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Sid Sinister
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Posted: 8th Jun 2008 07:25 Edited at: 8th Jun 2008 07:39
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Oh gawd, who clicked this thread honestly surprised?

All I wanted to do was back up my files. That's all I wanted. As you read this, bear that in mind. I connect by 160GB External Hard drive, copied some files over manually, then decide to do the important system files as well too, so I decide to try out Vistas Backup and Restore Center. The name sounded sophisticated so I rolled with it. But as usual, Microsoft's sugar coated names for it's crappy programs turns out to be yet another retarded, time wasting job for the consumer. If they would just get this sh!t right for a change... honestly.

Unaware of the problems that lay ahead, I go through the procedure and then it tells me I can't back anything up because I have a error on the disk and to run Chkdsk. Great... Okay...

So I run Chkdsk, chkdsk doesn't run. It says it needs to be in safe mode and asks me if I want to schedule a chkdsk run for the next time Vista boots up. Yes! Absolutely! Do it! Oh baby! YESSSS!

No. Epic Fail. For some reason, nothing sticks when it comes to scheduling a task and it doesn't even do the check disk. It just does a normal, uneventful, boring boot. So I hit the might interwebs and look for an answer. They tell me Vista is just bad like that and that I need run SFC /scanall to repair some files so it can boot in safe mode like a normal OS.

Fine. So I have to repair some files. Nothing traumatic YET. I run SFC /scanall and it stops at 17% saying that it can't go any further because the system resources are protected... *blink* so I run it again in administrator mode. Same results. *twitch*

Back to the mighty interwebs, and this time I shake my fists demanding an explanation as to why my Vista Ultimate Edition fails at getting into safe mode the easy way. After 15 minutes of research, I found out I had to go into msconfig and check the boot in safe mode box (which you have to uncheck before you want to NOT boot in safe mode anymore as I found out). Apparently, safe mode is no longer as easy as pressing F8 or scheduling a task. You have to talk dirty to your computer in order for it to get there. Just how microsoft likes it. Bastards.

So, now I'm in safemode. SFC not running correctly worries me, and I want all the errors corrected and my OS running correctly, as it should for the price of Vista Ultimate. I decided to troubleshoot this first and work on chkdsk later. I try running SFC in safemode and yet again, it craps out at 17%. Growing even more worried, I hit the mighty interwebs yet again. Woot.

Now they start getting into the oh... we don't really know... and so yeah... GLHF (good luck have fun). So I'm thinking to myself yes! I am truly f!cked now! Perfect! The only solution to this is going to be to reinstall everything. That's the only way to get rid of a bug. Thats the MS way!

I go to microsofts site looking for answers... and then... I found the glorious, all knowing statement of:

Quote: "When you try to use Windows Vista, Windows Vista may not behave as expected. For example, some Windows Vista functions may not work, or Windows Vista may stop responding."


I had to Lol. I mean who can't at this point? *facepalm*

Anyway.

So where am I at now? Not able to run SFC /scanall, unable to run Chkdsk and unable to backup my damn files. Also, I hear I can't even get SP1 with this issue either. Someone do a little jig!

Google isn't really working anymore, so have you guys ever encountered something like this? If so, can you point me in the right direction?

If I decide to call MS Tech support within the next day or two, I'll try and record it and play the audio here. It's going to be some indian guy who's first question is "did you restart your computer." It should be funny, because I'm not in the mood for MS's horse crap. Give me a working OS damn it, or step down as leader as the technological world.

I'm so sick of this OS crap. I was starting to like Vista, but when it comes down to it, it's a bandaid. That's all it is. It's the same problem, only the problem has new features and is more expensive.

//End rant/venting

If you guys actually understand my problem, and know how to fix it. Do tell. If not, post your own horror stories with Vista here. Should be a good venting and even a good counseling session for some of us here lol.

