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Cash Curtis II
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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 03:01 Edited at: 9th Feb 2008 03:02
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Quote: "Do you really think there's any more than the tiniest chance that you'll be in a position where you are threatened with a gun and are within range of your own gun and are able to get to it and protect yourself with it?"

Only the tiniest chance. I think that there's more of a chance you'd find yourself in an uncommon situation and misuse the weapon by accident. I.E. shoot the wrong person. I do think that a shotgun in the house is a good idea. That is a place that you could use a weapon when you really needed it. And, the sound of a homeowner cocking a shotgun is quite a nice deterrent.

Lethal injection is inhumane, not because of the process itself, but because the people administering it are unqualified to do so. They can't hire doctors to kill people, so they hire other far less educated quacks to administer the chemicals. There are several steps. One is the sedative. It's powerful, but it only works for a very short time. Often they take too long to administer the next two sets of chemicals, and the criminal has been paralyzed but becomes conscious again. Then they are fully aware of their own burning, agonizing death. Though they might deserve to die I think that this does qualify as cruel and unusual, even if not intentionally so.

The guillotine is a stupid method of execution. Yes, modern 1st world societies are better than ancient societies. In an ancient society the average person was not protected, you could be tortured and killed on any given day by any number of a-holes invading your country or claiming to be the right hand of God. I could get killed on the street but the chances are honestly not good.

Executing a person is more expensive than sentencing them to life in prison. There are so many more costs involved. Cost is not a benefit of execution.

That being said, I'll say again - the average killer shouldn't be put to death. Hardcore murderers should be. Serial killers, family killers, multiple killers, child killers. People don't actually want to defend these people, they want to defend a sugar coated idea. Because our legal system is so broken, execution is the only way to truly remove someone that is totally unfit to exist in our society. Hell, they're unfit to exist in prison, because most people in prison aren't as bad as the group that I've identified.


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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 03:27 Edited at: 9th Feb 2008 03:28
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Quote: "Do you really think there's any more than the tiniest chance that you'll be in a position where you are threatened with a gun and are within range of your own gun and are able to get to it and protect yourself with it?"


You could ask my dad that question but I'll answer for him anyways.

He's worked in the heating and cooling business all his life. Most of his work is downtown in the rundown ghetto type areas. So he and his boss were going to collect payment for a job they finished one afternoon. As they were getting out of the truck my dad's boss pulled his revolver out and hid it under his coat in the back of his pants. My dad had never seen it before and he's like "what do you need that for...?" His boss says back something along the lines of "You never know what you'll run into around here".

So they walk into the store, they go up to the owner to collect the payment. The owner starts handing over the cash when suddenly his helper walks up and says "Hey man, where'd you get all that money?" as he pulls out a little pistol of some sort. He's holding the store owner at gun point telling the owner to give him the money and saying if he gives my dad and his boss the money he'll just take it from them anyways. My dad's boss whips out his big old revolver points it at the guy holding the store owner up and says "I don't think so", takes the money and they leave the store...

Luckily no one was hurt, but you never know what could happen.

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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 03:36 Edited at: 9th Feb 2008 03:38
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Quote: "Having no gun zones in a gun filled country doesn't mean that guns won't be taken into those places. Those places aren't picked because they are gun free, but because it's where people are"


Course it doesn't, proves how completely useless a no gun law is lol. They can still get the gun somewhere else. Sure ban guns for the whole country, they'll just get it from somewhere else or even make it themselves from a deactive gun. However you a bit wrong about places being picked because they are gun free, because sometimes they are. Especially by criminals, cos who wants to raid a house where there is a shotgun in every room

Quote: "Since it's so common people to survive only because they were able to defend themselves with guns . It would save many more lives by taking guns out of the hands of everyone we can than by giving it to everyone."


Yes it is very common for people to survive only because they were able to defend themselves with guns O.o You prolly won't here about it on the news much though lol.

Criminals will still have guns if they are banned, you won't lol. They are criminals, they BREAK the law. Just because you have never been in a situation where you haven't needed one doesn't mean you or anyone else will. Trust me when you are in that kind of situation, you would want something to defend you or anyone else you care about.

