video games all day. Am I wasting my time?"

If he's not interested, don't teach him. You can't teach someone something they don't want to learn, it's only a waste of both your times. Let him come to you if he wants to learn.


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Posted: 27th Nov 2007 10:01
1) I was 12 when I first started to program anything other than Hello World style programs.

2) Now 38

3) I did not have a parent/guardian who taught me, but when I first started my mother's boyfriend and I used to type alot of programs in together from magazines. He was really supportive and interested in learning as much as I was.

4) Yes I did, I was very confident finishing up high school that I would be in the programming field. I had a serious problem getting loans for school and for scholarships I was in a heavy minority (white male). Life tossed me a big loop and I found I had no time for school and had to go right to working 2 full time and a part time job.

5) I always wanted to be a game programmer.

6) Yes I have succeded, I work for a company making Flash games.

7) I am in college now, though I have cut back my course load, working on a dual degree in Game Design and Game oriented Programming. I spent alot of years working for AT&T (where I thought I would retire from) and took courses of interest throughout my years there. this last semester I just surpassed 200 credits, yet no degree since I just took things I was interested in and never focused on a major.

last question: You need to find a way to get him interested, try something like 3dGM where making changes can lead to an instant game, perhaps he will eventually desire to take it further.

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All of your replies have really helped me understand a lot of things. Programmers are born, Not taught. (I swear that is gonna be my new sig)

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Posted: 15th Dec 2007 18:23 Edited at: 15th Dec 2007 18:24
How old were you went you started programming?

10
How old are you now?

<18

Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
LOL. NO!

Did you want to program when you grew up?
Is that even a question? (yes)

What did you want to do as a programmer?
Game Programing (Specifically, simulations)

Did you succeed?
Don't know yet :p

Did you or are you going to college
I might.
Quote: "
I am trying to teach my 11 year old brother dark basic but all he wants to do is play video games all day. Am I wasting my time?"


I want to teach my dog how to drive, but all he wants to do is sniff his butt, am I wasting my time?

(yes, if he doesn't want to, he won't )

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i only program octinaly when it becomes nesoserry, or i become bord of modaling/ cannot think of anything to model. i have pritymutch only programed animation controllers and model viewers. though thay dont work that well

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Posted: 16th Dec 2007 00:49 Edited at: 16th Dec 2007 00:52
How old where you when you started programming?
This age.
How old are you now?
The same age
Did you have a parent or guardian who tought you?
Teaching myself with the help of people on the forums.
Did you want to program when you grew up?
Now I do, but I could get into level designing.

What did you want to do as a programmer?

Probably game programming.

Did you succeed?
NOT OLD ENOUGH TO!!

Did you or are you going to college?
Hopefully someday!!

Those are my answers. I actually recieved DarkBASIC for my birthday this year, so I cannot tell you what age I am. It's kind of funny, really...

Signatures....peh. I never come up with anything good to say in them. Ah well.

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