EDIT: And oh yeah. Can someone explain to me why SP1 wasn't automatically downloaded for me? I didn't even get a fricking notice when it was out saying "Hey, listen, I know our OS sucks, but here's a bandaid!" Did auto updates just take a crap with Vista? It's all set to auto, so what the heck happened?

Another EDIT: And why isn't Vista smart enough to utilize two cores consistently? Why would my startup only run on one core if I have two? Why do I have to wait for fricking firefox to load for 7 seconds, if my CPU utilization is only at 3% and on single core? Step it up!

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Um, I'm a happy Vista user. So, go to Windows Update and check to see if there are any updates to be downloaded. Maybe SP1 is there.

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right on brotha!

man that sounds terrible I was against switching to vista from the beginning, and then, the dx10 and other people who had good experience with vista (god bless thy homies) made me actually want to try out vista.




your tale destroyed all good faith i had in vista.

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Well the only thing I can say at this point is, reinstall, then use Syncback for your backup needs, it's been bulletproof for me for years now (even on Vista).

I'm actually to the point now where I like Vista more than XP. But yeah, even now sometimes Vista rolls over and dies on a simple file copy, for whatever reason.

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Quote: "No. Epic Fail. For some reason, nothing sticks when it comes to scheduling a task and it doesn't even do the check disk."


I had the same problem - I had my SVN repo. set to be auto-backed up (via scheduled tasks) in Vista SP1. I explicitly set it to run at a specific time every Friday.

It ran intermittently, and sometimes tried to run on Tuesday. As such, I no longer run Vista.


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Posted: 8th Jun 2008 14:33 Edited at: 8th Jun 2008 14:35
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I it my seem obvious now:

When moving to Vista, don't rely on its own utilities - luckily tha_rami's free stuff pack in his free stuff thread has some tools (including a back up one) that might useful in the future.


Of course seeing this heeds as warning to me when I get my new computer, and I can see your frustration mate, I used to get like that with XP before I knew how to work it properly and when SP2 fixed enough bugs.

As for 'MS should release a working OS for the Price of Vista Ultimate', definitely, you're paying good money for that software, if it don't work properly then it's not worth the money - and of course you have the right to complain and get them to fix the problems or help you solve it with little stress. (At least that would happen if companies weren't cheap-skates who direct you to an off-short call centre, which I think when you're paying a lot of money for a product, then your service should be more premium, especially with an OS that isn't as polished as it should be)

But also, I've heard Vista users say "Buy a computer with Vista already on it as you won't experience some of the problems", so you never know it could be a compatibility problem with your computer. (If you comp isn't Vista native) and I've heard techies say "No, Vista not good, needs bug fixing, use XP until MS fix their problems"

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My PC's OEM, which means my PC's built from the ground up. I've experienced problems with Vista when it's still x64. I pulled it back to x86 and everything went so well. SP1 solved most of file handling processes, and with XP, I'm experiencing this infamous "Generic Host Error" which reverts my theme back to the classic one, and fails to detect any portable file storage.

BTW, Expect Windows 7 by 2010.


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I bought this laptop with vista already installed, so theoretically there shouldn't be any hardware issues.

I'm flaming pissed again today about this, as nothing I'm doing today is working either.

And since when does MS Tech support cost money? Is this true? Am I in the wrong spot or something? Because you have to bloody joking me if it's going to cost me $59 to clean up Microsoft's mess. I don't think so. I'll call them up and tell them to shove it if they ask me for my credit card number.

I'm now seriously thinking about going back to XP. This is so rediculous it isn't remotely funny anymore. I can't backup my computer because some small program doesn't think my hard drive is right? BS. If my computer is stable, and running fine, I find it hard to believe it can't find enough files to make it do so again if I ever have to use recovery. It doesn't make sense.

For now, I'm going out to lunch. I'll keep you guys updated on any encounters I have with MS. Sounds like a disease... MS... lol.

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Quote: "Sounds like a disease... MS..."