Don't get me wrong, guns are horrible and in an ideal world where everyone obeys the law they should be banned, until then I'd rather not be defenseless even though I'm forced to living in this place . Someone actually got shot near where I live a few days ago though O.o

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Quote: "Don't get me wrong, guns are horrible and in an ideal world where everyone obeys the law they should be banned"


Exactly, but this will never happen, so :\

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I'll never give up my guns. Haven't we learned from history? Mass-murderers agree; gun-control works. Just ask Mao, Stalin or Hitler. I'd rather be safe than sorry. To be honest, it's mostly for defence against Sweden though. I know they'll be coming back again. Just wait.

Quote: "and I don't worry about a corrupt government, because there are other more effective and less violent ways to fight back other than guns."


Naturally, but it's nice to have a plan B though. 'Cause you know, plan A seldom works. Some people prefer armed rebellion over peaceful resolutions, but they are just crazy. They just confirm to the government and reinforce their reasons to strip the guns from the people. I'm not like that though. I'm a lover, not a figher, but i'll fight for what i love. I love freedom, and i'll give my life for it if it deems necessary.

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I am getting my concealed weapon liscence when I turn eighteen.

There are a lot of sick people in the world. Especially in the US. Evil, evil aretards...

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Quote: "Guns should be banned, in my opinion."


Oh my, what an ignorant statement.

Guns are a necessity for many people's living. Some of my uncles and my grandparents are trappers and hunters who make a living with guns. Even if they're banned do you honestly think criminals will just hand over their weapons? Argh.


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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 11:21 Edited at: 9th Feb 2008 11:22
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Ghandi managed to defeat the Brittish Empire without guns or weapons.

Quote: "Mass-murderers agree; gun-control works. Just ask Mao, Stalin or Hitler."


"The most powerfull weapon of the opresser is the mind of the opressed."

Seriusly, all dictators of that caliber does not need weapon control. They have other methods.

Quote: "Hitler deserved death, Stalin deserved death, Ho Chi Minh and Saddam all deserved death. You cannot equate the death of a child to the death of a murderer. Also there is a clear distinction between murdering and killing."


No, they deserved to be locked away forever. In Hitlers case in an Zoo. Heard Stalin promised that would happen if he got Hitler...

The only case I think killing can be justidied is to directly protect yourself or others. Note the directly part . Death sentense just do not qualify.

Quote: "To be honest, it's mostly for defence against Sweden though. I know they'll be coming back again. Just wait."


Yeah, we plan an massive invasion of your place. Just your place, no other. We will bring A-bombs and miniguns. Hope you are well armed!

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You are an idiot .

There is no such Ideality in the world, so protection must exist.

But if you never want to own a weapon, then fine, sell them, do what you like.

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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 19:31 Edited at: 9th Feb 2008 19:36
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Quote: "Oh my, what an ignorant statement.

Guns are a necessity for many people's living. Some of my uncles and my grandparents are trappers and hunters who make a living with guns. Even if they're banned do you honestly think criminals will just hand over their weapons? Argh."

Hunting and trapping or using them for a living is different than people just keeping them around in their houses and cars . They just made a new law where I live that says you don't even need a concealed handgun license to carry a gun in your car . I don't think criminals would just hand over their guns, but I do think that it'd make it harder for them to get them, make harsher punishments for having them, and it'd prevent people who wouldn't normally be considered "criminals" from committing acts of violence with guns (ie: road rage). The least we can do is restrict licenses more.

Doesn't really matter in the end how many people think we should ban them in the US, because it's the second amendment in the Bill of Rights, and I seriously doubt they will change that anytime soon .


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Quote: "The least we can do is restrict licenses more.
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It's extremely difficult for a criminal to legitimately get a gun. In fact, I would say that it's near impossible. And it's totally impossible without committing fraud.


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Quote: "You are an idiot .

There is no such Ideality in the world, so protection must exist.

But if you never want to own a weapon, then fine, sell them, do what you like."


Way this aimed at my Ghandi comment? Because he really did do it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghandi

Besides, weapons and killing is for the idiots who cannot use their brains to figure out how to solve problems.

And might I ask you how many martial arts you train? I train two.

