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Snotgobbler
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Posted: 25th Feb 2008 18:31
When at school nearly everything is blocked... probably this site too.

Can anyone suggest a good website that won't be blocked


plz help me thanks in advance

PLEAZ HELP ME I'M SOOOOOOOOO BORED AT SCHOOL

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Posted: 25th Feb 2008 19:35
TGC is blocked at school here as well. Try gamedev.net that might work.

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I remember those days... We'd all use proxy servers to bypass the filters. The stupid overpaid administrators never figured it out. But at uni, we don't get filtered, and the servers we used to use have been taken down anyway...
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gamasutra works too, so does lost garden, Deviant art, conceptart.com, cgsociety and so forth.


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http://www.smmrjournal.com

It'll bypass proxies =]


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Posted: 26th Feb 2008 13:31
Is the Geek Culture board blocket at your house? hohoho I am kidding.

Well.. I am not an example of person who follows every rule, but there are limits for a reason. If they are not clear, try to talk. If you fail at argumentation, try to pay attention to more important things. The school is a great place to meet people and to study. Concerning about internet is the less important, in my opinion. You have full access at home for hours, dude.

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Posted: 26th Feb 2008 15:46
(1st# *2^24)+(2nd# *2^16)+(3rd# *2^8)+(4th# *2^0)

ok you know how google has this calculator well go into the command prompt ping the site like



then put each part of the ip address were the 1st# and so on are in teh equation once you have it all plugged in let google solve it and put the end answer in the url and get rid of the spaces or....if you have websense i got a proxy site that i got from teh eqution let me give you teh numbers that you plug in. and it will work instead of doing what i just said.

1134506562


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Posted: 26th Feb 2008 17:09
just typing in the ip itself works alot of the times

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Thanks Everyone

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Posted: 26th Feb 2008 17:40
SimSmall i have a way it just takes a while and must be done at an exact time

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Posted: 26th Feb 2008 19:16
Everything is always blocked at school - there's always a way around them, but TGC was only blocked at my old school because I decided to go onto the site during a lesson...despite finishing all of my coursework and exams for the subject - with 30 minutes of the lesson to spare. Though some schools will have an anti-forum policy, that's usually there to protect students (hence stuff like Habbo Hotel, Chatrooms and Runescape) get blocked too.

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these forums suddenly work where i am doing woe experience


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Posted: 27th Feb 2008 20:15
Msot of the ones work so thanks guys

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Posted: 29th Feb 2008 05:55
using blocked sights at school is over rated. its more fun to delete system 32 and tell the teacher the computer sucks.

or mess with the school phone network. school is so fun if you do what your not supposed to.

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ATS has a good, true point. But unless you're good at it and won't get caught...be careful. For example, whenever me or someone I know mess with the school computers, we disconnect the network and force close the app that the school uses to regulate/monitor the computers. We actually had a legitimate reason to do this the other day. But shhh...don't tell


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Lol I know all about that, I made a file that automatically would shut the computer down when opened, and disguised it as internet explorer And I did that on most of the schools computers, that was pretty fun


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Posted: 29th Feb 2008 18:17
hey insanity complex,
we do that sometimes

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Posted: 29th Feb 2008 18:18
Alucard94, i'd love to do that but ours have restrictions on them

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Posted: 29th Feb 2008 18:21
the game creators is'nt blocked but the forums page is
school is clever like that

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My school filter is easy to bypass.

It blocks very few sites

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Im the IT assistant at my high school (and im only a bloody freshmen!), and I have direct access over what is and is not blocked for students, as well as a full listing of websites people go to. Needless to say, Its been funny to see what sites people try to go to (I thought cartoon porn was the funniest one of the lot). Its also been nice to block all the popular proxies but keep the ones 3 or so people go to unblocked, and then just use those.


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Download the version Damn Small Linux that runs on a virtual machine, put it on a USB, plug it in the pc, and fire away.
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Hah.

At my school, my friend and I made the computers automatically boot from a CD that we made, causing the computers to play screeching metal music and flash weird colors on boot.

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Posted: 1st Mar 2008 08:29
heheheh what is fun is screwing around in the command prompt or getting on myspace and people will be like WTF how you guys do that.

oh...a tip never make a continues loop opening iexplorer in the command prompt...did that at school once, not a good idea it freezes it up


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some of the less advanced blockers can be overcome by going into internet explorer's options and adjusting the "acceptable sites".