That would be multiple sclerosis

My brother uses Vista on his laptop and he seems to get on fine with it. I'm using OS X and there is an xp box that the whole family uses. Seeing as I'm the most tech savvy of the family (which ain't saying much ) it would be up to me to install Vista on there. I have no plans to do so because I have no need. When my brother was getting his laptop I pointed out a lot of people were down-grading to XP but he's managed fine. I'd say if you don't need Vista then stick with what works. Honestly I've not had that much experience with Vista but I think it's improved a lot since it was first released. If I bought a new machine now I doubt I'd bother down-grading. There is no perfect OS after all.

Hope your problem gets sorted soon.

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Oh my, my story is the worst ever! Vista installed mighty quick, and ran like a charm. And then, oh noes! I had problem with activation code, but got it all sorted out, and then I ran vista and my video card had buggy drivers (And that just WASN'T expected what with it being a new OS, and me tweaking with D3D a bit more than I should've). And then, wait, this is where it gets even worse, I got a new video card for only $30 that worked with Direct3D 10 and ran even faster than my old card, and Vista was running great! Oh no! And all my HDs and all my USBs and all my DVDs were working just as they were before, perfectly! Can someone please tell me how to use a computer so that everything doesn't work???? I got Vista and a PC and everything, and it's all working perfectly, the horror!

Vista works great. I don't have SP1 either.


Not quite sure about why you couldn't get into safe mode by pressing F8 when starting your computer up, should have booted into safe mode fine. I've never had a problem booting into safe mode, though I've rarely ever needed to.


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Haha, come to think of it, I've used vista a couple months after it first came out and don't recall having to go into safemode at all on it

At the same token, I haven't had to do that on ubuntu either (well, command line), except when I got a new monitor.


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here is my terror story: i installed vista without any problems, and then! omg since since i had a 7 year old mouse, there were no good drivers to support the side buttons and then i bought a new mouse.


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Posted: 9th Jun 2008 01:34 Edited at: 9th Jun 2008 01:36
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Vista horror story:
My friend has Vista on his HP laptop, and went out and bought a HP mouse with Vista stickers plastered all over it. He put his Vista certified HP mouse into his Vista certified HP laptop and guess what? Nada. In fact, it doesn't work on any Vista system despite being "Vista Certified". It'll work on any XP box (such as the one I'm typing on now, with the same mouse) but Microsoft somehow crippled a driverless mouse. Goodness knows how.

Now whilst a £10 mouse might not be much to most people, it is to someone on £3 an hour. It constitutes three hours of shelve stacking, and the store won't take his opened mouse back because "he broke it". So another great peripheral bricked!

By the way, enjoy your "HD" content that is scaled down to standard definition and then back up to "HD", Vista users.


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Quote: "By the way, enjoy your "HD" content that is scaled down to standard definition and then back up to "HD", Vista users."


Eh? That's only in the case of users using HD content, like off blu-ray and stuff, AND using uncertified hardware. (Which I've yet to really come across).

I'd like to see you watch blu-ray on linux at all Afaik, there's no driver, but perhaps there is, I don't have blu-ray, haven't looked around. You'd have to rip the whole 50gigs to your hard drive to watch. (which, as a matter of fact, you could do in windows if you so need).

That said, there's no excuse for having that type of protection on movies you purchased. But that's a different debate altogether. A debate about hollywood and their fear of piratez.


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i'm just annoyed with the lack of customisability. I got 64-bit which means theres 2 program folders, 1 for 32bit apps and 1 for 64bit apps. It sorta makes sense, but what doesnt make sense is you can change the system path of the 64bit programs folder, but not the 32bit. this sucks because i like to have ALL my prgrams and games on a separate partition to windows.

if it wasnt for dependance on DX i would have become a linux fanboy long ago.