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So in essence they already experience a law similar to banning weapons, however they still get them... That's why you can't ban guns. People who break the law will still get them. You can't stop it and it just steals rights from other people if you ban weapons.

To be perfectly honest I'd rather someone hold me up with a gun than a knife or some other sharp object against my throat anyhow.

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Quote: "So in essence they already experience a law similar to banning weapons, however they still get them... That's why you can't ban guns"


That is two entierly different things. You have to create an system where the police and the authoritys gets the resources they need to defeat the criminals and illegal weapons. That way we can defeat their way to get weapons. But that would be invane in they can just walk into the first best store and buy weapons.

And you talk about rights. I do not think there are rights to have guns. It only makes it far too easy to have weapons, which is not good. There should be an strict control of who can have weapons and who can not. This means they should not be found in any normal store.

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Just to clarify, it's not illegal to have an unregistered gun, afaik, but you can't just walk into a store or bank (no matter what Michael Moore tells you) and ask for one.

It requires a 7 day wait, a full background check, and you must be purchasing the gun for yourself. You may not purchase it on behalf of someone else. And anyone convicted of a federal offense may not possess a firearm whatsoever.


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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 20:36 Edited at: 9th Feb 2008 20:37
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Quote: "Just to clarify, it's not illegal to have an unregistered gun, afaik, but you can't just walk into a store or bank (no matter what Michael Moore tells you) and ask for one.

It requires a 7 day wait, a full background check, and you must be purchasing the gun for yourself. You may not purchase it on behalf of someone else. And anyone convicted of a federal offense may not possess a firearm whatsoever."


It should be illegal...

And it was funny, the guys who performed the Colombine massacre bought their guns in an weapons store. So it clearly does not work that well. And over here, well, I cannot remember of any simular thing ever happened, and we have much stricter weapons control then in the US.

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Posted: 9th Feb 2008 21:46 Edited at: 9th Feb 2008 21:58
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Quote: "And it was funny, the guys who performed the Colombine massacre bought their guns in an weapons store."


Quote: "A rifle and the two shotguns were bought in what was perhaps a straw purchase in December, 1998 by a friend, Robyn Anderson, who had purchased the shotguns at the Tanner Gun Show in December, in private sales from individual(s).

Harris and Klebold later bought a handgun from a friend, Mark Manes for $500. Manes was jailed after the massacre for selling a handgun to a minor,[39] as was Philip Duran, who had introduced the duo to Manes.[40]"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre


And if you care not to believe wikipedia, look at it's sources.

They got the guns illegally, and the suppliers were arrested and charged because of it.

This sort of thing would have happened whether guns can be sold or not. Ya, they might have had to look harder, but it still would have been possible.

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I cannot remember of any simular thing ever happened, and we have much stricter weapons control then in the US."


http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF02.htm

Funny they left out the columbine shooting, which as you can see above, they illegally had guns. But it's not on the list, I wonder how many others aren't either.

(correction, I see they probably listed it as littleton, co. My bad. Still, point still stands, out of all the gun owners in the US, the number of crimes committed with them is extremely low.

http://www.boogieonline.com/revolution/firearms/facts/circulation.html
(Don't know how accurate this above source is, but it's interesting none-the-less)
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Quote: "And it was funny, the guys who performed the Colombine massacre bought their guns in an weapons store."


If that is true, then the store did not follow proper protocol. They were AFAIK underage, no? There should be more enforcement with weapon sales, just as people should be carded before buying M and A rated games and R rated movies.

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I wonder how many of these people played video games. I think we should just blame it on that.. instead of, you know, the people who committed the crimes.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Harris_and_Dylan_Klebold

Scroll down to "acquiring arms". Dylan and Eric did not buy those weapons. They acquired them illegally through a friend of purchasing age. I think that that friend should be prosecuted for breaking the law... The shooting may not have happened if she had refused to buy them the weapons.

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Well, they cound not buy guns because they where under age. The fact that they could make an friend buy them for them is the same as if the guns where bought legally, even though the aquired them from the friend illegaly.

Quote: "This sort of thing would have happened whether guns can be sold or not. Ya, they might have had to look harder, but it still would have been possible."


Se above.

Plus, harder is equal to better.