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Posted: 1st Mar 2008 20:28 Edited at: 1st Mar 2008 20:31
Oh dear. I think the maturity level of this forum just dropped about 10 years.

Blocks are usually in place for a reason. It could be because the sites in question are being using during lesson time, or because they use up vast amounts of unnecessary bandwidth, or because they contain unsuitable material for a public environment, or because the sites hold no educational value at all. Most educational establishments are provided with their Internet connection for educational use only - its in their AUP so the schools have to do their best to abide by the rules laid down to them. Also, some sites contain images or language which is not suitable for minors - even if you consider them okay for yourself. If a youngster at your school walks past and sees something dodgy on your screen it would only take them to mention it to a parent and all the parents would be straight up the school asking why they allow porn. Unless the school can prove that every site with a slightly adult related theme is blocked then the next thing you know its in the papers. It happens. Then you find that to cover themselves, the school either turns off Internet access to everyone without a special need, or they implement a 'whitelist only' scheme where you can only visit the sites they have previous checked as okay.

Deliberately breaking machines because you find it 'fun' is the most ridiculous and childish thing I have heard in a long time. I really hope that when you need to finish some course work or something else really important to pass a course, the only computers available to you have been broken by the previous users. Perhaps then you will understand how you are screwing things up for everyone else. Yeah, really funny.


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Our schools security system can be shut down by right clicking it and pressing exit...
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In the olden days, you had to press stop on the vcr


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Quote: "Our schools security system can be shut down by right clicking it and pressing exit... "


hahaha... wow.

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This reminds me of my senior year of high school. Our school used Novell software to monitor students, block webpages, etc, and every piece of internet access went through a proxy server first, effectively preventing any non-LAN gameplay.

But the software wasn't perfect. With the closing of a single task (through an alternative task manager, as the default was blocked), any blocked programs could immediately be used. And, with said blocking program disabled, one could also hunt down the server administrator program on the schools server and have fun from there.

While I never used said program to mess with anybody, I did set up an entire classroom full of computers to be able to close the software monitoring program for a thirty person UT2K4 LAN session

On that note, yes, websites are blocked at school for a reason, you're there to learn, and other students watching you do nothing but goof around on a web-forum all day isn't good for your popularity. Getting caught trying to get around them, at some schools, can cause your account to lose access to the schools servers indefinitely as well, so be wary with what you do.



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i've already lost my account and e-mail once so i'll be wary about certain things

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Quote: "Our schools security system can be shut down by right clicking it and pressing exit..."

Our too, but it starts everytime when web browser is refreshed... (and it's IE - the old one without tabs )

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Company i use to work at use to block the darkbasic site automatically, when i asked they unblocked it as its a "Good Site"

why not ask in IT if they can unblock the site using the excuse about how programming is "Educational", you never know, they may unblock it

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Whoa Zappo... porn at school? One haywire mind, there. What sane person would watch porn at school - that's not only most likely illegal (there's that 18+ law in effect, isn't there)? Okay, what sane person would watch porn anyway? (I'll get some replies about that, it appears to be normal nowadays).

I could encircle the security at school and heck, of course I told everyone how. You're at school to learn stuff, surely, but you're a kid too and you don't have the priorities of a 'mature' person. It's part of developing and I'm getting a bit annoyed by people that talk about matureness dropping. It's part of becoming mature. Who didn't do anything wrong back in the days? In the old days, they were paper planes or sleeping in class, nowadays its LAN-ning and chatting.

Nothing wrong about that, and if there's a way, a teenager mind will find it. It's that simple, and there's nothing wrong with it if you ask me neither.

Blabla, there's a reason for limits. Yeah, cool. Very mature to only think about your own reasoning, eh? That's why 'adults' have a hard time communicating with adolescents or teenagers - they can only reason in their own little perfect way. A normal teenager isn't like that. Limits are to be broken. They'll grow over it, but at high school, that's how most teenagers think. And I don't think that that'll make them less of an adult.


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Quote: "Whoa Zappo... porn at school? One haywire mind, there. What sane person would watch porn at school - that's not only most likely illegal (there's that 18+ law in effect, isn't there)?"