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If I wasn't so lazy, I'd switch to linux. XP has served me well, Vista on my laptop was a major mistake.
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The answer is quite simple, Don't buy laptops from inferior brands. If your laptop had that many problems send it back to the shop and get a refund or get them to fix it for free, there is no point in going to MS about it since they will just blame the hardware. You could buy XP and install it, but I find installing an OS on a laptop from scratch is a terrible idea and can cause so many problems it is unbelievable. Laptop installed OS's are usually perfect.

I got a sony viao with vista installed and it works beautifully. No errors, no slow downs, no problems, nothing. Works perfectly and plays games perfectly too. Still don't understand how so many people have so many problems.

I have a desktop with vista installed with no problems either, its custom built... Im not having any of that dell or hp rubbish
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Quote: "I have a desktop with vista installed with no problems either, its custom built... Im not having any of that dell or hp rubbish"


Cheers for the system builders!


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No more nightmares, please. I am having one with XP. It freezes when I plug the internet cable. If I boot with the cable plugged, XP gives me a blue screen full of precise hexadecimal codes to help me on solving my problem. Luckily, I use XP only for tests and to use few prgrams. I do not need internet on it.. but.. well.. It was working until two days ago..

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It probably happened because you relied on online n00bs and installed virus programs! Vista is a wonderful OS and I love it! Works great.

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Quote: "I got a sony viao with vista installed and it works beautifully. "

Well, where I work, Sony is considered an inferior brand. Not only do those laptops return quite often, the helpdesk stinks horribly and most of the problems are hardware-related production errors. That's unforgivable for such an overpriced brand. I'm boycotting the life out of Sony (and Creative) for such things. If I'd recommend any brand, it'd be Toshiba, followed by Asus, then by HP/Compaq, Acer and Fujitsu Siemens on a shared 3rd place.

BTW. On Vista, booting in Safe Mode is still pressing F8 at boot for me. And for all the other laptops at work. And for all desktops.


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Toshiba are good, even if I keep calling mine crap, but that's only because it's to underspec to run XP - of course then that shows it's managed to last a long time and successfully. The hardware has no problems, except the DVD Drive no long runs CDRs.

My Packard Bell (desktop) has lasted me 6 years, the only problems I've had are XP (which is no long a problem due to updates), viruses (which are no longer a problem because I learned Norton is useless the hard way) though my sound card did lose a channel 2 years ago, but for some reason it barely effects anything - they tend to be sound effects on games like Hitman, Final Fantasy VIII and the vioces on Oblivion. And my other problem has only happened recently and that's plug and play and sometimes how one of my USB ports doesn't respond all the time.

Which is a point, will Vista be compatible with Final Fantasy VIII? (And Final Fantasy VII)

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Funny, we get no complaints about sony laptops here, we mostly get dells and hp laptops in as well as other weird brands. I guess it depends where you buy them. ALL helpdesks nowadays suck They really need to make it against the law to have rubbish customer service lol

Most of the people I know have had vaios for years with no issues. They are not that expensive either... My vista laptop is a core duo with 2gb ram and a 8600 gfx card with blue ray, only cost £700 from the sony shop. My other one is a slightly older version with a 7600 and it runs really nicely, no problems at all for 2 years now.
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My 25mHz Toshiba Trigem still boots and runs perfectly, except its Western Digital drive is a bit twitchy, but hey, find me one that isn't.


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Well, it's still not looking good. I've started a thread on the vistax64 forums and the only useful response I've gotten back so far is to reformat. I think it's BS that I'll have to nuke my harddrive in order to fix this, but when I think about it, it seems like something MS would have me do. That's how it's always been with them. "Oh, your bookmarks got deleted somehow? Reformat, that should prevent it from happening again."

You guys can follow the thread at: http://www.vistax64.com/showthread.php?p=741431#post741431

I'm Stradigos.

If I do have to reformat, I'm going back to XP. Couple of questions first... XP can run a Core 2 Duo efficiently/effectively right? My 8600M GT gfx card should work right? I know DX10 will be bye bye, and so will the handwriting recognition, but what else? Anything I need to be aware of?