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Quote: "Well, they cound not buy guns because they where under age. The fact that they could make an friend buy them for them is the same as if the guns where bought legally, even though the aquired them from the friend illegaly."


So, video games should be outlawed because your parents/friends can buy them for you if you are under age?

So, drugs should be outlawed because your parents/friends can buy them for you? Oh wait, snap!, they are

(Ye, I realize video games can't really be used to kill people very easily. Unless it's your inner child, and the game is Big Rigs)


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No, games should not. And I do not think band like Ramstein or Marylyn Manson should either. There is an huge difference. I just do not think guns are good, and that there should be high regulation of HOW guns are used and WHO own them. They may not automatically turn people into psykos, but they should be controlled.

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Quote: "So, drugs should be outlawed because your parents/friends can buy them for you? Oh wait, snap!, they are"


And just look how abused they are... You can't stop things like this... at all. If I wanted to I could have walked down to the corner store a few years ago and bought drugs at the tattoo parlor before they were found out and charged... This is quiet peaceful little township not some downtown gang infested ghetto.

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That is no reason to make it legal, it is just an reason to take more drastic actions against drugs. But enough about that now.

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This sort of thing is horrible and the man should be punished accordingly.

Killing him would be one solution, great one less scum bag off of the face of the earth and we don't have to pay to keep him in jail.

Not exactly a moral thing I'd say, not just because killing is wrong, but because it's still not justice. How does he learn? How does he suffer pain? (Not saying we should give him physical pain, but the pain of emotion) For criminals like these, a jail as cheap as cheap can be is good, just a sturdy building, with bars, a courtyard, guards and crappy food (2 meals a day) - I say crappy food, but school food is worse than prison food (well after new studies, school food has been improved) basically running the prison cheaply as you can (I mean they don't need entertainment or leisure, just enough activity to stop them from insanity, entertainment, okay food etc. is what makes prisons too cushy)

Yes, we shouldn't pay money to keep him alive, but by keeping him alive we're delivering justice - he'd have counsellors to speak to him about what he did and they'd try and help him see the extent of what he has done. Being isolated in his cell will give him time to think, a lot of time to think and when you have that much time to think you will reflect upon what you've done and he should soon realize his mistakes. And when you see you've done something wrong your super ego kicks in and makes you feel bad about it - and the level of your actions will determine the internal pain. So when his life sentence is up, he'll know the extent of his actions. Or at least there's a good chance if he's not in a cushy prison.

Perhaps, if money and tax is an issue, perhaps our justice guys could use prisoners to work and fund themselves, (supervised and incapable of escape or harm, or enjoyment)

Plus life sentences mean you don't screw up and put innocent men to death, West Memphis 3 anyone? Alleged child murderers that has more evidence against the crime than for. (They're not dead yet, but still on Death Row)

And of course the phrase I grew up with 'Two wrongs don't make a right'. The only time I consider killing right is to prevent a greater injustice (as opposed to punish somebody for). If released he may be bigger threat to society, so don't release him (or at least until it is guaranteed that he's not a threat)...at least have a justice system that delivers justice, ours will (and has) release(d) road killers 2 years after being put in jail.

Eye for an eye doesn't equal justice.

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Quote: "is what makes prisons too cushy"


I'm sure you'd love chillin' in prison.


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Quote: "I'm sure you'd love chillin' in prison. "


Let's say you live off the pennies you find in the street. Reside in a run-down shack, and you commit a crime to make some money. You get caught. Suddenly you realize that hey... prison isn't so bad. It's free. I get 3 good hot meals, a warm bed, and entertainment.

Doesn't sound so bad depending on where you come from

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Quote: "Doesn't sound so bad depending on where you come from"

It might be vastly different to what you imagine.

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Quote: "Doesn't sound so bad depending on where you come from"


Until someone decides to make you their b**.


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Ahahaha, I guess thats true... They always say never to bend over to pick up your soap if you drop it in the shower.

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I watched Oz and was scared straight ever since.


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That police in "The Naked Gun" solves the shower problem! Just do not remember which part when he infiltrate an prison and ware iron underware that only can be taken of by someone with the right key...

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I remember hearing that a guy beat his 3 year-old brother to death with a broom, because he ate chocolate pudding that was in the fridge and he wanted to eat it.....