Several of my high school teachers actually watched porn in between classes. A large number of students do too whenever a teacher can't see them. The entire back section of my CADD class in my Junior year watched porn almost daily.

Quote: "Blabla, there's a reason for limits. Yeah, cool. Very mature to only think about your own reasoning, eh? That's why 'adults' have a hard time communicating with adolescents or teenagers - they can only reason in their own little perfect way. A normal teenager isn't like that. Limits are to be broken. They'll grow over it, but at high school, that's how most teenagers think. And I don't think that that'll make them less of an adult.
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While this may not correlate with the main topic, I have something to say on this. It's a way of thinking I wish more teenagers would forget swiftly. I don't know how much of a problem it is elsewhere, but there have been several deaths at my old district that have been the result of someone "breaking limits". Frankly that sort of reasoning can make them less of an adult.

Specifically if they never make it that far.



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Tha_rami, your attitude is one of the main things wrong with the way young people act in school today. They have no respect for other people, including their fellow students who also need to use the computers for their work. Have you thought that maybe some students actually want to pass their courses? You seem to think there is 'nothing wrong' with those that cause disruption preventing those who actually want to learn and get their work done. Is that fare?

Its all about respect - and I mean respect for your peers as well as respect for the people who are trying to provide computers and Internet access. Its not about fighting authority but thinking about the consequences of your actions. It doesn't matter how old you are, once you reach the age of about 3 you know 'right' from 'wrong'. Deliberately breaking rules which are there for good reason and trying to ruin things for everyone else is wrong and as long as people keep making excuses like 'oh its because they are young' they will continue.

Perhaps you think it would be okay for them to burn down the school as long as nobody gets hurt, just because they are young and fighting the rules? Or destroying your car because, after all, 'kids will be kids'. Ridiculous.


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I needed to find the IP of a computer in my classroom for an assignment in my A+ class. So my friend went to IP chicken and called out his IP to me and my teacher brought us to the office on the grounds of "hacking" (oh he was grinning like an idiot because he thought he caught us) they called in the tech lady and she was like "Its just an IP..." and you can bet he lost his idiot grin right quick lol.

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IP chicken gives your outbound IP address, not your local lan address. Did you fail the a+ class?


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No, it told me to go there and get that one (no idea why), but I passed with an A. Even though the teacher gave me rubber cement to clean a printer with, and told me not to worry, so I had fun that day haha!

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No respect? Actually I'm known as one of the most respectable and respectful members of my school and I'm the politest salesman at my work currently.

Limits to be broken is relative. There's a complete difference between circumventing electronic security to be able to MSN or surf and trying to cross a railroad just before the train passes by or something similar. Anything that can get you killed is plain stupid.

Quote: "Have you thought that maybe some students actually want to pass their courses? You seem to think there is 'nothing wrong' with those that cause disruption preventing those who actually want to learn and get their work done. Is that fare? "

So, they use another computer? There's computers enough in any respectable school nowadays, and if not their education methods are desperately outdated. If someone is doing something that is not educational it has lower priority, so just remove that person from the computer if someone really needs it. On my school, after I circumvented their security it came down to that system. School adapted to the students - all sites were unlocked. We never had any porn incidents and noone was ever short of computers. So yes, that's fair.

There's other ways of thinking than just taking the limits for granted. If everyone would've done that, we wouldn't be flying, we wouldn't have fire and we definitely wouldn't be where we are now. Rebels create revolutions, and as long as its in the law and not dangerous or harmful to yourself or others, teenagers, in my opinion, should be able to experiment with 'boundaries'. That's how they think anyway.

Now, your attitude, Zappo, is exactly why there's so much tension between generations. You've got the same attitude as, lets say, Mr. Thompson towards gaming. You hold too much value to your own values and morals and seem not to respect that those are not the only ones - especially with the age gap that has always been there - a direct result of such 'mature' behaviour. Heck, even one Greek philosopher once complained about a lack of respect from the youth. What does this tell us? That people that are 'mature' tend to... unconsciously consider themselves superior. They might be smarter and wiser, but they've got no right to look down on what they've once been. I'm not saying the teenagers shouldn't be regulated, I'm saying that their experimenting with boundaries isn't stupid, isn't harmful for them and shouldn't ever be condescended as you just did. Especially not with innocent things as visiting a gaming forum or wanting to chat. Just remove the harmful or lawbreaking rotten apples.