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Seriously can't you take it back to the guys you bought it off?? It would save you a lot of trouble and money. If it didn't work out of the box then it is their responsibility to give you a replacement or fix it for free, then you can tell them to install xp instead.

XP can run core 2 duo efficiently but I still advise you don't reformat the laptop yourself as it can and probably will give you more errors and troubles than you can imagine.
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Not really, seeing as I bought this laptop online from dell. I could call up their tech support, but I know I would get the same answer I get from the guys at the vistax64 forums. Plus I don't want to deal with foreign people asking me if I restarted my computer.

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I have random BSODs sometimes more often than others.


oh... and occaisonally my internet stops working... even though everybody else's in the house continues to work... (they're using XP... go figure).

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Quote: "I have random BSODs sometimes more often than others."

I get some random bsods. but with xp, but it looks diffrent from the original bsod I've seen, it doesnt have text in the middle, just text at the side.
odd? I need sp3 maybe.


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My problem is starting to look a little more grim. It might be a hardware issue as well as a software issue now. I just opened up the Event Log and there is over 70,000 log entries saying that my drive is corrupt and unusable... great~ . I wonder if I should be looking into getting a new hard drive for my laptop then? It should still be under warranty. If it is, should I not reformat then? Would that cover up the errors? I'm just worried that I'm going to go use my warranty and they are not going to see anything wrong with it.

Also, I've just been told to not use registry cleaners on vista. Something about needing to turn of the UAC because of security issues during registry cleaning. Have you guys heard of that before? Is that true? I guess it could cause problems, I mean it's recommended you back up your computer an all before using one but still... I use them to get the old program residue off once in a while.

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Dell, theres your problem then! I'm afraid it has little to do with vista (or xp)

If its from dell defininatly do NOT reformat it. Dell are terrible for locking everything down on their machines meaning sometimes you can ONLY use dell products with a dell machine. This means you have to buy a special copy of windows xp from dell (with a marked up price of course). Send it back to them and get a refund, its not worth getting it repaired.

If you buy a new hard drive I think it has to be from dell too otherwise the thing wont read the hard drive. We've tried getting around this crappy protection but we haven't found a way... yet.
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I don't use registry cleaners at all, seriously, why are people so anal about their registries >.<

Anyways, yes, you need to return it. Don't hesitate that they won't believe you, if they don't, just show them the logs. Then again, this is dell....

Try and get a refund, and buy something nicer over at newegg.com

No use in reformatting if your drive is bad, you're just prolonging your pain


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Quote: "Not really, seeing as I bought this laptop online from dell."


Surely, Dell of all companies should have a 12 month warantee as standard? I mean I've heard plenty of people have problems with Dell and that might be your problem. I know a few techies that have told me to keep away from Dell machines, especially the cheaper ones - not that they're bad machines, but they can be poorly made and thus have problems.

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This laptop was $1900 at the end of all the upgrades. I even bought the three year extended warranty on it too. Although... I can't remember, but that might be the accidentally warranty only. Hmmm...

At any rate, it looks like my problem has been fixed. I put in the Vista DVD, rebooted, went to the command prompt on the DVD, ran chkdsk (which didn't work before! I swear!) and it corrected a bunch of errors. I also had it check for bad sectors. It stopped checking at 34%... so I'm not sure if it found any or not, but I don't think I have any. I'll run the check again over night just for peace of mine.

I then ran SFC /scanall, it found errors but couldn't correct them. I had to go in and manually download and correct the right files for it to work again. One of the files was autochk.exe, which is the file that allows chkdsk to work at reboot. If that's corrupt, it won't work. So if any of you are having the same problem, let me know, I'll help you fix it.

Right now, I'm backing up my computer. Finally!

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Right, so, why was it corrupted in the first place? I wouldn't trust that drive


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Don't be so quick to blame vista for your computer troubles.