People like these are what i despise.Picking on the little guy to show themselves off...


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Quote: "And might I ask you how many martial arts you train? I train two."


I train one, my sifu makes sure we know NOT to try and take out a guy with a gun unless you know he is probably gonna shoot you anyway. You are not as fast as a speeding bullet Martial arts are not an effective way of countering armed criminals unless you sneak attack them or become extremely lucky. Guns however do provide an effective defense because you have an equal chance of hitting him and getting away with your life. Other defensive methods are okay if they can be used at the same sort of distance, but ALL of them are illegal here. Apart from the rape alarms... woo. Effective self defense there O.o

Quote: "Not exactly a moral thing I'd say, not just because killing is wrong, but because it's still not justice. How does he learn?"


I remember a twilight zone episode which solved the problem, it was pretty cool actually, makes the killer go through the events over and over again in weird and unusual ways. It was a cool episode
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I liked the episode (might've been the outer limits) where the dude was his own judge, jury and prison. He connected himself to a fancy new computer that was going to revolutionize the justice system. He ended up putting himself on trial for the death of some loved one or another and he served a life sentence. When he came out, only a minutes had passed. Turned out he blamed himself, but he was ultimately innocent. He destroyed the machine.

That one was pretty good.


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I haven't read all this thread...

It's pretty awful that things like this happen...

But who the heck wrote that news piece... it read like a child wrote it... "A Bloke...gone bonkers... little mite... Spellman was nicked... The perp confessed... blame on his missus"

I found it incredibly difficult to believe the story due to the poor way in which it was written...

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Quote: "I train one, my sifu makes sure we know NOT to try and take out a guy with a gun unless you know he is probably gonna shoot you anyway."


Asked just to know if you where one of those who worried very much and didn´t train. Martial arts are great traing for the mind and selfdefence. Maybe not against bullets, but then again, it might come in handy anyway. Not everyone attacks with weapons, and even if they do and they will shot you anyway, what do you have to loose? Sound like your sifu are wise .
But personally I train mostly because I just love the training.

Darkness, you haunt me. If I give in, I would be an monster beyond imagining. Light, you guide me. Thanks to you, I see past the nothingness. Life, I choose to live in the light.
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When you hear ex-convicts talking about how easy prison was and that they don't care if they go back, and how people aren't deterred by prison, then they're too cushy. (I dunno about the US, but certainly in the UK) Imagine, not having to worry about paying the rent, getting free food, get privileges such as TV and an exercise yard when you can play football/soccer or basketball...the only thing you need to worry about is abuse and a lack of control in your life...if you're a strong person (internally, and perhaps externally) then prison life is probably better than a life of crime. (speaking from that perspective)

Thus prisons are too cushy and criminals don't get what they deserve (or at least the more hardcore ones) - only decent men learn their lesson and the rest it's a hit and miss.



Quote: "I haven't read all this thread...

It's pretty awful that things like this happen...

But who the heck wrote that news piece... it read like a child wrote it... "A Bloke...gone bonkers... little mite... Spellman was nicked... The perp confessed... blame on his missus"

I found it incredibly difficult to believe the story due to the poor way in which it was written..."


Agreed, it was too much of a novelty to actually take the article seriously, luckily I had heard of this before, so it's a true story but the way it is written I think is horrible for an article like this.


If you really want to make the guy suffer, put him on Judge Judy, she really knows how to make you feel small and insignificant...I've watched it and I've felt small, let alone the actors playing the defendants. Of course this isn't a crack of a joke (not entirely at least) - it works on children on a smaller scale (man, I used to be scared as a child when I forget my homework 3 times in a row), so on a larger scale it might work on adults.

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thats why you use soap on a rope

anyway, as for prison being to cushy, its the same here in Aus, the morning crew on my local radio station (i like my breakfast radio) were interviewing members of the public who had been in prison (in response to a news story about prisoners demanding more potatoes) and people were saying that it really is not that bad, they have weekly movie nights, upon entering they get a welcome pack with cigarettes and stuff that a hotel would give you.

there were however some people that got the other end of the bargain, saying that if some other prisoners dont like you, they will take you to a place where the cameras cant see and beat you silly.


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