Nothing personal, just something that completely annoys me with self-proclaimed 'mature' people that barely display tolerance towards the search for freedom and individuality of the youth.


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I'm with Rami (crap, did I really just say that? ).

At my school they block practically everything. We got around it using proxies and web page translators for a while, then they got smart (after about 6 months) and now it's next to impossible to find one that's not blocked. Now we have other methods to get around it...

They are fighting a losing battle, students are usually smarter than the administrators with technical stuff, and we'll always find ways to adapt and get around the system, they might as well just unblock everything. Heck, we can't even get to Google images (we just went to Google Taiwan and searched there for a while, but they caught on ), which is necessary a lot of times for projects. You can do your work, get good grades, and have fun at the same time, which is what I do. Some people (including some students) take school way too seriously, and spend every waking moment devoting their time to it or homework. I spend about 5 hours a day in school, about 2 of which I'm actually doing work, and I have good grades and GPA, and I enjoy school because I am not so uptight about it and can relax while still doing well. Schools purpose isn't (well, shouldn't be) just to "educate" people in what the government wants taught, it's to learn through experience, learn what you're interested in, and develop socially.


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Quote: " Schools purpose isn't (well, shouldn't be) just to "educate" people in what the government wants taught, it's to learn through experience, learn what you're interested in, and develop socially"


Hear hear!

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Thats why I like college so much more, we have every Friday off, maximum two classes a day and barely anything is blocked. However they use websense and all the teachers were really pissed because they blocked sites with the "game" in the title, seeing as we need game websites to do our work haha.

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Lol you should have seen the look on everyones face when they blocked WoW. Priceless.

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The filters where I am are server-based. They're blocked between the router and my workstation. You can get around the "RM Class Tutor 3; Your Attention Is Required" screens by Alt-Ctrl-Deling and clicking cancel. Yes, I, unlike some, know how to use Word. Let me get on with it.


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Tha_rami - that's absolute rubbish. Comically so.
Quote: "and as long as its in the law"
Erm... so breaking the AUP would be okay then as long as you think its for the good of progress? What about everyone elses views and the views of those who have to clean up after your mess? So it would be okay for you to break a computer that doesn't belong to you and prevent someone else using it because you consider your 'fun' above everyone elses work? How very respectful of you.

I am very pleased that your school appeared to have enough computers so they can provide one for each students own personal use. In every other school I know of, pupils have to give up their computer at the end of the lesson so another class can use them. If someone breaks several of them it affects many other students until they are fixed. Rather than spend so much money (time is money) in fixing the problems I am sure the schools would rather spend that money on improving facilities and the educational resources available to the students - for all of their benefits.


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Your analogies make no sense. This is not a place where we're forced to be by either law or parents. We're here out of free will. We keep to the rules as this is a service. School is a duty, in a way, and as Gil said:

Quote: "You can do your work, get good grades, and have fun at the same time, which is what I do. Some people (including some students) take school way too seriously, and spend every waking moment devoting their time to it or homework. I spend about 5 hours a day in school, about 2 of which I'm actually doing work, and I have good grades and GPA, and I enjoy school because I am not so uptight about it and can relax while still doing well. Schools purpose isn't (well, shouldn't be) just to "educate" people in what the government wants taught, it's to learn through experience, learn what you're interested in, and develop socially."


If someone needs more time at school, isn't it their responsibility to do that extra work? If someone is gaming and there's a lack of PC's for the seriously working ones, remove him/her from the PC. If everyone's gaming, why not? To develop a sense of anything, including your own responsibilities, you'll need to make mistakes. Not come to a screen saying: "This site is blocked by ReNet2.exe".

What, "improve"? Schools have what they need. All they should be improving on is the teachers - that's practically the only thing people are complaining about. Most teachers have half of a burn-out, no idea what they're talking about, and appear to have been hired only because the school board itself knows even less about the subject. That doesn't take money, it takes normal sense and good screening. There's enough people wanting to become a teacher for other goals than making money.