It seems most people either have good success stories or really bad horror stories.
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Quote: "Right, so, why was it corrupted in the first place? I wouldn't trust that drive"


I think it had to do with the registry cleaner. I was told to not use a registry cleaner with Vista. I don't know if that's true or not, but I guess it makes sense. I think if it was the hard drive, I would have bad sectors. In this case, I don't, so that leads me to believe it's either vista's fault or my cleaning of the registry.

Quote: "Don't be so quick to blame vista for your computer troubles.

It seems most people either have good success stories or really bad horror stories."


I wasn't. In fact, if you look at the thread seppuku arts made about Vista, I was praising it there, urging him to get it. But, my perspective has changed, and not just mine, but many MANY peoples. Vista doesn't meet expectations with most of it's consumer base. The part that isn't covered by 'most' are just the users who use it twice a day to check their email. When you get down into the nitty grity stuff though, it starts to become shaky.

To be honest, fixing this Vista bug was harder than any Trojan removal, registry tangle, boot sector crash, that I've ever dealt with. And why? I'm not quite sure specifically, but the way Vista was designed was like Microsoft didn't take into account that their operating system would be flawed. It doesn't help the user fix itself very much.

One thing I CAN praise Vista for was the Event Viewer, which has been overhauled this time around. It's very useful and has a very nice interface now. I'm going to use this to scope out potential bugs early so that they don't get out of hand later on.

Fixing XP was easier and more documented. Fixing Vista is like making sure the Apollo 13 astronauts got home okay.

I heard that Vista was already being developed before XP was even launched. Maybe that explains why some of the fundamental, same old frustrations weren't fixed this time around? Who knows. I'm looking forward to Windows 7 though. It's a lucky number, so hopefully it's better.

I understand if some of you disagree with my take on Vista. It's purely opinion.

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Biggest nightmare I had with Vista was my microphone not working, so I guess I was lucky (switched back to XP due to my games not working).

Going to get a new computer with Vista Basic installed. Then I will dual boot with Ubuntu 8.04, so I can play games and work. Looking forward for it (the computer can handle Crysis ).

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well, i went to every extent to get rmxp on vista i tried loading up xp. and i tried changing the properties and now my pc is screwed, for some reason my video card screwed up so now im using a pc i bought for $90 and it works great

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Anyone ever notice how Windows behaves a little better when you have the Task Manager up? Things work a little faster it seems, and programs don't freeze as often.

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I've noticed I'm running 79 processes, dude I'm sure most of them aren't needed - on XP I really only needed 18 running, no wonder a lot of resources are being used, though I think somebody told me that Vista will use as many of the resources availible to give the best performance.

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It's a conspiracy!


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Quote: "I've noticed I'm running 79 processes, dude I'm sure most of them aren't needed - on XP I really only needed 18 running, no wonder a lot of resources are being used, though I think somebody told me that Vista will use as many of the resources availible to give the best performance."


You can't really base it on count. Since vista's a reworking, a lot of the services may be been split out, or perhaps xp just didn't show them

Of course, many of them are probably new, and can be safely shut off. Check out black viper's website about the vista services.


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Okay will do, I'm sure if I wan't to see what Crysis is like and what the fuss is about I'll have to turn some of those off.

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Like when cops show up at a party?


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OMG! That was HILARIOUS Yes! Exactly like that. LOL, that was honestly the best thing anyone could have said right there. Good one

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Quote: "Like when cops show up at a party?"


In the developers room:

"We do not want the user to suspect anything, so lets make our apps be nice when the task manager is on, so it wont discover by accident what iTunes really does..."

Conspiracy!!!

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Vista bug? I thought it was your hard drive.
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A friend of mine made the mistake of running registry mechanic on his copy of vista, which resulted in a format. I imagine it wasnt that bad for him (since he isn't a coder, and didn't have countless hours of work at risk).

I know the situation isn't funny in the least, but I laughed for ~twenty minutes when I read
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79 process? Vista's only running 10 minimum over here, and about 16 for when I'm doin' my multitasking. 20 at most.

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