Let me ask you: Do I seem uneducated to you? I, like 90% of my class, spent most of our time at school playing Age of Empires, Call of Duty and Starcraft. Why is that unfair? We had an absurd amount of hours between classes, and had too many school hours. What are we supposed to do with all that time? Be good and I don't know, read Shakespeare? Heck, those games probably learned us more than most classes did. Guess what the only classes were where it felt useful to be in class? The ones in which the teachers said: "People, do what you want, but be quiet". We'd do our work, turn on a PC, and game away. We'd have our test and if we failed it badly, of course they'd be a little more strict. That's a case of bad responsibility. Not a case of limitations.

It's good that you can laugh about my comments, yours are bringing me to the verge of getting angry. A perfect little world in which everyone keeps to the rules, eh? Everyone just follow in the tracks of society and stuff, and everything will be okay? I'm glad you didn't live back in Galileo's times, or at similar crucial points of history. You'll make a terrible game developer, to make a just as senseless analogy as you just did.

Imposing senseless limitations and expect young people to keep to them, yeah, right. No way. Senseless limitations shouldn't even be there. They're the result of the short-sightedness of the 'mature' world.

Let me hope for myself and try my best to avoid getting that way. I'm past that stage for a year or two now, but for now, I'm not yet forgetting what or who I was when I was young. Hopefully that'll make me more understanding for the youth.

Those adults are the worst, the ones asking for respect. Did it ever occur to any of those people that respect is to be earned? Your age doesn't make you 'respectable' nor superior. Your behaviour is what does, and if you need to enforce respect, you're probably quite bad in communicating with my 'peers'. Another nice one: those haven't been my peers for a year or 2, now. Another example of how in the worst contenders of that generation 'war', you're either with us or against us.

Or did that just drop me into your box of "respectless, lawbreaking youth"?


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Posted: 3rd Mar 2008 14:23 Edited at: 3rd Mar 2008 14:40
Quote: "We're here out of free will. We keep to the rules as this is a service. School is a duty, in a way, and as Gil said:"


Rami. Those computers you like to goof around on all of the time at school? They're not required. It is not the duty of a school to have them. But rather, it is a service provided to you, with set rules attached to it, and like any other services, they can be taken away.

Look around, I'm sure there's a Student Handbook somewhere near you. Check it out. I'm sure it lists many rules on what you may or may not use the schools computers for.

Just like these forums you're willing to follow the rules on.

Quote: "It's good that you can laugh about my comments, yours are bringing me to the verge of getting angry. A perfect little world in which everyone keeps to the rules, eh? Everyone just follow in the tracks of society and stuff, and everything will be okay? I'm glad you didn't live back in Galileo's times, or at similar crucial points of history. You'll make a terrible game developer, to make a just as senseless analogy as you just did.
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Comments are bringing you to the verge of getting angry? Grow up, kid. This is an internet forum, and frankly he's giving you sound advice. Society has rules, society has laws. School is supposed to adjust you to this fact, because frankly most people who are caught at work, what school is there to prepare you for, are fired, because of such things as using the companies computers for such tasks as games and not what they are deemed for.

Quote: "Let me ask you: Do I seem uneducated to you? I, like 90% of my class, spent most of our time at school playing Age of Empires, Call of Duty and Starcraft. Why is that unfair? We had an absurd amount of hours between classes, and had too many school hours. What are we supposed to do with all that time?"


It's unfair simply because other students who might need to use the computer for what they are intended to be used for can't, because you're currently using them for games.

And other side work for in between classes? Search for scholarships, study, go to the school gym and exercise for a bit, etc. There is a lot more to the life of a school student than Age of Empires, Call of Duty, and Starcraft.

Quote: "Those adults are the worst, the ones asking for respect. Did it ever occur to any of those people that respect is to be earned? Your age doesn't make you 'respectable' nor superior."


Rami, I'm going to state this right here, right now: Adults know better than you. Not just because they are older, but because they went through your shoes too. They've experienced what you have, and then some. They've gone through their immature phases, and many of them can say they regret it. Do you want respect, Rami? Then earn it. And from your rantings, you're quickly losing respect from many of us.

Good luck getting an actual job in an actual workplace, with the idea that playing Starcraft on the side will be allowed at a workplace. I have personally witnessed people being fired for checking their e-mail at work. It's going to be one rough adjustment for you.



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Sorry Preston C, but i gonna have to side with tha_rami on this.
I want a good education and all but i like to muck about every now and then, i mean come. You got to have a fun side or there's just no point

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